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Diab current weap balance (11 comments)
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Posted by Heartlesss @ 07:11 CDT, 16 March 2020 - iMsg
  • To Raven
12:46] heartlesss: @Raven first of all, gotta say, diabotical is very very good, on many aspects, won't list them cuz too much and too lazy :D. Arena 1v1 is also very enjoyable and feels kind of fresh compared to thunderstruck you know :D, and ofc more "balanced", like less +b or hide etc. Now i have one little complain tho, it's about the current weap balance. The rail is fine, i love the 60/70/80, good concept. The rl is fine too, it feels strong and you can make plenty of agressive moves with it. The plasma has been nerfed and is now perfectly balanced. The gl feels nice, the machinegun feels strong enough (perhaps a little too strong tho). My biggest issue right now is the lg, what i'm about to say isn't because lg has always been my fav weap and i'm a shaft whore, oka ? What am about to say is ONLY in order to make the weap balance perfectly balanced and rewarding any kind of playstyles (rl-heavy, rail-heavy, lg-heavy etc), because currently i'd say the game slightly favors rl-heavy players, for instance, if you put the best rl player ever against the best lg player ever (not me btw ;D), the rl dude will win, not by much, but still, i'd say 60% win for the rl dude and 40% for the lg dude (or to be less extreme 55% vs 45%). The reasons why the rl will almost always be the most viable weap are : dash + a bit faster movements with less "floaty" feelings and more to the ground strafe-jumping (compared to ql) + less rl bounces + how the maps are designed (usually not very open, i'm talking about arena and duel, not wipeout) AND, finally, the lg. What's wrong with current lg ? not the no knockback on ground, which is actually a very good idea, the real issue is that there's hardly any ways to counter a beast with rl that usually play agressive, because if he goes +f and never jumps while using rl, considering the overall size of most arena maps, and since the lg is basically nerfed since QL (but not the rl (afaik)), it's almost impossible to get a kill even if 50% acc lg
[12:47] heartlesss: again, i'm not saying "pls make your game lg-only OR make your game favors lg heavy players, nop, i'm saying all of that just to perfect the weaps balance and the effectiveness of each diff playstyles
[12:49] heartlesss: after saying all of that, i'm not sure how you could "buff" the lg, there are actually plenty of diff ways to do it, but imho, the lg is currently slightly too weak in most situations (except wipeout because the maps are usually big and open)
[12:51] heartlesss: like i said, don't nerf the rl, it's fine, but the lg still needs some work in order to be a viable weap for an lg-heavy player. All styles should be rewarded equally, not only rl aggro :wink:

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Edited by Heartlesss at 07:14 CDT, 16 March 2020 - 6879 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 08:35 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By LOLBARN xero- 
This post gave me corona.
4%
<< Comment #2 @ 08:59 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By Earth Heartlesss  - Reply to #1
Still 95% in favor of what i've said tho :>

and

  • response from Raven
[13:48] Raven: I think James agrees with that description of rocket vs lg at the moment, and he does want rocket to be stronger and +w to be incentivized but he thinks it's too much in favor of rocket right now, he wants to make some slight changes to the movement
<< Comment #3 @ 10:03 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By LOLBARN xero-  - Reply to #2
Just format it properly instead of alphabet soup.
<< Comment #4 @ 11:01 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By Germany mattered_ 
You have the writing style of a 16yo teen girl from the 00's.
<< Comment #10 @ 14:35 CDT, 17 March 2020 >>
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By United States of America T1E  - Reply to #4
Hmmm... this post sounds familiar
<< Comment #5 @ 12:15 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou 
LG is a bit weak at the moment, I agree. But let's be careful not to make it all LG all the time either.
<< Comment #6 @ 13:45 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By QuakeLive SaturdayEveningPost 
I love where lg is at at the moment!

1. it has air knockback so you can stop anyone rushing you mindlessly.
WHILE

2. the less ground knockkback is great because it makes more for aim battle instead of movement controlled assisted aim gun.,
<< Comment #7 @ 13:57 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By United States of America wwwAnyBoy 
just look at it

topics about game modes are ignored

but when it comes to the balance of weapons, they are ready to write comments under the thread.

all this has already been discussed by you 10 years ago and earlier.

you are idiots.
<< Comment #8 @ 14:50 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By Australia CaptainTaichou  - Reply to #7
I considered posting in your threads, but I knew you were likely just to insult me, maybe accuse me of being a Bethesda "SMM", and repost your irrefutable evidence of "why BRAWL is a piece of shit". :D
<< Comment #9 @ 15:34 CDT, 16 March 2020 >>
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By United States of America wwwAnyBoy  - Reply to #8
They not posting im my thread not because of i'm insulting ppl. This is coz of they know this phraze "weapon balance" and don't know which gamemode good and which is bad. And they prefer to chatting about weapons, coz of this is more simple for their brains.

You not proved that you not Bethesda SMM
<< Comment #11 @ 02:40 CDT, 20 March 2020 >>
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By United States of America erok 
While I agree, I'm not quite sure how to fix it...I'll leave this in the hands of the development team. Any kind of boost to lg would imo make it way overpowered...its only very slightly underpowered to me

edit: I also will RL whore all day so this balance is no problem for me, though my lg has always been able to hang.
Edited by erok at 02:42 CDT, 20 March 2020

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