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Diabotical Update - 10/14/2018 (49 comments)
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Posted by Warden @ 16:35 CDT, 15 October 2018 - iMsg
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/322563851?t=06m56s
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<< Comment #1 @ 18:55 CDT, 15 October 2018 >>
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By QuakeLive SaturdayEveningPost 
fucks yeah
<< Comment #2 @ 19:06 CDT, 15 October 2018 >>
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By :-]] alb 
Can't wait to get Jamerio's christmas edition 'Russian Downfall' RL skin.
<< Comment #8 @ 14:43 CDT, 16 October 2018 >>
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By USA_UK Jamerio  - Reply to #2
If it has FFA, you know what's coming :)


nobodies safe, cept that Bus guy & hell.
Edited by Jamerio at 14:47 CDT, 16 October 2018
<< Comment #25 @ 01:46 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By Australia evil_ash  - Reply to #8
jamerio -Win/Loss Ratio 0.801 - Main Scalebearer

evilash - Win/Loss Ratio 0.973 - Main Slash

I win.
<< Comment #27 @ 05:13 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By USA_UK Jamerio  - Reply to #25
In Europe I have access to a potential talent pool of 741+ million.
In Australia, you have access to a potential talent pool of 24 million.

This is further highlighted by the global quake champ earnings.
https://www.plusforward.net/quake/rankings/20...s/71/Duel/

Out of the top 40 earnings, not a single one is Australian.
In fact, I don't even think an ozzie made it into the top 100!

At least half of them are from Europe (from the top 40), the top earner is Rapha and he got got..

The servers I play on, much harder to win.
Edited by Jamerio at 05:25 CDT, 19 October 2018
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<< Comment #28 @ 08:20 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By Sloth pacmanpl  - Reply to #27
ouch
<< Comment #29 @ 10:00 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By Hungary Lacceh  - Reply to #28
gg
<< Comment #31 @ 06:34 CDT, 20 October 2018 >>
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By Australia evil_ash  - Reply to #27
Main Scalebearer
<< Comment #32 @ 06:36 CDT, 20 October 2018 >>
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By Australia evil_ash  - Reply to #27
"In Australia, you have access to a potential talent pool of 24 million."

This also explains why I cant que a duel.
<< Comment #40 @ 06:03 CDT, 23 October 2018 >>
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By Quake 3 InDepther  - Reply to #32
true, unfortunately
<< Comment #3 @ 06:31 CDT, 16 October 2018 >>
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By Q3 harosh 
http://www.esreality.com/post/2926584/2gd-did-another-update/

oh and.... thanks.
<< Comment #4 @ 06:33 CDT, 16 October 2018 >>
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By Serbia bogOtac 
you stole those 5% from harosh bro, not cool
real thread here:
http://www.esreality.com/post/2926584/2gd-did-another-update/
<< Comment #7 @ 11:25 CDT, 16 October 2018 >>
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By Q3 harosh  - Reply to #4
may the eggs roam free

may they breed new eggs

may new eggs be reborn with <add meme here>
<< Comment #24 @ 01:33 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By shaftwhores only by [EXE]dann supremee  - Reply to #7
:SoonerLater:
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<< Comment #5 @ 08:05 CDT, 16 October 2018 >>
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By boatclub palatka 
its impossible gaben stops a steam release because 2gds an ass right???
<< Comment #6 @ 08:29 CDT, 16 October 2018 >>
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By Serbia bogOtac  - Reply to #5
Edited by bogOtac at 08:29 CDT, 16 October 2018
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<< Comment #9 @ 15:01 CDT, 16 October 2018 >>
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By Smiley melachi qub1t 
dno why everybody is so hyped about this.

it looks like OW and plays like warsow/reflex.
we had this already several times.

incoming dead game.

gg.


egg bots are ugly, i dont need huge hitboxes like that. :)
Edited by qub1t at 15:02 CDT, 16 October 2018
<< Comment #10 @ 07:49 CDT, 17 October 2018 >>
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By creep trademark *creep  - Reply to #9
Still already 10x better than QC, but that isn't really an achievement. For the moment this is my last hope for a sustainable AFPS, and hopefully coke and donuts will not ruin it this time.
<< Comment #12 @ 12:58 CDT, 17 October 2018 >>
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By Smiley melachi qub1t  - Reply to #10
it's bad how bethesda/saber is handling QC.
but the gameplay mechanics are quite fun (the game is missing a decent objective based gamemode also)
<< Comment #11 @ 09:40 CDT, 17 October 2018 >>
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By Sloth pacmanpl  - Reply to #9
People are hyped (not as much as for new SOULCALIBUR) because it comes from 2GD.
A guy who actually knows what makes a good game.
It will have shitload of QOL features that should be mandatory in any shooter made in current_year.

Great optimisation, great customisation, great socialisation.
And it will have MUCH better start than any Reflex/Warsow/Xonotic just because people know 2GD.

If this shit won't stick, nothing will.
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<< Comment #21 @ 16:37 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By zerg esdf  - Reply to #11
there's actually 0 proof that 2gd can make a good game. people are just willing to give him benefit of the doubt cause he's 2gd.
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<< Comment #23 @ 00:57 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By Sloth pacmanpl  - Reply to #21
Gameplay wise maybe.
Feature wise we guchi.
<< Comment #33 @ 09:28 CDT, 21 October 2018 >>
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By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR  - Reply to #21
Guy is really smart, popular and pro player. All good qualities for this task.
<< Comment #34 @ 00:22 CDT, 22 October 2018 >>
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By Germany garz  - Reply to #33
one part of a game is gameplay and being a pro player for sure helps with creating a nice gameplay. we can see with qc what happens if you are not a pro player.

the gameplay part for afps for sure was already done in perfection in q3. the game where 2gd is a pro player in. where he has his knowledge about afps from. but what will he come up with other than a q3 gameplay? we already have q3 and we already had countless q3 clones which where not far away from q3 gameplay and which all failed.

what does the pro player can come up with apart from gameplay? what does popularity do help with game design? i am sure tim was also popular at id which is why he was allowed to do qc. now look at qc. 2gd is smart yes, but in which regards he is? is it necessarily game design?

and what is with the theory with people nowdays not want to play afps anymore? is 2gd popular enough to solve this riddle? when i look at twitch he has 27 videos there with a felt 200 views in average. is that enough to promote an unpopular type of gameplay?

so esdf for sure has a point here.
<< Comment #37 @ 05:18 CDT, 22 October 2018 >>
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By Sweden BaMoFu  - Reply to #34
He has connections within different fields of the industri, that will most likely be to his advantage, lots of ppl owing him favours, lots of ppl who will help spread the word. Exposure is key, QC mainly got exposure via media, hopefully Diabotical can get exposure on both levels, grassroot level from famous streamers/players as well as media coverage. If Diabotical have built in community features which seem meaningful to beginners AND seasoned players it could actually work. Moddability is also a key point, it makes sure for a constant flow of new content (maps). I think he's currently working harder on the promotional side of the game than on the game itself. We will see :) I hope it will turn out good. Atleast I think it have a chance at being more than QC, both from a gameplay point of view and from a community pov.
<< Comment #19 @ 12:37 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By sad YouTroll 
Diabolical > lolqc
<< Comment #13 @ 17:11 CDT, 17 October 2018 >>
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By US-Kentucky ggnore 
Not to rain on the parade but what is going to seperate this game from every other arena fps clone like reflex, warsow etc?

Even with all the matchmaking, good latency servers, leaderboards, lootbox cosmetic stuff for the masses will people actually play it?

How can u possibly compete with OW
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<< Comment #15 @ 08:22 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By Sloth pacmanpl  - Reply to #13
I don't think anyone thinks it will gather "masses".

Just gibe few FFA servers after work... :pray:
<< Comment #22 @ 17:17 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By US-Kentucky ggnore  - Reply to #15
Then there ain't much point of 2GD and co putting so much effort into a product that ain't gonna sell very well.

Hope it does because it looks a hell of a lot better than I thought it would be
<< Comment #30 @ 14:30 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By Exelent nex1  - Reply to #13
It doesn't need to beat mainstream games. It just needs to be a decent arena fps that arena fps lovers and nostalgics can play comfortably and hang around.
<< Comment #14 @ 22:34 CDT, 17 October 2018 >>
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By Denmark McFly 
I really want this game to be bigger than Fortnite when it comes out...

But that said, someone give me one, good reason why this game will have a larger player base than, say, Reflex.

Look at QC, it has a giant like Bethesda behind it, yet still only peaks @ 3k players daily.

(yes, yes, we all know "QC sux", but kids today don't think QC sucks because of the champ abilities. They will think Diabotical sucks just as much, if not more, for reasons nothing to do with champ abilities.)

Meanwhile, I'll give you the top 3 reasons why this game will bomb:

#1 Its not Battle Royale
#2 It has Strafe Jumping
#3 It does not have a large company behind it to do promotion
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<< Comment #16 @ 08:24 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By Sloth pacmanpl  - Reply to #14
2GD, me, you - already more than Reflex player base <3
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<< Comment #18 @ 09:39 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By Malaysia lolograde  - Reply to #16
:,(
<< Comment #17 @ 09:00 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By Quake 3 InDepther 
I will certainly play Diabotical, but QC still has a better chance to be a semi-popular fps game

QC has improved a lot and if they fix the performance and netcode issues, release ctf and promote it again on release, it could certainly succeed imo.

btw rapha vs cooller final can only mean that the latest patch required slightly more brain than the previous ones. Even that is an improvement.

hate it to say it here, going against the vibe of my favourite site, but QC is fun, maybe annoying fun, but we still enjoy playing it, while cursing at the same time. If they fix performance, reduce the queue times and release ctf, it will be good to go.

the devs did huge mistakes and they were slow as snails, but they got few things right, some from the beginning (the maps) and some after almost 2 years (like the balance of the champs and the weapons).
<< Comment #35 @ 00:25 CDT, 22 October 2018 >>
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By Australia evil_ash  - Reply to #17
"QC has improved a lot and if they fix the performance and netcode issues, release ctf and promote it again on release, it could certainly succeed imo."

You heavily gloss over what is wrong in QC and its much more problems than that.

-The engine is buggy and crusty and no ammount of polish will change it
-Its questionable if netcode can be fixed
-Limited to the maps they make which are all small and bad
-nobody outside of EA or USA can que duels quickly even in peak hour meaning the game will never achieve world wide popularity.
-Load into server, kick out of server, repeat. Nobody puts up with this long before just playing something else.
-CTF is just another mode that in concept sounds good, but when we see it actually applied to QC it will just resemble another sacrifice or slipgate mode.
<< Comment #36 @ 00:43 CDT, 22 October 2018 >>
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By Germany garz  - Reply to #17
they started out by thinking we do not nned armors. item timing sucks. it takes away the action. now they partially brought them back. these guys are still learning what a good game needs to have and still they dont have it. i dont know how long you want to wait until tim or syncerror or whoever know what they do and dont rod until they find something that works (which all was already done not to mention).

this game will never have what it would take. i watched the pgl finals for example and they were close to boring. cooller vs rapha. close to boring. picture that.
<< Comment #38 @ 16:12 CDT, 22 October 2018 >>
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By ._o filo  - Reply to #36
what? ... i find duel boring, but i liked that match. or agent rapha... serious was also performing awesome.
<< Comment #39 @ 03:40 CDT, 23 October 2018 >>
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By Germany garz  - Reply to #38
most of the fights in qc are simply meaningless. one protects heavy the other mega. which spawn at the same time... lol about that. so both collect their item, equal amount of stack. both too smart to be trapped in a stupid fight. stalemate situation. until something random happens and one wins.
<< Comment #42 @ 11:53 CDT, 23 October 2018 >>
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By ._o filo  - Reply to #39
thats why they delay an item and are taking a risk.
<< Comment #44 @ 12:21 CDT, 23 October 2018 >>
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By Germany garz  - Reply to #42
and then it seems to be hard to come back because the lower armors do not over stack.
<< Comment #46 @ 16:11 CDT, 24 October 2018 >>
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By ._o filo  - Reply to #44
it is hard to comeback, that is why we appreciate a good comeback.
<< Comment #20 @ 15:22 CDT, 18 October 2018 >>
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By Poland Fizzle 
i has HIGH hopes fo dis game
u feel me mane??? =]<o~~~
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<< Comment #26 @ 02:31 CDT, 19 October 2018 >>
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By United States of America erok  - Reply to #20
Get blunted before using this awesome map maker should be fun fo real fo real!
<< Comment #41 @ 07:17 CDT, 23 October 2018 >>
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By Malaysia lolograde  - Reply to #20
When Diabotical drops, are you gonna reveal your true identity?
<< Comment #43 @ 11:54 CDT, 23 October 2018 >>
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By ._o filo  - Reply to #41
are you saying this is not his real identitiz, i think you have not smoked enough, mane.
Edited by filo at 11:55 CDT, 23 October 2018
<< Comment #45 @ 19:03 CDT, 23 October 2018 >>
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By Malaysia lolograde  - Reply to #43
I have an anonymous source who confirmed fizzle is, in fact, an aliaser of a famous Quake player.
<< Comment #48 @ 15:24 CST, 4 November 2018 >>
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By Poland Fizzle  - Reply to #41
when diabotical drops im finna drop tha hot new mixtape =]<o~~~
<< Comment #49 @ 07:52 CST, 29 November 2018 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic  - Reply to #48
no one can dizzle the fizzle
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<< Comment #47 @ 21:08 CDT, 27 October 2018 >>
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By SC_Terran Venim 
tbh this looks like yet another indie afps game... I want it to succeed but I just can't see it happening =\

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