japanese castles, ironworks, troubled waters, shining forces and courtyard like usual

Japanese Castles, Ironworks, Shining Forces, Troubled Waters, Siberia

dm6 dm13 t7 aero tox

fuck off ztn

ololo

dm20 purgatory tornado dp dm14

Only CTF maps, please

cp9, cp14, oh.

dm6 ztn dm13 hub t9

c t f not duel

de_dust, cp22, cp14, wxs1 and cp1 <3

Japanese Castles, Ironworks, Troubled Waters, Courtyard + new map?, has anyone actually played it a lot yet? Battlesuit pwnage? yes/no?
otherwise Finnegans, Shining Forces sucks

yes! would definitly love seeing/playing the new map.

Japanese Castles
Shining Forces
Ironworks
Troubled Waters
Finnegan's

ct3ctf2, q3wcp9, cp14, cp18 cp22

o w8

:) <3

Siberia, Ironworks, Finnegan's, Troubled Waters + New Map.

I'd play if it's just new maps

Something more original:
Double Impact
Finnegan's
Japanese Castles
Reflux
Stonekeep

Throwing in Japanese Castles just for the crowd who doesn't like new stuff. I think Reflux has massive potential and deserves a chance, and Double Impact is worth a try too. I never understood the Double Impact hate, some people say it's unbalanced but I don't know why. The RA and MH are far away from each other, you have to venture to get more powerful weapons like the RG and LG, and the map offers increased strategic play with the special bars which can be activated with a floorplate, making it more interesting than your typical CTF map. Sure, there is a nailgun but Siberia has one too and it's played a lot, so any argument about that is flawed.

Of course if I had to choose between the two I'd pick Reflux any day... but these two should both be tried for the sake of it and I can't see anything bad about them, especially considering that they're both made by people working with the industry, so they deserve a bit of appreciation / respect.

Japanese Castles
Shining Forces
Ironworks
Troubled Waters
Finnegan's / Reflux

Think the new map should be tested out more then in a pickup game.

Could have made a poll or something?

I'll go with:

japanese castles
troubled waters
finnegan's
ironworks
that new map with BS

ironwork
japanese castles
Reflux

Ironworks
Japanese Castles
Reflux
Stonekeep
Troubled Waters

Ey Syncerror. Coming any more maps in duel and ctf soon? //slayzah

Aye

Shameless self-promotion! :p j/k

How on earth could you have thought putting two medkits and BS in a ctf map is competitively viable?

Well, he was wanting to make his map unique - to set it apart from others. And in my humble opinion, I personally think that is more important than trying to make a map competitive - when a map introduces new elements and gimmicks that you don't see very much it adds variety and flavor, and thus adds replay value. The usual CTF recipe calls for a quad or regen in mid (maybe a haste once in a while), but you usually don't see other power-ups. So even though a lot of CTF maps may have good, original layouts, they still leave a "vanilla" taste in your mouth - not bad, but when the options are available, why not go for the Rocky Road, or Double Chocolate Fudge?

Besides, it's all about adaption. If the enemy has BS, then the other team should be prepared with well-stocked defenders with LG, to ambush the BS carrier when he arrives. The combined forces of a team (and teamwork is what CTF is all about, right?) shooting at him, if they don't already frag the BS carrier, will certainly leave him weak enough to allow someone in mid to make the final blow. Another teammate can also guard RA and Medkit and grab them before the BS carrier can obtain them - he may not be able to frag the BS carrier but he will deny important items. I think Reflux has as much competitive potential as any other CTF map, it's just different - and that's far from a crime.

"when a map introduces new elements and gimmicks that you don't see very much it adds variety and flavor, and thus adds replay value."

-Not for someone competitive.

"The usual CTF recipe calls for a quad or regen in mid (maybe a haste once in a while), but you usually don't see other power-ups. So even though a lot of CTF maps may have good, original layouts, they still leave a "vanilla" taste in your mouth - not bad, but when the options are available, why not go for the Rocky Road, or Double Chocolate Fudge?"

-Instead of having something stupid like a BS, he could've tried invisibility. With all the numbers at their disposal, it just makes no sense, common sensically and logically, to include such a powerful PU.

"The combined forces of a team (and teamwork is what CTF is all about, right?) shooting at him, if they don't already frag the BS carrier, will certainly leave him weak enough to allow someone in mid to make the final blow."

-The thing is, you need all four players to be hitting him with everything, and you can't miss. This is just unlikely to happen, and if he has a medkit or a teammate, it won't even matter if you do hit everything, as long he's determined to get out of the base, he doesn't need to even fight anyone, and can take all the shots. That means noone respawns in mid to take him out, and he has free reign across mid with support from team mates. Its just a fucking joke of a map. Its just depressing that someone with such little game sense is making maps instead of someone with a competitive mindset. After all, Quake is about gameplay, not avant garde.

Well, even if it is not competitive (and I still think it is imo) I personally believe that as long as it is fun to play, that is the important thing. I'd rather have someone on the level design team who is making maps with unique characteristics and gameplay for pure fun (which is what Quake and any other game was designed to be) than someone creating textbook arenas. Just my two cents. :)

SpaceCTF (ctf4)
Overlord
Ironworks
Japanese Castles
Dueling Keeps

TroubJapIronShinRef *COBOLT STATION

Troubled waters
Courtyard
Japanese castles
Shining forces
Finnegans

Ironworks
Troubled Waters
Siberia
Courtyard
Reflux

Ironworks
Japanese Castles
Duelling Keeps :P
Courtyard
Siberia

japanese castles
shining forces
finnegans
stonekeep
courtyard

japanese castles
shining forces
troubled waters
finnegans
reflux

c7, c8, c10, japan, shining

Japanese Castles
Siberia
Ironworks
Shining Forces
Courtyard

courtyard
finnegans
japanese castles
shining forces
ironworks

Japanese Castles
Ironworks
Shining Forces
Courtyard
Troubled Waters

Japanese Castles
Ironworks
Shining Forces
Courtyard
Troubled Waters

q3wcp9
q3wcp15
Japanese Castles
Shining Forces
Courtyard

Japanese Castles
Troubled Waters
Stonekeep
Siberia
Reflux

troubled waters
stonekeep
siberia
finnegan's
shining forces

finnegan's
japanese
shining forces
troubled waters
courtyard

Japanese Castles
Troubled Waters
Ironworks
Courtyard
Siberia

- finnegans is shit, and reflux is unplayable. rather stonekeep than those 2

Japanese Castles
Troubled Waters
Ironworks
Shining forces
Stonekeep/Reflux

Grim Dungeons
Hidden Fortress
Purgatory
Dreadful Place
Retribution

trololo

Japanese Castles
Shining Forces
Ironworks
Troubled Waters
Finnegan's

p9,p15
japanese castles
finnegans
shining forces
courtyard
stonekeep

w7
w3

troubled waters
ironworks
finnegan's
shining forces
reflux

/riosatiy

in descending order:
troubled waters
japanese castles
courtyard
shining forces
reflux

( ! rage )