selling this spot, highest bidder gets it /imsg

I'LL SUCK YOUR DICK

imsg!

ya i know, but right now im selling this spot, i'll call you when im done

:D

nice interview, wish all the other clans would do the same with their players.
was a bit disappointed with the coverage during the event. eswc ran for 4 days and we didnt get much content anyway.

fnatic do plenty of blogs and have got 3 large photo collections from the event :]

well we got a lot of pics in general, but i meant other stuff like interviews, blogs,articles, ...
and fnatic has 2 blogs from one of their cs players, doesnt really interest me and it is definitely not what i would call "plenty of blogs"

we did get slasher-2bd drama though

great interview, especially raphas answers, one of the few video interviews i bothered to watch
:e
i put it on reddit www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/clzn2/shane_...eswc_2010/ upvote to boost my e-pe

Rapha is a class act. Great champion and style. He's got nothing that really stands out about his game, except his strategies. He's the ultimate brain game, like how tox is the ultimate aimer.

Rapha FTW

EDIT:

Just thought about something. What about a tag-team duel competition. You and a friend sign up and then duel other teams. There are A and B, you decide which 1 is going to play first then both A's play and both B's play. If you win A and lose B, then you play the final AvsB.

The reason for this style of tournament instead of 2v2 tdm is that its more interesting because you alone can't win, you need your partner to be as good as you are. Thus more people would have to share their secrets and train more to make the competition fierce.

I mean Rapha + someone else vs cypher and av3k? That's not good for Rapha, so he'd have to train a lot with a teammate or get cooller to help him. And you never know what would happen in these tag-team battles.

[2v2 TDM is boring without maps and kind of boring to spectate]

I always thought that clan wars would be quite interesting in Quake using sc/wc3 method:
(for example)
3x 1v1
1x 2v2
1x 5x5

Then we could launch a pro-league like in Korea... lalala

there aren't enough "pro" gamers for that i'd guess, otherwise it's a fun thought

well... eswc already did this when fox/sweden won, but instead of clans it was nations. :)

afiak that was only duel, no tdm.

weren't we talking about that kind of duel league? :D

3x 1v1
1x 2v2
1x 5x5

Did you ignore 66% of this part?

gg random.

QuakeNight did that.. I dunno how successful it was though. They called it the Team Duel league.
And umm 2v2 TDM has more maps than any other mode in QL... O_o

which are? dm6 t6 ztn and.. what's left?

dm6, ztn, t6, t7, ca2, dm7, dm20

All work for 2v2s.. especially ca2/dm7/t6 !

CA2, DM7 and DM20 feel wayyyyy too big to me.

most people who don't tdm would think that... do you play tdm?

Yes I do.

CA2 is surprisingly fun for tdm. :)

I was one of the people running said league, the problem with a team duel lineup is that the top players would band together and would be pretty much unstoppable due to the format.

Imagine being a team trying to beat rapha/dahang/dkt (for example) where each guy is playing on one of their favorite and/or strongest maps. Same would apply to say cypher/cooller/avek for european players.

It actually worked quite well for mid level players though I should point out. Those matches were pretty entertaining.

thats how SF4 team tournaments work.

That's similar to how ESWC 2004 was conducted. Teams were nation-based. It was a fun event.

@video: Rix was the first person to win 2x Quakecon titles, then Zero4 (3) and Toxic.

Results from that event:

1. Sweden - Fazz, Fox, Z4muz, Fooki: $10,000
2. United States - Czm, Zero4, Chaoticz, Socrates: $6,000
3. Russia - Cooller, Morfez, Unkind, Evil: $2,000
3. Belarus - Keeper, Enemy, Cherya, Immortal: $2,000

more info: http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=634709&page=23

That really was one of the most interesting tourneys to follow IMO (and I genuinely believe this would've been my opinion regardless of .se's placement...).

Man, what an awesome event. I vote for this format next year :D

Let's make both format then with a lesser focus on the team one !

I think it's a shame and very frustrating to end up being top3/4 because your mates couldn't match your level of play. I'm personally not for running this format without running the other one at the same time.

The very best has to get a 1st place!

God yes, that was such a great tournament. The ZTN match in the final series between czm and Z4muz is one of my all time favorites. It seemed both were really giving it their all for the entire 15 minutes. They were playing for more than just themselves, they were playing for their teammates and their country! An epic tournament it was. :D

yep. for me that also was the most awesome event to watch so far. combining 1on1 duel with a nation cup idea is +

We had that in UT2004. It was an ESL league system... UTCL? I think. :P

4v4 TDM - 2 maps (1 point per map)
2v2 TDM - 1 map (1 point)
2x1on1 - (2 diffirent games, 1 point per game)

The maps were all pre-determined, and you had to announce your team right before the game (to the admins). So you had to be clever about which player you put forward for which mode/map. Your team could win 5:0 at best. Each player could only play two game modes. Was great fun!

oops

ye i was thinking of doing a cb hosted cup like that for ql before

tox is the ultimate aimer

there was far more to his game than great aim, especially cause only his lg really stood out, his rail was very constant, much like stermys, but he didnt pull of lots of crazy shots and flicks. and his plasma/rockets were also good, but they didnt really stand out

Yes, tox had very good positioning and dodge skills as well as aim. You had to, if you played TDM competitively back then.

not arguing (you're probably right) but at least in the TDM days I loved the "wtf" rails he would pull too ("wtf" as in "that seemed amazingly skilled" rather than "that seemed amazingly lucky").

ic vs biber 2v2 eurocup = eyesex by tox

oh and yes he became so much more than "just aim" in duel, breaks my heart to not see it since q4 :'(

We had that in UT2004. It was an ESL league system... UTCL? I think. :P

4v4 TDM - 2 maps (1 point per map)
2v2 TDM - 1 map (1 point)
2x1on1 - (2 diffirent games, 1 point per game)

The maps were all pre-determined, and you had to announce your team right before the game (to the admins). So you had to be clever about which player you put forward for which mode/map. Your team could win 5:0 at best. Each player could only play two game modes. Was great fun!

astz :o

<3 2K4

Hello! <3

Rapha is the real deal!

I guess now we see why they didn't/couldn't do bo5...it was too dam hot!

Rapha made the news on the website of the most read paper in (french speaking) Belgium:

http://www.dhnet.be/cine-tele/multimedia/arti...video.html

The article is mostly about that kid who won the fifa 2010 tournament but there's a paragraph about "Rapha S. Hendrixon beating Azekkk" :D

First time I can read something about Quake in my regular newspaper, that's nice !

Belgium must be boring as fuck if game tourneys make the news

The summer is usually a slow news time for the newspapers so they tend to have lots of filler stories just about everywhere.

lol @ title: 'A frenchman of 13 wins the first world cup in video games'

"Rapha S. Hendrixon beating Azekkk"

lmao!

lmao@Poland getting French'ed in Belgium.

It's funny they say it's the first ever video games world cup then they mention at the end of the article that the event already existed previously as the... electronic sports world cup.

btw la Dernière Heure is more read than Le Soir (it's possible, I thought it was the opposite)?

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Grats to RAPHA! It is just unbelievable how strong his mental game is. This is by far the biggest advantage for him against the other top players imho. E.g.Cypher is not even close to him in this part of the game.

He is the Michael Jordan of QL. Bulls head coach Doug Collins come to mind for me. Before the last second game winning shot from MJ he said this at the time out: “Give the ball to Michael and everyone else get the fuck out of the way.”

Just give the RL the Rapha and all will be fine :)
Oh man those in your face rockets at the end of t7 against Avek. That was sick. I am cheering for the europeans and i am sick to death about Rapha winning everything but he trully deserves it. A LITTLE luck was needed this time after the Stermy loss other than that he played perfectly. Huge respect to him as a player and as a person too.

Cooller iview:

"Your thoughts of Rapha?

Totally good thoughts! He’s very polite, respecting, always friendly and kind, he is always understanding. I have only good words for him. "

:)

Interview with cooller as the winner would be so <3

can anyone please explain to me how is this possible that stermy won 4 of 6 matches and didnt go through?

i dont even need to mention that he defeated rapha for the second time (1st was online)

4 out of 6? not really

according to this:

http://live.eswc.com/?jeu=55

yes

he beat: rapha, strenx, garpy, linkje

and lost to: avek and cypher

stermy passed 1st group stage as 2nd in group, beat garpy and linkin, lost to don't remember who. (cypher?)

2nd group stage he beat rapha 2:1, strenx 2:1, lost to av3k 2:0.

3 players tied on 2W:1L, but stermy has 4:4 maps, rapha and av3k have 5:3. so stermy is out. and between rapha and av3k av3k topped the group according to the rule which makes map dropped to the lower placed player irrelevant.

thank you for the info and these rules suck :|

no, they don't actually. avek ended up in the final, but stermy lost to him quite convincingly. so you basically say that stermy should have gone on instead of rapha?

no, i dont basicaly say what u say

Then why do you think the rules suck? Looking at maps is the best way to determine who goes through in the case of a three-way tie.

would be fair er if they all playes the same amount of maps, though. e.g. always 3 so you either get a 3-0 or a 2-1 win.

Does anyone know if Rapha or any other QL players get a salary? Just wondering... prize money is quite low at the moment.

don't know about salary but rapha already won +18 000$ cash prize this year.

That would be a fairly good wage if he gets the same for 2nd half of the year. It's a shame 2nd, 3rd place and so on get so little though. I can't see how they can support themselves without a job or salary from their team.

Cooller gets 500$ from mousesports. I might be wrong but I think he mentioned it in an interview with sk.

think it was razer

That was the Russian interview he did after DreamHack Winter. Cooller said he got 500E and that rapha got $500-700. How accurate the latter is you'll have to decide for yourself. This was also before rapha resigned with SK I think.

rapha and cooller get a salary for sure. dahang, strenx, av3k and cypher could aswell but im not sure. dont think any other player does though

strenx is mainly sponsored by zotacs and gdatas and all that crowd that fail to beat him each weekend

fnatic mouz serious sk give salary for sure.
Dunno about EG tho

DaHanG DEFINITELY does. EG has some of the best salaries out there.

i'd be more interested to hear what cooller has to say about his loss to av3k.

hes gonna say what hes allways saying that his opponent is:

1. alltimes lucky

2. make stupid decisions which re hard to predict

all of the above re plain bullshit ofc but antoine coolleraine strongly believes that hes the best

what he should realize that hes mostly loosing cos of sky high ego which is the main cause of a huge amount of stress hes gettin and that ego-caused stress makes him playing like a retard

and thats true the only think hes doing now is timing every single item on the map and hes running the items until he got fragged then he chokes and looses

he was playign better at dubai now its just pure retardness

he made 3rd place, nothing wrong with that

There's at least two things wrong with it:
-you didn't come 1st
-you didn't come 2nd

Coming 3rd is good if you're a guy in the top 5 or the top 8 and you have a great tournament where you overperform. If you're someone who truly has the ability to win the championship then coming 3rd should be crushing for you. The really high level winners in sports go home depressed when they finish 2nd, even if they put on a smile for the cameras.

When you've played 40-50 duels per day coming 3rd is not a result you should be content with if you're an elite level player.

everything you say is correct.

but if you play or do anything at a very VERY high level, and arguably, these quake players do so:
every tournament placement between the very top level duelers (to those i include av3k, cooller, cypher, rapha ...) is dependant first and foremost on each player's day form.

ofcourse my selection of "top level duelers" is very narrow, and even tho many others should feel themselves included, this is not the topic of discussion. i am simply trying to say, that even if someone placed 3rd or 2nd place in this tournament, it is surely not because he is lesser skilled than whoever is ahead of him.

also, what i am saying is in no way meant to take anything away from rapha, he is undoubtedly a sure top2 candidate, arguably the best player in the last 2 years and certainly the most dominant player from 2009 onward.

The only retardness here is you sir!

Only his fans say he is the best but it is rather a joke now. Show me an interview where Cooller said that he is is the best! He finsihed 2nd and 3rd at the last 2 ql lans he attended placing higher then Cypher both times. Thats what i call a choke. Whats wrong with that? Loosing to Avek and Rapha is not something to be ashamed of.

Best player ever ;)

he didnt say hes the best but he surely thinks like that

its so obvious come on

all that trash talk about luck and stupid opponents lmao

im a cooller fan myself but im just beein objective

i rly want him to win something but he cant cos of the mentioned ego and hes been practicing like a few days for this eswc and didnt attend dreamhack cos of pure lazyness (just pls dont tell me u rly believe in that visa story)

i agree cypher chokes much more

it's interesting, i tried to make clear that i would like to hear what cooller has to say about his loss but instead some jew filled my inbox with a retarded answer - something is wrong here.

HEIL TWISTER! \o

The problem is he won't gonna say anything. The "luck" stuff and similar are also convenient phrases to avoid telling what really was going on.

I'm probably wrong, but at the beginning of dm6 cooller asked avek if he could hear him picking up armor, and avek answered "NO" like kind of impatient. To me, that looked liked they had a possibly emo discussion just before the game.

Av3k uses capslock for his shaft bind.

Saying which percentage exactly of his chat would be all caps, due to random lg capslock? Because I think it never is, except GG. Which itself is consistent.

the blessed sk-rapha.

I'm pretty curious - what's the correct play for strenx at the beginning of that dm6 game? Would just peeking before dropping to red solve this opening?

The correct thing for strenx to do would be stop trying to prove that dm6 was all lg. That'd be a major leap forward.

strenx is the king canute of QL

King Cunt sounds more accurate.

strenx is cool.

His comment to cooller about dm6 is going down in history !!

He should have went for mega when he saw rapha hadn't taken it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLtw2_-JvTw
lmao what

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Interesting point. But here's what I remember happening. Since the maplist was announced in advance, teams would decide amongst themselves who would play what. Players would naturally spend most, if not all of their time practicing on that map alone.

I kinda got the impression that the tourney was more of a training tool that let them focus on improving a single map at a time as opposed to a semi-competitive event.

Rapha's furious masturbation increases his forearm strength which therefore produces fast twitch muscle fibers INCREASING his quick twitch fast reactions to players on the screen COMBINED with the knowledge of being the Son Of God knowing where all his enemy's are at all times, is what makes his Rocket Launcher the most deadliest in the game. I shouldn't be telling anyone this but I've been lanning with Rapha for the past few years. The ONLY way to beat him is to have a Satanic star placed on top of his screen (which he regularly checks). Your's truly ( toxjq )

"For ZeRo4 so loved the world that He gave His only begotten protege, so that everyone who believes in Him will not see Eastern Europeans win QuakeLive championships but have to hear Slasher talk about American triumphs."
-Rapha 3:16

Other wisdom:

"let him without game sense make the first move"

"man shall not live on frags alone, but on positioning and accurate scouting of one's opponents"

"Can you pull in Cooller with an LG fake or beat him to an RA? Can you put a rail through his nose or pierce his 'defense style' with a shotgun blast? Will he keep begging you for mercy? Will he speak to you with gentle words?"

he is like the great GitzZz of QL.