1 map in 5, 6, 7 months? Ah, the breakneck pace of life in the corporate world.

lol what a pathetic roadmap. The slower they release content, the better Diabotical will fare. Items such as balancing, game optimization, item/weapon skins, matchmaking improvements, should not be highlights on a roadmap. Those should be defaults during an early access.

Let's not be delusional here, Diabotical will be about as played as Reflex or Warsow.

There is no place for arena shooters in this day and age of gaming, and Quake is probably the only one that can barely get away with it because of the reputation of the franchise.

What reputation?

Brand awareness and having had one of the most famous FPS games of the time in Quake3.

You're kidding right? Most people have no idea the Quake franchise exists, let alone Quake 3.

If we talk relatives, Quake is easily the most famous and known arena shooter, far more known than Xenotic, Reflex, Warsow, Unreal Tournament and whatnot. Of course it's not big compared to many other games but that's the not the point, the point is that it barely survives because it is at least a bit known.

Quake3 when it came out was one of the few online FPS available and one of the most played FPS before CS, TF etc. took over, so yeah Quake3 has been the most popular quake as opposed to the other Quake games which came after Q3 at a time when many other FPS were popular.

Quake 3 came out in 1999. It is currently 2018. No one gives a shit about Quake or any of its clones, and no one has given a shit in a very, very, very, long time.

And no one will give a shit about diabolical, that was my point.

Comparing indie dev team vs. AAA developers... lol?

Yeah mate just keep ignoring the main point that diabolical won't be big and that QC failing won't help it either.

Everyone and their mother's dog's girlfriends will try Eggbots.
Mark my words.
Who knows, maybe even Soe.

I see what you did there

Stop being toxic and negative.

Not toxic and negative. Factual.

Name me 1 arena shooter apart from quake that has more than 100 online players on a monthly average.

The only 2 are Quakelive and Quake Champions.

Everybody on here was mega excited about Reflex and the game was a complete flop.

Apart from people on this site, barely anyone has heard about Diabotical so far and I don't see anything in the game that will make it any more popular than the many other arena shooters which came about and died.

Diabotical will be about as played as Reflex or Warsow

Factual.

Your guesses are now facts?
A factual statement would go like this: "Out of ~1 million players who tried QC, the game currently has about 2k players on avarage, after being handed out for free to everyone, before tournaments with $1mill prizepool."

Diabotical will bring something that people wanted for a long time: good old gameplay, modern features and tools to help newcomers enjoy and improve. It's as if they cared about their (future) customers, the excact opposite of id.

Now spout your "but qc has more players than ql !1!" line and begone.

+'s you for being optimistic.

I really hope I'm wrong and diabolical will succeed tbh.

Judging from that workload, looks like there's just 2 people left working on the project...

1 map wew :S

also why balance change when winter instead just after qcon

Does it not say 1 map in Fall and 1 map in Winter?

AFAIK that's 2 maps not 1.

There is so much to be looking forward to!

maybe

just maybe

quake 5 quad arena or Q1 remake

PLZ ^_^

rofl speedbump for train

Diabotical!

if they keep adding champions then isn't it just going to make it harder and harder to balance 40 diff champz?
also it's funny that "...and more!" is only shown for fall

Why is that funny?

it's funny in a peculiar sense, not 'pissing myself with laughter' kinda way.

to use 'and more' in relation to the fall updates but not the winter is odd as it implies a rigid strictness to the road map which we all know is absolutely not true

I knew what context you used the word funny for, I just don't get what's so peculiar about it.

The way I read it they have something in mind for Fall that they want to keep secret for now, but use "and more" to indicate there is indeed something more they're excited about. That's how I take it.

I think you're paying too much attention to detail just to try and find flaws. That makes you come across as a salty nerd trying hard to bash something, kinda sad really.

and more

posting in a tayski thread....

They have to, because their business model is going to be based on champions.

The change on the wording of what the champions pack gets you implies that it will be non-purchasable in the future. Therefore the idea is to charge noobs for each character.

For example, QC desperately needs is medium and big sized maps. It should have twice or thrice more at this point. But that doesn't directly pay the bills, so instead of hiring mappers lets hire character animators instead.

Lastly, lol @ people thinking Diabotical will matter in the slightest bit. It's another Warsow in the making.

There's a lot of stuff that id needs to fix, yes we do need more Medium-Large sized maps for casual gametypes like FFA/TDM, but also because they have new gametypes coming out.

Secondly 2gd has one chance to not fuck up Diabotical and try to get as many people into the game, otherwise Diabotical will be in ARENA FPS heaven.

diabotical is coming