wow faceit :D , GREAT ty !

Tomorrow casters in studio for you will be Xavier "zoot" Dhorne and Daniel "ddk" Kapadia.

It seems I've won already >:D

Good luck dude! - some tough competition.

hopefully spart1e stops getting his ass whooped

Hopefully yours ends being the only noob comment in the thread.

your hope wont hold for long...

needs more strenx

excellent!

faceit already done so much for the scene, it's amazing <3

Hope everyone will enjoy tomorrow night's show :)

last stream was bit better quali ! But still not ok for me :(

Sounds nice man, will be speccing.

good idea to play all each other :)

AWW YISS

You've heard the Lithuanian Oscar Wilde above me!

n1 faceit

so nice. f*ck you euros

no party for spartie ?

weekend after this :)

Very cool :)

I hope official and Russian streams will show different matches...

or both can show and all matches get streamed. here's another idea for faceit to toy around with it if they want, but do something similar prior to DHW consisting of all the DH invites.

i hope official wont lag shit ass

Cheers faceit, this next vodka shot is for you.

And well done nicer for finding a way to milk some plusses.

:D

I hope there is a good working stream this time

Russian is always ok, but you'll have to turn sound off :D

good one for more comps, but why not inv cypher avek killsen and evil or something (top 4 from lan)

evil is invitet?!

i know but i meant why not invite that distinct 4.

i think my suggestion is similar. have a faceit cup before DHW w/ all the dhw invites

yeah, cool idea. "try it online, then proof it on LAN" :)

yeah :D I hope they do it.

Cypher and Av3k are praccing for ESWC, k1llsen had something else as well.

thanks for clearing that up then, eswc for them = shootmania right?

yes

sad

Indeed.

40 bucks? cmon guys squeeze in that extra ten, at least make it a "round" number

40 bucks are rounded: its 1mio rubles!

Feel free to donate that extra 10, they already donated 40.

at the moment i transform myself into a company that tests its advertiesment platform for future profit gains i will.

I prefer nothing tbh than the prices from faceit

they just make ql sound like a joke. They through money to laughable ventures, like flying casters and then treat ql players like monkeys, giving them peanuts and expect them to dance for their amusement and their stream. I honestly prefer nothing, than being treated like this. I know the vast majority disagrees with me and agrees with you, but still can’t keep my mouth shut.

haha, pay casters, pay the guys runing it, spend atleast couple of hundred euros.. give 40eur to the players.. is this their business model?

how isnt it working? these players would probably play even with 0 money there, so why wouldnt they pay minumum

I can buy foot for whole week with 40e :(

Why would any sane person pump more money into QL at this point in time for these kinds of cups? To appease the massive ~100 people audience? QL is a joke, if we're talking about competitive gaming, get over it. You should be grateful there is anything at all still going on involving money and QL in the same context.

bo5 ! sweet

i think i'll have to vote for all the baksteen-games, since his gameplay is really entertaining. <3

When prize is below $100 you should always give it in indian rupees.

Thats 2,150 INR

baksteen aka online only got invited? L O L

but that's online cup, ain't it? ;)

online only who beat czm on his first LAN

barely beating a 30 yo guy, who didnt play for 6 months, and did almost no pracc... he should put this in his CV

jus did some research: czm played exectly 30 duels before lan... lots of pracc

yeah, we'll see what he will do at dreamhack. maybe stupid idiots like you will then shut up.

if he goes you mean

He's only posting crap so people reply to him.

Do yourself a favor and ignore this inbred piece of fuck.

yeah probably better.. thx mate

y u spoil my fun? u no nice

why so much hate towards baksteen ?

he's one of the best duel player atm, you can't deny that.

according to Anhedonique i post crap so ppl can reply to me :<

and imo hes still one of most promising players, still long way ahead of him... yet ppl see him as hes fucking fatality*


*and we all know fat was bestest gamer ever

because all these top players never use fake accounts~

are you suggesting baksteen actually plays much more? :>

Cooller didn't play for... lets just say: for a long period of time at all. And I can tell you if he sits tomorow and play - he will wipe the floor with you, with me and with almost every player@ql in his FIRST game. Cheers. :)

we all noobz :<

please stop being a gigantic retard and most importantly : stfu

dont tell me how to live, maggot

Don't tell me how to scan, because I know.
http://www.scantips.com/begin.html

Don't tell me how to drink water, because I know.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/citylife/2007-01...788883.htm

Mine is obviously the best (for a FPS community):

http://www.mouseprogram.com/mousepractice/

:D

go spart1e!!!!

Also, there will be russian stream: DarkRa

You guys can already sign up for the Sunday Cup #5 btw: http://faceit.com/tournaments/845850de-5d79-4...0772e8f9bf

nice

The first match-up poll is up: http://www.facebook.com/FaceitCommunity/timel...p;ustart=1

Scheduled: ### TIME SYNTAX ERROR ### to ### TIME SYNTAX ERROR ###

Nothing beats ESR

pavel's gonna win that

fanged mol ah gopferteli

122 viewers enjoying a nice black screen lol

Is that stream or a slideshow?

Edit: fine now

Talking about T4 in competitions, might be a good idea to make an extended version of this map with an additional room of 3 levels and a grenade launcher.?

no

Not Facebook fan here. Next time put your vote system on FB AND Faceit.com. thx guys.

That stream is a joke, sad.

Very nice framerate for the stream when it works properly.

Own3D are having some issues with 480p and lower. HD should be fine.

Poll for match 2 is up as well: http://www.facebook.com/FaceitCommunity/timel...p;ustart=1

theres problems with hd aswell(
huuuuge lags

gj.

And stream havent changed. stream is a joke idd.....

Should be fixed now. Was a scaling issue.

FUCKING UNWATCHEBLE ....

Still laging though. I bet its own3d.

Tried to switch to 480p?

this

ddk is $$$

true, he has a relaxed way to talk.

Well, first I want to say thank you to Faceit for doing all these things!

However, the quality (or lack thereof) of the stream is really putting a damper in my excitement :(

There isnt much point in making tourny's like these if the viewers cant really watch it. I wish you guys would switch to twitch, which seems to work much nicer for me (and others?).

Yes, stream is unwatchable ( surprise ). What was the 4d link fov vods?

omg!!, an "alien frag" by spartie at 4.10 on toxic

i aint mean no whine, but its better not to have sex at all, than having it interrupted 3 times a minute.

crappy motherfucking stream, i wish i didnt start watching it at all(

sry but where can i see current results?.

stream lags a lot :(

at HD have freezes, but at 480p working good. at my home )

strange, for me its other way around

lol at DDK's jinx.
"If one forfeits we'll have one match to stream!", a bo5 later evil leaves because he's sick lol

maybe its routing issue with own3d, for me the stream is good.

own3d is such complete shit. I've been watching a slideshow the entire time. it's also been like this since the very first cup.

Twitch is the exact same for probably the same percentage of people, it's complete garbage at peak hours and freezes even in 360.. while I can watch smoothly in 1080 at any time of the day on own3d.

"I can watch smoothly in 1080 at any time of the day on own3d."

U should start your answer with only this. Your opinion is useless.

"Twitch is the exact same for probably the same percentage of people"

You are wrong.

Nice arguing right there.

And yes, there are many people having issues with twitch. Had you seen the shitstorm that happened when TSM switched from own3d to twitch because of that very reason, you wouldn't be saying that. But I guess you are one of those who have issues on own3d, so not really objective.

i have a twitch and owned stream open at the same time and they're both working fine.

480p working nice for me

wow

baksteen vs spartie on hektik

wp baksteen. srs

baksteen spart1e were awesome games, sadly baksteen ragequited before spart1e's gg at last game.

has it finished?

Pavel vs. Spart1e to decide the winner

pavel vs. spart1e on tox

http://www.jorymon.com/images/2010/june/cat.jpg

i hard (c) pavel

This is why ztn needs to go.

Oh man I hate ZTN... such a horrible and boring +back map

dont hate the map, hate the players. ztn is an awesome map, but i agree +back whores can make a better player end with a big headache. Im mostly a +forward player so i try to evade them tho.

Well, you know, the thing is I can't really hate the player. Because they are smart/good for +backing on this map. If done correctly, the opponnent just can't do much about it.

So in all honesty, it really IS the map that needs to get the blame. Because the same players that +back on this map will +forward on other maps, just because of how the maps play.

ztn, the capital of russia

whats the name of the song in the commercials?

Have no lags at any quality

grats spart1e!

enjoyed the stream, thanks guys.

thanks for watching

Thanks for watching all! Be sure to tune in tomorrow again!

Nice cup ! Thx guys.

who is working for faceit anyway... I'd like to have a chat with him about what should actually happen...

Because an invite cup for 40$ is worse than having one for free...
Especially because you have an own studio and fly people in to cast. Wtf do they think quake players are?

I won't even be able to get 4 homeless people to do something like selling papers for 3 hours with 40$... here you have some of the 'best players in the world' and only one of them gets scraps.
To me this type of tourney is an insult to QL.

u definitly mad :>

not really angry though... I just think that this is rediculous.

If you put up 100$ each week for a tournament it's different. Because then people that just 'want to play for it' can sign up.
In tournaments like this they actively aproach players and ask them if they would want to free their schedual at some time in order to do some tournament. It's horrible that they only put up 40$.

Now that I'm somewhat more viewing gaming from an outsiders perspective there is SO much wrong with gaming.
The whole financial structure is fubar and doomed to fail. This tournament being one of the prime examples of it.

you are really weird

...you don't say...

how come you think its an insult to QL is completely beyond me...

Guys at Faceit are doing their best to keep community alive, this particular week they do two cups, both really interesting, both gathering hundreds to watch streams. It's simply brilliant!

Seriously, would you rather have an invitational cup with no prize at all? I know 40 bucks is not much, but all in all it attracts the attention of players and the rule 'winner takes it all' makes by default more competitive.

You won't be able to get 4 homeless people to work, because they still have enough dignity to refuse working for such a douchebag.

And if I was to follow your shite metaphor - I guess you mean homeless people would rather sell papers for free, aye?

To me your type of thinking is an insult to QL

Yes they would rather sell papers for free.
Because then they would feel like they do something for the sake of others rather than for their own gain. When you pay them they can't really convince themselves of that anymore.
It's shown quite a few times in sociology/psychology already that it works like this.

Why this is an insult is easy... they have to make costs to get the 2 casters to Italy. Which in no way is reflected in the price money for the tournaments.
When you would spend around 500$ (which would prolly be the bare minimum to get the shoutcasters to Italy (train / plane / food / place to sleep / hire of the studio etc.)... it's probably a lot more.
And you give 40$ as prize money for some tournament that takes around 3 hours of time by 4 of the "most skilled players". I find it an insult.
It's like saying "We'll hire world best 4 people for 3 hours... and we'll pay the guy that does best... a bit less than minimum wage".

40 dollars is still 40 dollars which is around 30 euros / sterling and it's a free tourney so it's still money. I really don't understand why people are getting so worked up about it; it's a reputable organisation with a brilliant cast and a high quality structure delivering us the individuals free live games.

They don't have to do this but they do out of the goodness of their hearts. You're lucky quake even sees prize money these days let alone 40 bucks.

Ungrateful or what isn't even the word.

sorry m8 but assume they spent like 600$ to 'give' us this tournament 'out of the goodness of their hearts' (recon I think it's more than that and eventually it all winds down to profit).... And it ends up that the best player gets 40$. Something is fucked up.
Only thing that can explain that is having the wrong priorities.

they have the studio, the caster were already there or anyway they would have come for sunday cup, they want to try something new like a tournament on saturaday and started with a low prize. Is that so offensive to quake?

With how it is set up... yes it is.
Imo I've explained why I feel that it is in other posts already.

tbh my eyes just kinda breezed over the cash prize when I skimmed for cup details. Weird makes a very good point here: one either compensates top level attendance with a prestige award($0) or better, a monetary award COMMENSURATE with the level of players,i.e., in this case at LEAST three figures.

CUP WAS ON FUCKING SATURDAY, INVITES ARE JUST A PLAYERS WHO GOT FLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU OR SOMETHING AND CANT GO OUT... THEY WOULD PLAY FOR FREE

ps. caps rocks man

not sure if you meant to respond to my post? (agreed on "would play for free")

yes, it was a reply to you...

lets be honest: weird never has good points

I'm glad we've got you here for some good points.

srsly man?

we've had enough conversations for you to notice i love to flame ppl for no reasons, troll them, or say some bs just to keep myself entertained


plus im fucking awesome, and you are all dumb fucks

thats just sad

u jelly coz my life awesome?

ohic in your response to Anhedon, you just trollin' np -- made the mistake of assuming equal dialogue standing.

little fucker stalks me, telling ppl i troll, spoiling my fun :< my life is miserable because of anhedomaggot :<


and you will never know if im serious, or just fucking around... that makes me hell of a troller :D

well if your life is miserable, at least you feel something...whereas "anhedonique" as you know literally means 'not feeling anything.' so you got that on him :)

you just mad coz you wasnt invited, and had nothing to do at home?

sad story bro...

I kinda stopped playing.... how would I ever expect to be invited?

ow sorry, i didnt know you dont play... but how could I? its not like you're famous or something

which is yet another reason for me not to expect being invited.

I think your metaphor is completely wrong. In one, you ask people to do a boring job, in the other you ask people to do what they love, and give them the chance to earn a prize with it. The players had all the right to say no if they didn't feel like playing.

The casters get flown over for the weekend, to normally cast the Sunday Cups. Now we had time to put in an extra 40$, so now instead of the usual one cup, you get two.

Flying the casters over is a business concept which goes further than online streams and also further than Quake. I cannot reveal much about it yet, but it's not like people haven't thought the idea through and somehow thought they could make a profit on only flying people over, paying out prize money, and get a load of bucks of own3D TV ad money in return.

So this is why pro-gaming fails :(

If someone really likes to sell papers... would that mean that I don't have to pay him?
Will he ever be able to make his favorite thing to do (selling papers) into a job or will it always remain a hobby?

next point to make...
If they really love the game. Then why (under) pay all of them for it?

You're comparing it to a job. They are free to enter or not. If they think it's not enough, they can pass. We're not paying them to enter, we're just giving them a reward if they win.

well from the business side when they are "good enough to be invited" they should "have the skill to get people to your stream". Which then would mean that someone gets $ for that.

Now for instance this could be viewed as an interview program. The host obviously has to show up every time the program airs (he should ofcourse be paid accordingly) and guests can join him to talk about stuff.
Now some people think that their message is so important to be heard that they might actually pay to be aired.
Most people however will be invited to say what they have to say because it is relevant for the audience of the program. These people should ofcourse have a reason to go to that program (which could be $ but it could also be becomming more known or perhaps even to do someone a personal favor (etc.)).

When you view it like this a lot of problems arrise (imo) with the invite tournament.

Well, the players were happy to play so we have no problem at all.

good point.

VODs for those who missed it (with download links). The parts that matter are from #3 to #5:

Part #1 (0:00'39") - http://www.own3d.tv/FACEITtv/video/859694
Too short, didn't bother with it.

Part #2 (0:33'59") - http://www.own3d.tv/FACEITtv/video/859798
Only the FI logo the entire time.

(Something is missing here, as the 3rd part starts at around the 2nd minute of the 1st map of the game between Evil vs Spart1e. No intro, no welcome, no nothing. So rude!)

Part #3 (0:14'09") - http://www.own3d.tv/FACEITtv/video/859825
Download: http://owned.vo.llnwd.net/v1/videos/SD/859000...Q.mp4?ms=0

Part #4 (1:00'06") - http://www.own3d.tv/FACEITtv/video/859906
Download: http://owned.vo.llnwd.net/v1/videos/SD/859000...Q.mp4?ms=0

Part #5 (1:59'59") - http://www.own3d.tv/FACEITtv/video/860090
Download: http://owned.vo.llnwd.net/v1/videos/SD/860000...Q.mp4?ms=0

Part #6 (0:03'55") - http://www.own3d.tv/FACEITtv/video/860094
Another FI logo and intro movie.

my laptop can't handle them :( fuck 720p 60fps streams

The only way I can watch 720p@60fps is downloading the mp4's and playing them with VLC. If I try to watch them in the browser, all I get is a crappy slideshow.

even the mp4s are too much for my mini laptop

not sure why Asus, MSI or Alien can't just sponsor you already and send you a gaming laptop to use?

How do u get the download links to files on own3d.tv? Anyway, thanks a lot man!

Look up the source (ctrl+U on Firefox) and do a search for "mp4" with ctrl+F.
You get this :

playlist: [{

url: 'videos/SD/860000/860090_508c569866e2c_HQ.mp4',


provider: 'pseudo',
accelerated: true,
autoStart:true,
duration:'7199'

}],

Then look up "baseurl" (though it shouldn't change) and you get this :

clip: {
baseUrl:'http://owned.vo.llnwd.net/v1/',
scaling: 'fit',
provider: 'pseudo',
autoStart:true,
accelerated: true,
bufferLength:1,
top:10
},

Combine baseurl with url and you will have your download link.

As a matter of fact, on most websites searching the source for mp4 or mp3 (in case of mp3 streaming websites) will be enough, maybe sometimes you'll have to dig a little bit more but that's usually fairly simple.

Even easier with AdBlockPlus, on the page with the player and once you have launched the file (audio or video), click "Open blockable items" and do a search for mp4 or mp3 and you will have directly the link most of the time, works really well on soundcloud for instance.

Same question on twitch... but i guess it's not possible.

Really you should just download jdownloader, works great with twitch and pretty much any other websites streaming websites.

You can still use this website that does the job but isn't really easy to use : http://bashtech.net/twitch/download.php?stream=faceittv
The problem being that twitch videos are split in 30 minutes segments, with jdownloader you get everything already named and organized so it's more convenient.

Thx for the tip man.

PS: i'm at work and jdownloader doesnt work there, neither your link.. i can just get own3d videos :(

I use the DownThemAll! extension for Firefox. :)

I like how some people think they can manage the financial situation of another company that they know nothing about.

Screw your business plan, listen to some guy on a forum, 100% legit trustworthy PhD in Economics, money back guarantee.

So? People can still comment on it.

"who is working for faceit anyway... I'd like to have a chat with him about what should actually happen..."

edit: and this is not the only comment that looks like this.

I don't get your point. What's wrong with having an opinion on how to do things? Or should every comment on this site be from completely boring people fishing for plusses.

What's so hard to understand?
I don't think people without knowledge about the financial background of a certain company can reveal anything that they themselves don't know.

It's also getting really hard to post anything on ESR lately without someone mentioning my plusses. After all I didn't plus myself to 90% or whatever.

Why did you even have to bring this up in this conversation is beyond me.

I think flying in people to create a more formal looking stream is better than a bit higher prize pool, I don't think many people would tune in to a stream of a shitty unknown game because it has 500$ prize money instead of ordinary 40 to 100.

I didn't mention your plusses specifically, you just did.

I'm sorry, I thought you replied to me.

Re-read my post, it's still there? If I was referring to you I would have worded it something like this:

Or should every comment on this site be from completely boring people, such as yourself, who do little more than fish for plusses with uninteresting comments that make more of an effort to kill discussion rather than enhance it.

Do you see the difference? My actual post speaks generally about esr, this reworded version is tailored more towards you.

I just presumed it was aimed towards me, no hard feelings.
Other than that, I'm more interested in your view about flying in casters and prize pool.

From my point of view it's pretty simple. Flying in casters while having such a small prize pool is pretty sickening. The players are the ones who make tournaments interesting, but they are getting, by comparison, an absolute pittance. If the expenditure on casters and a dull, sterile studio was worth it, it would be reflected in the viewing numbers, as it stands the viewing numbers are the same as we saw for zotac. It would be different if you were flying in casters with giant fanbases who can expand interest in the game, e.g. 2GD/Joe, but for anyone else this is a waste. This isn't a LAN event, where you do need casters on location for a complete experience. It's purely a display of extravagance for no reason other than they can.

However I'm not naive enough to believe they actually care about boosting QuakeLive's popularity. To me this simply seems like an exercise in establishing themselves, with a framework that can be used for other games. How can it be anything else? Am I honestly to believe that this level of expenditure will be maintained for our game which unfortunately fails to draw any significant level of interest. If I'm wrong, fantastic, if I'm right I will not be surprised or be like "I told you so", I'll simply be disappointed.

Maybe when they reveal more information things will become clearer, right now I just do not see how anyone, no matter how desperate they are for quake tournaments, can look at the information available and expect this to last. Meanwhile, yes in the short term we have an event each Sunday to watch, great, will it continue for years as zotac did? Let's see.

Those are some valid points.
Not sure how sustainable it is, but as long as it works and they promise the same approach towards quake in future, even when other games get added, I'm fine with it.

*crosses fingers*

Give ins some of your pluses, he has been begging for more and it'll take some pressure of your shoulders.

I'd rather just be put on probation and be done with it :D

what is wrong about that?
I would like to have a chat about it.

I don't assume that I can do every job better than the guy who's doing it now. However I do think it would be wise for people to consider my input and possibly discuss why certain things could (imo should) be done differently.

no they cannot comment it...

they did nothing to gather them[ and weird did a lot of harm to ql with his whine about netcode ], so i dont find them in a position to comment how this money is spend...


+ weird is a dumb mofo

Yeah you see, there's your problem, he actually can comment on it, unless someone would strangely choose to delete his post, which with no real 'hostile' language they have no reason to. You're just biased against him and probably feel he shouldn't express any opinion.

A lot of harm to QL because he talks about the netcode? Are you serious? LOL. If there is a problem with the netcode, that will surely do far more harm to QL than discussing whether or not there is a problem. Burying your head in the sand won't improve things.

But you see, ignoring problems makes them disappear forever!

he can express any opinion any time, goog lol is always nice :-)

so, you want to tell me we're all allowed to comment on eachother expenses? even tho we got no influence on gathering our funds?


thats pure cunt slash twat attitude


also: talking how much ql is shit because of netcode[and funneh part: its only weirds problem] made a lot of good things happen to ql :DDDD

i think that the problem is talking about a problem but telling it lke if it was all the way around... you just confuse the peoples, and thats what the weirdo does

I don't understand you.

i meant that he explains the netcode issues in a reversed way than the one they are, at least for the 99% of the community, such as "high pings being an advantage to low pings";

i do hope to have been more clear and to don't have killed too many grammar rules ;)

Ok sure, but if he thinks he's found a problem I think it's interesting to hear about it and find out if others experience the same thing.

I'm not reverting anything.
If you want to win matches turn on torrents and continue to play as if you're on awesome ping... perhaps only altering the use of weapons (aka more lg and less rl).

THAT can be considered cheating; also i don't think is that simple

let a friend of you play against you while he has torrents on and then come talk to me again.
(btw it would be most fun if he can set the torrent speeds such that his ping is not very affected but there are constant spikes of around 15-25ms (in height).)
There are many more ways though... but that is not even my problem with the netcode!! it is that the guy on a good connection is influenced (negatively) because his opponent has a crappy ping/connection.
I believe that if you have to change your game in order to win against someone who has a different ping than your previous opponent that the netcode is wrong.

whitout deliberate tricks to the netcode, having a worst (=higher) ping than your opponents is always a disadvantage

no shit... why do you think I dislike this netcode?
It's written so that it automatiicaly does all deliberate things to make it so that "all pings are fair" which basically means that if you have good ping you get punished for it.
There are other implementation possibilities that have similar effects but where the downsides are with the guy on the higher ping.

"no shit... why do you think I dislike this netcode?"

why do you think i think you dislike the netcode?
And i don't really know how it works, but i still know that in spite of the tries, guys with higher pings are still disadvantaged against guys with lowers ping (it probably will ever be); also notice that i'm not saying that i dislike that netcode; only, probably there could be better ones, but still that one is not that bad

Also: edited

wow a whole new level of ignorance.

..... said the weirdo that (barely) knows only the netcode of a 1999 video game

Says the guy with the best excuses to not buy a ql subscription, the irony.

you obviously dont know the word irony.

i didnt buy it, but i dont judge what ppl do with their own money... buy sub or not to buy sub, fuck this, your choice

just wanted to reply to him with " You should first use wikipedia for word irony if you didn't learn it in school" , but you was faster :)

rofl... as if I didn't try to persuade the dev team for more than 2 years before putting a write-up online?
I wanted them to fix it without it ever being publical knowledge.... I talked about it in closed beta already... back when I actually was one of the top players in europe (although many of the pro's were still only playing q3 therefor the competition was less but I ended top4 in pretty much every tournament I played in).

Even in my post about the netcode I didn't condemn any of the possible options I just explained what the differences are.

edit: I haven't heard about any decrease in activity in ql so dunno where you get your information from that my post would've hurt the ql scene.

wait, you were top4, just because noone did play QL?

great achievement champ... exactly why i love your posts so much... hahaha

well I was pretty good when they did join as well... as you might've seen my games vs stermy and spart1e were really close.

But I got pretty tired from the netcode pretty fast so I was usually not motivated for online tournaments and I wasn't invited to lans because of that. But I don't really wanna go into that with a troll so, you're out of luck there.

real pro attitude... its the netcode, not my skills

if you could manage to read you would notice that I wouldn't really practise because (imo) playing with this netcode is demotivating. And due to that I wouldn't win online tournaments.

edit: if I wanted to win tournaments in order to become pro I would've used torrents just like my opponents at the time did.

story of your life is fascinating, please tell me more broski

I learned how to read before I could write... It is something more people should do

nah, internet wouldnt be so fun then

true :/

Leave aynach out of this!

in other words, at the very beginning of quake live's history you managed to be top 4 (if this is even real), just because all the pros were still playing osp, then they started to get confidence with ql, you quickly went down in the ranking, and you used some netcode excuses to justify it and the fact that you didn't play so well on lan, when the netcode is the same for all;
This is how it seems just listening to what you say;

...in an other way of watching it, it could even be that you were so "strong", and only online, and only at the beginning, just because you have been a pioneer in the netcode tricking ( in which you are an expert, as you don't loose an occasion to point out ) ; then, all the players started to get aknowledged of it, and to use it, so your advantaged stopped to be, and even started to become dangerous and spottable, and this is why you just disappeared from "the top 4" and even "10";

but we could be wrong, of course; this are just two possible explainations to your behaviour, ( but more realistic than your "demotivations" ).

P.S. Also, edited.

nice joke... listening to what I say... You haven't read a single sentence correct if you can manage to blurt out so much crap in a single post.

Reread my posts like a million times and figure out how many ultra retarded things you add to my story to make it seem like I'm some kind of mentally disturbed noob who can't deal with people being better.

I won't even explain myself further to you... you'll just read it wrong anyway and make up some alternate universe where I'm telling the world how awesome I was and how horrible things happened.... rofl.

People REALLY need to learn how to read before they are taught how to write.

the last sentence was so deep

look at comment 193... it kinda has a better ring to it (and perhaps is more relevant) this time though ;)

it's just somewhat upsetting how people are twisting reality in order for them to maintain some image of me which is completely false (well mainly false I did whine about netcode a bit much... :D)

"like I'm some kind of mentally disturbed noob who can't deal with people being better."

Well, i wouldn't have said it so harsh, you probably aren't mentally disturbed, or at least not too much more than the average, but the fact alone that you claim so much to have been "top 4", and then, somehow the world changed but that didn't depend on you, shows how much biased are your opinions on yourself and the other pro players.

I don't say that the world changed.
What I said (back in 09) is that if the netcode didn't change that we would see online games becomming completely dominated by people who have crappy connections playing balls to the wall agression with LG and rail. (I said it a lot more detailed though arguing why and how etc..)

And beware... the online monsters (strenx / evil / pavel) either have/had packetloss or high ping and all they really do is lg like mad. (Pavel's game has progressed the most I feel in terms of becomming more dynamic). Notice btw that I don't say that they are bad... I'm just noticing their game-plan.

And why I got 'worse' is because
1) I didn't want to change my game because on lan the changes are not affected and I kinda figured that if I would "decrease my game in order to win online tournaments" that I'd "suck on lan".
2) Other people did change their game (and sometimes even connection) in order to do this.
3) Some people actually learned QL as their first game and since it's online only they assume that how they are playing QL is how it is meant to be. These players can be very good online btw.

"I didn't want to change my game because on lan the changes are not affected and I kinda figured that if I would "decrease my game in order to win online tournaments" that I'd "suck on lan"."

Here is the whole question: you never achieved something on lan, where all your "disadvantages" are supposed to disappear; your whine about you losing only because of the netcode shows that you just cannot accept to having never been a top 10 (or even worst) in ql; not that this is important: it's just a stupid game, to be good or bad in it doesn't makes a people better in the things that really matters in the real life and as a persona.
So you should just accept this, as many others peoples do, and stopping that dissociation from the reality.

Did you forget your medication again?

Dude there was like 2 years between me 'being good' and me playing my first QL lan because all tournaments were invite only and they only invited people who were 'famous from q3'.

And on that lan I barely lost to spart1e who is a stable contender at all lans he goes to (and has a ton more experience in playing lan games than me). Online I was as good as spart1e 2 - 3 years ago (see my game vs him for the clanbase blabla cup (forgotten which one) in the semi-final). From that point on people were getting more used to the netcode and I have slowly (or steeply.. whatever you wanna call it) dropped on online rankings. Then on lan 2 years later... I'm still just as good (aka barely losing to spart1e).

That you can't handle me being more skilled than you will ever be and therefor go whining to me and trying to talk me down etc. is not my problem. It's just a stupid game, accept this... and stop dissociation from reality.

"Did you forget your medication again?"
Watching your rage degree, that seems your case; also, "to barely lost" to a player doesn't mean to be at his level, at all, we all know that and the fact alone to point out "i barely lost to X once or twice ,so i must be at X level" clearly shows how much biased and unrealistic your own opinions on yourself are; a lot of peoples have won against Rapha, in some matches here and there, included your career stone, Spartie; does that makes Spartie even only "strong as" Rapha? No, of course; and all the crazy things you say about "gettin more or less used to the netcode" are really inconsistent excuses for not being at the level you would like to be.
And then, the last gem: the old, insane, illogical stetement that is around millennia earlier the quake release: "i'm stronger than you (in a x thing), so all that i say and do must be true and incontenstable" : that kind of things, just disqualifies your statements, and only shows how much painful is for you to not having been able to win anything on an irrelevant video game.

you didn't see my game vs spart1e...
I cba to prove to you that you are an idiot anymore... I'll ask you to just trust my judgement but I think that you won't listen :(

any plans on coming back? Without a great lan performance (aka winning matches) you'll be all jamerio about this and post the same things in 15 years.

I was in doubt to go to the dutch lan. I'm pretty sure that if I would have decent hardware to play on I would've went there... but seeing how that isn't the case I don't see it happening for other lans either.
At least not with the few QL lans that are around.

Also I'm not like jamerio because I actually went to a lan and performed pretty decent.
Jamerio says stuff that winning a random FFA within 5 minutes while fatality wins one in 5mins30 means that he is worlds best douchebag... while that title clearly still goes to fatal1ty.

It is just retarded that whenever I say something about the game people jump and point out how "I suck" while "They suck much more than me".
For instance nobody on this site has EVER given a good argument on why the ql netcode is better than I would propose (or even better than OSP) without me having replied on it in a sane way. And all the discussions are won by me and then are followed by: "But you just say this because you suck online... and you also suck on lan.".

I have np with my own results and I think I did quite ok (not best possible but not going down like the "weak player people here paint me off to be").

please tell us the name of the game... what tournament was it? Just for the lolz, of course, this doesn't change anything.... I cba to prove to you that you are an idiot anymore... I'll ask you to just trust my judgement but I think that you won't listen :(

would be nice if the vod would be in different qualities. :/

This. My netbook is too cheap to run fancy HD vods : (

Own3d only provides past videos in the quality they were originally recorded (in this case, 720p@60fps). You can always try to convert them to a smaller resolution (or less frames) using VLC or some other program.

which of course is not annoying at all. ;) would just be nice to switch between 30 and 60 fps so you do not have to convert it.

Thanks FACEIT. Keep the flame alive for years to come. Players, who're considering Quake a bit more than a simple hobby, are really appriciating your efforts.


glhf

faceit the shiny white knight rushing to save sweet little princess quake