Why u got drivers in the first place anyway?

To set the mouse to 1000Hz and 1800DPI.

And I'm thinking I might end up mapping the thumb bottons to some keys - for weapon switching etc.

maybe this would work for button mapping without the razer driver
http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm

Thanks!

You can set the hz and dpi and save it into the mouse and get rid of drivers

Are you sure of this?

I tried that. As soon as I uninstalled the drivers, all the profiles that I had set up in the mouse, reverted back to default[s]. :o

Jeez, doesn't the death adder have switches on the bottom of the mouse like the abyssus? I just put it on 450dpi and 1000hz and plugged it in.

I use 1800dpi on Mac OS though because whoever thought up the mac mouse system was completely insane.

It has such a button, but it doesn't change DPI, per se.

It changes the profiles, which you set up in the drivers. In the profile, you can set your DPI, of course.

But none of it works if the drivers are not present on the OS.

At least this is what happens here.

It will save only the dpi and polling rate on its default profile. You wont be able to change profiles or change the dpi.

For me, it does not save polling rate. It reverts back to 500Hz every time.

I'm not sure about DPI, as I use the standard 1800 setting. Would have to test that again.

use 500hz/1800dpi then, using razer drivers is a bad idea.

1) Don't use mouse drivers
2) keep it 6/11 - enchance pointer precision off no matter what
3) use cheesemousefix for XP
4) Use raw input wherever possible


Btw what game are we talking about ? What mousepad are you using ? still that teflon one from cs hyde ? Any hints of jitter observed yet ?

This.

eh, you used to be the uber mouse nerd, seems like you forgot a thing or two over time :p

a) don't use drivers

b) don't use the cpl mousefix, instead read this: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1846538

edit: c) as others pointed out: for xp, use either anir's accel fix or the cheesemousefix.

What chicken said plus you can also try the other mousefix (anir's or something, that .exe which turns off acceleration completely, I still have it if you need it).

this'll sound crazy and i'm probably mad but flipping my qck so it was the right way up (logo in bottom left) seemed to help somewhat with my da's tracking :D i applied all the firmware and whathaveye as well

Click on "On" button near text "Acceleration" in DA drivers.

When I go into the Razer driver, the acceleration is stated as "On"

Heres your problem, the software is unclear :

On = "On" Highlighted.

Off = "On" Not Highlighted.

Also, apply accel mouse fix, such as MarkC's.

Well, thats not exactly clever by Razer. Making the "on" button so ambivalent.

Anyway, it changed nothing for me. :(

Even when "On" is not highlighted, I still have this damn acceleration.

Where can I grab MarkC's accel fix, please?

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1846538

Didn't see you use XP, but there are links to the CPL fix and mousefix in the post.

1) Why not use mouse drivers? You'd think a simple thing like turn acc. on/off was something that Razer would be capable of doing in their drivers. :(
Are there more issues with the drivers that I don't know about? I'm using driver version v3.0.1 and firmware v2.44

2) Default setting. Got it.

3) Where can I get cheesemousefix ?

4) Yeah. Can use this for QL, but can only get DirectInput for UT, though. But that's pretty close to raw, afaik.

LOL, can your really still remember what mouse pad I'm using from 5 years back!? Or was that just a lucky guess?

And no, I have not tested it with the CS Hyde yet. This DA's buttons are too hard to press for ue with the CS Hyde + fUnc Liquid.

I'm going to try my luck with a cloth pad to begin with.

But I'll probably end up with my CS Hyde again, and trying to mod the microswitches of this DA to make them softer to press. :x

Mouse drivers can cause tons of problems, and might even add some delay (I heard that on ESR I believe).

1) Because mouse drivers normally works by intercepting all the data from your mouse, processing it and then forwarding it to your OS. MS drivers are fairly harmless, however Razer and Logitech drivers intercept the mouse data even before RAW-input. Extra processing takes CPU, resources and increases latency. IMO the DA felt laggy when using drivers with it.

Thanks.

Right... I'm about ready to cry now.

- Uninstalled Razer drivers.
- Applied Chesemousefix.
- "Enhance pointer precision" = off
- Windows mouse sens. @ 6/10
- Game using DirectInput.

I still have acceleration.
Wtf is this?!

Even with the old Razer mice I had years back, I had no problems disabling acceleration. I was on XP back then, and still am on XP today.

jesus fucking christ man

step1. install razer deathadder driver
step2. reset mouse pointer speed to 6/11 and disable enhanced pointer precision in mouse @ windows control panel
step3. play

if you still have "acceleration", you don't, it's in your head

You clearly have not read this thread through.

Sounds like the Roccat drivers I could never properly get rid of. Well, I could but it had fucked up something in the windows mouse drivers and I never found a fix.

I reinstalled XP recently (not just because of this but it was actually one of the reasons) but that's not quite a solution...

Conclusion : never install mouse drivers.

I'm going to install Win7 tomorrow.

Hope this will do the trick.

Win7 = markC fix , dont use chees fix and u can use difrent than 6/11

Set cl_Mouseaccel to 0 in your game :)

"Acceleration" you are talking about is a feature, you can disable it by upgrading your mouses firmware... just check razers site.

Update firmware maybe solve solve few things.

Updating to the newest FW was the very first thing I did.

lol u picked a DA???

I gave one to a friend for free and he returned it back to me. Useless mouse.

That's why cypher sucks having the same sensor in the Abyssus.

Nice logic LOL.

the mouse doesn't make the player

... and cypher is the worst choice for defending such an argument or any other alike. The guy can play with 80+ ping ffs. Even if we give him a ball mouse, a crap monitor and lagy internet connection, he will still play well. Give these to me or you and is a completely different story.

he is still right

DA's sensor is nice, its flaws are in the weight and shape..

Well, on paper, it looked like the best choice.

But it seems reality had something different in store for me. :/

don't worry, I bought it too. Tried it for a week, but it was a struggle. Then I gave it to a friend who was using a regular mouse, but he told me that he couldn’t stand mainly his shape and he gave it back to me.

The only thing I liked about it, was the left and right buttons, which seemed responsive.

hahahha nice :D u give him for free and he return heheh

kinda off topic, is there any way of turning off the lights on the da without installing drivers?

Take the thing apart and clip the power cable to the LEDs? :)

If I can't fix my acc. issues, I will take it apart, just to see what frankenmicing potential it might have.

Hi mr screwdriver phobia.

every time i've opened a mouse i've failed to put it back together again!:(

if u look closer that ON button for accel in razer drivers is highlited when on and faded when off

instal drivers again click it so its not highlited=> off

there should be no problem with it im sure its somehow your fault same as all the other geniuses before claiming their da dont work properly

dont need no reg fixes or other shit

i had da for a year WITH NO PROBLEMS while everyone here was flaming the mouse like hell


now im using abyssus for a week and it works like a charm even though most of kids here claim its bad

Of course I already tested that acc. On botton in the drivers to death.

That is not the problem, obviously.

Fuck Deathadder never liked shape! Tracking was only thing on my 3G DA but nothing else! AFAIK 3.5G has shit sensor and it jlitters so FUCK IT!

Yeah I bought the 3.5g a couple of weeks back. The sensor is terrible even updated to lastest firmware. Was still jittering slightly on my talent.

Got zowie ec1 now and love it to bits!

Try the previous firmware 2.41
They released a pair of bugged firmwares for the DA3G (1.37NDC & 1.38DC). With this firmwares u get unstable polling rates & a bad mouse tracking.
And u could say,: Hey, I got the DA3.5G....
Well, take a look at the changelog release:
*Razer DeathAdder 3500DPI Firmware Updater v2.44
Release Log:
- Firmware enhancement to improve response time when changing settings.

*Razer DeathAdder Firmware v1.37(NDC) & 1.38(DC)
Release Log:
- Firmware enhancement to improve response time when changing settings.

Same changelog :) Maybe same bug :/

death adder is a good mouse. i had two 1800s and now a 3.5g. i just set it to 1000hz/1800dpi and its completely fine. no jittering or what so ever, just as good as the old ones or even better. im hitting 35% average in ql with it, which i think is not too bad. could be more, but perhaps do some ppl just not have the ability to aim that good. dont always make hardware responsible for your failures.
btw. cypher uses a abyssus, which has built in exactly the same sensor as the da. and he is hitting, not complaining like some smartasses here who always try to make razer mice bad.

IF you're using windows XP SP3, use wcafix.instead of accelfix.
You won't have acceleration after that.
Accelfix apparently has a strange feel under SP3 despite it seeming to work.

Test the accel in windows by lowering the DPI

No acceleration in UT2004 or UT3 for me.

Please keep in mind that SOME Games force their own acceleration and there isn't anything you can do to stop it. Jupiter EX+ engine games have accuracy/squiggly line/massive acceleration problems at anything above 125hz (you basically can't move the mouse in a straight line without it noticably being deflected away); setting to 125hz solves MOST of the problems; this is a fault of the Korean programmers using ancient i/o for these games.

lol @ UT3

Thanks, man.

Going to give it a try.

I guess there's no problem with applying this after having applied other acc. fixes first?

Accelfix apparently has a strange feel under SP3 despite it seeming to work.

source? using the accelfix myself currently, would consider the wcafix if what you're saying is true

anir's accelfix does not work with sp3 and as he disappeared and deleted his posts at razerblueprints.net i'd use cheese's fix if i where you.

it works, you gotta disable WFP or apply it in safe mode

I did both

Works 100% for me without running in safe mode. (SP3 and perfect feeling)
Though I do have all the security stuff disabled (DEP, system files protection etc are all off).

why pay so much money for shit mouse if u can have wmo almost for free? i dont even...

Because I, personally, think the WMO is a shitty mouse. :p

BLASPHEMY