http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

who

what

He edited it!

beef is high in protein

no joke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

Errr Beef has more protein then turkey and chicken lol.

EDIT: or are you wanting beef with me?

horse meat? we meat again.

Q50 played for sitto versus deliberate murder EC right? If so, he he.

Ps. There's still 3 hackers still playing QL for TOP TDM teams LOL

Yeah but they're not doing it on official matches so it's perfectly fine and acceptable right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

Yes, he played on ping 80 vs Russians pinging 20 and didn't win, what a noob.

oh cmon not this bullshit again, avg pings were perfectly fair(and I'd rather be sitto with whole team having playable pings than 102 with 2 guys pinging 80 and 90)
and ofc let's forget about previous EC final between same teams which was played on UK server with 35:65 avg pings and Q50 getting raped harder than this time

cheater desperate for attention, nothing new here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

You might wanna embed it, that way I will at least see the video's title and thumbnail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

yawn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEg5jj21hd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

You clicked. I didn't.

Owned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

don't mad

:O

get a job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE9S3zQx_2k

Yes, we are. With you on the lead.

Proving once again that most cheaters on ESR are mentally unstable.

Be afraid of legal actions against you for that comment.

You joke, but his dad is an ACTUAL LAWYER.

nuke that shit.

You and Zhu would make a very cute couple.

Do you often have apocalyptic visions?

No, but I like to see nukes, uh ;)

I can comply)

YOU BETTER KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, BOY

Nuke this ->

fatwa on your ass now boy

Don't wanna, one of my housemates has relatives there.

Can nuke this though ->

TEAMWORK BRAW o/

\o HOLY FUCK I LOVE THIS JOB

speaking of which :ASDF (pm)

a cheating noname calls a british player who has been pwning since the 90's 'incredibly underrated', ok.

Ps. There's still 3 hackers still playing QL for TOP TDM teams LOL

sure :C

actually, there still are 3 or more cheaters in top teams. same goes for ctf. :)

if people know this for sure, why don't they do anything about it?

because it keeps them in a mental place where they can blame losses on cheats.

don't have definitive proof

and unless they do a sombra (aka. curb stomping himself) you will never have in regards to online cheating, but that's besides the point.

if you have proof, as definitive as it may or may not be, release it and let the scene take a look. otherwise i'm inclined to agree with sharpe :p

yeah but having the scene look at it will probably fail just as much as democracy usually does D:

how would that fail, the scene can not decide anything related to a ban. it would be more transparent and people could decide who they want/ not want to play, instead of it being just rumours from a few insiders.

because the scene can't judge who's cheating and who's not

except it does and without it sombra and zeroql would still be playing

ohwait

doesn't matter, i want to decide who i want to play against irregardless if their cheating can be definitely proven (which would result in their ban).

But you can. Seems too convenient, no?

the league admins keep the fakers and ex-cheaters at bay pretty successfully?

they can't, league admins don't have access to ips connecting to the server, which is only way to positively identify fakers and (ex)cheaters, also no anti cheat software.

to get caught by a demo proof you have to be a pretty dumb cheater, since nowadays the way those hacks aim is almost identical to how a human would. as far as wallhack goes, you'd also have to be very stupid to abuse wh obvious enough to get caught.

well, I for one have never been obsessed with cheaters, and it ain't in my right mind to get them banned since ctf is half dead as it is.

also, only way to catch them is if someone makes a shitty videos csiql style that mostly don't point out anything. not because of proof in the videos, but because of cheaters gettin scared shitless (zhu) and confessing everything in order to look good. :D

hi jaz,

i feel ya bro!

keep up the good work!

I don't understand why so many people, after getting shunned and relegated to leper tier of e-interactions in whatever little social bubble they chose to function, seemingly lose all restraint and just start behaving like 5 year olds. It's just so incredibly awkward to see.

Though, perhaps, they just stop caring about keeping up appearances and let their true colours show.

hurr derr u r trolle EKS DEE

I have a theory.

Don't know if you've noticed but since the end of 2012/ beginning of 2013, daddy and lithxv have basically been voicing their opinions in almost every ESR thread, and both have increased their post count considerably while attempting to participate in all topics QL-related, where as before this period they were barely active. During the same period zhu has more or less been starting to post journal entries on a regular basis. Now we have jaz who might be starting to do the same.

I'm under the impression that they were all expecting (or rather, hoping) that QL would finally die out around the end of 2012 for a variety of reasons. I'm guessing the main motive for their desire to see QL crash and burn is that, in their eyes, if the game you cheated at is dead, it doesn't matter any more (ET anyone?), but as long as that game is still alive and kicking with an active community, you are still going to be remembered as a retard and mocked extensively. Obviously, this is not in their interests, it hurts their feelings and brings them bad memories of childhood bullying and teenage rejection.

So basically, it seems that they have finally realized that QL is still going strong (I would even go as far as saying, it's GROWING!!1), and that we all still love the game that they ended up shitting on. This fact makes them very uncomfortable, unwanted and ignored, hence them attempting to seek attention by ragefully lashing out at the community with all these awkward "hehe i trole u" threads on ESR, and also "seemingly losing all restraint and just behaving like 5 year olds" as you pointed out.

Or maybe they're just profoundly insecure, childish, weak and mentally unstable by nature, thus explaining why they cheated in the first place (and why they are still virgins), and it's just a coincidence they have each been increasingly seeking attention during the same period.

I wonder what Occam would think.

I don't even know what to think about daddy because his persona is just bizarre. Keeps trying to be involved while knowing he's shunned by the community, sometimes even comes up with a helpful answer then the next time he's posting threads about his cheater elo.

Very very confusing.

I think he's in a perpetual cycle of being desperate for attention, fantasizing about being accepted back into the community (hence helpfulness), and then raging when he remembers it will never happen. Over and over.

That sounds like a logical explanation.

I wonder how many of them actually have a diagnosable mental disorder. By this about 26.2% of Americans and by this about 27% (38% when they added 14 new disorders and "children" and "elderly" age groups, couldn't find comparable study of Americans for now) of Europeans suffer under any kind of mental disorder, which makes it statistically very likely that we have our own share over here.

Edit:

Changed the second link to more specific stats.

STOP CHANGING YOUR LINKS I CAN'T NITPICK YOUR REASONING

Ha! :D
Anyways, the actual percentages do not matter as much as the statistical probability. Even if the chance is 1% we have 446 people online at the moment.

And to your original point - it does not matter if the disorder is long or short term, when the effects are the same. And if you were nitpicking about the comparability then I agree, those weren't best compared.

I kind of forgot, but is the same version of DSM applied to both sides of the Atlantic? I did my A-level in psychology way2long ago to remember, but I recall that the interpretation of mental disorders is a bit fucked up over there due to the private lobbying of doctors (physicians as well as psychotherapists) by pharmaceutical companies to push their shit, and I know quite a few North Americans, and it seems to be a common practice for them to dupe their doctors into prescribing mood-altering drugs for recreational purposes ( ironically fucking them up in the process)... PHARMACEUTICAL-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, BIATCH.

Although, running into someone with a genuine mental disorder is just as likely on ESReality, as it is on the train to work. And chances are, you wouldn't really know about it when you communicate with them: for example there's an ADD sufferer who is a productive administrator quake events who's doing an excellent job. Those ex-cheater guys are mostly just insecure bellends who "crossed the thresh-line into the obscene" and assume they are extremely witty and dangerous (as someone with prerequisites for cheating is very likely to suffer from delusions of grandeur as well), and they misinterpret any feedback for positive feedback, and for some reasons attribute it to the qualities they possess (they think they are cool and accepted, and even though it's not meant to be positive reinforcement, it ends up being just so).

So while you're attributing this to the downfall of Europe via mass psycosis of large portions of the population, I have to remind you that this is the decade of the attention-hungry manchildren, and that out of all the guys mentioned here (zhu, jaz, daddy), I bet none have anything that can be considered a serious mental disorder that would classify them as disabled and unable to work/study.

I saw an interesting documentary by Adam Curtis who covered the privately-backed interpretation of mental disorders in the US you are referring to... can't remember the name of it. Anyway, I'm sure Europe isn't that far behind in the PHARMACEUTICAL-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, BIATCH

Is so (well, at least, Europe was so 8 years ago when I studied Psychology, now fucking retards are everywhere thanks to gangam style, soulja boy, skrillex, big bang theory, insane clown posse and league of legends)

I was thinking about it in broader terms, this also occurs in people banned from forums and such, i've seen it time and again where someone comes back only to drop a giant turd and start rolling in it.

It's interesting because the other end of the scale also applies like you mentioned when suddenly the guy becomes super duper nice and acts like nothing ever happened. I find that even more awkward, to be honest. Wouldn't it be better to just acknowledge your status and move on? Otherwise it's like masochism, i mean just hanging out around a place where most people strongly dislike you, thinking that you're somehow ruining their day by being annoying or that if you just stay around long enough with a fake smile on your face everyone will get over it. I just don't get it.

In the context of Quake i've literally seen only one person that cheated, got caught, and then managed to just leave it behind (to the point of eventually gaining enough trust to become a team-mate of the person that caught him).

I don't know what it is about Quake, but it attracts an interesting lot.

I think we should request funding to carry out a complete investigation into the matter!

OH SHIT SON-

tl;dr: I think it would be much more simple and convenient for everybody (including themselves) if they would just go and die in a hole somewhere. : /

I would rather they all jump inside active volcano calderas... simply having them die in a hole would pose a threat to the environment.

Do you want biohazardous magma?

holy fuck I never thought about that D:

if they are all cheaters then it's more likely that a new cheat has been released and anticheat system doesn't work on it. That's what occam's Razor would think

dude wat

wat what?

wahat?

my twisted logic is accurate bro

drunk-posting on esreality on a tuesday evening. classy!

wow, this escalated quickly

peace out slingblade