1. depends on position really, UTG duh unless a monster

2. mostly just underwear and t-shirts

3. i folded in your mums fatflaps pre-banging

Pretty extensive list, thank you for sharing.

4bet UTG representing a monster !

NL all the way, after second bet it's usually all-in or nothink

you don't have to fold underwear.

Don't see the point, with the cost to todays utility bills and computer hardware it doesn't seem like its a good idea to ramp up your bills and risk pushing your hardware 24/7.

Just a give a few quid to charity and be done with it.

Or just stop being poor!

Well, when you have as much hardware as I do I suspect you wouldn't see the funny side of it.

If you don't have cheap hardware, and you know how to take care of it, you have nothing to worry about. Also, if you're not poor.

I do take care of my hardware. I don't push it when it doesn't need to be pushed.

Its natural for disease to exist anyway and It won't look like such a cure when a state pension has to exist for longer than a person has been born for and the health system is swamped with decrepid old people putting a massive burden on mainstream society.

your countries health system is a joke now, imagine it in 50 years time with billions more people and a longer life span.
All wanting money drugs and care for over 50% of their life.

I don't think its going to be a pretty sight.

Yeah, it's natural for disease to exist, and it's natural for us to advance to a point where we can eliminate it.

Fun fact - you can scale the use of your processor, ram, GPU, and hard drive. Now you don't have an excuse to be afraid of burning out your welfare PC!

I have 6 Quadcore pc's each running HD4850.
Your accuracy is always amusing.

And yes its natural to cure disease, but its pretty fucking stupid that millions of retards like you think the way to do it is a "lottery" approach.

hey guys, let's create a massive carbon footprint, and in the time, hope that we get lucky and our computer program finds the key to the universe.

Most of your dorks don't give a shit about the cause, you're doing it because you're geeks long before anything else.

So you make better use of your "carbon footprint" by playing games? Do you hear yourself?

So let me get this straight: you don't want to fight disease and give people longer lives with their family because it's not cost effective?

I mean do you have any human relationships at all?

He has a point, population on this earth + lifespan is getting out of control :(

agreed, we should spend more money on nice cars, spaceships and high buildings on man-made islands

500 hp cars + no safety belts + no speed limits should solve all our problems !

indeed, i read something from david attenborough last week and he was talking about population growth getting out of control. 2.5 million people in 1950, 7 million people today.

7 million people?

london city that is, Jamerio noticed the same

million - billion wats the diff!!

ONE MILLION DOLLARS *pinky-to-lips*

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Not really, there's solutions to these things, I'm not naive enough to think they'll be happening any time soon but it is possible for us to overcome issues like overpopulation (at least up 'til a point.) But for the time being I think it's better to promote better health longer (so people can still be useful as they're getting older) and maybe focus less on encouraging people to get married and have children which is the problem in the first place really isn't it?

rich people dun have kids, make everybody rich -> job done \o/

pretty much sums it

You can never cure disease, if you cure one, its very likely that will spawn something else of which might be a 1000 times worse.

You just need to be able to see past your nose.

Secondly, cost is pretty naive thing to say, granted you probably have no concept of what its like to live in the real world, but are you really that naive to think that cost isn't the number one issue of anything?

You're living in a world which has people sleeping on the streets in the most developed parts of the world. And one which is already refusing life saving drugs due to cost. This will only get worse as population increases to the point where one day you might have to pay 1000's a year just for basic drugs like Antibiotics, or you do you really think the GVT and pharmaceutical are going to save us for free?

That's the problem having a discussion with someone who knows how the world works vs someone who doesn't.

When you get smarter, you'll see what I do. Until then, conclude whatever you need to make yourself think otherwise.

I also think its pretty retarded using a lottery approach to unlocking the big mysteries in life. Its just a half assed pipe dream., you and all the dorks that sign up to the folding crap would do a much better job by donating the money you spend on additional electric to a good cause that actualyl does something useful, but if you and the drok patrol really belive leaving your computers on at full whack is going to change the world then be my guest.

Where did you get your degrees in biology and medicine?

He doesn't even have a degree on his own field.

"fictional literature"?

well played

I'm not for or against any of this shit, truthfully I'm not convinced what benefit it has. I was merely commenting on your retarded view on life. It's funny how you accuse me of not being able to see past the end of my nose and yet your entire view is based on the last 50 years (because it's not like we've advanced in every possible way or anything)

If it were up to people like you we'd still be throwing stones at our shadows.

the only thing i want is GTV for QL!!!

Jamerio-Scumbag of the Year Award

You're just a naive kid who doesn't get anything.

I donate money every year to charitiy, I somehow get the feeling that has done a 1000 times more good than you leaving your little walmart pc on and convincing yourself you're saving the world, when all you have really done is create a carbon footprint and wasted electricity to trick yourself into thinking you've actually done something of use, when all you really care about is the little score next to you name.

If there was no score most of the people like you would even consider doing it (its not directly aimed at you). http://fah-web.stanford.edu/daily_team_summary.txt

Ignorance is bliss.
http://woodsuppercut.ytmnd.com/

very insightful.

When it comes to possibly having to replace your hardware after a long time because you were running @home projects at full throttle, it's "NO THANKS", but when you give most of your money to a corporation with a small portion to the actual destination, it's "SIGN ME UP!"

Nope, nobody believes that you donate to charity, either.

You don't believe anything about anyone you don't want to hear.
You're what I like to call a nut job :)

I don't trust proven liars. The end.

How am i proven liar?

I haven't lied about anything and you have not disproved anything, you've just disagreed and come to your own little conclusion (with your child like mentality), of which you've spouted all over the internet, which will one day come back to haunt you :)

So now that I'm a proven liar, please provide your proof?

You're always making demadns for me to prove my lies, so let's see your actual proof?

Right here in a link, that I and everyone can see?
Not ill informed opinions, I mean real solid proof.

Let's see how well you hold up under your own logic.

No. Most certainly, and without question, proven.

Nobody believes you. Even you don't believe you.

I don't believe me?

That's all very good Vedic, but why don't you PROVE to EVERYONE under the common definition of proof that what you say is true?

If it is indeed true.

See now you've dug the hole a little deeper and actually risk telling the world you're so off it you actually have your own definition of the word proof.

What you really mena if you and a collective group of dorks all with varying degrees of personality disorders have formed a collective opinion. And deem that as proof.

But if I ask you one simple question, to prove what you say is true, you make excuses, excuses which you like to use against me to define me as a liar.

But when I do th same thing to you, you jump and avoid the question.

We've asked several times for the websites and more info about your multiple business and you never answered. Go check yourself in the nuthouse freak.

You're the one asking people to prove everything little thing they say about their lives by posting what many would deem as personal info and then swinging to extreme conclusions if they don't.

I just enjoy showing how broken you are.

Yet you're the one that voluntarily posted your Rare shit. Freak.

You're repeating what we have said to you on every single one of your claims so far! Despite how easy it would be to verify such claims, you have spent the better part of 2 years dodging.

I even offered to do the work for you, so long as you were willing to put up the cash for the trouble/punishment. Once again, no nuts.

We've already proven that your history claims don't match up with Jamie Williams. The burden of proof has always been yours, and you have failed on every occasion. Every one!

The saddest part is that you somehow think that the merits of these claims (if they were true) are worthy of envy, or change how wrong you are on every subject. You consider someone like Jamie Williams as a goal worth aspiring to, when his accomplishments equate to an average taxpayer. The fact that you idolize him so much just shows how low down on the pole you are.

reposting your deleted idiocy:

Ok, so you're admitting you don't actually have proof then?

All you have is a conclusion based on the fact that you asked me to post personal and identifiable information about me on the internet so a handful of fools can verify my claims?

Yeah that's clear proof that I'm lying, all around the world people should have to post personal and identifiable information for everything they say.

If they don't, vedic and the "opted out club" will therefore deem you as liars and they would have proven it too.

Thank you for clearing that up and putting in writing how flawed you are.

We've already proven that your history claims don't match up with Jamie Williams. The burden of proof has always been yours, and you have failed on every occasion. Every one!

The saddest part is that you somehow think that the merits of these claims (if they were true) are worthy of envy, or change how wrong you are on every subject. You consider someone like Jamie Williams as a goal worth aspiring to, when his accomplishments equate to an average taxpayer. The fact that you idolize him so much just shows how low down on the pole you are.

No need to change the topic.

I was simply asking you to define "your proof".
All I wanted to show was your warped logic.

By your definition (and others) if someone does not post personal//identifiable information about themselves at your requst its proof that they are a liar about things they have said that went on.

So for example, if I called you kiddie fiddler, you would be that unless you could prove otherwise.

If I said you were a virgin, you would be a virgin unless you proved otherwise. Afterall, that is the reasoning that you use against me so if its a valid and true then it must stand up across the board.

That's all for now :) (SAVE AS)

Do you really think anyone cares who you are - lame or not? We only pressed the matter because you did, and mostly because we would rather have a debate about the actual subject, instead of "NO UR WRONG, I WERKD @ RARE!" Nobody asked you for your personal information, but you feel that it has a place in every debate you take part in... ever.

You defend your claims like religion, and have about as much to offer in any productive discussion as Christianity does. Maybe a little less..

So just to conclude.

You say nobody cares, but you can't go a week without bringing it up first. (as you did in this thread yet again-by calling me a proven liar and referring to you know what)

You say you have proof, but when I highlighted the fact that you have nothing, ironically you then go back to my past career.
Not forgetting of course that your "lack of proof" is what you' based calling me a liar on.

Proving that you're the one who keeps recycling the old argument.

Proving that your idea of "proof" is simply your own grandeur that sadly has no bearing or place in the real world.
It works wonders with your little net friends all scattered around the world and bound by contempt though.

And the reason I don't see you as a peer is because you're not.
Its nothing personal. And I'm sure many other qualified people see me as the same and they would be right. Its just the way of the world. You're alwyas going to be bitter if you don't learn that.

funny how you're the only person that gets cattiwax on like that tho, you gotta figure somethings up...

He's the rare breed of ESR user who cares about his image on the internet. I generally like responding to big discussions (even regarding trolls), but his posts have become 99% filler, so I don't even need quote tags anymore. He's losing interest in the site, so it's all good.

I care about my image on the internet, yes Vedic that is why I write journals about getting caught short on the way to mcdonalds and having to take a dump in the bushes.

You see, EVERYTHING you say is shot down.

You say I'm losing interest in the site, yet my post count is still higher than yours.

Everything you say is shot down so easily. Its almost worrying.

How many posts you have made in the past has nothing to do with how many posts you are making. I don't even see how you can try to make the connection there. You're backing down from conversations with less and less of a fight, and you're posting less frequently overall.

Since you've been proven a liar, I can't blame you for wanting to bail on the site. Since you can't use your "IM JAMIE WILLIAMS" argument anymore, you have no way of participating in a discussion.

Again you're trying to change the topic.

You say I keep bringing it up, I show that in fact you do.
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1803048#pid1803048

Your answer to this is to trry and THEN talk about what I have done in the past. Rather than actually admit that it was in fact you that brought it up again, you would rather try and shift it over to something else.

its all there for people to see.

And now you're trying to imply I'm losing interest in the site, when I'm pretty sure my post count says otherwise. Again just another one of your bullshit tactics to try and scramble out of the hole you've dug. I don't run away from anything (neitehr do I have IM on), you just bore me to do death when there is nothing else to pick you up on (and that I'm never wrong mentality of you will make you the star of esr hall of fame, but for all the wrong reasons), secondly while my post count is high, I'm a lot busier with my work.

I don't even know what you're referring to about my name.

I just wanted to point out that part of your logic for calling me a liar was because I call myself James WIlliams, but the credits, for this imaginary person I am pretending to be is known as Jamie.
So I was just pointing out that many people who are called James, are also known as Jamie. Again, just another factual flaw in your flawed reasoning.

And just to finish you off because I think you're drowning here, you're talking about how I'm a proven liar, but I think I already made you look an idiot with this when I asked for your proof, of which you didn't show any, which I thought was interesting because it was that very same logic that you used to conclude I was lying. (that's how broken you are, not only do you redefine the definition of proof-you then go on apply it selectively so its a fact for you, but a myth for others. That's awesome)

Vedic, you're getting very desperate and running out of options here.

If you just admitted that you ....

A) Don't have proof (just a broken biased variation of it)
B) lied about me brining it up first in this thread.

You save yourself a lot of E-grief by tryin to hide the fact you're just bitter, jealous and ultimately unconvinced of your own claims.

But you have no choice but to follow them through now.

You insinuated that I only disagreed with you because I "don't want to hear" you. This lacked any substance, and was just a poor attempt at an insult. I corrected you, pointing out that you have a long proven history of being a pathological liar. You wanted to make this a debate about when you did or did not lie, but it's not a debate.

Though, you've proven once again that you only care about your internet image:

its all there for people to see.

See, you're doing this because you feel like you need to prove yourself to the users of ESR. These same people that you condescend to, you seek acceptance from. You've worked so hard to make all of this up, but you should know by now that there isn't a single ESR user left who believes you on anything you say.

Unfortunately for you, there isn't even a way for you to redeem yourself. Even if you admitted to everything, people still hate you just because you're a huge fag.

It's you who can't go a week without bringing it up, but I told you I wouldn't let you run around making that shit up anymore since you bailed on the challenge that would have proven it either way.

I don't need a new argument, since this isn't a debate. Your information is provably incorrect when compared to Jamie Williams. You keep recycling your lies, and I'll keep pointing them out. Don't like it? Do something about it.

Or, just run away from everything ever - that seems to work so well for you.

It's you who can't go a week without bringing it up

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1803048#pid1803048

Amazing, I mentioned nothing of the sort, yet this thread quite clearly shows you keep regressing back to the past.

But you still have no concept of what is actually being said.

Even more Amazingly, you keep going on about the discrepency in my name James Williams, but don't get where the Jamie comes from. Oh looky here.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie

"Jamie, Jaime, Jaimee, Jamee, or Jaymee is a name derived as a pet form of James. However, it has been used as an independent given name in English speaking countries for several generations."

Why would I want to put you out of your misery?
Its more feeding you rope for now.

Just a recap....

You say you have proof, yet when I ask you for proof you show none and ironically show the same lack of proof that you used to class me as a liar.

You say you didn't bring it up, but I have quite clearly proved that you have yet again.http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1803048#pid1803048 even the guy above is noticing your little obsession.

Then again, you've invested so much bad judgment in this little obsession of yours you have to see it through :)

If you want to review the proof, go back to the previous threads.

Here's a few bullet points:

1) You claim to have made hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, despite Jamie Williams NEVER holding a position that could remotely make that much. The best he did was probably a little under $30,000/year.

2) You have claimed credit for development on both Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, despite Jamie Williams being attributed to beta testing and costume design in these games.

3) You have claimed that you did not own a PC until 2004, despite Jamie Williams being credited to work on games a decade earlier.

4) You claimed that you got a job offer from Crytek, but were unable to provide the documentation when asked for it.

5) You said that you got a job offer in America, but you turned it down because you couldn't get a visa, and the company wasn't willing to pay for one. No ability to verify these claims on request.

6) According to your timeline of "playing fighting games with sponsorship", you were 7 years old when Jamie Williams started in the industry.

7) You claim to be good at Quake, but have since played public games and been sodomized. Recently bailed on a game vs drex, despite drex being very unsure of his abilities. This means that you are afraid of someone who is sub-par at CPM.

8) You claim to be good at fighting games, but bailed on a challenge that I offered. This also calls into question your claims of ever playing fighting games seriously.

9) I offered to verify this information for you, so long as you were willing to put up the money for the trouble, and so you were properly punished for your actions - you declined. You were fine with it when you only had your persona on the line, but you couldn't bring yourself to put up the paltry sum of $1,000 as ante.

10) For someone who claims to have a lot of money, you're afraid of burning out your hardware (despite the software being able to scale your resource use) on distributed computing programs.

11) You claimed that you were going pro in Q4, and never accomplished a single thing.

12) etc...

The fact is, I don't even NEED to prove these things wrong, since it was you who made the claims. This is essentially akin to the science that is done to answer the questions that religion refuses to. Even in the face of the truth, you attempt to derail the conversation. The hypocrisy of calling for proof for claims that you have made is truly astounding. This shows an impressive lack of intelligence, or an impressive abundance of mental defects. These are not mutually exclusive, however, so feel free to take credit for both.

You've been online since I replied to you, so you've obviously seen the reply. You've been frantically replying to every post, but now you have nothing to say?

Go on, run your mouth again. Dig your hole deeper.

how do i do it? my PC is on 24/7 anyway. just download and run?

Yes. What GPU/CPU you have?

Edit: accidental plus, enjoy! :)

E6550 / 8800GT

Cool, that's very good combo.

So just download client from here:

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

install it, specify team 176244 (ESReality :) in options and you are all set.

Also you may want to specify your user name with passkey, but passkey is optional.

this thread makes the same amount of no sense as yesterday when i was piss drunk

fish ITT!

http://tommyangelo.com/articles/folding.htm
also Comment #14

I leave my ps3s running it when they're not doing anything else.

What team you are in?

HardOcp's

:)

someday I'll learn too

obviously asians taking that shit to the next level :D

awesome technique though

LHC > folding

LHC is overrated

More important than folding! Been a few months since it's had any work, though.

Know thyself.

Fapping at home, is anybody doing it here?

24/7, m8

Isn't it putting too much strain on your hardware?

I'm sure his Cuda Device has body simulation.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/systm-insane-origami-a...03761.html