mkay..

Meh.

okey

the lg seems to be full of users.

ohhh....

thx, needed it :)

my gawd,did i just wrote "okey"?O_O
sorry for that,let me change it...
okey
okai
^____________^

you're the Bo5s, chief!

omg thx.
I have always used sg to shoot ppl far away.
and rail in close combat.
thx stermy you saved my life.

so you are saying when you saw the word "noob" you still thought this was directed at you?

"The Weapons of a Master"
must be for me.

haHAHAHAHA :D

He forgot to mention the following ::

" The reason why I never truly achieved top success in Quake is also because I like to hide on corners and rail. That is pretty much all I do in fact. I have lost control of so many fights because I base all my game around rail, it's amazing. "

/troll


Jokes aside, in Q4 that's all he could do. Corner zoom rails + run away. zzzzzzzz

I never saw him play Qlive but something tells me thats how he does it too.

Thats weird Freelance, I swear Stermy got 3rd in the 05 CPL WT FInals. I don't recal him being a master of the stake gun. I'm PRETTY sure the game was based on movement and timing and fighting ability. But who knows, I could be wrong.

/troll of trolls

3rd out of 17? no idea why no one bothered to play it. must have been this awesome weapon you had at spawn or incredible telefrags. for some unkown reason gameplay seems to matter

ps: matches on q3tourney2 used to be more interesting

Yes and if you read properly,

I mentionned Quake and not PK :)

Honestly I just hate his style. He makes an action game like Quake become stale as fuck by hiding in corners and peek railing. In early Q4 especially.

I understand you are on a holy quest to prevent us from being open critics against your horses in AGP but I remain confident that having an open opinion is not a bad thing :)

For the record, he's a great player, but I honestly believe his rail heavy style is what prevents him from beating others in his class.

/trizolls

He's on a crusade to stop us being critics of anything.

You guys don't understand the line or ego and opinion and how they intermix. I'm on no crusade about anything regarding any of you or AGP. You live your lives with your identity of opinions, not me and thats fine. I can comment like you comment and you can take it because it is typically questioning why you comment in the first place. You won't like it but I'm sure most don't like any of the constant criticism alot of you guys give. And I won't stop. It's more a people study anyways. I ask questions to those that constantly complain. I used to complain about everything. I didn't like how that felt and chose another path eventually. But that's me. I don't need to feel better anymore by claiming a side about anything and stating it as a part of me.

Good job Stermy for doing something for new players. At least some do what they see is positive and helpful for others. And people wonder why the world is the way it is today lol.

Yeah, the world is like it is, because people complain too much on ESR.

The world is like it is because people have these mind sets to begin with. It's not the complaining, it's the unconscious mental patterns of instant negativity and identification with anything. Alot of the trolls here are identified with their opinions when they are simply nothing more than reactionary patterns. It's cute, really, but it has no point besides personal suffering and attempt to spread it. Maybe ask yourself what benefit any of you are to anyone else in this world in any aspect by being this way.

But hey, you all can of course do whatever you'd like. I find it pretty funny overall. Believe it or not, I have no problem with any of this and take nothing personal nor mean any of it as such. I'm sure I like to comment as much as the next.

Sooo, you're saying by calling stermy a rail-whore, i really want to spread my personal suffering?

It's not suffering in an epic sense. Here I'll attempt to explain unconscious behavior in a few lines. Understand this is all of course ok as well and if you guys don't flame me back I'll be very disappointed:

Making such a statement on Stermy being a rail whore has no purpose. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be said, just has no purpose. It has as much purpose as you "thinking it" to yourself. The point of you writing such a thing for everyone to read is to claim a side, or that you have identification with this 'side' of things, or this view. If I told you that you were wrong, you might find the need to repel back in argument, defending this identification. And that is because at a root, you feel it is a part of you. So, it isn't that you are wanting to spread your own personal suffering, it is you trying to deep down claim your identification as being alive and real. It is unconscious so it isn't really personal or related to anything, it is based on bias and past experience and views only. It has no truth to it, and nothing of the sort can as well.

That is why the world is all based on separation and all that comes with it. Instead of course, things are seen how they really are, which is not in separation or all that is related to it: capitalism, nationalism, race, religion, etc etc. This is the cause of all suffering, physical and mental. WINK

Doesn't mean it shouldn't be said, just has no purpose.

Except it's the truth?

Did you just sleep through psychology 101?

I HAVE BEEN ENLIGHTENED!! :D

Discussing anything has no purpose.

Streetbhudda :)


I think you are also missing the point. Most of our flames are carefully disguised constructive crtiticism. At least for me, when I openly shit on something, even if I don't always word it so, it usually is meant to be perceived as a request for change. Just like you do....

I strongly doubt human society could go forward if we were truly all filled with love, compassion and understanding for each other. It would give such a fucking edge to the haters lol... ( have you never seen demolition man ).

I say we keep our natural hatred devoid of all inhibition.

HATE ON ESR'ERS, HATE ON

Well, you guys are missing one thing: this is fun. I can't bitch about your bitching if it's not ultimately fun. I mean no harm in it. I don't think I am right and anyone is wrong. I just bitch back to devils advocate if anything. If I was really caring on this, I would suggest to everyone that they learn how to not take things personal, especially on internet sites. But I don't now do I? ;)

I read you,

my best moment of the day is coming up with your new nick lol.
Streetbhudda sounds fitting.

Ill make sure to bring you a small Bhudda statuette if AGP ever stops in Canada.

And to be fair, it's way funner to read hatred filled posts rather than reading a million ass licking ones.
I think ESR would die if everyone was all hippie.

If human society was like that, what would be the need to move forward?

You think this is moving forward? Wars everywhere, still, nuke possibility, and fighting over land, and hate everywhere. I doubt it's changed. Oh yeah, and countries trying to capitalistically rule other nations and hurting cuz of it. ;)

But some have peace. ME BABY

You also seem to be unable to read, good job.

You do realize that you're complaining about complaining?

Your pretentious pseudo-intellectual babble is horrible to read.

Despite claiming you no longer need to complain to feel better about yourself (With the implication that people who complain, do) this is exactly what you do albeit with a supposed moral high ground.

Your social study is merely complaints about complaints masked as questions. Since you've already come to the conclusion that people complain in order to feel better about themselves (like you "used" to) you have nothing to gain from asking these questions.

You also seem to combine, or are simply confused with, complaints and criticism since you often seem to treat the two as the same thing. Either way, both are perfectly acceptable things to express on a forum.

"You also seem to combine, or are simply confused with, complaints and criticism since you often seem to treat the two as the same thing."

I have a feeling that's not the only thing he's confused about (hello tennis).

Are you like this in person with people? You're a funny. So personal...

you're stupid.
you're unable to look behind sarcasm, to see the actual criticism and due to that, you put yourself in a higher position than everyone else, because YOU think that this shouldn't be criticised.

btt:

if cooller would release an "article" like that, it would simply be this in better english.

btw: my actual point is, that this "newbie-guide"-"article" is not better than the weapon-guide you get, when you buy the game.

Criticism of a post and personal attacking are quite diff. Stick to the subject and see how much anyone will really flame.

See, in real life, criticism is allowed usually and is everywhere. When people personally attack verbally live, they get different results. People don't really act like this in person. When they do, no one likes them. They are typically called assholes.

But it's fun!

People don't really act like this in person.

You don't, but that doesn't have anything to do with anyone else.

That's a pointless question. An internet forum is a totally different form of communication to a live conversation, a phone call or a letter and they aren't really directly comparable.

I don't mind telling people what I think of their opinions or even them in theory but it totally depends on the situation at hand.

<3

God can you FOR ONE SECOND TAKE THAT FUCKING COCK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

Pls.

"I didn't like how that felt and chose another path eventually"
ok, Streetrunner xD

still was top 3 in quake 4 for a good one year just by doing that. Yes I personally hate that style but you gotta give credit to someone who can effectively use a weapon to perfection.

you should really see some qlive demos- combine almost perfect weapon choice with great aiming and movement and u have a winner
(imo, stermy improved a lot over time :)

He's definately up there, no doubt about it.
The stats speak for themselves, however it goes both ways.

I doubt he can land 70% rail vs established players to be honest.
This may pose a problem when it's time to compete.

Time will tell. Until then, we are having fun !

I agree.
Back in old days, the most beautiful demos I ever seen were lakerman demos. He usually did not do any fancy movements, but on the basics any1 knew about, he was better. Theoretically speaking, everybody knows proper weapon choice, yet u see a lot of mistakes of weapon choice even at higher leveles, not happening once in a century, but a lot. Stermy is right now very good in this basic cvasiknowned issue, weapon choice (fooki is going great too on the issue, yet because his temper his aim is a bit lower -but he compensate iwith strategy -way too offtopic)
After seeying hundreds or thousands of demos, like many around here, I am not that easy to impress anymore (talking from spectator point of view, of course). Yet I find qlive stermy demos pretty entertaining. The very basics are done very well, better than most elite players. A must see.

Good arguments,

just curious btw, how come your english writing deteroriates randomly through your comment then suddenly jumps back to normal?

multiple causes:
-when I post in a hurry I'm more messy than usual, this is not my first language so I don't care too much abt :), the most important thing is what u wanna say, not how you say it, unless you are involved in some literature activity (women beg to differ here, though)
-if I don't post for a few days in english I go out of practice already, on the other hand if I'd live in USA for let's say six months I'd speak english close to perfection, because I have the good and bad capacity I learn 10x faster than usual people and I also forget 10x faster without repetition
-my natural language is pretty different, and bad english is the direct result of me skilled on the other one -practically I fucked up really good some writers/poets on their blogs, I'm good at it, lol
-sometimes I think in english, which temporarily improves my language. if I think what i wanna say in romanian, then have to translate, the result is a mess, most of the time it's a combination which leads to undesired results
well, too much talk...

so there are not more people on same account, just me, if this is what u wanna say, I hope the answers did satisfy ur curiosity a lil

What an useless article.

I have been playing Quake and in particular Quake Live for about six months.. and all that he told in that article was clear as water for me..

I mean this guy is a pro, he should be capable of giving more professional tips to master weapons

hit 70 pct rail and you'll win.
something like that?

no.... hit 80% and you'll win.

Makes me think of something Lexer reportedly said in the pk days : "if I can hit 100% stake, who need brain?"

"If you have aim, who needs brains? If I could hit 100% stake I wouldn't move."

"I am nobody without the railgun"

1) He's probably not capable of putting into words exactly what he does in game that makes him so good.
2) Even if he could, there is no advantage for him specifically to do so in an environment where nobody else is.

"useful instructional guides for QuakeLive noobs."

do you hit 70-80% rail?

gj stermy. Fuck you esreality for being unable to see the bigger picture.
Retards.

idd, all progamers here

I agree, it might be a great help for beginners!

Doesn't really sound like he's addressing the beginner when he says "most of the people can hit at least over 40% right now"; that'd be pretty offputting out of context. He also talks about it being "easier to hit with". Than what?! Quake 3 we assume, again not very obvious/relevant to the beginner. So I don't know who is guilty of not seeing the bigger picture here. Yeah he is promoting QL and all, but his description seems pretty useless to me, whoever it's aimed at.

cry mooore ma girl cryyy MOAAAAR :D

1670 x 2179, Big Ben!
Is this picture big enough? :(

Gotta agree with Sander here.

Stermy, one of the few players releasing configs, demos and guides. WTF is the problem here?

Props to him.

Yes, self-promotion.

so self promotion is regarded as negative now?


next up: "Good test results - Don't do it" and "Deny every well-paid job - be aware of your neighbor's jealousy"
and my personal favorite "Donations - How dare you to show everyone how rich you are?"

I suppose your parents didn't teach you about modesty...

They tried, but I really like to show my dick in public.

seriously though, there is a difference between simply showing off on the on side. And doing something helpful for others or good for your own career, while risking that others notice.

- You shouldn't brag with test results to random people, but you shouldn't have to try to hide them either. And you should show them in the proper places, e.g. professional web profile.
- You shouldn't go tell everyone who didn't ask what your job is and how much you make, but you shouldn't put all your money in a bank becauses neighbors might be jealous either.
- You shouldn't make a press release saying how great you are when giving donations, but you should give if you can.
- As in this case, you should make a huge news that you have the bestest tutorials (if you wann call em that) because you own everyone. But you should make them if you want to and make people aware of them, or else they are pointless.

Sure those tutorials, also serve the purpose to promote Stermy and make him more attractive to sponsors. But I have to ask, who suffers from this, except maybe other pros looking for sponsors who don't put up tutorials and demos?

Modesty to a certain degree is very justified, but at some point it just becomes an excuse that some people use to cover their envy.

There are NO quake tournaments - so what does sponsorship matter? The fantasy is over, so everyone can stop acting like pro gaming in quake was ever viable.

Self-promotion just makes you look like more of an ass, especially when you don't even have the record to back it up. Do you really think this guide is any sort of good effort towards anything but "HEY GUYS, DID YOU KNOW I HAVE A SITE? GIVE ME A REASON TO KEEP PAYING FOR THE HOST!"

Never said it was negative, nor implied.

whoops, sorry, should have replied to walter.

it wasn't too good in my opinion.

kthx.

bestest explanation evah and forevah for generations to come, hof material.

[+]-wave incoming.

$$$

Kill him till he is dead :o))) haha

one of the hardest endbosses.

respect to teh cyberdemon!

I say click
you say splat

click

splat

Far better.

Now all of us can be like stermy, thanks for sharing the secrets, simpleton.

I'd say that this is worse than the other guide, but this isn't really a guide. It's more like a small advertisement for each weapon with no substance at all.

It will be useful for ::

- People who never played a fps ever in their entire life
- People who have an IQ similar to their shoesize
- Female gamers who just found out there is something else to play besides The Sims


Honestly, anybody who played even just a single player FPS will figure out that using SG from 100 feet is not all that smart. With the amount of ressources this kid has, i'm far from impressed. He could be doing real videos explaining movement, weapon choices in fights, all from his own footage.

Seems to me he's putting these guides up to make himself shine more than to help the random newcomer. Business first.

IM A HATER, are you ?

IM A HATER, are you ?

bros before pros

don't you think first and the last points are the same?

To some extent, all 3 points are the same.
I just felt like bashing on women, The sims, and shoes.

Protip :: You can't win tournaments if you are too busy making sure your hairstyle is fashion.

Fifa instead of Quake....made me lol hard.

yeah fuck that stermy faggot for being good looking. he should adopt the pro gamer standard and be ugly like vo0 / fatality / griffin / every other disgusting nerd that has a name in esports

You forgot this ugly gay ass called vorpal

not ugly and dont have a name in esports, pretty sure i didnt forget anything! plus, i said every other disgusting nerd in esports even if i were applicable. nice try, faggot

RESPECT THE FAGGOT!

+ for griffin diss

- People who never played a fps ever in their entire life
- People who have an IQ similar to their shoesize
- Female gamers...

Funny guy!

seriously, why do you envy his aim?

Well this is not really an article. This is more something he writes for the kids lurking his page because he's pro. And it's perfectly fine, because in the end it promotes himself and the game, and no harm can come.

What is not fine is major such news. Not here. Stop feeding the angry esr monkey plz...

.

i think everybody gets that, Mr. Outlaw.
(except Streetrunner)

Stay tuned for his next guide. ( advanced features )

Here's a snippet ::

"You have to walk over weapons/health/powerups in order to pick them up"
"Jumping is useful when you are stuck in lava"
"The game is played better using a mouse AND a keyboard"

Where do I subscribe !

Your parents help you hook it up!

(the legend of zelda sold separatly)

Wrong.

A thing can be both. We need not choose one over the other.

Correct, it's both.

I didn't mean to imply the primary motive for stermy writing the weapons article was to promote himself. I do not know his mind. That's what is ultimately happening though.

It's the concept of a help-a-newbie article being posted on stermy's personal web-page. How many people who have never played quake visit a particular Quake pro's web page for tips?

It's not like we have the article posted on the planetquake site or something, and it happens to be written by a well-known player.

"How many people who have never played quake visit a particular Quake pro's web page for tips?"

Good question. I think in America it would be far less than Europe, but that is purely speculation on my part.

Nice write-up, this'll help some people for sure.

I disagree on rail tho, hate rail:DD

nub.

bleh bleh bleh

Protip 1:
Just use RL, RG and LG, hit on average 40%, 55% and 70% each and you will be fine!

Stermystats:
Gauntlet N/A 0%
Machinegun 42% 4%
Shotgun 83% 5%
Grenade Launcher 6% 0%
Rocket Launcher 40% 24%
Lightning Gun 53% 29%
Railgun 69% 35%
Plasma Gun 17% 2%
BFG 60% 0%
Chaingun 32% 0%
Nailgun 0% 0%
Proximity Mine 16% 0%

Stermy seems to use Nailgun a lot, because he has 0% accuracy and 0% use. BUT USE ITS ABILITY OF BOUNCING OF WALLS! AIGHT!

I took this screenshot few days ago :

http://nantaises.free.fr/stermy_world_champ.jpg

Yeah world champ, he is scary.
;-)

Flame this...

What's retarded is that he's stated that he's not interested in Online tourneys (I think in response to an invite by CAREEM^) and only LAN tourneys, but you CAN'T LAN QUAKELIVE.

:(

Stermy brings some painful ownage in QuakeLive. Hate to see it go to waste. At least he keeps me entertained with the demos.

Nice article ! It will help somebody ;)

I stopped reading right after "Ohhh I love you rail! For me this hitscan weapon is one of the most skilled weapons to use in the game."

And for those of you who think this kind of advice could be useful to newbies, here's a hint : newbies do not necessarily have an average IQ of 60.
I'm pretty sure most of them can take useful advice, even if it implies some sort of complexity. If not, why would they be playing Quake ?

seriously, why do you envy his aim?

what's the big deal about his aim stats?

if an average player can hit 40% LG I expect a player of stermy's calibre to do a lot more

infact he's doing 55%

Actually I found this guide good, even that its basic stuff, its good to know what a "pro" thinks, even if its pretty collective information.

the guide is for beginners.

ok now i found out quakelive has custom huds :D
is this the start for something like in cpma? oh god no.
hilarious settings like color/weather/temparature/style for every shitty detail in the game.

we need more HUDs HUDs HUDs xDDDD

http://qlhud.core.ws/

"When you want to insert a nail into a piece of wood...you don't do anything fancy or glamorous. Just take the damn hammer and hit the son of a bitch till it's in."

oh god, i just spermed my pants

Spermy'd*

Fixed.

The criticism is coming from two different perspectives. These are the content itself and the reason for doing it.

Personally, I'm okay with being critical of content. But I would rather not speculate as to why an individual was motivated to write commentary about weapons in a Quake game, not to mention having a dedicated website with configs, demos etc.


Stermy has his own website and is sharing material. I'll watch his demos; I'll even peak at his config. Me, I like it. I get to check out a good player in action, maybe get a few config ideas and read about his perspectives (in this case biases) for certain weapons. I'm down for that.

Some view this as a self congratulatory move on his part, but maybe he actually wanted to say a few things about Quake Live. Maybe he's excited, and this is his way of sharing? Who's to say, and who's to know?

In the end I find criticism of content to be a much smarter road, than to start questioning character and the alleged motives of an individual you don't know.

toooooo long commect arrgh

muahaha.... a weapon with that you dont even have to aim (cause you wait until your enemy runs into your crosshair and click) should be the most skilled one?? he should say its the weapon he likes most, nothing else... in fact its the most noobish weapon in gaming history, like UTs redeemer :D

hmm, one hand, this is self promotion from captain obvious. but on the other hand this doesnt hurt anyone and might be interesting for some noobs

if actually wants to talk about weapons he should do some in depth (2-3 pages) articles about each weapon. similar to what was on ggl and sk for q4

i think chaoticz also had a nice rocketlauncher tactics write-up on ggl a while back