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1. qlranks implementation

I get some criticism, agree with some and have some of my own... but THIS? Come on. Not that QLRanks isn't cool, but they would need to be crazy to bundle officially some third party thing they have no control whatsoever on.

A better criticism would be that they don't display their skill estimations like QLRanks does. I really wish they would do that.

>>> they would need to be crazy to bundle officially some third party thing they have no control whatsoever on.

Yes. QLRanks is great and all, but there is ZERO accountability. Sirax doesn't like you? He can do whatever he likes with your rating and what can you do about it? Nothing.

they would need to be crazy to bundle officially some third party thing they have no control whatsoever on

But they did — Awesomium.

It's true that if whoever is responsible for Awesomium went bankrupt, there would be no more updates to the product and no more support to QL's devs. It woudl probably have consequences on QL's development. Even then, id might have some legal response possible... but I don't know the exact content of their commercial deal. It's true that making business with third parties always carry some risk. However, the risk in this case is much more limited with Awesomium than it would be with QLRanks.

The three main differences would probably be :
Awesomium is legally bound with id software. QLRanks wouldn't be.
Awesomium's servers can go down without affecting QL. QLRanks' servers going down would affect QL.
Awesomium cannot mess with the content displayed on QL. QLRanks could change their own data and what it returns at will.

I don't know if I would have went with Awesomium if I had been in id's shoes but I surely wouldn't have decided to become dependant on QLRanks.

dayz... consistent improvement... rotfl

dayz still looks like a mod, its easy to improve a mod.
development of dayz is shit, even with cash. bad example.

the problem is that almost nobody is working for QL...


- add automatic matchmaking

Dayz, number of cheaters using simple scripts from a youtube tutorial increases in thousands Every day. No working anti-cheat after 1.5 years , and god known how long. arma 2 has been without it.

I stopped reading at DayZ.

i don't play it and never have. just some example.

Quake 3 OSP is amazing, and the competitive mod (I believe you are referring to as CPMA) is still active, don't know the population as I'm an OSP player and not a CPMA.

But there is still a few tournaments by neverGreen and a few others for CPMA.

There is also lots of suggestions for the standalone as id software shoulda treated it as a new start but I guess QL 2.0 is where the actual beginning is.

Go read uaLaskij's suggestions for standalone, they're actually pretty good suggestions. (Find them in the other thread)

What kind of features do you mean? Do you want new guns? New game mechanics? If you mean those, I don't think the majority of community wants them. We get new maps every now and then and we did get chain jumping, pql and a whole lot of stuff I don't remember. It's pretty good for a game as small and probably low-profit as QL.

i mean that too many times an update for QL means loss of convenience

VEHICLES!!!

Pretty much nothing good has been brought to the genre (or even the medium, if you're very cynical) in, let's say, the last decade.

QL in terms of gameplay is solid and even though standalone has only made things worse in every aspect, id has (apparently on purpose) made it possible for the community to fix the issues (with the exception of linux/mac support). That's more than you can hope for these days.

Custom maps and extensive modding possibilities would make it a complete Quake package. But that does apparently not work with the business model.

Who cares about matchmaking... Duel enough for a few months and you'll recognize every player on each server and know exactly how good they area. Be your own matchmaker. Isn't this obvious?

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CS:GO is where it's at right now boyz

I'm comming from CoD/CS and for me they are boring compared to Quake. Even ET is more exiting.

Ofc CSGO is way better by support, features etc.

Quake has great potencial, but its wasted by id/zenimax etc.

imo Extraction could be a LoL of fps games (but skilled one) but probably not gonna happen because Spash Damage is fail company and probably they don't have cash.