Your turnbet is way too small o_O

yea i know, i was abit over excited, and didnt want to lose my customer!

he actually had 8c6c too!

I can imagine; I've played since 2005 and never in my life hit a royal flush. And I play for a living. o_O

So sick that he didn't raise turn, haha, wow. Just wow.

I once lost with a straight flush against a fucker who had the Ace instead of my nine :[

asshole even checkraised me...

finally journals are working, now people can critic my poker!

they are indeed

nice good :D

i would have gone check @turn and all in @the river. He would have think u were bluffing and won alot

the river bought a 4th club, making any queen or jack of clubs better than his hand. so im not sure he;d of called, plus i wasnt sure what to do with it lol!

You made a small raise pre-flop and bet aggressively on the flop so it's unlikely anyone would put you on the flush draw 'cos to them you probably had A-rag, A-4, A-K or even a set of 4s .

So far you've made the perfect play.

However, your bet on the turn was horrific because you were giving your hand away by suggesting you are not afraid of the draws. If you had checked you would have found out what the other guy was capable of and remember he called your bet on the flop with his 8c-6c so he was looking to make the flush.

Your bet on the river was far too small unless the plan was to let him have a showdown.

If you had checked the turn, the other guy would likely have bet and you would have min-raised (to supposedly find out from him where your hand is at) and he would have either called or re-raised and if he had re-raised you would have only called.

You would have bet the river but how much is kinda tricky:

1 An instant all-in might have worked as a supposed bluff that you actually have the Q of clubs meaning you were betting A-Qo on the flop. That type of play sometimes works even against good players 'cos it's a shock when they see such a bet and with four clubs on the board and his two in the hole it's kinda unlikely that you actually have the Qc.

2] Maybe an over-bet of the pot would have worked somewhere around 2.5x the pot again as a supposed bluff. This time you would want to take your time making this decision so make the bet like a last second decision before the timer runs out.

3] Make a 75% pot value bet and hope he re-raises. :D

ye i know my turn bet was pretty shit, but i had _no_ clue what to do, i got excited :)

with the river being a 4th club, i didnt think he'd call any bet with me possibly having the Q or J of clubs, which is why i bet a small about to get paid off!

Looking back at it now, i shud of checkd the turn, let him bet and reraised him all in, i think he would of called with his flush..

The thing is it's hard to figure out exactly what would have happened so it's more often than not a good idea to play deceptively on the turn in that situation.

So you check on the turn and if he checks or bets you learn about him and if bets and you min re-raise and he calls or folds you learn more about him and if he he again re-raises that is even more information and you just call and see the river card and what you learned helps in deciding how much to bet on the river.

Maybe he would have called a check-raise all-in on the turn but you would be better advised to test him to learn rather than blindly going for something that might cause him to fold.

As a general rule people are afraid when somone shows strength and it's because it can cost far too much to find out if the strength is justified but when people see weakness they generally as a rule believe it is real until proven otherwise so try to be as confusing to your opponents as possible and you'll get paid a lot more. :)

Pffft, I see now that he was first to act so you couldn't check-raise the turn.

You had all the information you needed with his check on the turn and maybe if you had also checked it, he would have bet on the river but even if he didn't you would have known to make a decent value bet and it's highly likely he would have called it.

It's likely your bet on the turn caused him to check-call on the river too so instead of learning anything you caused him to passively play out the hand.

Why you playing such low blinds :P Still nice going though, although after working for a poker site I've learnt that royal flushes aren't so rare :(

i only had $20 on my account!

Lakerman played last week some pretty similar game:
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lakerman [Ac Ac]
Dolerho: folds
DAZO68: folds
omario22: calls $0.001
lakerman: raises $0.003 to $0.0035
HerrTuin: folds
nubsPwn3r: calls $0.0035
omario22: calls $0.0030
(at this point all remaining players try to convince the scottish omario22 to put $0.0005 more on the table)
*** FLOP *** [Kc Ac 4h]
nubsPwn3r: bets $0.0040
omario22: folds
lakerman: raises $0.005 to $0.0051
nubsPwn3r: calls $0.0051
*** TURN *** [Kc Ac 4h] [Kh]
nubsPwn3r: checks
lakerman: bets $0.008 (!)
nubsPwn3r: calls $0.008
*** RIVER *** [Kc Ac 4h Tc] [9c]
nubsPwn3r: checks
lakerman: checks (trapping Pwnish3r on show down)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lakerman: shows [Ac Ac] (full of aces)
nubsPwn3r: mucks hand
lakerman collected... $s from pot

Almost as exciting as a bad beat story.

This reminds me of that time when we did /callvote rand 100 and I guessed the number correctly, I'll be signing autographs next week.

ahx did that 3 times in a row

wannabe :-/

cunter

I got a few the other day.

hand history?

ofc i lie :p

oh i read it as "i got 1 the other day"

obviously didnt notice the sarcasm :)

http://www.pokerhand.org/?2884670 - the guy was out played with pot sized bets unable to fold kings.

i think you played the hand poorly tbh :(

how could be of played it any better? he took all the guys money!

obviously he was on tilt or something!

any decent player would of layed down the kings after the flop bet..

i'm not sure if you're serious

im 100% serious

i personally would of layed down the A8 preflop maybe :)

i'd rather 3-bet it than call, and rather fold than 3-bet. :)

check/call flop is way better than lead also.

flop action is debatable, otherwise i agree : >

if we lead an unknown opponent should fold a ton of hands he would bluff with otherwise, thus we lose value. :(

depends on opponent and his range no? some players will raise 100% of range, some will float any pair 2 streets etc etc. what would surprise me is a fold from PFR in that spot.

reads could of course change everything, though as a default line c/c is superior against an unknown in this spot imo.

yeah maybe

it's just my opinion, it's not like it's set in stone or anything :p

i know. Nothing is set in stone in NLHE, that's why it's such a great game : > I'm just glad i don't call these hands (unless HU) since it's pretty difficult to play them postflop, especially OOP.

P.S. where do u play? stakes?

even hu, weak offsuit aces play pretty poorly out of position (usually either win a small pot or lose a big one.) and nlhe is only a good game when you're running good imo. :p

i play on a few different sites, lately it's been mostly on prima, stakes $0.5/1 - 1/2.

no doubt. FTP same stakes, 2k downswing in like 3 days :P

ouch, i know the feeling. i lost like 5 big hands in a row for 1k in about 1 hour, then nlhe sucked more than ever.

ye ur exactly right, but how can u disagree when he got all the chips? :)

maybe playing it bad worked in his favour this time

sometimes you make the "right" play for the wrong reasons :)

very true : >

i didnt play the hand badly, there was a lot to this hand you guys dont know, he was agressive over 40%, and constantly raised the blinds, he always raised his hand by differing amounts consistently matching with the cards he held, he raised 14 with 1 person behind him so he wanted me, i put him on a mid pocketpair, QJ, Q10, K10 that range not AJ Q K. And with his unwillingness to raise my bets i figured he had a scared pocket pair. I played the hand correctly, he played the hand incorrectly. Ow and bare in mind this was full ring not 6 max, so 3 betting isnt as common as it is far more likely the 3 betting will run into a premium hand.

The pot sized bets looked like bluffs, and the over bet on the river is often at the tables a total bluff usually, hence his call.

You had the wrong hand to go up against his kings but fortunately the board played out perfectly and with a good read you extracted the maximum so yeah it was a perfect play from you.

Your reasoning for calling his pre-flop raise is definately understandable but still questionable except when taking into consideration you were defending your BB meaning I hope you wouldn't have done the same thing in any other position.

Did he play for much longer? :)

he bought back and seemed to tighten up again, shortly after however I stopped playing that session.

i had four of kinds multiple times, never anything higher than that. that's kinda crazy.

its my 2nd royal flush in probably the last year or two! probably only had quads a couple of times too!

best hand ive ever played was me vs a mate. heads up, 4 Aces vs some high FH. was pimp.

I've had a royal flush on a low limit table before on one of the major sites too, I don't know which is the more powerful realization: when you actually hit your royal flush and you are amazed at getting a ridiculously statistically improbable hand or when you realize if you'd been at a higher stakes table right now the royal flush wouldn't be the story you'd be telling people as much as how you just won $30k :)

I rarely remember the statistically improbable hands I make although one that always comes to mind is when I flopped a straight flush and with a bit of deception I received a big pay off from multiple opponents.

Another hand I remember is where I had pocket queens made into queens full of 9s on the flop and I value bet on every street with multiple callers but the river card was an ace giving the opponent hiding pocket aces a better full house. It was a tournament so instead of heading to the final table as the chip leader I was the short stack. :)

A book I was reading recently had something in it that I picked up on and because of that I was able to double up with 4-5 on a flop of 9-7-4. I bet small and got two callers and another 4 came on the turn and I bet reasonably small again and they called again and the river was a 5. I waited a short time then pushed all-in and got one caller who had made the straight. Incredible luck but you have to play to get lucky like that so to me it was deserved and of course I was aware that I could have been beaten by 4-7, 4-9, pocket 7s or pocket 9s and that really would have been a story to tell. :D

Another hand recently was pocket jacks and I min raised in middle position and got two callers. One guy had 6-2 and the other had 6-3 and the flop came 3-2-6. The BB who had 6-2 raised it up and I called and the other caller min re-raised it and the BB re-raised all-in. I typed "I have pocket jacks but I'll let you two gamble for this one" and the late position guy called the all-in but neither hit the board again and you guessed it a jack fell on the river! I was happy to fold even if one or both were semi-bluffing because the pot was small and I figured maybe one of them had already made two pair. :)

Poker, it's such an amazing game! :D