noo! don't dl
my dl will get slowed down:<

I wanted to dl before I posted the news but my email was being funny and the registration didn't come through. DLing now!

mine got finished at decent speed too (~400kb/s)!
gona watch it now \o

*****M I R R O R*********

http://levi.teamspeak.org/dl/redirect.php?fileid=1305

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thanks anyways

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well kiss my ass then.

i wanted to watch it god damn.

It didn't hurt too much when I registered.

Of course it didn't. Well, a little. But what in the name of god is the point in that? There is absolutely nothing reasonable in forcing your site visitors to register to download something. Or am I missing something and dos fnatic sell these emails to spam companies?

Sujoy do us a favor and next time don't post links to these attention whore sites or upload it somewhere where everyone can get it (like PQ3.net). Or better yet, an ESR torrent tracker :)

Archive.

as stated before in a previous thread:

the reason why we require users to register to our website in order to download files is to prevent other websites directly linking to our webspace and claiming the "bandwidth" as their own to promote whatever they may be doing on their website.

you're welcome to wait until another person downloads the file and uploads it to a site that freely distributes the file without registration.

there are easier and better ways of doing that. several noleech scripts can be made to do the exact same thing. fnatics reasons are probably totally different.

ah the ownage

you're right. we're the first teamsite to do this so that people think they sign up to our site just to get content, however we have a secret agenda so secret, we dont even know what it is yet.

the hidden agenda could be just something about bragging to SK or whoever that you've got more members than they do. but i think it's probably a sponsor issue. with more members, the sponsor believe you actually do something to make you worth the hard cash you get, thus making them give you more.

we have had the sponsors we have now before we even broke 1500 members on our page. i hardly believe that we use the amount of "e-fans" to influence our sponsors, when other big-name teams such as sk and 3d with similar sponsors have a memberlist of about 10-30k+.

edit:
checking again, sk seems to be listing about 500k worth of members registered to their site. so much for that theory?

well, you have to start somewhere don't you?

so you basically let people register so the file will get downloaded less?

i completely agree.

the point of that is traffic in most cases...
if a file gets direct linking on sites like this and others, traffic is HUGE and can cost alot of money...

for example i posted a 700MEG Video in one single forum (alot smaller than esr) as a direct download and the traffic that month was almost 500GB, while 600GB is my limit.

not every site has terrabytes of free traffic, please keep that in mind.

if you really want that file, a download where you have to sign up is better than no download isnt it ?

I bet you would've spent less type registering then writing your argument here on esr.

yes but what would you choose between some lame registration and having a flame here on ESR? I got my pick!

traffic = money you know?

Any mirrors? Im not going to register. I guess im not watching then :)

lazzzzzzy

If someone uploads it to blueyonder i'll download. :)

thx :D

250MB? Thats like a quarter of the size of the actual demo file isn't it? :)

Yes and another good thing is that you won't have to install d3 for it ;)

and you don't need a high-end computer to run in smoothly!

Gg fnatic.com - Im registered but cant login for some database error that occured 1-2 months ago

Maybe try posting a bug report with the error? Or go through lost passwords, or even mail [email protected].

A little off topic, but didn't fat play Q3 at QCon? I haven't read about this, so how did he do?

Quake 4 afaik. Apparently owned.

Yea they changed it at the last minute from Quake 3 to Quake 4 and Fat was apparently very good at it. Unsure whether he had the game earlier to practice.

He had it a few days before the event. (so he told us)

*gasp*

"for those of us that don't have the game installed."

What about those that do have the game installed?

forbidden to view it!

You need to be taught a lesson.

then you can download the 1 gig demos @ quakecon.filecloud.com

god damn it was hard to find that download button, even tho i was logged in.

bad design =(

yea, it took me about 30 seconds :)

Archive.

i needed 0,5 seconds... newbs!

bugmenot.com btw

Pretty good and close game, missed it on itg. Too bad it's such a RL dominated game, makes it a bit boring too watch.
Btw it would be nice if they would sync the ITG relay to it.

damn shotty is the rail of that game.
Never payed attention to D3 MP, but i must accept that it looks interesting, too much camping on that 50 armor+chaingun place though.

looking forward to that dm3 game :]

EDIT: the sentence "but i must accept that it looks interesting" is bullshit.

hehehe

They should have cut in the shoutcast, should they?

Is there a dl'able shoutcast anywhere? Can just synch it up manually I guess?

http://itg.filecloud.com/?user_category_id=190231

I nodded off watching this about half way through/ :(

I was surprised to see the comeback win near the end though, it seemed like rocketboy just kept giving him kills.

Anyone have it linked somewhere else? cba to register.

Mirror:
Levitation

thx :>

Good waste of bandwidth ;)

I want my 80MB back! :)

Which is why I said bandwidth. Thinking about the site, not the downloaders ;)

No I really want them back, that could have been 2 good albums from easynews into my cap.

we need another mirror? I video taped all the finals (Q2, Q3, D3), but I haven't put it up yet... not sure if people wanna see it or not.

me wants q2 !!!! :o

http://www.fz.se/filarkiv/?file=mov/Quake_2/Q...1_xvid.zip

<3

\:D/

Aye put them up! :)

As usual we're available for mirroring :)

<2

Give us q2 please :)

Ye q2 , wanna see that : )

http://www.fz.se/filarkiv/?file=mov/Quake_2/Q...1_xvid.zip

<3

hooray for levi tbh \\\o///

Oh man, this game sucks donkey balls soo hard. Nevermind.

Oh man, this game sucks donkey balls soo hard. Nevermind, I still have old gophers Q3A demos ....and I still have preety decent chance of seeing him soon playing QIV.

Doom3 my ass.

boooring

Zzz...

damn ... money well deserved for both of them. Playing that boring game is actually really hard work. The money they earned will easy their pain from practicing that for endless boring hours

Let's see.... Doom 3..... next, lol!

Thanks to the guys @ fnatic for uploading this :)

well that game sucked ass to spectate

Nice vid :)

Ouch slow gameplay, /quit after 5 minutes.

pretty glad i didn't bother playing doom3

=)

Wow D3 sucks more than I remember :e

That was so boring it made Counter-Strike look interesting.

Hahaha, yeah; it did have some CS moments.

wow, rb just basically handed it to gopher. it looked like he didn't even want to win.

Pretty interesting to see the map strat, but dissapointing to see the game really is a shitty as I remember it being.

Good to watch just to see what a high level doom3 1v1 looks like. Now lets hope q4 is nothing like this at all ;)

I couldn't understand if the level was high, average or low; if was the final of a tourney or 2 kids playing in a lan party. I guess that is one of the things that make it so boring to spec. It doesn't wow you not even a tiny bit.

Funny cause I played Doom 3 alot and liked it and know all the ins and outs of it and I know both of those guys would kill me at the game but it looked really sloppy when they played it.
Its funny how some of the best play can look very sloppy in that game

Nerves perhaps..

that was so boring

Terribly played, but who can blame them, there was never any incentive to play doom3... well, aside from a couple more-than-they-should've-been cash payouts, I guess. Bring on quake4 where we will have to actually compete to win...

btw, can tell doom3 never advanced at all even in LAN play by the fact they were still using stock dm2. That map has a terrible imbalance, really surprised no one used it...

Archive.

word

Altho, I have this wierd feeling he's gonna be the superstar of Quake4 since he's refering to 'we' when talking about competing ;)

/gopher

Well I kind of say "we" since I was heavy into doom3 for a short period of time and pioneered a few would-be map strategies on GGL, if the game would've taken off (just my luck, get time off enough to play the hell out of a game and it turns out to be total rubbish).

If you read this goph, did you prac d3 much? Were you like the official fnatic doom3 guy or such? I'm curious how a professional team took doom3 and if you yourself are a fan of it or just doing it for tourney money (although I guess that also depends on how fnatic operates, which, admitted I don't really know). Also how you practiced, and if you found it hard to practice (one reason I didn't go to any doom3 tourneys was because I had no lan partner.. yeah I know, pussy reason :\).

I really, really tried to like the game for a while, but in the end I hated how the gameplay ended up being "cheat or be cheated" on the stock maps (weapon denying, etc), and the community wasn't big enough to make good maps.

Far East mirror:
http://www.q3acn.com/ShowFile.aspx?PostID=12798

Boring, and un-skilled.
Pacman map, i am sure a newbie with somes hacks (r_picmip 5 lol) will own them in 1v2.

: bubble.

BTW : If people want to see why Gopher play D3 :

http://cyberfight.org/site/demos/15585

0 $ for this one.

;-)

Hehe, I never really played duels seriously in quake3, but I guess you didnt know that, enjoy the show at the EC finals ;)

You should spend all that sparetime you have which you're wasting by writing comments here on practicing instead, then maybe you could post an URL to your own demos instead of someone elses next time :P

/gopher

good or bad, we don't need to be expert to post a comment about this boriiiiiiiing and un-skilled demo.

: bubble.

Didn't know Gohper was on zen?

Hehe, actually I do, I live in the UK

Man, how often does armor spawn in this game? Felt like every 5 seconds.

think its every 20sec

what i would have much rather already is eswc 2005 vid :( (and 2004 but we all konw thats not gonna happen :( )

And some frag avis including czms double rockets on hub etc :)

i get a "crc" error at 99% when i extract it...
happens with winace as well as with winrar

redownload, or try repair if the archive has recovery record

never redownload, just put on keep broken files if it quits @ 99%, then you will be able to see the whole video. redownloading it is crap :)

Holy shit watching D3 is like watching paint dry only more painful.

its doom, do i need to say more?

Hopefully Q4 will be used for the main tournament and make the next QCON a bit more interesting. I cant see why they wouldnt use it, personally I would have held a Q4 tourney this past QCON seeing as they apparently had it playable? Would have been very interesting results with no one having played the game, but everyone being practiced at the game will make for a tourney just as interesting, if not more.

actually, rumor has it that fatal1ty played it a bit longer than just at the event but it's just rumors :)

He said he got it on the Wednesday.

Thanks for uploading this vid, really great match!

Omg I didn't follow the endless stream of ESR-style-mainstream-fools and diss this lovely video!!!

really hard to resist, isn't it?

I think gopher uploaded, according to this thread:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=869551

lovely???? I think you are very subjective and there is no reason for saying all other ppl fools. Ppl on this site are into gaming and if they all say that something sux, it must be for a reason.

and pls tell us what you liked about it? I am really curious.

Check the rating. Fool.

you check it. Swearing is for ppl that can't say anything smarter and additionally, swearing in the net is so gay.

lol

i want an avi from the q2 final plz!!

Just download the Q2 demo and 3.20 patch. Hardly an effort.

me too

Initially I was a little bored watching this. Doom 3 doesn't seem to have the same wow factor that you associate with e-sports games. However it picked up towards the end with gopher's chase to catch up in the last 3 minutes and Rocketboy doing his best to maintain his lead. I expect everyone on this site has played one of those games where they're either trying to hold a score, or make a desperate comback in the last seconds. Imagine doing that in a $50,000.00 tournament.

Would have been better with itg casting, hopefully they'll release it soon.

I don't regret downloading it, but it was for sure boring even with the 3 min so called comeback (few frags in 3 mins, nothing spectacular except the money that they were playing for).

It deserved the download though just for the curiosity.

I watched this just after watching Falcon vs Lauke from ESWC2005 and Doom 3 still looked more exciting to watch than UT2k4, mainly because the action was more close-quarters. Still not close to Q1-3 quality, but not awful.

Dom.

The Final Casts have been uploaded since last wednesday :)

http://itg.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=43854 for Doom 3

woow !
Now I can say D3 sux :]

What a retarded game d3 is! Noobs playing q3 seem infinitely more skilled than pros playing d3. I am sure gopher and rocket boy r very skilled and hv put in a lot of effort, but this game makes them look BAD :-(

It's jsut the way the Doom 3 is, if Zero 4, Czm or Cooler trained 24/7 for a solid month they would still get absolutely owned by these two players.

You consider daler a pro gamer right? Go see where he came in the tourney and if you really think they are nobs, why don't you think the other pro gamers bothered to entered?
Cuz they know they would get owned. Why do you think Fatal1ty did not enter? Cuz he too would have got owned and owned extremely hard.
If it was true, then surely they could have trained for what two weeks and kicked ass? Seeing as they are so much better?
It's bullshit, they would have gotten raped by players like myself, let along gopher and Rocketboy.

This was only slow becasue these two two very smart players playing for a lot of money, when you consider a shotgun can do 200/200 damage you have to be very careful.

I could go online now, record a demo of myself playing and look 2-3 times more impressive than both the players in this demo, yet if I played either of thiose two players I know would lose.

And go watch a quake III demo from 5 years ago and see how impressive they are then. After all Doom 3 is less than a year old.
Your statement falls short on so many points you simply make yourself look clueless about games and the way things work.

He said it was the game making Gopher and RocketBoy look bad and I seriously doubt Daler and Fatal1ty would get raped by you after two weeks of practice.

"What a retarded game d3 is! Noobs playing q3 seem infinitely more skilled than pros playing d3".

My reply was to that and his mis understanding.

And I'd happily play fatality and Daler and bet strongly on myself.
That was not really meant as a challegne to them, more to confierm the point that being good at q3 does not mean they are super skilled across the board.
Each game has its own merits and time has to be put in to learn the subtle points of each game. I know both of those players are very unprepared for Doom 3 becasue they have been playing PK. If they had playd it the same amount of time as me then I'm sure they rape me, but they have not, so they would not.
It's like saying Micheal Schumacher is a better driver than someone like Colin Mc Rae the Rally Driver.
Both are totally different games and they are as good and as bad as teh otehr at their choosen sports. It's no different for gaming which is the point I was really trying to make.

Being good at a 6 year old means very little, you should be bloody good at all that time and of course the players will look better after playing a game for 6 years solid, compared to two players who have played it a few months. It's not even a fair comparison, hence its a sueless one.

1) I still doubt you would "rape" them
2) They switched to PK very well and Fatal1ty is known for being able to switch games and pick up on things very quickly.

I'm not sure Daler has switched all that well TBH.
As for Fatal1ty, he devotes every single moment of his life to gaming.
Of coure he's gonna be good.
Anyeway my point is not about beating known players, it's about known players having to work hard in whatever game they go to.

Daler has done well really. He never won a big lan duel for q3 remeber and was never a dominant force.

look, im not even reading any of your comments or opinions. I stated that i would make top 10 in the doom3 tournament beforehand and you STRONGLY believed i wouldnt even get that far. well guess what, i did exactly what i set out to do and tied for 9th place....... i have no idea why you are so cocky and arrogant with your opinions, but grow up. youre not special.

if i had any intention to take a shot at top 3 in this tournament, i feel i would have a decent chance given if i had the opportunity to practice for it. but i didnt, i have played doom3 maybe 10 times this year prior to qcon, and knew very well how my chances were and knew that i would make top 10... granted i only lost to one player the whole tournament, jebus, im not that bad at this game and hell, any game I take a serious stab at. I even won the fatal1ty/creative booth's doom3 ffa tournament on the first day which featured maddog/forever and other great doom3 players! get your head out of your ass :D

BTW, you know whats worse than shit talkers? people like you who are lan dodgers, stop making outrageous claims and trying to treat them like truths. if you are trying to prove a point about d3 players, talk about people who actually play the game than bringing up a list of progamers you find suitable for your agenda. You are like many players out there, all those online players who talk talk talk, dont attend lans, and dont make a name for themselves.... keep up the dream.

well attending lans and never winning them is a bit useless imho. I would travel alot to attend these lans if i got a solid chance for a spot in the cash area. Otherwise it's no use, too much xpenses just to be able to pass 56hours with a bunch of smelly nerds, sharing files, eating horrible food and not sleeping.
I'd rather stay home not winning anything and flaming you.

not attending is fine...... saying you are the biggest and greatest while not attending is just stupid. its your call what you wanna be though, acting like youre hot shit when youre not is a waste of time and only gets you a few seconds of attention while people realize you are just another moron on a website...

true. But they enlighten my day by allowing me to comment sucha like posts.

Even if i agree with the part where you mention ppl having it on websites and not achieving shit on lans - still it's not worth the effort training hours to end 5th (wich is really a good placing if you have strong opponents) but still not getting any cash. I mean (and that's if i would have pro level, which is absolutely not the case) i don't need to go to dallas or something to prove i'm good @1v1, but i would go to dallas if i could win cash. This is just an example.

It's like when you see those ppl attending every sindle WT stop for PK and never placing higher than top30 - i mean those obviously got too much money and spare time, i wouldnt ask for a few days off at work to spend 1000$ on travel expenses just to prove the world i can end 12th..

If that comment was meant for me pretty much everyone in the Doom 3 community knows the main reason I did not attend is becasue I did not believe i would place high enough to win enough money to cover my trip becasue there were only prizes for top 3 and as much as I would have liked to compete, it simply was not financially possible for me and I openly admitted I did not have the skills to make top 3.

I admitted this on the Quakecon forum, hardly the sign of big headed shit talker is it?

And Daler, qcon is in your back yard as are many of the CPL event and you have your clan sponsoring you to go to all these CPL PK stops, you're in a position most people are not.
you should think about thigns like that and real life before you start accusing people of shit talking. When you reach early 20's you'll probably start to realise that you can't get away with playing games all day and poker and just generally having a good time, you have other commitments.
Depending on how my work goes this year and early next year and if CPL pick q4 will determine If I play or not, nothign to do with being scared.
I got raped by Fooki last night in q3, im far from a shit talker.
But if you need to classify me as that to get rid of the validity of my comments then thats's fine.

End.

Actually daler this was my top 10 list at Quakecon. And as you will see I added you to the list (http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=857897#pid857897) before quakecon started.

G0dmode USA
Clamp USA
Nomadic USA
Rocketboy CN
Dr Doom GER
Dragon (if he's trained) GER
Gopher SWE
Sadface NOR
Slain3 GER
Daler USA (IF* He trains like mad vs good people-but I just don't believe its possible)

Yes you did make it, but you shared a top 9 (http://tournaments.quakecon.org/tournament/st...amentid=11) with 4 other people. Also Dr Doom and Dragon did not attend that event, if they had they would have placed top 10 for sure as they about on the same level as G0pher and this has nothing to do with shit talking.
My point was players like yourself and Fatal1ty have a reputation from Quake III and I simply used your name as an example (because you were one of very players at qcon who had a reputation both in doom 3 and gaming in general), of someone who is a success in q3 (which many regard as a true measurement) to explain to the guy that it's not ticket to winning every single game, because the way he was talking, he was taking a lot of credit away from G0pher and Rocketboy and I'm simply saying it's stupid comparing the level of play to game people have played religiously for 6 years to that of something RB and Gopher have played for a few months.

And this was my comment....
"And I'd happily play fatality and Daler and bet strongly on myself.
That was not really meant as a challegne to them, more to confirm the point that being good at q3 does not mean they are super skilled across the board".

If you can't read such things without getting defensive, accusing me of shit talking then you need to grow up.
I never said I would rape you, in fact if you bothered to read a bit more I said.

"I know both of those players are very unprepared for Doom 3 becasue they have been playing PK. If they had playd it the same amount of time as me then I'm sure they rape me, but they have not, so they would not".

That's hardly shit talking now is it?

I'm not even goign to get into the whole LAN thing as you're obviously comparing me to a shit talker. Which I'm not, perhaps you're just used to people blowing smoke up your ass and telling you how great you are.
If you need to classify intelligent comments as "shit talking" so that they don't apply then that's upto you.

Shit talking would be, XXXx is crap at quak 4, im much better than him and im gonna own xxx at qcon05.

"if they had playd it the same amount of time as me then I'm sure they rape me". That is not shit talking.

look, you can come with many excuses as to why you cant back up your words about your "skills" and you can try and sound smart and mature about what you are talking about by answering to your own comments you made, but fact is, you have been and continue to make crazy out of the blue remarks. If you don't understand what im talking about, then so be it. But I'm not sure how old YOU are, but I atleast am mature enough not to sit on forums preaching how i can beat this guy and this guy if they played, and how this guy isnt that great, and how this other guy isnt. Simple fact is, you didn't go to Quakecon... I can definitely understand why you didn't, but the thing is, you can't make the claims you are making if you plan on just sitting at home and still consider yourself atleast good, especially against names youre listing. Don't kid yourself.

I think you can play doom3 at a level of top 64 qcon play for sure, it cant be that hard to believe, but you didnt go, so ANYTHING you have to say about it is considered to be voided really. What if I didn't attend, and sat here saying i could make top 10 still, you would still whine about it and i would probably look like what you are now. I made a comment about how well I would do, you seemed to jump right on it as a good way to lash out, and you were 100% wrong... go back to your cave, mr troll.

Thing is, you can trash me all you want, it atleast entertains me for the time being :D, but you seem to have a perception of pro-gamers like they are Gods among the community. Grow up mate, I play games just like anyone else and I don't put myself above everyone else like you seem to do sitting solely from your room. As far as im concerned, you will probably continue to bark all day about it... but hey, why not goto CPL WT in UK (isnt that in your backyard?) for painkiller and prove you can atleast play video games well. Or are you a one game blunder who is a never was.

I'm not making any excuses , nor am I smack talking .
I simply used your name as an example because you were a successful q3 player and had some success with Doom 3 last year.
I also mentioned that If you had trained with Doom 3 you would probably rape me. But how dare I say I BELIEVED I could beat the mighty Daler who's played very little of a game I have played a great deal of over the last 9 months.

Oh and do me a favour, don't goad me in public. It's one thing for me saying I believe I can beat a player who has played very little doom 3, it's another thing entirely accusing me of being all mouth.

For what it's worth I'll gladly play you on a New York server from the UK at Doom 3. You'll have a 45 ping to my 95-100 and I'll still gladly play you.
So if you're going to accuse me of being all mouth then be careful what you say becasue I'm more than willing to call your bluff and I seriously doubt you'll like the hand you're dealt.

As for the not attending quakecon, it's not an excuse, it was a financial problem. Faced by myself, faced by Dignitas Dragon and from what I heard Dr Doom and a lot of other players.

Both of those players had the potential for top 3, yet it was finances which got in the way. I wonder how many CPL stops you would be going to if you were not being sponsored. WOuld that give the other players any right to accuse you of being all talk?
When you have the CPL and Qcon in your backyard, it's very easy for you to accuse other players of chickening out.
But the fact is Daler it's costs thousands to attend these events.

As for PK, I hate the game and that's not really hard to believe considering most of the players in the WT hate the game too.
It has nothing to do with chickening out. If I had the slightest bit of skill or will to play PK I would play.
Hell I did play, a day after the CPl announced it I went out and paid 50 bucks, played it for 2 days and hated every minute of it.
I Would love to play some of the CPL players in the UK, but it would be pointless because it is not a game I play.

If you don't play doom3 then why does it bother you so much that someone who's played it fairly consistently over the last 8 months thinks he might beat someone who's played it less than 10 times this year?
It was just a passing comment.
Even if I did, what satisfaction would I possibly get from beating someone at something they not playing at their full potential?
I have already admitted you would probably rape me if you were fully prepared so i'm not exactly sure what you're getting fired up about.

It's pointless and that was not my point, but like you say if you're accusing me of being all mouth I just want you to know I'm more than happy to play you.
As for pk I didn't think you were doing that well in the WT. I'm sorry for being honest and expressing MY opinion and putting my real name next to it. Perhaps I should register a fake name, slag you off online and then praise you when I see you online or whatever.
Sorry, but I stand by what I siad cuz I don't think I said anything bad nor did I bad mouth you. I'm always fair and happy to admit when I'm in the wrong. Perhaps I'm jsut too honest for my own good.

the reason im even talking to you is because you chose to take the position to call me out on my comments in my interview....... i mentioned something about me making top 10 at qcon, you decided to refute my opinion on how i will do..... and this is how it ended up.

I have ZERO idea why you could care about stating that its a slim chance that i would make even top 10 at qcon... on top of that, you are making arrogant statements regarding your doom3 abilities. heres the facts, im not a doom 3 player nor pretend to be, my goal for qcon was making top 10 and anything beyond that would be a dream. I am a pretty honest person myself too, i knew getting top 10 wasnt going to be that hard, even if I didnt practice like i did. I even played in the quake 2 tournament, finished top 24, for not even playing q2 1v1 at all before the weekend prior to. I felt my performances was a little lacking, but it was fun competing. I went to qcon for fun and the free opportunity to have a chance in winning stuff... in which i did, a $300 creative x-fi card.

you can make your opinions up about me, as you label me as another progamer, but i have been dealing with players like yourself ever since ive started playing video games online... just constant ego. Ego is perfectly fine, if its earned :D There are many players in the world who has the record to show to back up their talk. But someone creating a bunch of what-if scenerios in his head? dont think so, just another kid in my opinion. but hey, if doing what you are doing makes you feel good, by all means.... easier to talk the talk than to walk the walk i guess :c ... keep up the dream :D

P.S. i know why you didnt goto qcon, the REAL reason! because you would get owned..... hard. officially ignored. Just keeping it real, peace, daler

/quit

Just one thing Daler, if you are going to be a "pro gamer" or at least "pseudo pro" then you are going to have to accept that people will know you and hence have opinions on you and your skills / style whatever, be it good or bad. The best thing to do is to ignore such comments.

You don't see others sports "professionals" going off the rails everytime they get a "bad review"

hah, i agree :D this is more out of bordedom/entertainment on my part....... i dont know if you know, but im not well liked among some people of the q3 community for a variety of reasons. more people than i have fingers and toes, but to hear someone like jamerio make such outlandish comments, i knew i could take a swing and hit at the same time :D ive been a target for bad opinions ever since ive joined the gaming scene, just like any other successful player has, but ive learned to deal with it quite well.... but cant pass up the opportunity to stump someone like jamerio

Disappear to never be heard from again, some newb will turn up who is increadibly good. No1 will suspect it's you with a different name :)

Daler you seem to brush of the remotest bit of critique', by brandishing and making out that everyone wants a piece of you and everyone's jealous Get real, I have said in many other threads that I think you are a skilled player.

I make one little passing comment about how I believed I could probably beat daler in a game I played a lot this year compared to someone who has played it very little (and played a lot of a totally different game) and you accuse me of smack talking and being full of shit?

Not that this was my original objective, but like I said Daler, I will gladly play you with DBL your ping.
You're not stumping me at all mate, I'm offering to play you, you're the one talking the talk. Why not get itg to cast it, so you can really rub my face in it?
Still, I guess it's a lot easier and safer for you play everyone down as a smack talker on a forum, rather than actually call their bluff and risk losing. I guess if you play at the CPL then at least no one can accuse you of losing to crappy no name players.

And you are what most people class as a pro-gamer.

you get sponsored to play and travel.
you win money from these events.
you give interviews and talk about life as as pro gamer.

The whole pro-gamer thing is a bit of a misconception, but you appear to fit the bill.
The only reason I used both your name and Fat is becasue you were the best known gamers who had a little history in Doom 3, if it was vo0 or whoever I would have used that name. It was nothing personal.
You're q3 history means nothing to me neither does PK because the games are different to this and I know enough about q3 to take the basics and apply it to something else. And that was my original point, owning at one game does not mean owning at the next.
Players get good from putting time in and learning from their mistakes.

And FYI, I have never disliked you and don't now, I think it's pretty cool what you're doing, but you really yneed to get out of that little eliteist bubble you seem to created for yourself.

Thanks for understanding my point!

Lol. U hv got it all wrong :\
I never said nething about gopher or rb being unskilled. I am sure they'd own nebody in d3 including fat and daler. I was talking abt how the game looks being played.
q3 movement and gameplay is so fluid that it is a pleasure watching demos even if the skill level is not that high. But in d3, even when the players r really skilled (as in this case) the demo looks really noobish. It is all about spamming 24/7 with rockets and occasionally getting a good shot in with the shotty. The shotty is so over powered, it could take an elephant with 200/200 down in one shot.
Pl understand the comment properly b4 judging it...
"Noobs playing q3 seem infinitely more skilled than pros playing d3"
"gopher and rocket boy r very skilled and hv put in a lot of effort, but this game makes them look BAD"

Damn! Why don't tags work??!!
Neway I hope I hv made myself clear...

try .[ i ] [ /i ] tags m8 but without the space_between characters.

Yes I know that, but it was a stupid thing to say.

D3 is less than a year old and q3 is has a leagacy that's been played for 6 years to people who have devoted their teenage lives to getting good at it.
It's just pointless comparing it.

why do you insist on being a joke in every thread?

You're just known Clown with a love for Kash. You're not worth replying to wit ha decent answer.
You're also a shit stirrer and like the trailer trash I suspect you are you're hoping to take this off track and stir up some trouble.
Go jerk off and watch another kash demo. I'm not interested in what you have to say.

"Rating: 4.3 (38 votes)" for a CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH, not only that, BUT ONE OF THE FIRST CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES.


yea. doom3 is amazing.

I never said it was, but is this your attempt at trying to bother me because I like the game?
Every single comment of yours is negative and designed to cause trouble.
You're a dope. Nothing more. Nothing less. You offer no scope for a discussion, just a desperate attempt to gain some satisfaction in your miserable life by trying to piss off others to mirror your own crappy life.
http://www.esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=4954
Every single one of your comments is a disagreement and an insult to everyone else. I'm glad you disagree with me becasue I must have a valid point. bye.

well i'm just gonna go ahead and say Wrong.

and that doom3 is garbage, this movie is pretty clear about that.


"I'm glad you disagree with me becasue I must have a valid point. bye."

go have fun with doom3.

First time i watch a Doom3 game and gotta admit it, it was boring. In some weird way it reminded me of counter-strike.. jesus. I hope Quake4 is better.

well played hunnybunny :D

what's your opinion bout D3 Ms.X? =)

I don't mind it, can be fun. Of course there's better games out there but I don't find it as bad as most think!~

yeah i was just about to say. this is faster and has more action than UT 1v1s. the hitscan guns are balanced and don't dominate the game. the projectile weapons require skill because they don't spam a bunch of slow-moving projectiles...and unlike UT, this has some awesome looking lighting/shadows which kind of make the slow pace make more sense. it really looks like it could be a duel you see in a Doom movie in the cinema, and the ambient sounds were nice.

i think playing games without ripping out all visual/audio detail keeps their personality intact, and adds more environment, and helps distinguish one game from another. do we really need Quake, UT, Painkiller to be the same game with different guns/maps?

(can't imagine playing doom3 24-7 though, i like fast paced games myself.)

the hitscan in ut2k4 is really a pain in the ass. In 2k3 you could compensate with the instant weapon switch, so games would look less like shock/rail all the time.

But in 2k4 its just rubbish, with a shock rifle you can shoot 4 primary shots in less then one and a half sec, while rockets and flak are just poor spam.

+ the removal of some movements like boost/super/mega dodging (don't remember the exact name) made the game a lot less "monkey style" and even more hitscan based.

quit that after 2 minutes. zzzzzzzzzzz

I struggled, but managed to watch the whole lot, quite boring :( I wonder if the shoutcast would have made it much more exciting?

wow.

wow. if there was ever bigger proof needed that doom3 was pathetic this is IT.

1046 dls on our mirror now

i watched it and it seems well, quake is way more exciting ;p never have seen doom3 in action, and now that i have, it's like doom2 apart every visual aspect is enhanced for the sake of the feel, and u can't run around at the speed of lightning >:( The map looks small, woith corridors and 2 floors :S and with that the players go around and roxor eachother. I say gopher won coz he timed the 50 armor thingy untill he had ~170 :P seems rocketboy doesn't know where it's located ^_^ watch if you like doom3 / timing then 2 shot closerange rocketkills.

p.s. it looks like the rocket here doesnt have splash damage. gg d3

hahahaha

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fell asleep while watching... who won?

gopher

i know i know, was kidding :)

I was so bored I killed myself.

Didnt think it was _that_ bad tbh, obviously it wasnt exactly fast paced all-out action, but was hardly expecting that.

TBH, I've seen quiet a few quake X demos that I've given up watching after the first 5mins simply because they got tiresom, at least this match, for me personally, was watchable for all 15min; though perhaps that was because I've never seen d3 actually being played, which made me more curious.

Anyway, still doesnt particularly spark my imagination to play d3 (that map made me so claustraphobic I had to open a window) and was indeed very slow paced.

Anyway, an interesting watch imo - specially for those who have never seen d3 before and are somewhat open and willing to watch a game that -isn't- quake.

can agree with that

what a shitty game is this doom3... lol lol lol :(
i just wonder how some of the guys here in the comments were still writting that this is more exiting than UT or something else... lol... it was so so boring that i watched second half of the game with fast forward just to see who has won :\

rather zz

i was curious to watcht this video, and now I'm just sad because it just shows that doom 3 really is the antithesis of the doom series for multiplayer. Doom and doom 2 were fantastic fun 1v1, insane speed, crazy kills, huge gibs, imagine if they had made doom 3 multi fast paced and given us the real weapons from doom2 (dbl barrel, bfg, rockets, plasma) I think it would be pretty fun, especially on remakes of the old doom2 classic maps like dwango5 map1, danzig 11, shotgun3a.. hell, none of you know what i'm talking about :) Lets just say, Doom 3 doesn't rep Doom for what it is/was in terms of multi.

i'll second that

i thought it was ok.

In addition to the rocket and chaingun, if you watch carefully you get to see 2 new weapons - one looks like a shotgun and the other some plasma type thing, were these added specifically for this tournament?

;]

I couldn't watch it all, too boring :/.