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Forums > Quake Live Forum
qlranks tv is back!! (61 comments)
( Forum: QL)
Posted by ins @ 22:16 CDT, 18 May 2014 - iMsg
http://twitch.tv/qlrankstv

!!!!!
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<< Comment #1 @ 01:42 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Colour: black nsx0r 
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Edited by xou at 04:49 CDT, 19 May 2014
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<< Comment #2 @ 02:04 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Poland Lam 
And it has betting! Fucking ace!
<< Comment #51 @ 18:43 CDT, 25 May 2014 >>
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By Germany - Berlin ihve  - Reply to #2
betting??
<< Comment #3 @ 02:09 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Bulgaria cha0z_ 
f0k yeah!

But no quality setting.
Edited by cha0z_ at 02:10 CDT, 19 May 2014
<< Comment #4 @ 02:40 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By shafthore's only by dann Lave  - Reply to #3
5 different for me :o
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<< Comment #5 @ 02:45 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Bulgaria cha0z_  - Reply to #4
Now it does O.o
I can swear it didn't when I posted. FFS gg no re
<< Comment #11 @ 04:25 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By shafthore's only by dann Lave  - Reply to #5
well resolution transcoding is only available to partner streams or if enough bandwidth is available they unlock it on non-partner streams with a *excellent* marked dashboard quality. quite likely when you turned in qlrankstv didnt met these requirements and now it does.
<< Comment #6 @ 03:00 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Germany Anonymous (193.175.106.227) 
Quite funny...

today i just remembered there was a qlranks channel (dunno why i thought of it) and that it disappeared after Dreamhack.

And now a few hours later it's on again xD
<< Comment #7 @ 03:35 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Denmark CENEk 
And now we're stuck watching the Intel logo on Campgrounds with two 1200 Elo Americans, while AGENT is playing Bloodrun on another server :(
<< Comment #9 @ 03:40 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By cooller skint  - Reply to #7
and the whine is back
<< Comment #10 @ 03:44 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Denmark CENEk  - Reply to #9
Hey, relax, I love that it's back. It's a great way to just sit back and enjoy some Quake action. Like Latvietis says, you gotta expect bugs.

I like the new overlay as well!
<< Comment #17 @ 11:05 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By QuakeLive flocks  - Reply to #7
Hey, at least with 1200 elo nabs, you have a chance of seeing someone get over 18% LG accuracy...
<< Comment #8 @ 03:39 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Latvia Latvietis 
Looks good, but you gotta expect bugs the first time))
<< Comment #12 @ 05:14 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By United States of America Lorfa  - Reply to #8
I was going to say the stream seems like it's running at 15 fps.

It's also kind of dark, but it was probably like that before.
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<< Comment #13 @ 05:40 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Denmark CENEk  - Reply to #12
Yes, a small increase in r_gamma would be good for me :)
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<< Comment #18 @ 12:14 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom szr  - Reply to #13
Maybe I have set r_mapOverBrightBits/Cap too low? I will play around with it later..
<< Comment #20 @ 12:28 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By France me  - Reply to #18
cfg is fine but r_gamma 1.1/1.25 wouldn't hurt
<< Comment #21 @ 13:17 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom szr  - Reply to #20
Its at 1.15 now
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<< Comment #22 @ 13:37 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By France me  - Reply to #21
better :)
<< Comment #14 @ 07:53 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Denmark CENEk 
Did Agent lower his sens?
<< Comment #15 @ 08:16 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR 
Nice, missed it.
<< Comment #16 @ 09:59 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Netherlands kevz 
lol drejk-cypher whining at eachother like babbies :3

shame the bot switched server :(
<< Comment #19 @ 12:16 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom szr 
Hi all, if anyone has any suggestions which I think are good, I will be happy to implement them.

One thing I was thinking about was making QL chat be piped into twitch chat, so you never miss a good rage again!

Oh btw, thank scrbr for the new overlays :p
Edited by szr at 12:17 CDT, 19 May 2014
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<< Comment #23 @ 13:39 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By rabite ^_^ zb0t  - Reply to #19
I asked sirax on stream earlier if you guys can add like +acc for instance on screen, but it appears and disappears every 2 mins in the game AND/OR when it switches players it automatically does, a bit like when you watch sports on tv there are these little infos that they show.

+acc is just a suggestion, I'm sure there are many other things you can display...

sirax said that you will do this, but I wasn't sure it was a reply to my question though :D
Edited by zb0t at 13:47 CDT, 19 May 2014
<< Comment #24 @ 13:42 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom szr  - Reply to #23
Sure I can do that, no problem :)
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<< Comment #29 @ 18:31 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Australia Intro  - Reply to #19
make it so it joins aus/nz servers please :D
<< Comment #30 @ 08:36 CDT, 20 May 2014 >>
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By Colour: blue generic nickname  - Reply to #19
mmmhh, maybe an ability for mods to restart the bot with a command like "!restart"
right now it's stuck on dm6 at the join/spec screen and people can't keep bugging you or sirax to fix this or that when a single restart could do wonders
<< Comment #41 @ 11:42 CDT, 23 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom szr  - Reply to #30
Already added.
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<< Comment #44 @ 15:16 CDT, 23 May 2014 >>
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By Colour: blue generic nickname  - Reply to #41
yaaay

so does that mean we won't get the "kicked - server disconnected" message anymore ?
<< Comment #40 @ 16:55 CDT, 22 May 2014 >>
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By Quake.cz Dbzruler72  - Reply to #19
Searching algorithm
- Use average highest ELO in lieu of the highest ELO to avoid 2200 vs 1100 games
- Cycle through regions so that games from less common countries such as South Africa, Australia, and Brazil appear more often

Warmup stats
- Change "%" to "Win %"
- The Games statistic is a bit unclear and redundant. Consider removing it.
- If there's room, include the players' win percentages on the current map
<< Comment #42 @ 11:54 CDT, 23 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom szr  - Reply to #40
- Use average highest ELO in lieu of the highest ELO to avoid 2200 vs 1100 games

I am already using a search algorithm, maybe it needs tweaking but it's actually better than simply getting the average Elo of the players and I certainly don't just go for the highest Elo. I can provide more details on the current algorithm if you wish.


- Cycle through regions so that games from less common countries such as South Africa, Australia, and Brazil appear more often

The bot already searches African and South American servers, however I don't see any advantage to "cycling through regions" as you say because in my opinion it is better to just show the best players currently available, regardless of which region they come from. Why watch two 2000 Elo players from Brazil when say dem0n vs cypher is on in Europe? Just for the sake of cycling through regions?

- Change "%" to "Win %"

This can be done, I will contact the overlay designer (scrbr) about this.

- The Games statistic is a bit unclear and redundant. Consider removing it.

Agreed, I don't like it either, I will see if I can get this removed.

- If there's room, include the players' win percentages on the current map

Yes, good suggestion, maybe we could replace "Games" with this.
<< Comment #43 @ 14:39 CDT, 23 May 2014 >>
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By Quake.cz Dbzruler72  - Reply to #42
Sure, I'd like a look at the algorithm. That'd be a treat.

As for cycling through regions, you could look at the last X number of games played and check if some regions have not yet been selected by the bot. Those that haven't would be assigned a greater priority in your searching queue so that they have a greater chance of being chosen the next time around. After the last DreamHack, I've grown more interested in seeing less common regions because they offer different styles of dueling since they're so disconnected with the rest of the world. But that's only my personal preference, and I'm sure others disagree and just want the highest level possible games 24/7, regardless of region. It's really up to you.
<< Comment #45 @ 16:08 CDT, 23 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom szr  - Reply to #43
The algorithm is as follows:

Servers are given a rating, the server with the highest rating wins.

Players have a rating, the total rating of a server is the sum of all the ratings of each player in a server.

Player ratings are:

Uber Pro: 450
Normal Pro: 320
>= 2000 Elo: 200
< 2000 Elo: Uses formula Elo / 1999 * 90


Uber Pros are:

"k1llsen",
"tox",
"cypher",
"av3k",
"rapha",
"strenx",
"cooller",
"dahang",
"evil"

Normal Pros are:

"dem0n",
"baksteen",
"sc00t",
"voO",
"fazz",
"p0ni",
"pavel_",
"guard",
"agent",
"spart1e",
"noctis"

This shows how servers would be prioritised (in descending order):

Uber Pro vs Uber Pro = 900
Normal Pro vs Uber Pro = 770
Uber Pro vs >= 2000 Elo = 650
Normal Pro vs Normal Pro = 640
Normal Pro vs >= 2000 Elo = 520
Uber Pro vs < 2000 Elo = 450.05 To 540
>= 2000 Elo vs >= 2000 Elo = 400
>= 2000 Elo vs < 2000 Elo = 200.05 To 290
< 2000 Elo vs < 2000 Elo = 0.09 To 180

EDIT: Note how Uber Pro vs < 2000 Elo could switch places with Normal Pro vs >= 2000 if the Elo of the < 2000 Elo player is greater than 1554.

OK, so with the above in mind, lets imagine there is a choice of two servers. One with dem0n vs evil and another with rapha vs dahang:

dem0n vs evil = 320 + 450 = 770
rapha vs dahang = 450 * 2 = 900

As you can see, rapha vs dahang (900) > (770) dem0n vs evil therefore the former would be selected as the best server to join.

So that is the algorithm in a nutshell.. However, there is a small caveat which I failed to mention, that is, I also attribute spectators to the total rating of a server by multiplying the person in spec's normal rating by a coefficient of 0.1, e.g. Cyphers rating is normally 450, but if he is in spec, he will add 45 to the overall rating of a server. I chose to do that as I believe a server with spectators is usually better than one without, as there is usually a good reason why they are spectating.

Anyways, I hope this makes sense, let me know if you have any questions. Also I did realise that perhaps who I define as "Uber Pro" and "Normal Pro" could be altered as those lists may be out of date. Suggestions welcome.
Edited by szr at 16:12 CDT, 23 May 2014
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<< Comment #46 @ 17:04 CDT, 23 May 2014 >>
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By Germany Anonymous (84.46.41.198)  - Reply to #45
add to normal pros:
Fraze, madball, dkt, chance
maybe : gienon,sev3n, plazma
add to uberpros: ash
<< Comment #50 @ 18:14 CDT, 25 May 2014 >>
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By boatclub palatka  - Reply to #46
ash has a personal stream so i really dont tthink theres any need for him to be followed by qlranks tbh
<< Comment #52 @ 19:28 CDT, 25 May 2014 >>
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By 004 jamalz  - Reply to #45
oh lawl, spartie you got downgraded bruh ;(
<< Comment #56 @ 14:35 CDT, 26 May 2014 >>
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By Quake.cz Dbzruler72  - Reply to #45
Add Zero4 to normal pros. Also adding country flags next to players' names in the top right box would be a nice touch, though you'll need to extend the box slightly to make space.

At times QLRanks joins a server with one player and no opponent. The other day I saw this three times within twenty minutes, so I assume it happens often. Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3
<< Comment #57 @ 11:15 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>
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By Germany twister  - Reply to #45
Please don't switch to eye to eye games :x
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<< Comment #47 @ 17:23 CDT, 23 May 2014 >>
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By US-Illinois jstn  - Reply to #43
Eh. I feel like it should just show the highest level game available whenever it can. If someone is interested in checking out the playstyles of different isolated regions they could always just go spec some games on those servers.
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<< Comment #25 @ 17:03 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By Half-Life pierow 
Why does it have shitty textures? so it doesn't artifact? Just do high quality or like picmip 10 imo
<< Comment #26 @ 17:03 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By B2L - Orange Animated NL freem1nd 
I watch twitch with VLC using LiveStreamer, and I noticed that sometimes, when there is no sound (people are camping or walking), it will start playing back sounds that could be heard a few seconds ago.

Not sure if this is due to the qlrankstv channel, or a LiveStreamer bug. Never heard it before on other twitch channels. Anyone else experience this?
<< Comment #34 @ 13:09 CDT, 20 May 2014 >>
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By Germany - Niedersachsen fKm  - Reply to #26
Same for me. It is only on the qlrankstv stream. All other streams work well with livestreamer and vlc.
<< Comment #27 @ 17:26 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic 
ins has broken it
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<< Comment #28 @ 18:18 CDT, 19 May 2014 >>
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By US-Illinois jstn 
Been sitting at the kicked from server message for over an hour now. :(
<< Comment #31 @ 09:11 CDT, 20 May 2014 >>
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By 2KBlack Yellack 
Why was it off btw?
<< Comment #32 @ 09:54 CDT, 20 May 2014 >>
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By anonymous Anonymous (159.205.233.94) 
orkl #1 qlrankstv killer
<< Comment #33 @ 11:52 CDT, 20 May 2014 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic 
that didn't last long did it
<< Comment #35 @ 14:22 CDT, 20 May 2014 >>
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By ie kajebilo 
Its back again! give quality option so it can watch on lower b
andwith!!
<< Comment #36 @ 08:54 CDT, 21 May 2014 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic 
DOWN AGAIN

Edited by sonic at 09:00 CDT, 21 May 2014
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<< Comment #38 @ 13:13 CDT, 21 May 2014 >>
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By US-Illinois jstn  - Reply to #36
Tasteless, but I approve.
<< Comment #37 @ 09:18 CDT, 21 May 2014 >>
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By bubble-bobble Arra 
noooo, down again. it was perfect last night..
<< Comment #39 @ 10:57 CDT, 22 May 2014 >>
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By Serbia bogOtac 
Kicked from server 24/7 nice
<< Comment #48 @ 14:05 CDT, 25 May 2014 >>
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By anonymous Anonymous (46.59.216.135) 
SZR ANSWER COMMENT 46 PLEASE
<< Comment #49 @ 17:44 CDT, 25 May 2014 >>
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By Germany - Bayern blau 
add a bot who always bets half of his coins to the higher elo player.
<< Comment #53 @ 05:42 CDT, 26 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom FFT 
-Add flags to the overlays, maybe the small ones during gameplay or the large one during warm up

-Let the bot hack the player's webcam to add those type of cams in the overlay like in Dreamhack and other Lan competitions.
<< Comment #54 @ 06:09 CDT, 26 May 2014 >>
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By inuyasha8 sonic  - Reply to #53
-Let the bot hack the player's webcam to add those type of cams in the overlay like in Dreamhack and other Lan competitions.

Edited by sonic at 06:09 CDT, 26 May 2014
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<< Comment #55 @ 06:23 CDT, 26 May 2014 >>
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By United Kingdom FFT  - Reply to #54
10/10 wasn't approved
<< Comment #58 @ 12:38 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>
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By Cheese M1zzu 
let twitch chat change cg_ cvars and exec vid_restart, cvar_restart and the stream cfg by voting.
Edited by M1zzu at 12:39 CDT, 13 June 2014
<< Comment #59 @ 12:47 CDT, 13 June 2014 >>
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By bloody eyeball by hatelull melechesh 
i've seen followkiller is 0

is this intentional?
<< Comment #60 @ 12:38 CDT, 14 June 2014 >>
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By Plusme Twisp.  - Reply to #59
Yea its annoying.
<< Comment #61 @ 12:51 CDT, 14 June 2014 >>
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By djogedj h8m3 
give some ops and let them restart it, been a few times ive seen it stuck on "pls finish your training" or "you're banned"

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