First, and awesome!
Hope you can jump from flag bridge to jumpad edge on Future Crossings.

Most likely with this step height.

You can, but you need speed. It's not a simple jump if you start from the flag.

Actually, if the map is the same as in Q3, you can go to the right and jump straight up.

yeah, you mean a circle jump right?

Yes one cj will make it there, barely even need a circle jump, but if you want to do it straight down the middle of the wall you will need speed, like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlR2noW2_yc

Not as much speed, one well placed prejump is enough.

yeah that should work, even in vql.

Well I was just showing the route I meant, it should definitely work :P

Someone major this.

How very boring. I so hope these are not the only ctf maps coming..

minus

Nice! Loved these threewave maps back then. Gonna be awesome to see them again. Now only missing wcp16.

CP18 \o/ :D

more old crap, just what we needed

T_T

:_(

Q_Q

take away jap castles, spider crossings, c2, etc and i will murder you...

pls can we just have the real cpm in ql, not pql

No, never. If you want CPM, please play more promode. They have a great community and that activity needs to stay alive.

In regards to adding CPM to QL, no single person owns the CPMA code, and too many hands have touched the pot to be able to properly contract/purchase any of the code. About the best we could do is to contract someone like arQon to do work on PQL to make improvements, but while he's around I haven't been able to contact him in years.

qrealka is still coming online sometimes

I was under the impression that arQon isn't a real person, merely a myth.

ur trippin brah..

hmm, w5, might be enough for me to start playing this shit!

old n boring maps :/

railyard looks cool for some 3x3 CTF, hope it's not rail only :D

I guess it is.

just wait until id puts it in maprotation, and retards playing that 2 m2 map in 8v8

Been waiting for these!

me too

Crossings... Crossings everywhere...

Future crossing and railyard is all it takes to complete perfect pub experience. Finally!

QL needs povdmm4 and endif

the amount of new CA maps is too damn low

Lovely stuff

cp18 very good 4v4 map <3

brings back some fond memories.

all we need now is w7. Thats my very last request.

How big is the ctf playerbase?

Too me it seems like quake live has too many bad maps that noone likes and too many game modes that is almost empty.

I would suggest removing maps and gamesmodes and experiment with new game modes similar to those that currently work.

How about duel and ca alternatives (since ca is popular and duel is quakes USP ) that have a more contemporary game design?



An easy way towards failure is doing updates that esr likes(new maps and cg_somethinggraphicsorlegacy ).

No problem finding ctf servers, atleast in europe.
Problem I noticed was when they added the team lock some time ago. After that it's been hard getting into games that's already started.
Not a good move imo.

But the player base is not as large as ca.

This month's ctf has been good thanks to c7, c10 and ctf4 :-o

I saw a lot more pub tdm too, assuming this activity comes from prague lan.

Also, quake streams almost everyday. I'm really happy with all of this.

btw. 12 pro keys spray on zootlive <3

q3w7 and q3wcp15 and we're all set to compete with the tdm activity

http://quake3world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=49565

It would be nice if someone could magicate something there :)

not with current ctfpickup admins

I wish they would take off the lock for map voting for 1 mode (at least) every month.

CTF used to be active in North America, now it's dead

What about BST's heatwave?

Can we at least expect the Delirium/Termnetria update?

Delirium and Terminatria update coming this Tuesday.

SyncError could you please add a grapple ctf mode with some of the old Q2ctf maps for starters? I think new and old players alike would dig it!

Hey guys, big + for new maps, of any kind, especially CTF.

I have one question for those experienced in those older q3 maps, since i didn't play them: how friendly are they for iCTF?

The biggest problem with new CTF maps that are being added in QL is that they are *absolutely* unplayable in iCTF mode.

Also, in discussions on Clan Base prior to every cup we play we always discuss new maps, but they just dont work, we tried cold cathode and fluo in pickups, but they just dont feel as the ictf map should..
so we always fall back to same old maps :(

So, were people playing those maps in insta? are they insta friendly?
If not, i would really like that map makers pay some attention to that when they create new maps.

I also downloaded new maps from maverick mapping competition:
- japanese one is way to big / complicated
- one with mega pillar - might work, not sure
- couldn't run 3rd one..

'Railyard', at least the q3 version, was one of the quintessential iCTF maps.

Also the already included Dueling Keeps worked quite well in noghost iCTF. No idea how it plays in the overall slower QL which a different spawn system, but the idea is tons of spawn frags with silly caps.

Oh, another clarification:

I was wondering are they good for 4v4 pickup/cup games?

I know that Dueling Keeps, for example is really played map, and people (some of them) enjoy it, but its totally unplayable in 4v4.

Would be way too defensive.

I've always thought iCTF should be played with at most three players per side, otherwise it doesn't really work. On the other hand other fun, simple gametypes can't be played 3v3, such as lolca.

True! Most fun and most dynamic games i played were some 3v3 on Ironworks.

Or fallout bunker, but people hate that map, because players tend to camp the flag, and ruin the game for less experienced players.

So, were people playing those maps in insta? are they insta friendly?
If not, i would really like that map makers pay some attention to that when they create new maps.

Just what is "insta friendly"?

ok, so obviously every map can be played as insta map, but as i explained in replies, are the maps suited for 4v4 pickup/competitive insta?


* you only have rail gun there, so no rocket jumps, all areas should be available by jumps / jump pads
for example on Infinity (if im not mistaken, there is approach to flag which have a wall approx players heigh, its easy to RJ there, but in insta mode you can not go to flag from there).

* unlike standard ctf, where you can stack up, get a flag, stack up more with items, even wait a bit at enemy base, this is bad tactics in insta, because other players spawn near the flag and you will be dead with one shot. What you want is to get there (with cover) get the flag, and exit as fast as possible (preferably with boost)

* for a flag carrier its bad if he has to use 5 jump pads to get home, better solution are multiple routes (high/low/side, think japanese castles, ironworks)

And stuff like that.

Many of the new maps fail for some reason, and although they are nice CTF maps they cant be played as 4v4 map, and people wont play them. And yes we tried :(

Also map makers create some really nice details, for example tall pillars with mega/power up, but since you dont have items or weapons except rail, you need map it self to be a balancing element for the teams.

Make the defending easy, but not easy enough to camp.
Make the capture easy, but still give positions to opposing team to kill you, even if thats the hard shot.
Make the spawn points on good location to prevent mid spawn-kill fest.

I hope its bit clearer now :)

So last night we played Future Crossings, and it was awesome!

In warmup i managed to do flag2bridge (easy, you go from plato in back, middle of the stars)

Also did, after few attempts high -> mid map bridge -> high, bit harder, you need decent speed and to hit the ledge on other side.

Game was really fun, and balanced, love the map!


Oh, and Railyard.. man, it was a complete frag-fest, iTDM more than iCTF :/

Railyard has been rebuilt from the ground up

Why oh why. Don't kill our memories.

Yeah, not sure if i like the new look of silly railings.

Too much wood.
Need more stone and metal imo.