as expected

another reason to ignor this event

what did you expect? not like anything changed
wcg is not about the competition, its about marketing.

Counter-Strike 1.6
Warcraft III

not sure how these 2 fit in that marketing scheme

These are to collect people to market stuff to.

CS1.6 I can understand marketing wise as kids get hyped up about what pro players are using for hardware etc. Shit ton of money potential there.

WC3... I just don't get though. Makes no sense at all

WC3 is still huge in China.

Heard that WCG is going to drop Blizzard's games so there will be only marketing then.

Seems that rumor wasn't true heh

well those two certainly stick out a bit but i guess there is still no way past cs and warcraft 3 has great appeal to the chinese...
my point is that marketing is a lot more important than competition, not that they will turn away from every title with e-sport potential

why do you keep talking about China? It will be held in S. Korea.

keep? its the first time i mention it?
and the chinese market is important no matter where its held

Not going to say that marketing is not a huge part of WCG, but QL's scope is just too small for a tournament like this. It wouldn't be possible in most countries because of the lack of LAN servers and even if id provided LAN servers, it would be pointless because players in those countries can't play the game regularly any way.

WCG is run by Koreans, any further questions?

.

:/

WCG,who cares, those bitches did enough 4 quake

Well they will have fifa and some exciting mobile games!

Fuck them.

World of Warcraft? Warcraft 3? How disconnected with reality is WCG?

I can't believe they are going to have Special Force as an official title, I just can't believe it.

Yes when you see crossfire in the list but no QL, you know they have brain cancer.

dude, when they had a tourney for Asphalt 5 (mobile game), what do you expect...

I would expect some sort of improvement over last year. Esports' still stuck in a tailspin it seems.

Yeah, adding two of the most played games in the world instead of a game with a limited playerbase is disconnecting from reality...

Might as well put Farmville and Angry Birds on that list as well, those have about the same competitive potential as WoW, and easily comparable player bases.

Yeah, because WoW doesn't have a competitive mode played by millions of people... Hate all you want, I hate WoW BGs too, but it's a competitive game and it's super popular, more than enough reasons to include it in WCG.

Except that WoW PvP is shit random garbage crap.

It's marginally random at this point. The issue isn't really dice rolls, but general class balance. The big issue is that band-aid fixes are applied on top of band-aid fixes, and they can never take off just one layer. This results in a constant circle of random FOTM classes.

In order to be balanced for competitive play, it need to be balanced in a 1v1 scenario across the board. Since Blizzard also feels that the game should work equally for both PVP and PVE (rather than having different mechanics/values for each), the game can never be properly fixed.

WoW isn't competitive. WoW is for children and somewhere in the world a child is having their fourth birthday. Guess what their present is? Popular indeed.

It's not without QL yet... You don't know. They haven't announced the full titles.


Did make me laugh how they put CS1.6 (okay good) but 2 counterstrike clone games in there. Don't really see the point. Okay, some of them are popular in Asia and they're probably going to host in Korea... but really? TWO clones?

Also made me laugh how they haven't included BW yet but WC3 has been confirmed.

They switched from BW to SC2 (source) - though, if they have CS and Special Force, I don't see why they don't have BW and SC2...

It's not like any of us really expected QL to be in the list of games at WCG. That event went down the drain some 7-8 years ago if I remember correctly.

yes u remember correctly

:>

mb thats not new, but on his formspringme acc, cooller said that there is rumors, that this is the last year for qlive, there will be no eswc qlive, esl etc

I won't be really surprised when ESL gonna drop QL for next season tbh. Quake live won't be alive much longer in terms of serious tournaments. I hope I'm wrong though :)

This game is just too elite, thus it has pretty small community = low numbers. Fucking shame.

yep:(

you're 100% right. too bad

No Quakelive = WCG blows goats for another year ...

Erm this is gonna be the best event ever 'cause http://www.anloo.se/reptile/djwheat.wav

epic LoL ....

WCG 2011 Official Game Titles

- StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty
- Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
- World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
- Counter-Strike 1.6
- League of Legends
- FIFA 11
- Tekken 6
- Crossfire
- Special Force

______________________________

I dont get it, is it ID who has little to no interest and money in ql or WCG who couldnt care less because no one really plays ql in asia ?

I DONT GET

Maybe they saw the IEM final and thought, "They just run away; this game so bad and boring to watch. Why bother."

And I agree.

Maybe they saw the SC2 final and thought, "wtf is going on?"
Maybe they saw the 1.6 final and thought, "wow this is boring"
Maybe they saw the LoL final and thought, "lol"

and what about to watch fifa games ?

More likely they just didn't bother because the Quake community is so minuscule. How many of you guys actually bought anything out of those interactive adverts? :P

Did anyone really expect any different?

WRONG.

Correct response:

:((((

WCG went from the esports olympics to a "how to sell the newest, useless junk to the masses of kids" marketing event, like 6 years ago. i dont get it what ppl really expected about quake? all it can sell is a pentium 3 computer and the MS WMO 1.1

are you trying to persuade intel stop supporting ESL?

"how to sell the newest, useless junk to the masses of kids"

So... Quake Live.

It's not without QL yet.

We've been working with WCG for quite a while now making our case. WCG is holding an internal meeting on Monday to determine how QL could be worked into the 2011 seasons. I'm sure there will be some discussion required following their meeting, but I'll let you all know how things go.

Now I'm almost excited....

Excitement can be good, but what would be great is if the QL community would continue to show their support for QL and desire by letting WCG know that they would like to see QUAKE LIVE in the WCG 2011 season:

http://twitter.com/beyondthegame

http://www.facebook.com/DiscoverWCG

http://www.wcg.com/6th/fun/news/news_view.asp?keyno=C11030410001

Let them know that QUAKE LIVE deserves a place at WCG.

bump

Good idea. Will do.

No big surprise that they dropped QL and chose one of their weird asian FPS where you have to buy better weapons with real money or something...

if still needed , make a thread will get way more attention . i didnt see ur post as many others didnt .

I agree with spartaz0rd you should really draw more attention. I posted a QL comment on that wcg fb page, but it's so far just me and one guy from March 16th. I'm not saying we should spam up the page, but we could be a bit louder than that I think. Make an announcement and post those same links.

edit: then some admin here can major it. If the community can't be here to help sustain itself by showing interest in official tournaments then just wtf are we even here for?

how the fuck can i post on the facebook page that sync linked

someone of you posted there an hour ago, but i don't see any textbox

they should buy esreality tech

you have to click "like" up at the top first. After that you'll be able to comment

You have TIME to make posts about QL in WCG, yet 8 months in and quakelive.com still have no paypal support.

What is the deal?

cant plus SyncError

'I'll let you all know how things go. '

so... update on that?

not expected. breaking news. yawn. hi@ wcg

it seems eswc without ql as well lol

This is why we can't have nice things.