fucking awesome. I'll write down the transcript as soon as I have time.

Have a [+] for transcript

truly awesome idd

partial synopsis:
noctis (pov) -vs- strenx on dm6 / zotac cup final from last summer iirc

noctis is down 6 frags and tries to come back with some nice actions, misses mh by 1 or 2 seconds out of control, does nice dmg at times - rapha says he's playing the usual way to keep out of sight (esp. with the big shaft of strenx), doing dmg without taking some and wait for a situation when mh and ra spawn at the same/close times

noctis finally lands frags/they kill each other. even if noctis is killed he can make good of it with a good spawn and strenx low. noctis is in control and manages to get even into the lead after 10 min in overtime - strenx does big dmg after almost every kill tho and the only rescue are a few very well placed rockets. rapha makes a interesting remark after a question: "strenx might be a bit inexperienced", after being asked why he doesn't do too well in situations where he has to be defensive.

rapha about noctis:
he is up there. but he is too inconsistent comparable to k1llsen who finally managed to break through this year. we have seen that noctis can be top (like in dubai/gamescom 2009) - but he practiced prly more at that time.

rapha about dm6:
liked dm6 more and more. different playstyles become visible.

rapha about hektik:
dm6 is very control-heavy and the player in control can rack'em up - till the control swaps over to the other player. hektik is much like dm6 but even more so, the out of control player has no room to hide really.

stermy vs rapha
qcon 2010
dm13 - lostworld

first map of the set

-10:00
spawn: although stermy got nice armor/health, he got no nice weapons
first kill: he played very well for the situation that was given

next kill: "if i get him low enough - while the items spawn nearly at the same time - it is my chance"
3:0 (or 2:-1) is not too bad
then he tried to stick to that side of the map (mega, ra, ya) and do dmg when i come from lgg-ya
i finally get a kill tho and try to cut him off
I'm low but i know when things are spawning and i can control the map
he may be able to run away from me now, but I achieved what I wanted and get back into the map and rack'some up

-7:15
i wanted him to not take that ya, but he knows I will leave for another item at some point and he was patient
he wanted to do some dmg, but too agressive in my opinion, a bit lucky to not take another rocket
game is tied
rapha got more control and could push more

-6:20
i must have thought he was lower than he was
he needed rockets and tried to go there when I wasn't close by (rapha @ mh/ra)
he just did so much dmg and survived with 11 hp and picks up mh after fragging rapha

-6:00
I wanted to take both ya, but I messed up with my movement
I'm kinda weak and I only have rockets, no lg
stermy takes mh and ra, but I can take ya and shards without danger
It is as if I got a red
careful he does damage here, but he is very agressive and takes much dmg from my rockets
I probably just held out to get mega time


-4:50
I'm in good position, as long as I'm in good position and do dmg first I can flip it pretty easily
As long as I keep the score down, as getting control is pretty hard sometimes
"wait and get 150 armor"
many people commit too far, impatient, just like him now, trap at ya, because I kept timing of everything

-3:15
Was stermy strongest in the 2 tournaments in summer?
"I think so, @eswc t9 should have been mine but dm13 was his"
"at qcon it was pretty close it could have gone either way but..
stermy was not at the very top, right? why do you think did he do so well - did he practice more?
"I think he worked at his dodging tbh, he did a few weired things that caught out players and did try not to make mistakes"
we all know that he comes back into this game right now but come?
"fight happened where he did enough dmg to push me away and I thought: get out, hold onto the lead - I don't exactly remember"
"here: he did so much dmg, getting out alive was just not possible, he got ra right after, he's collecting everything, I don't get any ya's"

-0:30
If any of your rockets would have hit here - would you have taken the game?
"that's a really good question, I still think he would have gotten another frag, but not the next one"
but then I do a very ballsy move!
I just knew he would do that and take advantage of it

-0:00
Thank god I've got overtime
Now I got all the weapons and he doesn't
Right now I just try to do some chip shot
I knew he was going to get the lg but I wanted to do some dmg
RIght there I pick up a frag
But I was surprised how he rushed out with sg - what happens if i shot him with rocket - he is already one down
Right here with the weird dodging - If I just hit my rockets ...
He did a good job of being just so awkward and unique
Tied again and 1 minute left
He has control but I've got a good chance to send this to another overtime
I wasn't trying to get another kill - it was too risky - only trying to even it out now
He is at mega 2nd time in a row - what I have done is getting an armor and I'm probably at 100 maybe 75 armor and I'm trying to work my way around the other one.
Successfully done without any dmg
I did pretty decent and I know the mega time because I did dmg there.
And that was my main focus going into the next overtime period.
Because most players get too nervous and forget.
So I wanted to make sure I get it. We'll see if it's a successful steal here. And judging by the way he is moving around I think it was.
So I've got mega in my hands and we're jsut about the same and it's about who has the better first attack now.
AND HE HAS. He did, he rushed in at the perfect time.

So it was that shotgun stunt that turned this map really?
"Yes, like I could have won there, got 2 frags in overtime, pushed me away, he played really well in overtime, there is much pressure - he just played better - even if it's a minute left it's really hard to get back"
You did much dmg there:
But but but ::/
Thats it thats the game I just had to go all in.

He does have a point with the SG thought his aim was off not to discredit Stermys dodge but from a statistic point of view Rapha should of won that fight.

full screen doesn't work :(

You should follow link "Go to video" under the embedded video.

Yea, I noticed it after I posted this.
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ok ,
I will play you tomorrow add me or something.
GL HF

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okie dokie

These are great. Thanks rapha/carmac :D

I'd like to hear Noctis' interpretation of Rapha's interpretation of his match.

I'd prefer noctis reaction to jamalz' interpretation of rapha's interpretation :)

strenx lost it imo. He didn't run correctly with the aim he had, all you gotta do is +back and wait with lg and its over.

Noctis hit a critical rail kill to take back the map - then a rocket fight at mega to keep it. Strenx was newb back then.

Noctis would get wtfraped if he played strenx right now though.

Rapha just makes me go 'iknorite?' when he talks cuz he says the same shit i think.

jamalz whats your nick in quakelive ?

noctis would rage quit the interview.

I've really got mixed feelings about this.

On one hand it's very good to have this on a regular basis and I'm thankfull for it and on the other hand, there were ABSOLUTELY nothing changed about cfg and all the others things esr users commented for the first episode eventhough the "sk guy" read them.

As pointless as it is, i'll repeat the most important remarks :

- 125fps, keel, "cross"hair, a little more brightness for cfg
- A pause fonction so rapha can answer all the skguy's questions without losing track of the game (he didnt even remember he fall in lava on dm13) or comment deeper on some situations.

yea i'd also like them to leave the first 2mins or so for the introduction, at the moment they talk about the maps and players during the start of the map and they miss all the action.

the idea is great but the execution is really reallly bad

It's still the "old" batch of games, so don't complain ;] they'll change it for future episodes for sure.

Yeah, it's irritating when someone doesn't read other people's comments and continues to post the same thing isn't it?

can u upload somewhere this cfg?

My sarcasm-o-meter just exploded, but maybe it was a false positive.

These were really good, not like the ones before. Good questions and more rapha talk = win!

They still need a good config for it though, but i'm impressed now. very nice! Want 1000000 more of these

Fresh Pots 2 w/ your host Jamalz?

When are we going to see you commentating on noctis?

"Ok, so here noctis clearly can't shoot LG. He needs switch to Razer keyboard and mouse so he can aim like cypher. Also he should get a haircut, because it helps you win on dm6. Clearly noctis didn't practice properly for this match, he should have played clan arena."

The only thing that noctis didn't do was use his in-between time wisely, like waited 5-6 seconds at items for them to spawn instead of trying to set up a trap or having an escape route set up in case he got jumped. Maybe this was because he couldn't hear where strenx was and was nervous as shit, I don't know. Also he didn't use grens wisely enough. Grens are great for retaking this map, especially vs shaft gaylords, since a nicely placed grenade takes away their position for them to set up an easy lg track, allowing you to jump down with a rocket in their face and fight them off.

But still, strenx fucked it up again, he kept fighting noctis with lg when he was out of control - instead of railing him first then following up with lg rush or just rocket spam... he underestimated noctis or over estimated his lg.

I'd hate to be critical, but if you're going to ask Shane about things like maps and play styles, do it before the game starts. You should still ask him those questions, but before the game starts :)

this + bind x timescale

Too many important stuff missing because the game keeps rolling.

Yes, like here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58


it is done perferctly. How it's meant to be... SK, please do the same like ESL!

c c c c aare

Would be nice if we could hear noctis' point of view on his match, despite the fact that Rapha did a good job reviewing it.

Rapha likes dm6 and Cooller likes dm6. So the brains like dm6 and the rest should had stfu!

Bring back dm6 its the best map ever! and take away dismemberment or whatever it is called.

how about "bring back new maps", like bf?

playing dm6 for ages is so boring.

ye i think t9 and bf should be back also, but i think dismemberment is a shit.
dlx don't worry cause i think u are an awesome person with a good taste for maps and a strong personality.

Dm6 is ppl favourite no matter what some pros think. Removing the favourite map is just plain wrong. It’s like an id move and therefore we shouldn’t always blame id, since we do stupid moves like this ourselves too.

And yes, new maps are good. Why we don’t keep all maps. I am sure most of the tourney players know how to play dm6, ztn, dm13, t4, t7, t9, aero and hektik. Even maybe battleforged, dismemberment and almost lost.

Dm6 is crap

I didn’t ask for the opinion of a cs +back campercunt like you. I know there is no place to hide in dm6, but that doesn’t make it a crap map. Keep your shity opinions for the ql forums.

I don’t care for what you think about quake, life or anything else.

Q.Q?

I don’t care for what you think about quake, life or anything else.

Why the rage and hate then :D?


btw. still crap

You said it, bring back t6!

*put some random rage here*

geez, it's 9am... have a bratwurst or something

geez? i mean, GEEEZ WTF they produced 3 videos, 3 videos with this fucking config. EVERY TIME ppl said "OMG change it, change it now or i will call agent to kill everyone", and every time they ignore this? i even cant understand why rapha doesnt say anything!

ppl who dont know quake think this is a joke.

People who don't know Quake won't watch it anyway. Sure it would be nice if it was changed, but it's watchable imo especially considering the purpose of the video. So for now, I'll buy it that it's just the "old batch" of videos and that they'll change it for future releases. I really love the concept of pro's analyzing games. The should be more of that.

Also: "Dm6 is all shaft map."
"No. It is not."

I know plenty people who watched ESL classics with rapha and haven't played quake yet.

Not sure about Fresh Pots tho.

You know you could try reading the fucking replies for the older threads.
Or is that too difficult?


I personally find it idiotic that people DEMAND that already finished work should be thrown away, instead of being published for free.


So how about this: You get of your lazy ass, take the demo, record a new video and add the existing audio track. It will be exactly as much work as it would be for SK and you obviously have no problem demanding it from them.

And don't you dare to ignore this simple request from me! OMG.

ye lets play dm6 20 years because this map is "finished work"

to your suggestion: ill try it. i never recored videos nor do i know how i get audio track of existing video. But ill give it a try!

EDIT1: Downloaded videos
EDIT2: Extracted Audio from Video
EDIT3: Looking for demo with noctis pov
EDIT4: Ceating video of noctis pov, atm video file is too fucking big :((

First you start shouting in capslock about them releasing an existing video for free. the you bring this bad analogy

ye lets play dm6 20 years because this map is "finished work"

and want me to stfu.


nice.

but I wish you success on the video conversion, I can recommend virtualdub for making an avi from the screenshots. ;)
as for getting the audiotrack, you can normally just put the video in adboe premiere and it shold offer you to use the audio. I think you can rip it in virtualdub, too though.

i thought you argued like "oh well, dm6 is finished work, lets play it for ages!!!" my fault i misunderstood this :(

i didnt say they should throw it away, i just wondered (raged) why they not change it. I didnt know they already done 6 videos and just publish it now. Anyway like Carsomyr said, you better inform (just ask rapha what he thinks about it!) before your produce 6 videos with that horroble config.

bleh, now i read comments on sk-gaming :((

theslash also made several replies about that in the first news here on esr and it was repeated in later posts, so I thought it was kind of difficult ot miss ;)

ye but i missed it! :E

Oh well, shit happens :)

need noctis pov demo. there is a demo on esr but its not the same like in the video of sk, it is a mix, not a good idea to take it!

http://www.fragster.de/cmy/download/13/demos-...vs-strenx/

dunno if thats the same as on esr or not

even if it isn't, at least we might catch rapha getting something wrong :D

by clicking download nothing happens, the new fragster site is buggy, can someone upload this? thx a lot!

try this site, it's buggy, too, and full of cunts but also has tons of demos. link

It says noctis' pov in the filenames, so maybe it's the right one.

oh lawl

alright i thought this was some german sarcasm but it appears that you are actually serious

they already produced 6 or more videos before the first one was even released so it doesnt matter how many times ppl complained, there won't be a different config until they make new videos.

oh damn :((

hey

can you give dlx your demo? =]

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2004257#pid2004257

deleted most of my demo folder not too long ago, dont think i have it

rofl :D

u really do dislike yermans :(

hehe i agree.
Use the ESL or lvl config.

I understand that you made all the videos before someone semi-intelligent could inform you that they looked like shit, BUT … Is it really that hard to just remake the videos from the same POV and put the old sound on them? Because every time I see one of these I'm shocked at how bad they look.

dlx is doing it. maybe you can help him. or just make the upcoming 3 movies. mkay? thx!

I think dm6 should be gone, and ztn should be gone. These maps give a huge advantage to veteran players.

"I think dm6 should be gone, and ztn should be gone. These maps give a huge advantage to veteran players. "

In fact they are all veterans players....

Most of them play duel since at least 4 years (and even more).

Bring back dm6, get rid of ztn.

nowai! :D

I don't know about you guys?!?! but I demand much higher quality free shit than this!!!

I love these fresh pots with rapha. I am with Q for 10years, rapha is truly brilliant.

'a zotac dm6 game between Austria Richard "noctis" Gansterer and France Kevin "strenx" Baeza'

Fail

why? o:

hint: fail between words `between` and `noctis` :)

Common typo, I forgive them.

hint:
dm6
zotac
strenx

I see the concept of 32 bit colour still evades you.

nice picture of stermy and rapha at the end. where did u get that from?
:)

In pavel-vs-killsen demo there are links to coller's commentary.

Not like post-fact commentary when you see and analyze the game 20 times and then get it on tape, but

Life commentary with proper actions, and therefore mistakes done.


Cooller was commenting about

not what was done
but
what needs to be done
and
what was done wrong and why

He also commented on hesitation and lacks of skill in pavel to insue hilarity, but this is beside the point.

What Rapha needs to do is to watch the game and tell HIS course so that people would see what proper actions are (according to papa rapha) and what kept the player from achieving best possible results.


In other words, instead of doing autopsy, how about some fitness?

In other words, instead of doing autopsy, how about some fitness?

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