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MLG DC Starcraft 2 Day 2 (113 comments)

( Major News: SC2)

Posted by Slasher @ 14:10 CDT, 15 October 2010 - iMsg

Major League Gaming's DC event is here featuring an impressive lineup for it's second Starcraft 2 tournament.

MLG Raleigh champion

TL.HuK is here to defend his title, along with several other players from Raleigh including

root.KiWiKaKi,

EG.LzGaMeR,

root.qxc,

TL.Tyler (NonY),

EG.Machine,

fnatic.TTOne, and

EG.iNcontroL. Three first-time MLG players who look to do well are

EG.IdrA who's here before he starts GSL Season 2, and

White-Ra &

TL.ret to represent Europe. Brackets will be released right before the event goes live.

Like last event, all matches will have commentary by

Day9 and

JP, but this time will also have the addition of

djWHEAT.

HD and

Husky are not in attendance.

The live stream can be found on the front page of MGLPro.com all weekend. The schedule is below, with the finals taking place Saturday night. Those wanting to come down to the event and watch and can do so for free at the Gaylord National Resort and Convention Center just outside DC.

Schedule

Links: SC2 Brackets, SC2 Stream

Edited by Slasher at 08:16 CDT, 16 October 2010 - 25406 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 14:21 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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pks

Tell the folks at MLG to drop WoW and pick up Quakelive.

<< Comment #2 @ 14:31 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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gra!n3 - Reply to #1

this

<< Comment #3 @ 14:34 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #2

Our very own @djWHEAT (casting SC2) and @Slasher (doing promo) will be onsite at #MLG D.C. Good luck guys!

<< Comment #5 @ 14:44 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #1

Pretty sure competitive WoW is going to be dead after the expansion launches, so we can hope!

<< Comment #6 @ 14:55 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #5

... why? If anything, it looks to be an improvement over the travesty that was WOTLK.

<< Comment #11 @ 15:32 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #6

Blizzard don't care about arena anymore, they are moving the focus to BGs. There's no way 10v10+ will take off with this kind of event.

<< Comment #12 @ 15:39 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #11

While many talents are certainly BG-friendly, the normalization of most stats and damages will help PVP in all forms. Hell, 2v2 and 3v3 might actually be more than just FOTM brackets.

<< Comment #13 @ 15:41 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #12

Well I was talking more about their own plans than actually changes. I don't think they are going to do much balancing and shit around arena and just leave it, because BGs suit the game better and caters to a larger crowd. IMO that's great, considering playing again a bit after launch.

<< Comment #14 @ 15:47 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #13

The normalization of stats will make it more balanced on a 1v1 basis, so balance issues should be less of a problem as the size of the group scales upward. I prefer BGs as well, but I don't see arenas as being totally ignored by this.

I've gotten my hopes up about the balance promises since the very beginning, and they've always been shot down at expansion launch, so it's entirely likely that they'll find some way to screw it up again. =X

Edited by vedic at 15:47 CDT, 15 October 2010

<< Comment #83 @ 17:04 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #1

WOW is decent enough. They should remove the console games, playing with f*cking joypads.

<< Comment #4 @ 14:35 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Vium

why this sc2 garbage, its half the game sc1 is.

<< Comment #7 @ 15:10 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #4

we watch this because of day9

<< Comment #8 @ 15:12 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #4

Nada disagrees with you, and I'm pretty sure he knows just a tad bit more about the game than you do.

<< Comment #9 @ 15:19 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #8

It's still boring to watch.

<< Comment #10 @ 15:22 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #9

This comes down to opinion, just as people find BW boring to watch.

<< Comment #15 @ 16:16 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #10

I think it was ix who made a point about some flashy mechanics (no pun) which made the original highly entertaining and the absence of them in sc2. Perhaps they will emerge, or maybe I should start playing sc2 to appreciate the game more.

<< Comment #16 @ 16:22 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #15

http://replayfu.com/r/0q9WD

It's not the game, it's been the players. Things are shaping up.

Edited by vedic at 16:23 CDT, 15 October 2010

<< Comment #41 @ 06:24 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #16

video?

<< Comment #48 @ 10:18 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #41

buy the game =P

<< Comment #82 @ 16:46 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #15

I thought it's boring and not good to watch a few months ago as well. Now i'm enjoying watching sc2 more than sc1. ;p

<< Comment #17 @ 16:25 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

By

xou

Brackets link?!

<< Comment #19 @ 16:31 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Slasher - Reply to #17

Ugh whoops, I swear I put it there: http://www.mlgpro.com/ci/brackets/procircuit/10/dc/sc2/open

<< Comment #18 @ 16:31 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Slasher

UPDATE: Ocotoshape having some issues, event scheduled to start at 5:45 PM EST/23:45 CEST - Will be streamed at http://events.mlgpro.com/takeovers/procircuit..._id=mlgpro

<< Comment #20 @ 16:33 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #18

What does id software has to do with Octoshape? o_O

Edited by p4r4 at 16:34 CDT, 15 October 2010

<< Comment #21 @ 17:00 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #18

ugh, needs a livestream already

<< Comment #22 @ 17:15 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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ummmm, delayed again ?

<< Comment #23 @ 17:18 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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JayDee_

Nice, ESRs coverage of events is always infinitely better than TL's. I would say that on TL, but I would likely be banned by some 17 year old.

<< Comment #24 @ 17:57 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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stream not working for anyone else?

<< Comment #25 @ 18:08 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Inane

stream is working but it's still waiting to kick off with Ret vs Machine(or NonY? irc is confusing me atm) in 13 minutes
stole this VLC link from TL's IRC (cause my browser goes herpaderp) http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms2/0/0MediaPlayer+0+/mlg.600c/mlg600c/

cannot wait!!

also... pick up QL already MLG :(

Edited by Inane at 18:13 CDT, 15 October 2010

<< Comment #26 @ 18:21 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Wow that is some terrible fucking video quality. It's like they've added a cell-shade graphic mod.

<< Comment #27 @ 18:31 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #26

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3522/mlgq.png

This is their HD quality.

<< Comment #28 @ 18:33 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Roswell47 - Reply to #27

Looks exactly like the normal stream.

<< Comment #29 @ 18:43 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #28

SD
HD

<< Comment #30 @ 18:45 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #28

its got some sharpen filter on it, any tard can enable it and make it look like wank. no idea why MLG is doing it but.... they did.

<< Comment #43 @ 06:46 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #30

It makes real people look pretty good, I guess that's why they use it.

Edited by f0rk123 at 06:48 CDT, 16 October 2010

<< Comment #44 @ 07:10 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #43

ye just like ESL does with their streams, when u see people its like oh hey this looks quite nice and sharp, and then they show the game and PIXELS EVERYWHERE OMG BORK BORK

<< Comment #33 @ 19:36 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #27

LOL

<< Comment #47 @ 09:44 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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imhotep - Reply to #27

lolda

<< Comment #35 @ 19:54 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (62.202.14.234)

is the video quality of this free stream intended? I mean, seriously.. haven't seen such crap quality in years.

<< Comment #31 @ 18:51 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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vedic

Well, it was almost worth watching when I found an HD restream on livestream, but the quality is so shit that I just won't bother.

<< Comment #32 @ 19:28 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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pks

You know I might dislike the game selection from MLG but their tournaments look really really well done.

<< Comment #34 @ 19:45 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Why did Idra get a random seed?

<< Comment #36 @ 19:57 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #34

I think it has to do with the MLG rank point system which carried over from the last tournament.

<< Comment #37 @ 20:28 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

By

FishStix

You just can't beat Day9 and djWHEAT together. SO pro.

<< Comment #38 @ 21:45 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Slasher

Due to the amount of complaints regarding the HD stream, MLG has upped the quality from 1.6 mb to 2.2 mb. You need to be able to support at least a 2.5mb stream for this to work properly. The people here at MLG know about the complaints to both the HD and SD stream and are doing what they can to get things moving. http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/315565/SC2...-to-2-2-mb

HuK vs Gretorp is live now, with White-Ra vs Kiwikaki up next as the final match of the day. I will be giving away those HD codes to a few lucky people soon.

<< Comment #39 @ 22:34 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

By

uNhoLeee

I still have no idea what occurs in this game.. somehow doesn't detract from it at all. Tuned in at the right time, nice game.

<< Comment #42 @ 06:40 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #39

english commentary really helps here.. especially in matches where the difference between winning and losing is just a nuance

anyway, the more things i learn about this game, the more mindblowing/exciting it gets

can't wait for GSL Season #2.. i'd buy premium if i'd have a job atm :D

<< Comment #40 @ 22:37 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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Why exactly are so many gaming events held in gaylord facilities?

<< Comment #45 @ 08:05 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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CLains - Reply to #40

basement areas of football fields

<< Comment #46 @ 08:43 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Slasher

The Day 2 pre-game show is going live in 5-10 minutes. ALL replays (500+) from Day 1 have been uploaded under the 'Match Info' of each match on the bracket page: http://www.mlgpro.com/ci/brackets/procircuit/10/dc/sc2/open/

The first match of the day will be SeleCT (T) vs LzGaMeR (T) in the loser's bracket, then IdrA (Z) vs qxc (T) in the winners bracket. Will be giving away more HD coupons for the rest of today, and for the MLG Dallas Finals.

For those of you on Reddit, I've created a post for today's day 2 stream: http://www.reddit.com/tb/ds1jx/

Watch all the action at: http://events.mlgpro.com/takeovers/procircuit..._id=mlgpro

<< Comment #49 @ 10:21 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

Players dropped trolololol

Remember people. We're moving into the future. No need for LAN support on any new games

<< Comment #52 @ 10:22 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #49

Or just get internet that doesn't fail. Can't expect much with how amateur the streaming has been.

<< Comment #53 @ 10:23 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #52

What doesn't fail on the internet? That's a stupid excuse for NOT having LAN support

<< Comment #54 @ 10:25 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #53

LAN tourney clients are on the way, but there's no excuse for shoddy internet. If you can't get a dedicated connection, you shouldn't be hosting a tourney to begin with.

<< Comment #55 @ 10:38 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #54

For everybody? What if I want to play with a buddy at my house at LAN latency?

<< Comment #57 @ 10:42 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #55

Non-issue, unless you're just too poor for internet. That being the case, you probably shouldn't be spending $50 on SC2, and $500 on a computer to run it.

<< Comment #59 @ 10:46 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #57

So I'll be able to play on LAN latency with a buddy if I have an internet connection?

<< Comment #62 @ 10:57 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #59

Non-issue.

<< Comment #64 @ 10:58 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #62

How is that non-issue? I want to play with a friend at better latency (just like it was possible in scbw).

<< Comment #65 @ 11:00 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #64

It was more necessary in SCBW, but it isn't anymore. Do you have a problem with the netcode that hasn't been reported?

<< Comment #68 @ 12:25 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #65

Are you going to try to tell me there is no difference between LAN latency and internet play?

<< Comment #69 @ 12:41 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #68

Have you played SC2 on lan?

<< Comment #70 @ 12:47 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #69

Of course not. Surely you aren't going to base your argument on that.

<< Comment #72 @ 12:59 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #70

You're acting like it's needed, when it isn't. SC2 netcode is just fine, unless you have played it on LAN, and have some inside info on how significant it is.

<< Comment #73 @ 13:15 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #72

So you're telling me bnet will always be at least as good as LAN?

<< Comment #74 @ 13:18 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #73

No, I'm saying that it marginal, especially if you're playing someone in the same house.

<< Comment #98 @ 09:58 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #74

If I'm playing another person in my home, thanks to playing on bnet my ping will be 40 instead of 5.

<< Comment #99 @ 15:44 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #98

What would be wrong with 40?

<< Comment #100 @ 15:53 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #99

Well, I don't know.. it's significantly more than 5?

<< Comment #105 @ 18:07 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #100

and your have both tested 40 and 5 ping in SC2, and noted that 5 is better than 40?

<< Comment #107 @ 02:25 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #105

and your have both tested 40 and 5 ping in SC2, and noted that there is no difference?

<< Comment #111 @ 07:25 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #107

I don't have to, since online play is smooth.

<< Comment #112 @ 09:28 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #111

and your have both tested 40 and 5 ping in SC2, and noted that there is no difference?

<< Comment #113 @ 09:37 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #112

I don't need to, since online is perfectly fine. If you could somehow show that LAN latency made a significant improvement on what is already perfectly smooth gameplay, it would be worth discussing.

Latency has never been the argument against the central server model, and it never will be.

<< Comment #75 @ 14:03 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Trance - Reply to #57

Seriously your argument is fail. LAN support should be implemented by default. "Get better" internet isn't a valid point.

<< Comment #77 @ 15:11 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #75

If I can get sufficient internet in america, you can get it anywhere.

<< Comment #78 @ 16:02 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #77

Vedic: Thinking a 4-port router hooked up to a modem is the same as an event using multiple 24+ port switches and cisco 2800's.

LOL OKAY

<< Comment #80 @ 16:05 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #78

This was about sufficient internet for playing in your home. You're talking about networking, not specifically internet access. Of course, internet won't even matter if you don't know how to set up a network.

<< Comment #84 @ 17:32 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #80

People are always looking to attack and exploit networks. Hardware can fail in terms of networking. Tons of shit can happen. I've seen EIGRP just shit its self for no reason at all.

tl;dr you probably know nothing of networking

<< Comment #85 @ 17:35 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #84

I don't see what you're trying to argue. You seem to be somewhat agreeing, while discussing something that has nothing to do with the conversation.

My 2+ years of freelance networking would like a word with you, though.

<< Comment #101 @ 16:04 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #85

freelance networking = setting up wlans for grandmas

<< Comment #104 @ 18:06 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #101

lan centers, actually.

<< Comment #56 @ 10:40 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #54

Perhaps you should tell that to (every) event that has had delays and net-downs in the last year.

Might take you a while

<< Comment #58 @ 10:43 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #56

Like I said - amateurs shouldn't be running a tourney.

<< Comment #66 @ 11:07 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #58

Who said anything about amateurs? Every tournament that's every been on recently without LAN support has had a hiccup in one way or another. I guess everyone's a naab.

<< Comment #67 @ 11:08 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #66

They're amateurs.

<< Comment #71 @ 12:48 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #67

vedic delivers.

<< Comment #81 @ 16:27 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #52

what about the risk of attacks, do you remember the situation at iem world finals? same shit can happen to anyone

<< Comment #96 @ 07:08 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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kaliberr44 - Reply to #81

why do even people try to help this idiot?

He can't argue and even when he is dead wrong he will argue just for a sake of argue.

One day he was funny with his stupidity like Jamerio. But Vedic seems to be only pathetic nowadays. Nothing more then a wall of text and a despaired cry for shot in the head.

<< Comment #102 @ 16:05 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #96

he's just creaming all over sc2, as usual.

<< Comment #50 @ 10:21 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Aquashark '

what the fuck?? hey blizzard you already sold 4-5 million copies, add LAN support ffs

Edited by Aquashark at 10:23 CDT, 16 October 2010

<< Comment #51 @ 10:22 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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p4r4

All id software's fault

<< Comment #60 @ 10:49 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

By

What happened?

<< Comment #61 @ 10:50 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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wata

that's with patch 1.1.2 ?

<< Comment #63 @ 10:58 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #61

Yes. You can't play without patching, so it's not like a tourney can run on an older version.

<< Comment #76 @ 14:53 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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mar-

Cooller!!!

<< Comment #79 @ 16:04 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

"to use the second entrance, like we all like"
:D

<< Comment #86 @ 17:42 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

By

LOL "thats halo, don't worry"

<< Comment #109 @ 03:17 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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deji - Reply to #86

This will be fun to say on ladder games when playing as toss :]

<< Comment #87 @ 17:48 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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kevz

lol huk, lan hero :>

<< Comment #88 @ 17:51 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

:D so cool and yet so lame to go down without giving your best

<< Comment #89 @ 17:52 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #88

totally worth it

<< Comment #90 @ 18:03 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

He practically gave that mothership away

<< Comment #91 @ 18:30 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

did idra just win with doing the exact same build in every single game?
still an awesome sc2 night

<< Comment #94 @ 19:39 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #91

I think it was different per match up, but pretty much.
He's obviously a great player, the kiwikaki games showed how his boring repetition style does have adaptability, but the game would be terrible to watch if everyone played like him.

<< Comment #92 @ 18:43 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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lolvc

gg

<< Comment #93 @ 18:58 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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pks

Is there a better SC2 fansite then Team Liquid? Seriously some of the comments there are just absolutely retarded. I mean ESR isn't much better but atleast you guys can sniff through the bullshit.

"Let's be honest. Huk threw that game knowingly. Sure, he could've lost, but he could've won too. Select had come so far and Huk felt that he was going to give Select a shot at what he's been working so hard for. I have huge respect for Huk for doing something like that and can't wait to see Select pull out the cards on Idra. It's a fucking disney story!"
~ typical team liquid comment

Edited by pks at 18:59 CDT, 16 October 2010

<< Comment #95 @ 20:33 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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vedic - Reply to #93

The only real alternative is gosugamers, but they're nowhere near the activity of TL.

You should only really visit TL for stream info, or liquipedia.

<< Comment #103 @ 16:07 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #95

i secretly wish they had an option for posting anonymously.

reading a thread on tl.net makes me cringe.

<< Comment #110 @ 06:52 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (109.129.83.246) - Reply to #93

Its funny, I've just come from reading that thread and 95% of replies are positive about Huks mothership rush.

People lwith mindsets like yours are what makes reading comments a frustrating experience at times.

Cool game, cool tourney, looking forward to GSL2 tomorrow

<< Comment #108 @ 02:32 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #93

The mods over there at TL are fucking laughable.

Never mind the comments. That should be the least of your worries. The mods on the other hand...

<< Comment #97 @ 09:50 CDT, 17 October 2010 >>

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Naghokez

Any VODs?

<< Comment #106 @ 01:19 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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uNhoLeee

agreed, fell asleep during the finals, any vods?

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