always thought he was german? o_0

yeah me too

asked PerpetualWar, he is from spain but has been living in germany for quite a while

and germans are ok with this?

I heard they got some camps planned.

I guess it's not a regular bootcamp?

A gaming bootcamp turns into a gas chamber eventually.

After loads of pizzas and redbull, sure! A man's gotta fart right?

Talk about ego tripping, seriously...

I used to play with you in q3 and u were fine but hardly a standard to live up to

where exactly is the ego trip?

look at me i play for 4k and i have my own website explaining basic tacs any semi decent tdm player would already know.

Maybe its really meant to be educational for the newbies but the website does kinda scream 'hi i'm dk and i'm glorious"

kinda like you scream 'hi i'm eri and i'm a bitter has-been'?

lol, dont confuse me with your esr wannabe famous ambition.

Well you sure sound like 'hi i'm eri and i'm a bitter has-been'?

Well I don't even know who you are, so in my head I value dk's input on tdm tactics a lot more than your babbling about jealousy :>

thats that.

ppl see what they wanna see.. just ignore? its enough resources for ya all on this earth dont need war

I don't see the problem with it eri, i think hes just trying to help people and to be fair to cris, hes been around as long as anyone he knows what hes talking about. And it's not like 4Kings is the way it used to be when Intel sponsored em so i really don't think hes got an ego about that at all.

Anyway much love cris ya bawbag, good luck with ur website :)

Well fair enough, i dont rly expect him to be the type who will seek attention

But the website just seems very basic and hence comes across as a way for seeking attention. At least to me.

Maybe i need to look at it more from a total newbs pov

Yeah. i know ur normaly not like this at all so..but DK is just trying to help.

the best of 4k was before intel sponsored them

Wouldn't say i disagree with you... But none understands how much Intel were giving 4K back in the day.

true, it was ALOT

can't agree with you more, at first I even thought this was a huge joke :)

gwahahaha

butthurt much?

explanation ?

Why should it be a huge joke when a renowned oldschool tdm player gives tips about tdm?

His project certainly stirred some emotions up in you, if u suddenly start bragging about your victories with miel (although you were the worst player tbh, always getting carried by your teammates).

I'm not bragging about anything, this isn't about me but the ego of the players running this website. I have my opinion about dk and dash performances for all these years, that's about it. Don't make it personal.

do you remember when 'do the dk' happened? :d i don't think he's ego-tripping.

how do i search for clanwars on clanbase?

DO THE DK!!!

hahaha :D dkdkdkdkddkkdkdk

This is awesome.

No, seriously. It is. It can be very helpful for the new and mediocre players, which servers are full of.

I'm also more than glad to see that some people are still willing to dedicate their time and knowledge to produce quality content that the players actually need*.

* - as opposed to ID Software.

Great! But I'm still waiting for the "That's how you do it" Duel Tactics By dkt.

didnt he retire after failing at quakecon?

maybe lack of oxygen

No he is retarded. Not retired.

and ghostwritten by Chance ofc.

Seems like pretty basic stuff, but haven't we seen most of this guide before? http://cyberfight.org/offline/strategy/25/

Also, the English on the site needs to be cleaned up. Hopefully Chance can help him with that.

you need a better site (graphically) that's for sure, but gl with it and nice initiative! I hope you keep working on it! :)

I like the project. If I can help you with anything dk - just ask :)
No wait, you already did xD

whats it with the Germans and "xD"

Holy fucking SHIT you are not 13

errrrrrrr what contingent u wanted to see on a gaming forum

xD

knulla?

lets dothedk :D

chance giving tdm advice? ;p no offense to chance, but he's hardly a tdm expert

lol, nevermind. it's the bible ;D

that is one sexy website
surely spent several minutes on it?

Hi there outlaws ! *by dash
"I’m an active professional teamplayer of the first person shooter series Quake."

I lol'd.

Well, it's only about what you call professional. Gamer who do gaming for living, which is hardly even exist in the quake scene, or a player who plays the game on a professional level. No need for french trollin this time. It's a well meaning project for beginners (like you) and ppl who are into the world of TDM.

Ignore it.
He's just showing he's a sad bastard.

I'll help you unity. You are awesome dude! You really are a great tdm player. Maybe you can chill now?

The day your team beats mine you will be able to say that I'm a beginner. To my knowledge, it never happened for all these years you've been playing.

4K & FRONT are definitely good teams but you and your team mates building up this website didn't contribute at all to their success. 4K is being carried by krysa & zik, and FRONT by abso. Too bad those players didn't take part in this project, that would have made it way more interesting.

While abso is my teammate and a beast of a player, I doubt his input on what to do in TDM would be very useful for beginners:

"And on this map I shoot 40% lg and 65% rail for the win, np".

:]

You are lack of knowledge ; ). Since you think a team of 4 individual players could carried by one single player, you'll definitely need dothedk.com : ))

Could be or not, but why is it important if someone is top notch or just good or oldschool or whatever. In the end I dont know how well dk or the other authors play but I expect they might play well enough to give a hint or two to the fraction of the players that eventually started recently or try hard for years without much success.

Beside I agree: Might be a big ego trip most likely, but hey, I dont mind =)

People who try for years should probably face it that they suck :x

unity, then I'm gonna say that all your life u was carried by linkin. And, yes, I expect "and u by cooller" part from u too :D haha

I don't think you're getting carried by cooller anymore. But again, you're making it personal, you obviously missed the point : it's not about me. The overall tone and writing style makes those players look like professionals, when they're not.

May be I'm not right, cos I did't read the site. I just want more love in quake community, that's all. I'm tied of reading comments like this...

u said about krysa or zik but i would rather say that JoCKo got the most TDM experience with some nice leadership :) but yea in your case its:
"One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all"

go chase your rabbits :D

Page needs some work.

:D

A lot of crying tdm stars in this thread. Omg dk is trying to look important, but I'm so much more interesting then him! I want attention too. cry cry cry.

Sure looks like it.

yeah n1 think dk.

Nice initiative, too bad noone can check their spelling.

Well, reactions by some top tdmers here are understandable. Tdmers dont get enough community attention. They too wanna be appreciated for their skills.

That said i like the site. Don't care really about website styling. Nor spelling. At this point i think we are already used reading everything even remotely resembling English.

Content is what matters. I very much appreciated that dm14 article.

I agree completely.

I agree with you agreeing.

agreed :)

Understandable? Maybe..., but they start whining because they think the people that made a nice iniative are egotripping.
And it's 'understandable' because TDM doesn't get much attention? This only means their egos are a lot bigger then the guys who decided to something constructive for new and not so experienced TDM players.

Troll is what troll does. Its trolling that counts, not the issue or a reason for it. They went for ego tripping but they could as well used anything else to bitch about site's initiative and writers. You most probably are spot on about their egos. But its esreality. Trolling happens on hourly bases :)

wat

super great for the (non-existant?) tdm scene for qlive, especially for people who just started to play or for people like me who'd like to look into the whole tdm stuff

first time I ever heard of tdm and how it's played were the James&Joe ESL casts from ENC

really, i mean really, why would you criticize that content for not-being aimed at top-tier players? as soon as you hit midskill you have to learn that stuff on your own via watching demos/playing

PLAY MORE QLIVE TDM!

"PLAY MORE QLIVE TDM! "

dont be so harss on ppl : ((

you could learn tdm from demos, shame id fucked that up. no wonder there aren't enough new players.

like there is anything else to TDM than holding the RA

thats what all cpmers(failers) think

yes tdm very tactical only basic guide in dk dm14 map learning guide its very much more tactical shoot rail there kill enemy hard tactics :D take ra go there jump up and down dodge rocket :P rail and tactical hehee :D

1. Have good aim
2. Camp the area with the most armor/health with someone standing at each entrance
3. Stay away from said area or only attack in unison if enemy has it locked down
4. Turn up for powerup
5. PROFIT

don't play tdm down, you might have found a point, but you could even summarize ctf that way (player 1 camps flag and RA/MH, player2 camps base, player 3 camps mid and sometimes supports player4 who rj's around enemy base)


to me it seems you ignore maps other than dm14/dm7


I'm neither ctf'er nor tdm'er, but look at other maps (I personally like dm6 in 4v4 and find dm6 a good counter example with lg, rail and rocket control)

rox control is a part of the RA control on dm6

Well on the paper u are good tdmer, but it's not true :D

TDM in a nutshell.

KROGOCIANKA!

first of all thanks to all those who appreciate this site.
but thanks aswell to those who are whining around here.
its really nice that u are that interested in that !
jealousy is the biggest form of acceptance :-)))) thank you so much !

lets start with eri !
u know me ? cool ! :)
and yes you got me ! that was my plan getting famous with a quakelive TDM site !!!
sitting here at home in front of a pc and writing quakelive articles at the weekend !!!
thats my plan getting famous and rich ... ah no i forgot i am already rich.. i am in 4K !!! ole ole :-))

yes ghost written by chance.. why should he write everything new ?
i asked him to use his articles and thats it... whats the problem ? tell me ! really... tell me ! im interested in it !
i doubt chance will write more but since it is nice basic stuff i added this. u can adapt this duel things to TDM.

yikes ! thanks for the post.. will see if i can get some ideas on that site. we will have less work then ;)
and another cool thing is -> its impressive that you noticed that !
but u understand everything what i wrote in english as it seems ! but if you care THAT much...
what about doing a proof read and give me the correct version or better the correct version for the community ?
thanks .. mail at dothedk.com
i will wait for it !

just a little info for all who dont read.
i am happy if someone is up to help. its to be honest pretty much time to spend in. the site isnt done yet and wont be ready in the next few weeks / month. the plan is starting with the basic shit and expanding it from time to time... more help = faster done.
so if you dont like it.. just ignore it... some people are happy with it.

As said u lot probably just genuinely wish to help newer people and that's commendable.

It's just the naming of the whole thing that is a bit "strange" .
I suspect most people who are kinda sceptical/negative in this thread would have a far more moderate reaction if u had just named it www.quakeguide.com or something

Of course it is for newer or "lower" players.

well... i think much more important is the content... and im really happy that some people like it so i will go on with it.

and as zealot or dave aswell... it has nothing to do with egotripping... this has to be enough as an answer

thats my plan getting famous and rich ... ah no i forgot i am already rich.. i am in 4K !!! ole ole :-))

Very humble.

It's called sarcasm....

Even if it's meant to be sarcastic it's not appropriate.

"...and one of the most entertaining guys in the Quake scene mr foppa :-)."

God I love this part!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtTb2DZwR4c <- It's me, I'm not joking! :D

You are a decent clown, would not call you the most entertaining guy tho.

Well, and u are boring nerd :) would not call you the most entertaining geek tho.

You are so pathetic you don't even realize how stupid you look in each of your post.

Well I rather be stupid but happy, then smart and sad nerd like you.

If being that stupid doesn't make you sad, good for you.

isnt a clown entertaining ? :-)

Just said he wasn't the most entertaining one. :>

Geeks like u never realise, how fun and entertaining are u for normal ppl :D

Seriously if you don't have anything to say beside "MAGIC MIRROR" shut the fuck up.

Ok, I gtfo. I'm almost bored of u anyway :D

nice initiative dk.

Good luck with the site!

If people played tdm as much as they whine on esreality about random nonsense we might actually have a community. so many shitties.

reality reminder: usa has no tdm scene

are there any ctf guides?

i dont know what to say

Nice initiative for new clans and players! We really could use some nice tactic thinking as it seems like the UT tacs doesnt work that well in QL :P

Having read a couple of pages of the Quake Bible, I'm pretty sure that chance has been studying psychology.

Everything I Do, Is... Entertainin You! <- Must be my signature for sure!

gl dk! I claim the copyrights!
dothedkdothedkdothedk

weeeeeee dkdkdkdkdk <3 <3

@ eri unitty and rest - GTFO idiots, your the ego tripping players ...

At least we have enough balls to show our initial thoughts while being logged in :P

To make it clear, I have nothing against players, no matter their skills, genuinely helping the community by sharing their experience and knowledge about the game. But the way they introduced themselves, eg 'I'm a professional player' by dash, or listing all teams dk played in (especially when some of them are debatable) to make them look like 'pros' make it look like an ego tripping act.

which teams exactly are 'debatable'? :p

A ex clan member of xyz informed unity and me that dk was never in xyz for example

'for example' :p

i'm not sure about xyz to be honest (didn't he play there with redemz?) and i don't remember what one! was about at all (also ctf?).

for most of the other teams i can say that i played either with or against him and i can't see how anyone could claim the list was 'debatable' in any way.

When an confirmed ex member tells me so i'm inclined to believe it ;)

One is a very old ctf clan, with like ranger and people in it, dates right back to the iqs - cn days.

Personally i cant imagine him ever being in aAa considering how much kazu hates germans but i could be wrong

By S.T.A.L.K.E.R Valvalis +++' - Reply to #37
His project certainly stirred some emotions up in you, if u suddenly start bragging about your victories with miel (although you were the worst player tbh, always getting carried by your teammates).

i think this post hit it !

unity got informed !
unity are u kidding me.. are u really trying to find out now if i played in a team or not ? shall we call u sherlock holmes now ? hahaha.. i cant find words for this.. you are really pathetic.

get better informations next time.
has this xyz member aswell a name ?
if i remember right violator, martel, redemz vertex and some other guys ( cant remember, long time ago ) played there to that time when i was there.

one! was a german q3ut team
ask winz or appleseed.. they should remember me about aAa.

but besides that all what do u try to intend with that ?
trying to look me bad ? whats ur ambition ?

and btw ... i dont assume that everyone knows me. especially not beginners, lower skilled or mid skilled players. thats why i added my history. its just that people get it that i know what i am talking about.

there's no "ambition" mate

But the fact u defend yourself so defiantly kinda screams that you did pull some very loose strings when putting together your clan history.

Which is just incomprehensible to me, why would u use dodgy references to give the site more credibility when u got enough solid ones , even withouth dash shouting "i'm a q3tdm progamer"

But the fact u defend yourself so defiantly kinda screams that you did pull some very loose strings when putting together your clan history.

ok, now I do below that you are way below me.

What an exceptionably bad attempt at a point.

below becks? impossible!111

:/

Ye! I'm shouting it! As a matter of fact, it's only about what you call professional. There are only few teams competing on the highest level in QL TDM. As far as I know, I'm playing for one of them, dk also. It's not even possible to do TDM for a living, or go to LAN events, because 90% of QL tournaments are duel tournaments only. So pls tell me, who do you want to write a TDM guide? Rapha? Cypher? Write your own Clan Arena guide instead of crying down over others helpful project.

U said it yourself, there is no way to play ql tdm as a profession.

So why say u are a pro gamer? Exactly only to gain admiration and gasps of awe from virgins worldwide * cough*

What's wrong with saying i'm a top level ql tdm player and i want to give you some tips, which is the simple truth?.

Yeh it doesn't sound quite as fancy does it, but that's something ure personal ego will have to deal with. You're not a pro, you're a geek who spend way too much time on a hobby he doesn't get paid for period.

Your QL profile says, you are a bigger geek. You put more time in the game, and you are still a low/mid virgin Clan Arena player, so from your aspect of view I'm a professional. Eat it!

Let's not mention the fact that that's basically my only profile since ql originated.

I'm sure if we add up all your progamer (fake) nicks we will come to a far more substantial amount of "time played" than 3 days. Hell 3 days barely even covers any top tdm team practice time over a year, let alone since ql started.

So a very weak try at a defending argument at best.

I would be inclined to not even mention the low/mid level virgin player part but i cant resist.

If anything that just shows how mature you really are. Kinda sad u consider urself as a role model for aspiring ql players yet feel the need to try and insult people by calling them virgins...That's who i wanna be when i graduate from working in the IT business and having a girlfriend for 2 years running now.

well, as it's intended for amateurs/beginners in tdm, those names are quite unknown i guess, so it's the perfect introduction to say "professional quake Teamdeathmatch player"

Nice site dk. Ignore the cunts, the ql-community is full of them :ö)

good job dk , had thoughts of doing something like this for myself so keep it up !

However imo it lacks some deeper tactics on the maps. Got the feeling it is mostly talk about positions right now. Which is indeed important but kinda easy to learn by yourself. Maybe try to get more situations that could happen in a game and write down your thoughts about it.

" The enemy rushed RA and took over it , but they only have two guys with guns and Quad is in 1 min do you rush etc ? " Maybe not the best example but hopefully you get my point :) .

Some sad ppl in this thread also, the site prolly aint for you anyway. I got the feeling you dont think dk is good enough to write about tactics ( which he is imo)

But anyway when you are studying on a higher level you learn quickly that the best people on a subject not always is the best ones to teach beginners about it.

It's not about being good enough or not, as I stated before. This is a matter of form rather than the substance. The way they introduced themselves made them look like pros ; had it been you, fox, tox, deus, linkin, noctis, krysa or anyone else belonging in the top8 in tdm, I wouldn't have said anything.

Imo dk is legitimately trying to help the community but he has been doing so in an awkward way. I'm not the only one sharing this opinion from what I've heard on irc but at least I dared to express myself !

i heard somebody talk on irc, that somebody posted a link on esr to facebook where somebody mentioned that you might be a pathetic cunt. must be true!!1111

you don't seem to understand what zyvve was trying to say. the best players are not necessarily the one's best at explaining how to play a game.

dk might not have the super aim you need to "carry" a team (and i made fun of him for years because of that) but when you play with him he's the one calling the strats and that is exactly the person i want in charge of a tdm guide.
not the guy with the 65% rail or the 10k+ damage, who's to decide which player is more important to a team?

from my limited knowledge of the cs scene they seem to have explicit "roles" in a team, i'd like the quake scene to understand the same thing.

btw: afaik english isn't dk's first or even second language. maybe that explains some of the "awkwardness" you felt.

I agree with what you have just said.

nice dk, keep it up

A timeless classic's guide is ready for read: http://www.dothedk.com/quakelive-bible/dm7-retribution/ Happy New Year everybody!

anyone got a copy of a guide saved somewhere? cant seem to find any working link :x :/

p.s. nvm, found dm14/ o5 but in russian translation*