fuck theyre launching a hell of alot new mice, wonder if they are any good. Just ordered a DA (1800) to replace my wmo 1.1a if i get used to it :D

The sides look grippy for a change and the actual shape looks liek the best I've seen from Razer. I might go for this.

5600dpi

what a bunch of dopes.

Dear lord...

lets round that one up

that actually looks pretty nice.

as an aside, what an awful name.

Looks more like Razer's answer to the G500. I'll have to wait until it hits stores to see how big it is.

almost identical size specs to the DA

razer impregnator?

YEY, another feature that will break

I bet they are using the same sensor as the mamba had. This would without question lead to great failure on razers part.

Story so far: Razer decided to cheap out on the sensor using one based on the phillips twin-eye (the sensor from the lachesis). Sensor have fantastic specifications on paper, but in real life its horrible and not really ment for use in mice, wich leads to the "jitterbug".
Razer denies all this, claiming the mouse is too precise and hands out teflonrings (the goggles do nothing).
Razer yet again notices how the customers fail to notice how horrible their sensor actually is. They release a firmware update wich tries to resolve the issue by using horrible accel tweaks. Forum fags rejoice!

Razer keeps releasing shitty gaming mice with horrible hardware and high profits.

feel free to correct me.

I bought the mamba, and I use it at work atm. It's barely accurate enough for normal office use.

So what do you suggest for a right handed guy with big palms? Logitech G9x?

Not sure big the G9x is compared to the MX518, but the 518 is great for big hands. Depends on how big of course, but I don't think there are much bigger mice than the 518. It's also a great mouse!

sounds like you were an unlucky fellow using his experience to make conclusions.

My friend own's a mamba as well and plays perfectly fine in quakelive / ut.

No its really a shitty sensor...

No really he has no issues whatsoever.

I insist, its a really shifty sensor, but at least my mother has now a pimp mouse...

But i have a friend who as no problems with the lachesis...So i guess that i was just unlucky...Just like all of these ppl:
http://razerblueprints.net/index.php/componen...ic,6903.0/

Why are you goin on about Lachesis? I was referring to the Mamba because it doesn't use the Philips Twin Eye, it uses the Avago 19012, likely the same as the Imperator.

I don't see any thread's on Blueprint's regarding the Mamba having skipping issues with the latest firmeware.

Dunno why someone put that on wikipedia but the Mamba (and Naga) has a Philips twin-eye sensor, that's fact, and so has the Imperator.
There is no Avago 19012 sensor.

Show me where it is fact and I'll believe it.

I just have to look at the bottom of a Mamba to see that's a twin-eye sensor. ;)

Really and what's so special that you're seeing which I am not...

ok, this is how a Philips twin-eye looks like:

http://ww6.business-sites.philips.com/assets/...-13420.jpg

bottom of the Mamba:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/ori...a-5575.JPG

do you see it now?

I also just have to look at the specs of the Mamba/Naga/Imperator to know that's a twin-eye and as I saif before, there is no Avago 19012 sensor.

Does it look like mx500 with a diamondback front or is it just me ?

To me it looks like DeathAdder front + MX5xx.

Judging from the size and shape it seems just as much a response to G9x as to the Xai. Too bad they will probably still use the shitty phillips laser sensor that skips all over the place.

The CS team that just won i38 were using Imperators. I wonder how they did that with the cursor skipping all over the place?

you dont need to move the mouse around much in CS

So CS player's don't need precise aim simply because they're not moving the mouse around as much as Quake. I find that hard to believe, especially when you're talking about top players. Also I know several people using Mamba's and they say it doesn't skip on them. Let's not jump to conclusions before the mouse has been thoroughly tested.

cs guns have random firing spread. random mouse wins.

This is true

random cursor skipping would cause you to aim away from where you're pointing. If you don't know how to focus your spread, your'e dead.

i see

yes, and a skipping mouse makes you shot skip right back to the head of the opponent because it evens out the randomness of the game.

It's like puring cement between floor tiles. without it the floor tiles are uneven and move aroung. And cement alone can make an uneven floor if you're not careful. But togehteer you get a realy smooth experience.

meow

"yes, and a skipping mouse makes you shot skip right back to the head of the opponent because it evens out the randomness of the game"

lol?

welcome to esr.

;)

If it was moving away from where you are pointing, it isn't random.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/...4438_n.jpg

"Cypher with an Imperator as his new gaming pledge. Salut!"

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/...3781_n.jpg

lol :X

thats why he got owned

He didnt play with it in the tourney, only the exhibition matches. So yea, not the reason at all.

this isn't cypher? afaik he played with his custom razer deathadder at dreamhack.

fox/kinzu
rapha/xai
avek/salmosa
linkin/xai
cypher/da

(at dh)

ah ok

Were the Microsoft guys allowed to change the polling rate for their 1.1s and 3.0s?

i have no idea most of this was based on rapha talking on the stream.

fixed the link...yes it's him.

that's so weird i'd bet i saw him playing his ql matches with this white/blueish deathadder.

you did. :D

http://www.fragster.de/bildkommentare/photogalerie/8087/

aahh yes :D thanks.

fox/kinzu

really? so i guess it aint that bad after all??

fox sucked :))))

How do you know? Did you visit dreamhack?

see above. that is mostly based on what rapha said on the stream plus what can be seen on the fragster galleries (eg. cypher playing with a white da and not the new razer mouse).

i asked fox, he do not use kinzu.. so i guess one can't take u serious

my bad. again... rapha and slasher talked for a while about gaming hardware and i thought it would be a good idea to post what i remember from it.

Stream? Is this vod'd somewhere? I'd be interested in hearing reviews on the xai by these players.

it wasn't a review but merely a discussion. quakelivetv streamed the event over ustream.tv. the vods shld still be available there.

when did all the players switch away from the classic mice to these so-called gaming mice?

"fox/kinzu"

well that explains it then

are you drunk?

i was at the time of my posting. so yeah... why?

seems rather incorrect :P

he changed the original post and added two new pictures (of cypher) :) look at the edit times.

Only reason I changed the post is because linking urls for a facebook gallery page doesn't work right when logged in. That's why you were seein'g a different picture that I linked which later on I checked and it was a totally different shot and just linked to the actual picture url instead. Also you should read #35 before before writing something like #36.

there are just 6 minutes between our posts, i probably didn't see it/ didn't refresh the page before posting.

What? Last time I checked it was

fox/wmo
rapha/wmo
avek/mx310
linkin/wmo
cypher/da

linkje uses the Xai now? Did rapha say anything about his experiences with the Xai?

that's photos from the Razer Booth at dreamhack though, where Cypher took part in a shootout.

harr harr

http://news.ati-forum.de/images/stories/Testb...ator/5.jpg

this looks like a philips twin-eye, right?

http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/testberich...-imperator

confirmed that rapha uses the Xai? OMG_HYPE!!