Edit: Cooller vs Rapha rematch.

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"announced soon enough" well I suppose those who could go should already know, otherwise it's time to announze now.

Oh, and please no more groinpunching rules like in last years final.

http://kotaku.com/the-oculus-vs-zenimax-battl...1571812928
Most probably Carmack is not going to be there.

The finalists depend on cypher using a wmo instead of the raizer taipan and on how brackets are, for example rapha-evil semi.

quakecon in a nutshell.

rapha-evil semi
--> final cypher <-> rapha
cypher-rapha semi
--> final cypher <-> evil
evil-cypher semi
--> final with wmo: cypher <-> raphia
--> final w/o wmo: evil <-> rapha

Agreed, no Carmack Keynote this year, and prolly never more.

The finalists depend on cypher using a wmo instead of the raizer taipan

='D

he said if anything it is gona be back to oldschool lobby keynote. (his words).

Yes, however after carmack wrote that zenimax (id's parent company) started IP claims directly towards him, hence the link and why most probably carmack won't be at quakecon this year.

zenimax wouldnt dare ban carmack for showing at qcon. that would hurt their name, dont fall for basic brand/name advertizing. Like i said lobby keynotes, it isnt something new. Its just sharing your ideas in place anyone can listen.

Since quakecon is a lot of volunteers driven ...is id an owner or only a hefty contributor?

If you were carmack, would you do a (free) speech to someone or to benefit someone that is disrespecting you? Of course not.

After that comes the relationship between companies:
- Why would oculus/facebook allow Carmack to do a speech there, mind you most probably about the subject of the complaint?
- Why would zenimax host a speech of the man they are going to sue?

Would have to search a bit to see who owns the name quakecon and everything related to it. However, considering that everything on quakecon's site leads to zenimax, before that to id software, and that quakecon is hosted and organized by id software, I'd say there's a strong chance either id or zenimax directly 'owns' the event as a whole, all aspects considered. No company leaves assets for free or things to chance, especially with all the money involved in hosting the event. So no, there's no way quakecon is "of the community" or that it has a say on if carmack will be there, or that carmack can freely do a speech there without asking for permission first..

Plus remember id's parent company is zenimax: ultimately not even id itself has a say on quakecon if zenimax decides otherwise..The best known examples of zenimax overriding id are that zenimax decided to not release the already made first version of doom4 because they thought it was not good enough, and that carmack left id because zenimax decided not to invest into VR thingies.

Anyway more spotlight for quake and for doom4, right.

thats the point, if you follow Carmack you see the type of person he is and i can safly say, he does keynotes for the fun of tehnology, having said that he also knows his legal boundaries, which in this case are indeed quite complicated.

This year qcon is definitly gona be interesting and has the full potential for a full blown drama, for which this community apperantly lives for. (goddamn soap-opera-trollers-bringing-down-IQ-since-1999).

I have some serious blue balls for seeing rapha duel. also I hope he'll be wearing shorts again

ZeRo4 in cargos <3

Can't wait for the minigames

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Now that there won't be a keynote we have 4 hours more to spend on minigames. Fuck yeah!

I'm going to chug so many Bawls

glad you didn't say "quakecon precum"

back when cypher was still on razr he was unbeatable

abyssus!

:)

yeah, it probably definitely maybe has nothing to do with his smoking...

(PURE speculation of course - dude lives in a different country, i know nothing of him personally, and i basically have no reason to say this except for the colors in his nametag)

false rumors! :P

pointless discussing it. quakecon never changes. just look at the last 4 years and you already know what's going to happen

HOPEFULLY DOOM 4 BETA

i preferred todd over tim willits tbh. todd was the embodiment of coke and hookers and didnt try to hide it. tim looks like he's trying to hide it.

hehehe nice1

A 90s stereotype for a stuck in the 90s company. Fits.

QL ditched for Doom 4 Tourney with famous cod players and fatality

With famous pgm fat using xbox pad!

And warming up with gamer food!

will they throw gamerfood on crowd...fucking peanuts everywhere.

... prolly muricans can afford flying peanuts, cuz of alergys and lawsuits.

btw ... awesome gif :DDD

iirc it's a Grumlouze one, don't steal the man :)