cm storm alcor is around 80-90g i think

http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/mice/alcor/

86g

Thank you!

Is there any other?

This one should be really light.

It kinda aims for you

Finalmouse maybe?
75g or something, with an usual ergo shape.

Btw. Rival is also ~105g.
128g is with cable.

http://www.amazon.com/FinalMouse-2015/dp/B00MX8QSLW

omfg 74g

looks like the quality is also good

thanks alot!!

I'd say it's a mix of ie3 and mx518 though

wouldn't have bothered repeating here, but he had the kone pure in his list to, which also don't have much in common with the ime 3.0 aside from an ergo shape.

actually didint know kone pure's shape was different from ie3.
do kone pure / finalmouse feel very different from ie3 shape-wise?

i would put the kone pure shape more into the "mx500 family" shapewise, even more so the finalmouse.

IME 3.0 family: Rival, DA, EC1/2

Alcor / Cougar 300M are closer to the medium sized symetrical mice(WMO, Kana...) even with their "ergo" shape.

I see,
it is a difficult choice but today i ordered finalmouse2015 since I haven't used MX500 family at all,
if it still fits like IE3 family, this should be the best choice.

no, the quality might not be so good. :P

What thunda said above is accurate.The Finalmouse is known to have rather inconsistent build quality, so I'd think twice.

http://www.esreality.com/post/2696824/finalmo...pid2742256

looks like 2015 summer edition fixed those issues.
not sure if it is true or false tho

Another intellimouse explorer 3.0. Honestly I've tried em all and nothing compares. I wish they would have a 500hz version to be honest. I hate the shape of the others so therefore logitech wins for me. g402 baby!

Give the Gtune M40 a try. IME3.0 with 3310 sensor. LOD is slightly higher but I threw on a set of Puretrak HD's and it's working out great!

I can't find information on it online at all you sure the company is called "Gtune"?

found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhRyUdM8LtU

looks like it is from Korean company and there is almost no information in English but just Korean.

It's called the Hansung GTune M40. I don't have a link to their official site though.

Hey guys, I purchased it from Gmarket. It's a relatively inexpensive model, but shipping rate did make up a good portion of the cost since I reside in the US. Here is a link:

http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview...=724849325

And OP, it is listed at 110g so it doesn't help your cause. But for anyone who wants to try this 3310 implementation, I've had no problem thus far (although I don't have another 3310 to compare it with. It does feel a lot better compared to the 3090 fo Zowie AM and Ninox Aurora though)

Hey, doesn't the packaging or manual mention a website or other resource? Would be nice if you could share here.

Hansung Computer Service Center
49-6 Wonhyoro 3-ga, Yongsan-gu Seoul, Korea
www.monsterlabs.co.kr

I wonder if the only difference between the M40 Aim and M42 Archer are the color/coating.

M42 has a matte finish and lacks side buttons.

Ah, the kone pure optical is also not 90g, but 98g:

http://i.imgur.com/xHiLjnw.jpg

reference:

http://i.imgur.com/SflNjH9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GHnuSNA.jpg

damn great job, thank you so much!
yeah sometimes we should not trust the information on the internet )
thank you!

From experience, your best bet is either another MS3.0, or the Zowie EC series, or the CM Alcor. There's also the Cougar 300M which is the same thing as an Alcor.

The EC series might feel a bit higher than the MS3.0, while the Alcor/300M is a bit shorter in length.

http://www.cougargaming.com/products/mice/300m/

thank you!
didint even know the company whose name was Cougar exists.

actually I own ec2evo, IE3, and DA 3.5G.
They allow me to do trace aim way more easily than wmo etc,
size-wise I am comfortable with any of them.

The thing is all of them are a bit heavy. therefore bigger swings are kinda slow, and my wrist gets tired quickly especially when I abuse my wrist to do mouse aim.
Ive never experienced that with wmo or some other lightweight mouses.

so I was wondering if there was anything whose shape was kinda similar to IE3 but as lightweight as wmo.

Lift weights. That's a solution. Sounds like you may have weak wrists or forearms which is never good.

yeah i actually removed the wheel and a few screws of my ec2evo white a few days ago.
was still a bit heavy (
i think my wrist is not weak compared to you guys but i use my wrist really hard when it comes to lg. (using mouse aim a lot is good for countering strafe aimers etc you know)

when i opened the ec2evo, was some unnecessary plastic parts.
i ordered finalmouse tonight but if it doesnt work for me, maybe i will have to cut those plastic parts inside ec2evo.

To be honest, that's the fence that divides ambidextrous mice from ergonomic ones for me. I think you'll have to adjust, a middle ground may not be satisfactory in other aspects.

Or get stronger wrists ;)

I'd suggest trying the Alcor/300M shape as one last attempt. You could also try forcing/adjusting to using a bit more of your arm for control, or at the very least keeping your arm on your desk even if you still use the wrist for control.

I see, i ordered finalmouse tonight so I will see if it can do the job or not.
If not then yeah, i think ill have to remove some parts inside ec2evo, then changing how I use my wrist / arm.

zowie za13 is 80g but maybe too small

i actually own ZA12, but its more like WMO.

The Ducky Secret Mouse is releasing soon, as well. No publications on the weight as of yet but it will be made with a PBT casing (denser material with stronger properties, but not necessarily heavier overall since they can shave off the thickness of the shell)

After owning a ducky zero and having a failing mechanical keyboard within 2 years of usage not even heavy usage I would never buy another ducky product.

I've never owned a Ducky product, but was under the impression that they're known for producing high quality products. Interesting..

I've had a Ducky DK9087 G2 Pro for several years now and haven't run into any problems yet.

I'm using the Zowie EC2-A, previously used the IME.

I'm liking the EC2-A, no issues with it at all. I like the size, weight and feel of it.

Yeah I love that mouse too, mine is ec2evo tho.
Trace aim with this kind of shape is just super easy for me but the wrist gets tired quickly.
The cause must be either
1: weight
Or
2; height

Since my aby2014 has the similar height and I don't get tired at all, my guess is #1.

You may have a technique problem with how you hold your mouse. You could also have RSI, I'm not sure the weight of the mouse would be the problem. Whatever suits you I guess.

What is RSI?

Yeah my grip is between claw and palm with around 20cm/360.
Maybe I should lower my sensi if final mouse does not work (

thank you guys,
I got finalmouse2015 today so here is a short review.

I'm gonna compare the mouse to WMO since WMO had been my main mouse for a few years.

<shape, weight>
the height , length, width is almost the same as WMO.
for weight, WMO "feels" a bit lighter, this is maybe because finalmouse2015's ergo shape.
When I put the the entire mouse ON my palm(not talking about grip), it feels as light as WMO is.

<sensor>
sensor is great and I have found no issues so far.
It tracks really well and feels no accel or something like that.

<overall feeling>
overall, this mouse almost feels like ergo version of WMO, which means, its super light with reliable sensor, but also more stable than WMO because of the ergo shape, which allows you to trace opponent's move really easily.
feels kinda similar to when I am warmed up enough after hours of playing and constantly hit 50+- lg in most situations.
I haven't got tired at all even after 3-4 hours of 20+ ppl loadout ffa.
It's seriously good so far.

since I just got one today and have played only for 3-4+ hours, I am still not used to it completely, but already feel amazing.

<cons? or I am just not used to the mouse yet>
There are 2 situations where I find it hard with this mouse
1: against super close range big movements
2: against super small micro dodging

but I am almost sure this will be no issues after I get used to the mouse and the sensitivity.

<my settings>
fyi, I am using this mouse at 400dpi, 5 sensitivity (20cm/360)
so not sure about low sensi play, but since the sensor feels good, I guess it is still good for low sensi players.

So far I am REALLY happy with the product.
Again thank you so much and I will keep playing with this mouse for a while.
I will post again if I find something that I did not write here.