o noes you see the shadows of players who are already visible via cg_drawfriend.

enemies as well, try checking more than 1 pic before commentating

/D:\

AMD barton 2500+ XP
some ram with serious memory errors and wont cold boot for 2 hrs of non stop restarts

dedicated/client/fraps on same desktop

doesnt run very smooth...must be bad coding

im just 1337, QW runs fine looking like

does this also work when you play or is it just when you spec?
in any way you might wanna report the bug to id (not that it will matter much, but still)

haven't tried playing yet... will do in a min, sec.
edit: yep, it works

Makes you wonder how many others have this bug and haven't said anything :-P

nice

Only if you have it... :<

It's not a bug, it's a feature. (only for premium players)

sent this to ID, hope they ban u

lol

hheeh

I have:

intel core duo @ 1.86ghz
2gb ram
ATI x1300 256mb

I WANT THIS TOO DAMN IT, I PAiD FOR PRO

when battleforged first came out I could see the entire map from some rooms on a mac.
I never tested it again since I only go to quakelive.com in osx to chat with some friends and sometimes watch a game or two between them.

guys... don't make it so complicated. this game is without any anti-cheat system anyway. you can download every cheap wall hack u find in google. it will work.

sad but true

again, another thing that has changed from last year.

ALSO, i will take this one step further.

I strongly believe that syncerror himself allows certain individuals to cheat and stalk people he doesn't like, other than simply to test new cheats (someone has to and sycn's team obviously doesn't have the time to do it themselves) I believe the individuals he has given these rights to are: (on us servers):

Av8r, Incubus, Foole, Loldsn, Lollercopter

and perhaps more

I have seen in many instances where the above 5 all of a sudden performed like a bot hitting 80% across the board but more obvious is their complete lack of authority and their apparent lack of fear on the game itself as if they have immunity. Well i believe they do have immunity from syncerror. Immunity to raise terror as all 5 are known to stalk people extensively from one server to the next. They're certainly the 5 that most people have complained about for the past 1-2 years who seemingly get away with racism, harassment, stacking, slumming, etc without even a care in the world. That is cyberbullying and in the end Syncerror would be responsible.

The moment someone like bliksems however owns others in the same way, oh noes, all hell breaks lose, we can't have that! let's ban him!! that's the attitude of syncerror. And most likely it was simply because bliksems was owning those 5 and others he's close to if not syncerror himself (we know he plays albeit exclusively on an alias these days). I know for a fact that just as many people have emailed ordus that incubus cheats as they may have done for visje (despite the larger user base in europe), so in the end it simply comes down to the fact that incubus has immunity (which we know he already has from lillie), and bliksems did not.

I have personally never seen this kind of protectionism and favoritism amongst developers and their friends but then again this is also one of the smallest gaming communities i've been involved in. But its' not right and it just helps to invalidate id and makes people trust them even less. It's one thing to give special treatment to players but to give them the right to cheat, slum and use the general public userbase as guinea pigs is just an extension of sync's insecurities and hate for his own community. In the end he blames esr when fault lies strictly with syncerror himself. He wrote the rules (but doesn't follow them) and he set the guidelines (but breaks them routinely).

This is what Bethesda has failed to realize, that their own project is being killed by the developers in more ways than one. But the real question should be posed to Bethesda, are you turning a blind eye to it too? Because as it stands now, unless we see them fund ql again, there's a good chance Bethesda has given up on this project as well. But i strongly believe that is probably due to the fact that id and bethesda dont' see eye to eye on things, rightfully so.

The subscription models have been a complete disaster and that was most likely the litmus test that would decide quake live's fate. The rest is most likely already written in stone at this point as even the most staunch quake live supporters of years past have silenced themselves and resigned to the fact that quake live is not as popular as they had hoped it would be.

Btw, for those of you in the dark:
http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...ay-for-me-(

The 2 people he's talking about are:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/861/2cheatersinonegame.jpg/

THE MOST OBVIOUS OF BOTS ARE ABLE TO WORK IN QL in 2011. With Zero control to stop bots, how can the community manage itself when we all know there are many players who are smart enough to keep their accuracies low enough not to be detected (imitated)-(hell he flew even under my radar) since strenx's lg (45%), porosity's lg(48%), lollercopters rg(60% = although we know how; see above),etc) have set the top mark. So long as someone keeps their % at or slightly below that, how will anyone find out. Answer: only if they are stupid enough to be caught looking through walls (HI PTH!).

Cheats kill games. Yes every game has cheats, but games with prolific cheats die much faster. it's definetely true that noone cares anymore and thats fine as it took 3 weeks for simply one person to even raise the issue on the ql forum or to ordus personally via email. It's not like it was the first time....
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/219/wagakroko2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/852/wagakroko3.jpg/

In the end, this game died, because the people who gave a damm about it, were ignored (or banned for doing a better job communicating with the community than all of them combined) and now id is left with a community that trolls itself on their own official forum. They though xtruder and lochdog were bad, lol, they have no idea what's coming. Fudge911 is the start of a new breed that will inhabit that place and turn it into the laughingstock that we all know it to be. It's just a matter of time before the moderators that are left end up leaving (they'd be stupid to sit around on a sinking ship especially since they too get completely ignored like the rest of us). Some people say that id doesn't do anything because we dont do anything for id, that's completely backwards i feel as "we" the community have done far more for id than id ever did for us. Without all the support from the community q3 would have died years ago already. Id is lucky to have even been given a second chance with ql. Quake should probably just die so we can all move on to a game that actually has a future.

nigga, you high? that's a lot of shit to write about stuff that doesn't matter and players who're awful. incubus and loldsn are terrible at quake lol. they're cheating? oh well. they're easy enough to rape anyway, so who cares?

i wasn't talking about them in terms of being gods on ql, i simply said they go around harassing people on ql by stacking teams together on low tier servers. Hop over to a toronto server during the day sometime when you see a vortex portal game up and there's a good chance you'll see loldsn and foole show up. Let me know how that irks you after getting smashed by those 2. I'd bet you probably won't get one frag on those 2. Their bot predicts every single spawn point. (you'll see them simply holding down the fire button with rockets and hitting 60-70%)

not only are you insane, you're retarded. if you think those guys would "rape" tyryl... just lol @ you.

go outside

are you serious? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7295110/VALIStyryl%28..._44_04.jpg

this is when I barely played and I was high as fuck :c

Alex Jones plays quake now?

ugh please don't put FFA newbiebashers like poros1ty's stats in the same sentence as someone like strenx

for doing what he does, poros1ty's stats are in fact mediocre at best

yea that guy is really shit. didn't even see his name in that wall of text though.

don't tell julien that... and if he's so shit how come he has the highest winning % for a ffa player on ql? huh?

cause be beats up on tier 1s. I've only played him once in FFA and raped him easily, then he dodged me ever since. all of my friends who play FFA and aren't near my skill beat that guy regularly. he doesn't dodge them as hard.

edit: found the match link for you: http://www.quakelive.com/r/profile/matches/Po...a/45802345

that was back when I was lagging badly and on a 60Hz LCD. you can also see that a friend of mine who only had like 20 frags in this game beat him in FFA some time later:

http://www.quakelive.com/r/profile/matches/Po...f796/ffa/1

the skill gap is significant. I usually beat arcsign by 30-40 frags in duel, and we've probably played 100 FFA game together. I think he won one of them.

just curious, do you ever play when you're not: lagging badly / on a 60 hz monitor / stoned as fuck / ??? or is that the standard practice in NA quake?

no, I don't ever play when I'm not lagging badly, because quakelive is always lagging for me. it's unplayable and for that reason I have played hardly at all in the past month, and I'm done with it entirely by this point. excellent question. thanks for asking.

also, when I'm not high (I never said "stoned," but you're German so I'll excuse this), I play not high. and when I'm on my 120Hz LCD which is now broken, I don't play on a 60Hz monitor.

I'll take that as a no.

which is it?

no 1st, yes 2nd.

I can't beleive you're using FFA stats as evidence to prove someone is good at the game. I don't think I could come up with a less convincing argument for parody purposes if I tried.

Tony has 'only' a 65% win ratio in FFA. Does this mean this guy I have never heard of would have a chance vs Tony?

to be fair, and I'm going to get a lot of shit for this if anyone reads it because I'm going against the grain of memeoloolology, tony doesn't seem to be all that good, and porosity probably could take FFA games off of him, but your point is well taken. FFA stats are completely meaningless.

His lg (48%) is the highest for any reasonable player who wasn't caught cheating and has played since closed beta. Check yourself.

you're just making stuff up.
http://img710.imageshack.us/i/poros1tya.jpg/

59% overall accuracy in almost 2500 games played
64% rail (lollercopter's % dropped to 61)
46% rail (higher than strenx@40%) - he dropped 2 points!! (was 48)

95% win percentage in ffa
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/poros1tyb.jpg/

2052-77 (wins/losses)

So what if his lg accuracy on his profile is higher than strenx's?

lol

I presume he hits those numbers vs strenx.

played my fair share of ffa's and have won the majority of them even though i don't take it seriously in the slightest and i repeat: something like 46% shaft is not close to impressive for someone so obviously and undeniably statwhoring.

the only thing "impressive" - or pathetic, if you ask anyone decent - about his stats is what that 95% win rate shows; the insane care he takes in selecting his matches making sure his odds are great (never join a match in progress (this alone would make ANYONE normal in the head have more than 5% FFA losses), never stay when better players have connected, etc) and how long he's managed to keep it up without getting bored out of his skull (newbie praise like yours likely kept him going here; "better to reign in hell...") or getting disgusted with himself.

all i'm saying is he's great at what he does, but what he does only stands out because nobody in their right mind would waste that much time and effort on it. it's like a grown man playing soccer or hockey or something and being 100% serious about it for years, except he only plays against twelve-year olds who just try to have fun. and he's the best scorer! more goals than gretzky and pelé combined! wow! isn't that super impressive!?

wow, that many matches played and i've never seen this guy in my life

I see cheaters sometimes, it doesn't bother me much. They can actually be very cordial. In an FFA game once, the obvious botter (there were absolutely no questions about it), would quit the game before he reached the frag-limit. It's just people having fun. People take things too seriously sometimes.

Hehe, I just did a random Google search of my name, and I came across this.

I just had to make an account and respond. :D

I'm glad you guys think so highly of me.

ray's stance doesn't represent the majority of esr

also, lolol na statwhore

you actually read that shit? lol

I think syncerror took that thing "play in every place in the world with your settings" way too far.
<3

This issue has nothing to do with "taking things too serious". Quake is a game like every other. The idea behind is to compete with each other. Human vs. human. Or do you allowed your friends to play chess with a chess computer against you? Where is the sense?

Btw. I have already sent countless demos of obvious cheaters to the id support email. They only say "Thanks that you keep the game fair, we will take care of this case but due to privacy reasons we can't tell you what happened in that case." Afterwards I watched their accounts. None of those got banned. That makes me frustrated. Sometimes I even think of cheating, too. Not to win, only to show id how incapable they are. This might probably be the only way to get a cheat protection.

QL's NA community is a gift to the world.