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ESL QL Duel Fun Cup on Toxicity (117 comments)

( Major News: QL)

Posted by xou @ 23:00 UTC, 17 March 2011 - iMsg

Scheduled: 19:30 UTC, 17 March 2011 to 23:30 UTC, 17 March 2011
Schedule: Passed

With the release of Toxicity in Quakelive yesterday, another Q3 map with a nice potential gets added in the list of the QL Premium maps. That's why on Thursday evening, starting at 19:30 UTC, the QL European section of ESL will organize a Duel Fun Cup on Toxicity.

The cup will be open to all members who have registered a Premium or Pro Quakelive Gameaccount. As for the format, it will be played with bo1 through a Double Elimination brackets.

Infos

Rankings

VODs

Stream: Level Up,

c58
Links: Announcement, Sign-up, Brackets -

Edited by xou at 03:37 UTC, 19 March 2011 - 37684 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 02:49 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

davis

Map fucking rapes, needs to get picked up immediately.

<< Comment #38 @ 19:55 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #1

+, for me is the best map so far :)

Edited by CAREEM at 13:52 UTC, 17 March 2011

<< Comment #42 @ 21:53 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

sz` - Reply to #38

+++++++

<< Comment #6 @ 11:29 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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Anonymous (193.219.168.126)

ztn aero battle toxi furious
5 mappool for lan tourneys.

<< Comment #7 @ 12:51 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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ArNoz - Reply to #6

ye, this one should be good :)

<< Comment #8 @ 13:14 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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spartaz0rd - Reply to #6

see ya ztn . HI CONCRETE PALACE

<< Comment #9 @ 14:21 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

SyncError - Reply to #8

Battleforged
Concrete Palace
Furious Heights
Hektik
Toxicity

<< Comment #17 @ 15:47 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.180.19) - Reply to #9

If I registered on this site, I would [+] you

<< Comment #11 @ 14:40 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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T1E - Reply to #9

official id mappool for the next qcon+esl season 6 from today's pov?

meh, I always fall asleep during hektik matches

<< Comment #27 @ 18:21 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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Magician - Reply to #11

falls asleep during hektik matches lmao, wonder what you do during dm13 matches then.. die or something?

<< Comment #36 @ 19:27 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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T1E - Reply to #27

back and forth boom boom boom back and forth

I don't like that but I enjoyed dm13 matches until cypher +backed it to death :X

I don't know if you understand this argument of mine but how would you imagine a Rapha/Carmac ESL analysis of a regular Hektik match would look like?

<< Comment #43 @ 22:21 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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dansen - Reply to #27

hektik is like, rapha can't be 5 steps ahead, because the map only allows for two steps... i also find it kind of dull

<< Comment #12 @ 14:45 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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ffx - Reply to #9

Add aerowalk and I agree with you :P
(my favourite map by far and I never played q3 so it isn't overplayed at all for me :P)

<< Comment #13 @ 14:48 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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RMS - Reply to #9

poor cooller

<< Comment #14 @ 14:52 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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daviezz - Reply to #9

please make it happen!

<< Comment #16 @ 15:11 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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pharrow - Reply to #9

\o/

<< Comment #18 @ 16:09 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #9

- Concrete Palace

This map won't be pld

<< Comment #21 @ 16:33 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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Anonymous (84.248.168.13) - Reply to #9

This is exactly what QL needs, out with the "golden"oldies.
If i remember right Toxjq said he wont be interested in QL unless map pool gets revamped.

<< Comment #37 @ 19:34 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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twister - Reply to #21

oO really?
he is exclusively playing the old maps in practises.

<< Comment #90 @ 03:29 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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zar4 - Reply to #37

he laughs at the mappool played at tourneys, that doesnt mean he cant have fun owning noobs on ztn

<< Comment #20 @ 16:31 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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0x5f3759df - Reply to #9

-hek + aero

it may be "old" but it always delivers great games, even the "slow" matches on it are quite intense.

<< Comment #23 @ 17:07 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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spartaz0rd - Reply to #9

u read in my mind bro

<< Comment #28 @ 18:26 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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rareh - Reply to #9

100% agree

<< Comment #30 @ 18:32 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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ins - Reply to #9

aero and ztn are still good to play, -concrete palace and -toxicity

<< Comment #45 @ 00:07 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Fejl(Folklore) - Reply to #9

Yes!

<< Comment #104 @ 13:55 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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PopS_ - Reply to #9

-battle
-conc
NOONE PLAYS IT !

Aerowalk, Hetkik, Toxicity, FuriousHeights, BloodRun
so -dm13 I guess... or ztn

Edited by pops_ at 13:58 UTC, 18 March 2011

<< Comment #39 @ 19:56 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #8

ye, lets get rid of ztn shit shit shit shit shit map

<< Comment #51 @ 09:48 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

deji - Reply to #6

This.

<< Comment #5 @ 11:29 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

p4n

map is $$$$

<< Comment #2 @ 09:56 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

looks fun map

Didn't tried it, but seems like having too much armor for such a small size. Have to play it 1st though, to tell for sure.

Nonetheless, very nice initiative. I will probably sign up too.

<< Comment #3 @ 10:53 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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eh

Signed up, anyone wanna practice?:)

<< Comment #4 @ 11:29 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.180.14)

Looks like a good map.

People need to realize that QL is as well-balanced as it could be, apart from minor tweaks. Reverting to OSP/CPMA with overpowered LG, slower rockets, will simply turn QL into Q3.

The +back problem lies in the map pool. First, we need to throw out the old maps, the maps that people have virtually memorized and are impossible to be creative on. Second, we need to put maps in the pool that cater to +forward and faster play. Maps that have less armor, are smaller, and where weapons are not readily available.

Hektik is a great example, and toxicity looks like another map with potential. Throw out DM13, bring in toxicity. Perhaps we can also replace ztn with t9. T7 ought to be replaced, ultimately. T4 and aerowalk are the better of the old school maps.

<< Comment #44 @ 00:03 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Fejl(Folklore) - Reply to #4

I agree with you.

<< Comment #57 @ 14:29 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #4

We need to replace old maps indeed, but with something similar layout wise... if you look the level design of hektik/toxicity... they are just far from ztn/dm6/dm13/t7 layout. I just don't like maps like that, so I wish ztn go and make a new map :<.

<< Comment #75 @ 18:47 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #4

T9 pls, map is so much more fun to watch than snoozefest T7.

Non +back map rotation should be:
Hub
Concrete Palace
Toxicity
House of Decay
Hektik

<< Comment #77 @ 19:54 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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chzzen - Reply to #75

non +back map??? toxicty? woot??? xD

<< Comment #112 @ 19:24 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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onlyDM6forever - Reply to #4

t2 with plasma replacing the chaingun and make the teleport exit jump harder would be sick

<< Comment #10 @ 14:38 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

Ryfje

Awesome :D

<< Comment #15 @ 15:08 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

burgonya

$$$
needs more like these

<< Comment #19 @ 16:30 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

ins

are you kidding me ...
first concrete palace, now this, rofl

<< Comment #22 @ 16:45 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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ffx - Reply to #19

It's a cup. No one forces you to play it :x
Be happy that there is actually a cup before it gets implemented into a mappool of a big tournament (hi@ old bf +back shit and sound bugs).

Edited by ffx at 16:47 UTC, 16 March 2011

<< Comment #25 @ 18:10 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #22

come on, we played some bf, its not that bad anymore and now with the sound fixed, it will be even less +back'ish

<< Comment #33 @ 18:43 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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ffx - Reply to #25

I meant the old bf and honestly that version sucked compared to the new one. New bf is great and I would love to see it in the pro mappool ;).

<< Comment #29 @ 18:31 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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ins - Reply to #22

a map this bad won't get implemented in an official mappool

<< Comment #50 @ 09:46 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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deji - Reply to #29

This map is great and the top duel players I've talked to like it much better than some of the maps we have now (hi dismemberment and hektik).

<< Comment #56 @ 12:12 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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ins - Reply to #50

well, dismemberment and hektik are shit as well :x

<< Comment #24 @ 17:21 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

occultum

It's nice that people are having fun and all, but we must admit that map sucks badly. Will never be played @ competitive quake.
About the hitboxes.. whatever, my complaints won't change anything so i won't whine.

<< Comment #26 @ 18:15 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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Nukm

nice cup, perfect way to get people to test it out

btw am i alone with the feeling i described in the update post?
"could someone just stretch the whole map by 10%? feels so cramped"

<< Comment #80 @ 22:33 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

deotrip - Reply to #26

no

<< Comment #31 @ 18:36 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

sz`

The map is new to 95% of players and fun to play, it's all that matters

<< Comment #32 @ 18:42 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

sumatra

Are there any plans for some nifty broadcasting?
Would really like to get a first impression of duels on this map.

<< Comment #34 @ 19:00 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

zinfan

the free to play quakelive game will soon be pay to play :(

<< Comment #35 @ 19:07 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

mefajpE^

this map is awesome ;]

<< Comment #40 @ 19:57 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #35

yeah, toxicity<3

<< Comment #41 @ 21:24 UTC, 16 March 2011 >>

By

no_il

Anyone got any demos of some "pro" duels on it? preferably one with a lot of spawn rapes =)?

<< Comment #48 @ 08:59 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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ronc311 - Reply to #41

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1379014

<< Comment #53 @ 10:27 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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no_il - Reply to #48

Thanks but I meant QL ones. It obviously plays much differently in QL.

<< Comment #62 @ 16:32 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #53

Begins In: 02:58

patience ;)

<< Comment #46 @ 00:11 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

Will it be streamed?

<< Comment #49 @ 09:32 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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pharrow - Reply to #46

i sure hope it will be. otherwise, what's the point?

<< Comment #47 @ 05:10 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

Luko1L

sorry, but this map is shit. it fits to q4 more with this scattered boxes all around on which u have to jump to get powerups and plenty of green waters. corridors are still so narrow . this tournament will be the last where this map should be played

<< Comment #117 @ 16:15 UTC, 23 March 2011 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #47

o wow boxes u have to navigate and jump around on to actually get to items instead of fucking rectangular rooms with no topography and no real movement required. what a fucking bummer ay?

<< Comment #52 @ 10:05 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

atomigo

lazy to watch demos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFXiZkF5g6s
something, someone uploaded

<< Comment #54 @ 10:41 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

noctis - Reply to #52

weird whining about luck ... now thats new

<< Comment #67 @ 16:50 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #54

sign up :o

<< Comment #89 @ 01:39 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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Weird - Reply to #54

ye it usualy is lag / warp / etc...

But seriously this pops guy should get a different hobby then to spec random games I play online and then upload the ones I lose + whine in....

I guess some people can not handle the truth :)

<< Comment #92 @ 03:49 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

dem0n - Reply to #89

Does it ever happen that you don't whine after a a game you lost ?

:D

<< Comment #93 @ 04:13 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

Weird - Reply to #92

ye pretty often actually.

<< Comment #115 @ 08:06 UTC, 19 March 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #92

Yes, more often than you think.

<< Comment #106 @ 15:29 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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atomigo - Reply to #89

it was not me... just found that, because I AM too lazy to watch demos and looked "toxicity ql" up on youtube.

<< Comment #107 @ 15:58 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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Weird - Reply to #106

no it's pops... he's angry at me for dunno what reason... keeps whining to me on irc / ingame etc :(
it's becomming a bit annoying...

<< Comment #63 @ 16:38 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #52

thanks for sharing, but you should really increase your brightness/gamma when recording it for a vid
and what is the color of the crosshair pulse based on? o0

Edited by Nukm at 16:59 UTC, 17 March 2011

<< Comment #70 @ 17:10 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

T1E - Reply to #63

cg_crosshairhitstyle 1

coloring crosshair on hits
1-25 hp, 26-50, 51-75 76-100

<< Comment #71 @ 17:12 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #70

wtf i totally missed that option, was always using 2, will try it out, thx

edit: well, thinking about it, its not really that usefull because the hitsound does already scale by dmg (you meant dmg and not hp, right?) and it doesnt look that great

Edited by Nukm at 17:14 UTC, 17 March 2011

<< Comment #73 @ 17:54 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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T1E - Reply to #71

i have both hitbeep 3 and crosshairhitstyle 1 enabled - helps a lot imho

<< Comment #66 @ 16:47 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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rizzah - Reply to #52

what number killbeep is that? ;.

<< Comment #55 @ 11:43 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

crv

awesome, a fcking new map !

oh wait, it s just a nother quake 3 map, what is the problem with ID software...asking for new map and we got old Quake 3 map , so ID software, why did u stop quake 3...

<< Comment #58 @ 14:51 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

sumatra

What's wrong with an old map which was not overused?
What makes a fresh one better?

I don't get the point.

<< Comment #60 @ 15:51 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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noctis - Reply to #58

ignore the whiners, we are happy your map is in ql!

<< Comment #61 @ 16:31 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Kristus - Reply to #58

The point is that people like to bitch a lot more than they like to make sense. ;)

<< Comment #59 @ 15:20 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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CAREEM

omg admins dont want to accept me ... like ppl cant invite me on that map...

<< Comment #64 @ 16:43 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

Bob - Reply to #59

.

Edited by Bob at 03:31 UTC, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #68 @ 16:52 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #59

and what if 2 players dont have prem? and stuff like this delays cups and is always annoying, just get prem if you wan to play competitively, come on

Edited by Nukm at 16:52 UTC, 17 March 2011

<< Comment #111 @ 18:41 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

EmSixTeen - Reply to #68

Yeah, I don't understand the scabby bastards that don't fork out a few quid to support and play the game they want to play.

<< Comment #72 @ 17:44 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

ZeriouS - Reply to #59

:(

<< Comment #65 @ 16:43 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

Bob

.

Edited by Bob at 03:31 UTC, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #69 @ 17:09 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

karizma

i just soooooooooo much miss a shockrifle on this map!!! <3

anyway, nice map, just too many boxes around ..

Edited by karizma at 17:14 UTC, 17 March 2011

<< Comment #81 @ 23:11 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

Bob - Reply to #69

.

Edited by Bob at 03:31 UTC, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #102 @ 12:09 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

CAREEM - Reply to #69

I want more boxes! Q2 style! :)

<< Comment #74 @ 18:17 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

T1E

DUEL FUN CUP ON TOXICITY

FUN CUP

FUN FUN FUN FUN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0

<< Comment #76 @ 18:50 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #74

What the...

<< Comment #78 @ 21:52 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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moppz - Reply to #76

lolololol

13 year old guys in a car :D

but i hate this map.. got raped hard today ^^

and: i have a new favoired song ..fun fun fun fun

<< Comment #79 @ 22:19 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

rizzah

love this map - most fun iv had in duel this cup ;)

really nice map to both play and spec, if its not included regularly i will be dissapoint

<< Comment #82 @ 23:17 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

By

This map pawns. So many tricks, action packed, +forward, fun to spec.

<< Comment #83 @ 23:37 UTC, 17 March 2011 >>

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Nukm

map looks like a keeper :)

thanks to esl, shoutcasters/streamers, players for the great cup

Edited by Nukm at 23:51 UTC, 17 March 2011

<< Comment #84 @ 00:03 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

Lorfa '

I've been playing it quite a bit.

It's a bit cramped but lots of fun.

<< Comment #85 @ 01:06 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

Bob

.

Edited by Bob at 03:31 UTC, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #86 @ 01:12 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

pks - Reply to #85

get a job

<< Comment #87 @ 01:14 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

Bob - Reply to #86

.

Edited by Bob at 03:31 UTC, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #88 @ 01:17 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #87

well then...

I wish you the best good sir.

<< Comment #96 @ 09:14 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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Bob - Reply to #88

.

Edited by Bob at 03:31 UTC, 28 June 2024

<< Comment #91 @ 03:32 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

zar4

This map is awesome imo

Beats the shit out of hektik anyway

Now we need a replacement for the other snoozefest maps, ALL OF THEM, except aero, thats still cool

lets see

t9
aero
battleforged
toxicity
dm6

Edited by zar4 at 03:33 UTC, 18 March 2011

<< Comment #94 @ 05:39 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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G.I. Jonesy - Reply to #91

Dm6?

<< Comment #100 @ 11:56 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #91

you nailed it

<< Comment #101 @ 12:07 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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CAREEM - Reply to #91

nice, but instead of bf i would give t7

<< Comment #114 @ 23:51 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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zar4 - Reply to #101

meh t7 has brang out so many snore games, not sure really, some people are really fun to watch on it (stermy, fox, dahang)

others make me want to kill myself, cooller rapha etc turn it into a hockey score

<< Comment #95 @ 05:46 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

nawak

hektik#2

<< Comment #97 @ 09:29 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

ArNoz

tbh honest zhu vs Kronic was far more entertaining than noctis vs fazz to watch.
It didn't seems that fazz had played a lot of match on this map though.

I'm looking forward to see this one in the mappool.

<< Comment #98 @ 10:01 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

daviezz

best map iv ever played, would be quite happy if they made QL a 1map pool and this was the map

<< Comment #99 @ 11:55 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

flynnT

i think it would be somewhat over the top removing ALL the slower +backish maps and replacing them with a map pool consisting only those close combat ultra fast high frag count badass mofo maps.

a good balance should be the goal.

<< Comment #109 @ 17:24 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #99

close combat ultra fast high frag count badass mofo maps.

word.

<< Comment #116 @ 06:02 UTC, 21 March 2011 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #99

Balance is only reasonable between things, all of which are desired, but impossible to attain at the same time. Slow +back maps are not desired at all and should be eliminated.

<< Comment #103 @ 12:32 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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sumatra

Thanks for the VODs. I see a lot potential there..

<< Comment #105 @ 14:12 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

By

34338

Deletion requested by user.

Edited by ath_ at 14:28 UTC, 18 March 2011

<< Comment #108 @ 16:17 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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no_il

No demos? =(

<< Comment #110 @ 17:36 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #108

Well, I can provide you with some demos from my pov:

round 1 default win
round 2 vs uashadow - lost - not so good - http://bit.ly/hHGQX5
round 3 default win
round 4 vs Luke - win (comeback from negative score) - http://bit.ly/f6cFxK
round 5 vs Jaops - win (comeback from negative score, 2 overtimes) - http://bit.ly/hO7sLH
round 6 vs uashadow - lost - hmpf - http://bit.ly/gFb6es

Maybe the comeback maps are somehow interesting, especially round 5 with 2 overtimes, on how to play when out of control and maybe some positional play too. Sadly I didn´t manage it to convert this knowledge to my last round vs uashadow. His pov should be found on an archived stream from cyberfight.ru.

I hope that´s alright... Besides of that, just spec some random public matches, sometimes you have luck and can find noctis, spartie or some other very good players practicing ;)

<< Comment #113 @ 20:11 UTC, 18 March 2011 >>

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no_il - Reply to #110

Cheers mate.

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