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Xai review (37 comments)
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Posted by koOma @ 15:07 CST, 1 December 2009 - iMsg
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<< Comment #1 @ 16:10 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
They like it
<< Comment #2 @ 16:13 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 koOma  - Reply to #1
LDO FOOL
<< Comment #6 @ 18:18 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #2
GFK BROTHER
<< Comment #15 @ 03:56 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By Norway netrex  - Reply to #2
LDO YOU FOOL!
<< Comment #17 @ 11:49 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 koOma  - Reply to #15
WAT.
<< Comment #19 @ 15:34 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By Norway netrex  - Reply to #17
Stop using "LDO". It's annoying and stupid.
<< Comment #20 @ 15:41 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 koOma  - Reply to #19
LDO
<< Comment #21 @ 15:58 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By Norway netrex  - Reply to #20
Exactly, so stop using it!
<< Comment #23 @ 17:22 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 koOma  - Reply to #21
FUKC YOU I WON'T DO WHAT U TELL ME!
FUKC YOU I WON'T DO WHAT U TELL ME!
FUKC YOU I WON'T DO WHAT U TELL ME!
<< Comment #24 @ 17:35 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #23
LDO
<< Comment #3 @ 17:24 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By t2 tourist 
"The first thing I noticed when using the Xai is how smoothly it glides compared to all the other gaming mice I have used recently."

"It performed well with every surface however I felt the best option was the SteelSeries QcK gaming surface."

apparently they're idiots.
<< Comment #4 @ 17:30 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #3
why
<< Comment #5 @ 18:09 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 koOma  - Reply to #4
because someone else said it wasn't so.
<< Comment #9 @ 18:23 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By Seychelles zealot  - Reply to #5
i only read about the kinzu skipping on qck's not the xai tbh.
<< Comment #10 @ 18:37 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By t2 tourist  - Reply to #4
because I have a xai and a qck and it's nowhere near smooth. edit, it doesn't skip
Edited by tourist at 18:38 CST, 1 December 2009
<< Comment #26 @ 15:15 CST, 3 December 2009 >>
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By Canada Anonymous (136.159.155.20)  - Reply to #10
Have you tryed other cloth pads? I'm pretty much never buying another plastic pad unless they come out with one that doesn't wear.

I'm pretty close to buying this mouse. Other than the Qck, I'm looking at the puretrack Talent.
<< Comment #27 @ 15:31 CST, 3 December 2009 >>
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By t2 tourist  - Reply to #26
I have 2 cloth pads and it doesn't glide nearly as well as a WMO w hyperglides. the main reason for not buying this mouse tho would be positive accel. since I've already bought it I'll try to get used to it for another week or so. If that doesn't work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1olVVhFhs2g
Edited by tourist at 15:32 CST, 3 December 2009
<< Comment #8 @ 18:22 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #3
Works great on QcK+. I use fairly high sens. tho so maybe it really sucks for low sens players.
<< Comment #28 @ 16:31 CST, 4 December 2009 >>
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By rah GreenMeanie  - Reply to #3
well i have the kinzu and i think they use the same feet as the xai
and personally i thinks their it way to much fiction on the QcK+
compared to my WMO.
<< Comment #29 @ 17:04 CST, 4 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 Bartender  - Reply to #3
or well payed to advertise another steelseries product
<< Comment #7 @ 18:19 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Just installed this mouse and its fucking awesome. No skipping on QcK+

Buttons and build quality are great. No complaints. It ownz my old Diamondback.
<< Comment #11 @ 20:53 CST, 1 December 2009 >>
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By djogedj h8m3 
if only there was 0 accel
<< Comment #12 @ 02:52 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 koOma  - Reply to #11
I don't think a slight amount of positive accel is too terrible in quake type games tbh. Think I'm gonna get it.
<< Comment #13 @ 03:17 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By Batman c1  - Reply to #12
there are still a lot of people who prefer no accel at all in quake.
btw there are actually other games than quake
<< Comment #18 @ 11:50 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By y h8 koOma  - Reply to #13
well obv. I'm just saying for me it prolly won't be a problem
<< Comment #14 @ 03:46 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By djogedj h8m3  - Reply to #12
it's not just linear accel a la cl_mouseaccel in quake(which is prolly the only game where accel is usable for some players). It's an awful acceleration curve (http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1795986#pid1795986), hf getting used to it and getting mouse feeling, especially those who additionally also use cl_mouseaccel in quake, will get a trash double accel superposition.
<< Comment #16 @ 05:17 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By United States of America Lorfa  - Reply to #14
What exactly would cause accel though?

If the mouse was mis-tracking and throwing out counts that would result in a negative acceleration yes?
<< Comment #25 @ 06:17 CST, 3 December 2009 >>
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By djogedj h8m3  - Reply to #16
yes, it would
<< Comment #22 @ 16:57 CST, 2 December 2009 >>
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By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Whats the best cpi setting for this mouse? I use 1800 atm same as my old DB.

Can you get better performance with different cpi? Whats optimal for Xai?
<< Comment #30 @ 18:59 CST, 4 December 2009 >>
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By DooM Pirx 
anyone who knows how it compares performance-wise to the logitech g9x? afaik they use the same sensor.
<< Comment #31 @ 09:43 CST, 7 December 2009 >>
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By t2 tourist  - Reply to #30
to me logitech g9 felt better than this so I guess its only on paper.
Edited by tourist at 09:44 CST, 7 December 2009
<< Comment #32 @ 11:00 CST, 20 December 2009 >>
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By DooM Pirx  - Reply to #31
hm, actually they're not exactly the same even on paper:

G9x specs vs xai specs:

5700 dpi vs 5001 dpi
165 vs 150+ dpi
12,0 mpix/s vs 10,8 mpix/s
unspecified vs 12,000 fps

not that the difference really matters as the dpi are overkill already and both sensors should be skipping-proof. however i see people complaining about the xai skipping in the newest posts of this thread, while i couldn't find any similar comments regarding the g9x, here or anywhere else:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1783117
<< Comment #33 @ 12:46 CST, 20 December 2009 >>
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By Red Star 2ShellBonus  - Reply to #32
both use the same avago laser sensor, the 9500 i believe.

Logitech and SS do not manufacture gaming sensors, neither does razer or anyone else for that matter
<< Comment #35 @ 11:11 CST, 31 December 2009 >>
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By DooM Pirx  - Reply to #33
sure. i've read somewhere that logitech has the exclusive rights for the slightly improved avago 9500. hence the difference in specs, although the mice use the same sensor.
<< Comment #34 @ 16:55 CST, 21 December 2009 >>
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By United Kingdom Anonymous (host86-144-98-65.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 
I have the xai and a Qck heavy and it has not skipped once since i got it pretty much on release. The large feet do give more friction than most other mice but on cloth pads it is not that much, and to be honest the slight friction is one of the reasons i use cloth pads... it stilll travels accross the mat consistently and does not cause it to snag or jump. Anybody having bad skipping problems most likely has dust getting into the sensor or just a dodgy sensor. I do hope they fix the slight pos accel but it doesn't seem to effect my game. I still think this is the best mouse I have used and I have owned many, i can't compare it to the G9x though as I have not used one.
<< Comment #36 @ 20:08 CST, 31 December 2009 >>
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By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Another review

http://www.pcshoptalk.com/content.php?172-Ste...ming-Mouse
<< Comment #37 @ 18:07 CST, 13 January 2010 >>
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By United Kingdom ZeritoN 
Been using Xai with QCK and the glide is fine. If you really want it REALLY smooth, get one of the Steelseries dot's. That stuff makes the mouse glide like nothing I've played on :P

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