eurovision crap

Theres lots of namecalling on this site, but to call anything eurovision bad is just crossing the line

Even internet has limits jesus christ

MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER than anything eurovision have EVER seen.

lol gay

same thing from you skandis every year. move on already.

I can't understand political movements like the NSF.

She does have a nice voice though.

They have their own points. some of they are realistic, some of they are just plain wrong. most of them are just.... correct.
most of the things this great woman sings are just truths.

I want my + back

kekekekekekeke. why ?

I suppose I'm a bit different, being brought up in a country with a large diversity and where I am a minority.

It some times shocks me how racist europeans are, when they don't even have any good reason to be.

racism nowadays is a bit way too far brought. i myself have no bad thoughts if i see a nigger walking at the streets (yes, nigger is a nigger, always been, always will be. saying someone is a nigger is "racism" noways) im not a racist. i just dont like that the slacker refugees just come here and live easily and do nothing. Even i know some niggers (black people) that are nice and im friends with them, i have nothing against them, theyre good, and they have nothing against me if i call then niggers, because THEY ARE. nowadays saying someone what they really are is just pathetic. And even i (who is often declared as racist or "neo-natzi") have learned much from niggers (black people) that i have been interested. Societies just teach many things really wrong and if youre not over-sensitive among many thing you have been declared something you are not.

nowadays societies are just about corruption and being over-sensitiviness which just creates agony and terror amongst people in a long run, atleast here in finland, and propably in every other country.

Nigger is just a word, it's not even offensive in South Africa. Besides, you don't even understand the meaning of the word. Imagine your grandfather was a slave, and your great grandfather was a slave, and your great great grandfather was a slave. And what they call them was "Nigger". They weren't calling you black, by the colour of your skin, they were calling you "Nigger" meaning you are a slave, less than human. If you then were called a nigger, remembering all the suffering your ancestors went through... it would be pretty offensive.

In SA we have a similar word "Kaffir" which surprisingly is an islamic word meaning unbeliever. It was a word used to refer to the blacks, who were below all other races. Considering what was done to them, I think they deserve to be called something else.

I can understand the frustration caused by refugees, but it's usually the hard working, law abiding imigrants that suffer because of those refugees. That said, I see the same shit everywhere. The British are scared of muslims, the Germans are scared of Turks, Eastern Europeans hate the roma, the middle east hate the jews and americans, etc. Even in South African, the blacks target the (black) refugees from other african countries.

I think we can all go a long way just from having respect for other cultures, and that includes those deciding to live in other countries.

Even before america made the word nigger famous from its slavery they have always been a nigger. And who cares what have been 100 years ago. You didnt suffer from being slave.

To continue in that useless nigger thing, i have no grudge against soviet union / communists even they killed my grand grand father and his brother and injured my grandfather. Why should i have ? Because its not my grudge, it was the times and conditions that ruled at that time. That russians / communists calls me finskies doesnt matter at all. because we are finskies / finnish ppl, why the hell we would care ?

niggers are niggers, palefaces are palefaces. idiots are idiots, commusists are communists, stupids are stupids. I mean WTF ?

why things cant just be what they are ?

nowadays you can be offended about ANYTHING. its really fucking pathetic. Its getting way too american in even in EUROPE.

I know what you mean, just keep in mind, that for some people, the scars are still fresh. I doubt that you would meet many people in Finland who's ancestors were black slaves, but it would be different if you were in the american south. (Or if you came to SA and started calling people kaffir.)

ps. don't go to South Africa and call people kaffir.

I hope he does.

ye, i know what you mean. but still, its just something really doesnt matter. TBH there have been MANY MANY MANY other ppl that other have been offended because of other ppl and nobody even cares about them anymore. Tho im going few centuries backwards, nobody nowadays even knows what pagan is, tho when christianity came to scandinavia, christians slain everyone who didnt agree with them, before christians, pagans didnt even have a word what they were, they were just livings their lifes with their own "religion and beliefs" and ways of life, then became the plague known as christianity and declared them as "pagans" a.k.a not enlightened (with a power of "christ") I could say i am a pagan and if i sue some damn witness of jehova or other religious maniac to justice, i get nothing, but if i call someone nigger at the streets, i can bet my balls i get atleast 1 year sentence in prison. Thats how fair this "racism" or religious "freedom" thing gets. Its not.

Yeah, they are all just words in the end, but I think I can manage to avoid using a word to spare someone their feelings.

My point is, that ppl get WAY TOO easily offended nowadays. They get so easily offended that its getting really pathetic, and that societies AGREE with that its OK to get offended so EASILY. its really really SAD. Only thing this leads to is agony.

For example, here in finland some finnish forums some islamic restaurant owner asked on some forums should he redecorate his restaurant to represent more his islamic views, he got answer that wasnt not so much pro-islamic, he thought it was offending, he brought it to justice department and afaik he won it......... i just mean.... WHAT THE FUCK, where is the fucking so called "freedom of speech" ????

It's not being offended, it is being angry and disgusted.
because idiots like that singer and you and others try provide a "moral background" for extremists to beat up strangers, put houses with children in them on fire and try to beat up everyone who thinks differently. Of course only when they are in the majority.
And they don't realize that through that action they make the relationship between different ethnicites even worse, so basically everybody suffers.

So yes, I hold people who talk like you or jamerio or that singer partly responsible for all the racist actions that happen today. And I feel deeply disgusted by it.

Especially, since I know how friendly other nations are to us when we visit there.


tl;dr:

Go get hit by a bus.

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removed egd typos.

If you're ever in Stockholm, you've got a beer and a jäger on me. Well put.

deal!

likewise when in Braunschweig or Hannover ;)

is it just me or, do i notice a lot of racial abuse coming from scandinavia in general or maybe naivete is a better term? perhaps because they are in some ways a bit isolated. I was pretty shocked to see how black people appeared to be regarded in stockholm when I visited.

All the Scandinavians I have met have been friendly to me personally. But 'm not black, so I can't say if there is a difference.

With foreign countries I really meant countries that are not counted among the "western nations", btw.

"All the Scandinavians I have met have been friendly to me personally."

your blond hair and warm aryan gaze instills safety in them.

Even before america made the word nigger famous from its slavery they have always been a nigger. And who cares what have been 100 years ago. You didnt suffer from being slave.

To continue in that useless nigger thing, i have no grudge against soviet union / communists even they killed my grand grand father and his brother and injured my grandfather. Why should i have ? Because its not my grudge, it was the times and conditions that ruled at that time. That russians / communists calls me finskies doesnt matter at all. because we are finskies / finnish ppl, why the hell we would care ?

niggers are niggers, palefaces are palefaces. idiots are idiots, commusists are communists, stupids are stupids. I mean WTF ?

why things cant just be what they are ?

Ask the jews. We hear them whining everyday about past...

who have been niggers?

You didnt suffer from being slave.

this is a weird statement because the descendants of slaves still suffer the economic and social repercussions of being descended from a lower class.

they make less money, have worse schools, more crime in their living environments, etc. their life expectancies are reduced and their lives are generally worse (statistically speaking).

so they do suffer from their descendants being slaves, just not by being slaves themselves. instead they have to deal with the history of subjugation and prejudice.

he's just a stupid white fin...

"idiots are idiots, commusists are communists, stupids are stupids"
I am glad you put aside idiots from stupids. Where do you fit?

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It's "poes" and I'm not coloured, where the hell do you learn this stuff?

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u smoke too much tik men

Hehe, the word nigger makes me laugh :D

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please don't think some Finnish idiot represents us.

There are idiots everywhere, but most Europeans aren't racist.

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aren't instead of are!

I'd say most europeans are xenophobes, not racists. As in not believeing races are superior to other races, but being scared and hating anything different from the local culture. The results are pretty much the same, anyway.

many yes, but I wouldn't say most.

And actually from some personal experience and also people I talked to, many Spanish people are not so keen on getting to know foreigners. Even their industry seems quite shut of in comparison to other EU countris.
What do you think about that? Agreement or disagreement, and also reasons :)

Agree. That's why I say many are xenophobe which is not exactly the same as racist.

no, you said most ;)

And from most countries where I have been, I would say many is true, not most!

Well, I said most cause I was replying to a post where you said most, basically.

whoops, I wrote are instead of aren't.
My bad!

To be fair much of that comes from the language barrier. And I don't mean not knowing English, but simply refusing to speak it (or being ashamed because of the accent or something like that, I don't know).

please don't feel a need to be defensive or fair, I know that my viewpoint is far from accurate.
I was just interested in Spanish opinions on that matter.
so thank you for yours.

Nah, I wasn't being defensive, I agree with your point.

ok.

I just read that from the "to be fair" part.

I know, I was generalising from the people I have met and spoken to through out the time I've lived and travelled in europe, I've been here a few years :)

well, it could be your perception is a little different then. (not saying we don't have racists and biases!)

But I believe that the different ethnicites you have in South Africa, are more represented by the different nationalities (and to some degree ethnicies) in regions of Europe.

Say for example, the UK or on a bigger scale maybe Western Europe from Scotland to Spain.
And when looking about the relationsship between those people I would say it's mostly good. Except for the repeated towel wars between the lower classes.

And that dpesite having a very long history of feuds and wars!

Most euros are racist because nationalism is racist. Kill all humans. eod

that says all and nothing, doesn't it?

I know, I always find it amazing how much LESS racist south africans are nowadays compared to foreigners. At least the non-orania types

not counting groups when comparing is not that fair, though.

I mean can I move to not count German shooting club members?

you do not take outliers into account when calculating a statistical average.

of course you do, that's why it's an average.
You might be thinking about a median.

it kind of startled me when you say that europeans seem more racist to you than southafricans.

i've met a few people from SA and while a lot of them have no problem with black people, some just won't stay in the same room with a black person.

something like that seems pretty strange, but then the others say that's quite common in SA.

i think to myself, if i was born in SA 1984, and was raised there, maybe i'd be the same.
or at least it would be more probable for me to be racist, than when i grew up in a country without apartheid.

what do you think?

Mostly, it depends on your parents and how you were raised. Most of the current generation of south africans (ages < 30) are pretty liberal regarding racist issues, but those raised by conservative Afrikaners are still following the ways of the older generations, and many of those tend to be the type to flee the country (OMG BLACKs ARE TAKIn OVER RUUUUUN)

yes of course, but also its more likeley to grow up in a racist environment, when raised in a country that had apartheid until 1990, as compared to growing up in most european countries.
thats kind of what i'm getting at.

thus why i was wondered when tbone said he was surprised by the amount of racism in europe.

I say that I am surprised, because when I had only lived in SA I believed that most white south africans must be some of the worst racists in the world, and that the people in europe would be liberal and accepting.

Also, a lot of white south africans do unfortunately have an understandable reason to be racist. They have been victims of crime, usually violent crime.

It is also true that I am talking about the younger generation of South Africans, the older generation (and most of the people that have left) are still pretty racist.

did you ever have a black girlfriend?

I've gone out with a coloured girl, which you may class as black.

Yes works, fyi.

We wouldn't call her black in SA.

What would you call her?

coloured

The coloured people in South Africa consider themselves a distinct race with their own culture. They are the decendants of the mixed children of the whites, blacks, asians etc.

South Africa is a politically correct place, but we don't shy away from calling someone white, black, coloured or indian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

pencil falls out? no deal.

If I were African I'd be pretty pissed if my friends and family were forced into slavery and shipped off to another country, then the very same people who did this eventually set up home next to where I lived.

Slaves were not taken from southern Africa, they were taken central and western Africa.

Africa is a pretty big place, the white people settled very far away from where the slavery took place. The white settlers actually had a fairly peaceful existance along side the black tribes. Some black people even fought against the british during the boer wars.

The "hate" in South Africa is directly a cause of Aparthied (1948), which happily ended nearly 20 years ago.

Its cool to be internet racist dont you know? YOU FUCKING JEW

:P

NSF may burn in hell. That's about it. At least their opinions.
SD (Swedish democrats) is even worse. They spend so much time to phrase their arguments so to most people their arguments looks valid and correct. That's why they're gaining so much voters lately, damn some swedes are dumb.
But when you look into it you realise they're a bunch of racists as well :E

speaking of beautiful female voice, I think this cover is pretty good.

cover of a cover?
PS. sheryl crow does have a nice voice.

Yeah I know its cover of a cover :) NIN->JC->SHE.

i am a little disturbed by the amount of plus' comments like "WHITE POWAAA" are getting

English-speaking Nazis are always a bit disappointing.

well, shes not a nazi, shes just declared as a natzi. which is even more disappointing.

http://thisissaga.com/

Scroll down a bit and look at the cover. I guess its obvious where shes coming from.

You mean Screwdriver ?

Nice one, danskie. She is not a nazi? Making records with bands who are involved with Blood&Honour?

Fucking racist nazi scum.

This is even more ridiculous than those Nazis who are mixing rap music with nazi lyrics.

well, she have not herself made any statements declaring herself being nazi. I have made myself covers of nazi bands like absurd and screwdrivers and others yet i am not nazi. neither neo-nazi.

Keep telling that yourself, nazi.

same to you, ignorant fool.

pls elaborate me being ignorant.

you know nothing about nazism.

Says the guy who made a journal about Hitler being "not so bad".

Also i think german 5th graders know more about nazism than you do. Hands down.

yep. glad you can remember, yet you know nothing about it.

Wow, you are pretty dumb.

Then again. What can you expect from nazis?

im glad how you defend yourself on calling others dumb when youre ignorant. grats. Thats the way to avoid arguments that results your loss.

P.S im not a nazi, you ignorant fool.

Defend myself? How am i in the need of defending myself?

You are the one who tried to defend hitler, you are the one who tries to tell us she's not a nazi, when it's fairly obvious.
I have all the rights to call you dumb.

Also i didn't remember us being in a discussion, hence i need no arguments.

You wanna start one? My point is:

German 5th graders know more about nazism than you do.

Edit: Let me get this straight: You, yourself, called her a "Nazi" and Neo-Nazi. What should i believe now?

tell me how she is a nazi.
the "nazi" tag is just that she have been DECLARED as nazi

and 5th graders in germany know nothing about nazism, they have just been taught to hate it and they know nothing about it, only that if you hear a word nazi, you should hate it without a doubt. And that is why no matter where and in what sentence you say a word hitler or nazi they generate instant rage effect = ignorance, idiotism.

P.S its funny how you manage to avoid your misconceptions with other things =)

Ignorance towards ... what? The idea of fascism? The idea of the aryan race ruling over everyone else, because they're aryan?

You're maybe right on the one hand, but on the other hand it's coming from the standpoint of a nazi and that pretty much makes it obsolete.
And that opionion wasn't generated by teachers or other adults (nor the media), but by myself and my experience with these people.

For now, i'll go get some sleep. Come to think of it ... i probably won't reply again.
Maybe becks will try and argue. I'm pretty sure he will. :)

sleep tight.

oh, and she's nazi scum. just like her Blood&Honour friends.

If you don't see that, you're dumb.

this is just plainly useless, because of your ignorance, youre blind to see my points what i have stated in my previous posts.

no the problem is that your lot seems to glorify a past that isn't even yours. As shown vividly in your journal, where you proved your lack of German history to everyone. Not that I am surprised you failed to learn your lesson.

And putting people into groups is always done by perception from the outside. NEVER by the people themselves.

For example: If I take a SUV to a Greenpeace demonstration, then take out a chainsaw and take down some tree, I can't just go and declare that I am doing everything to protect the eco system.

So, if people repeat ideas the national socialists were best known for (obviously the ideas themselves are much older) they will get called nazis for it. Because that is what they are.

But I always thought it's hilarious how all that brown shit works so hard not to be called facists and nazis. Especially here. REally goes to show how retarded and weak minded they are. No surprise there are so may unemployed and unhappy people among them.

naziscum is the word.

yep. Should write less when in drunk, makes me wanna go trollin' :)

oh, it's trolling now?

of course, you see he is a very normal member of society.
and he is only telling the truth!#

Shame on us for thinking differently.

"Maybe becks will try and argue. I'm pretty sure he will. :)"

:P

ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED

i came across in youtube with this extremely hot neo-nazi woman

link to journal plz

not a journal, but here goes http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1584927

Enlighten us with your wisdom.

yeah and when murderers don't declare they are murderers they really aren't.

Logic fail.

I don't think she's old enough to have been a member of the nazi party. So, obviously she can only be a neo-nazi, which would make her an even bigger douchbag.

I would go duke nukem on her
rip her head off and shit down her neck

Yeaaa !!! \:D/ Balls of steel !

hitler will rise again

hopefully not, he would be quite outdated nowadays =D

somebody should make clones of him.

I'd buy one.

Hell, I'd buy two.

PS. Will there be Jesus clones too?

nah i think whatever supposed dna material they have is too old/damage.

fuck, shit taste.

stomp the muds!

only watched a minute or so of the first video, and she's clearly off quite alot.

besides that, ignorant racists are a big waste of flesh.

Horrid music, she aint hot + no leather & whip = fail for a nazi women

Black nazi's = way cooler

http://www.discogs.com/Dopplereffekt-Steriliz...ease/43056

(click more images)

there's a band with kind-of your nickname in the recommondations :)

That's where he got his name from m8

ugly nazi bitch

http://www.pr0gramm.com/data/images/2008/02/4...764808.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOL9I2PEJzA&feature=related

poor girls. :/

hope that her (political) attitude will cost her anal virginity. to all bogeymen, if you meet her, you know what to do!

I'd be a raged Finn if I came from your country.

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is dat some Korean schoolgirls again?

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shit, you're all fucked up with this asian crap.

I knew it \o/

deserves to die

Hey hey, they may be wrong, they may be evil, but there is one right that I will allow them to have, and that is allow them their freedom, to believe in what they wish to believe and give them their freedom of speech.

In fact I would prefer to have them speak out, so that people can see how wrong they are.

Happens all the time over here in germany.
Which makes danskie look even more ridiculous, 'cause it shows that he has no idea what he's talking about.

"HOT" dumb chick with eurovision voice.
Fixed.

he really IS that dumb isn't he

Oh dear :(

Finnish racist squad strikes again. Dunno why all these really mean 4chan-browsing hobby-nazi's are from Finland.

yeah, i noticed the trend too

Like you said last time, a really strange percentage of these type of people on the internet turn out to be Finnish, and that's from a population of just 5.3 million.

600 years of getting assraped by everyone can do that sometimes.

inferiority complex?

maybe just an attention whores trend in a country basically nobody gives a fuck about

Just typical blackmetal.fi kiddies shouting 14/88 slogans and other shit so that they feel rebellious and anti-pc methinks.

It's not like they actually think what it means.

Good going condemning racism by labeling an entire population of 5.3 million from sayings of a single/few persons

Read that again, I am not condemning the nation of finland. I am condemning these guys(aka demu, ovo, danskie, and to a certain extent Pushbabon), who are all finnish. And many 4chan peeps being finnish as well. I have nothing against Finns, I've met and befriended many nice Finns, but it seems like Finland has a disproportionate amount of these kinds of hateful and insensitive young men.

lots of idiots here. especially ones who spend their time online..

Just remember when you speak to people like this, don't take the harsh approach, because your reasoning will never get through.

You need to be gentle, understand where they are coming from, and try to explain to them why the way they think may be offensive to others.

It's the only way cultures can mix.

Tried that, they kept it up, I now just ignore them. They didn't really seem inclined to listen, but I can't really blame them, not like I didn't have a hard time tolerating them saying things I find morally atrocious.

I can still be bothered to try to understand if its in real life, but I can't be bothered to try again on the internet where many seem to not mind acting like douches because they're behind a computer monitor(and I'm not referring to violent repercussions).

"(and I'm not referring to violent repercussions). "

we never would've guessed.

naggers, jews, homosexuals, mexicans, arabs, and all kinds of different chinks STANK, and i hatem'

look here NAGGER, that there is my girl, if anyone is gonna have sex with my sister it's gonna be ME

I can't understand you, go back to yer cuntry, WHITE POWER

IF YOU HAVE HATE IN YER HEART, LET IT OUT!

yer sayin there's different kinds of chink? they all look same to me

ahaha true :D