:O!

OWNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definately one of the best fleet demos out there. Worth of a check! :P

spoiler: he won

two bad neither of these players stand no chance against cooller or toxic

two (?) bad u dont stand any chance vs voo or zamuz.

:(

tu bad thats not the point here anyway is it.

no offense tho, just wanted to add to the nice collection of wrong spelled "too bads"

to bad ur stupid. to bad they picked up the game later. TOOO BAD. i really dont mean to go after ze americans :<

too bad ?

two bed

tew bat ?

two bad or not too bad that is the question ... tbh ;)

HAZU

disqualified.

damn

too bad none of them stands no chance = too bad they stand a chance

you guys are all wrong, its two bad!

if you say so

The double negation of something is an american stylistic device to underline the message of the negation, isnt it? So, 'not not' == 'very not' here :o)

maybe he betted "two beds" that zamuz and vo0 stand no chance vs coll/tox at nearest LAN? :D

lol, downloading

pretty nice demo, Vo0 played like he knew the map extremely well and his timing was fine, i think he forgot the mega timing once and missed the mega 2 times

gg

Nice one. Smooth moves and rails :)

Vo0's aim = $$$
won him the game here imo, but it is lost fleet and aim usually does win out:D
good mh control too

i think vo0 won because megahealth = $$$
his railing was not good but that's the disadvantage of high mousespeed
vo0 can move good i lajk it

yeah his rail wasnt good.

he certainly DOESN'T use a high mousespeed

does

As if you could know :) I do

z4muz being outaimed, enjoy it while you can!

not a big 1v1 guy but i thought z4muz quit or did he just come back?

got hired by mouz recently so he can't have been gone for a long time :P

shite! how am i missing a pak ... is this tourney using special map?

look, they shoot rockets with plasmagun??!

demo_enforceFS "1" before playing a demo

great demo, Funniest moment being the across the map rocket spam kill from the vo0'myster.

http://ingame.ingame.de/demobase/index.php?ac...mp;cid=173

some more demos from ingame q4 cup #4

omg, that dm3 game of toogood vs voo is soogood ;). jay's rail is ON!

vo0 need for speed wp!:)
z4muz also wp!

fatal1ty vs cooller vs vo0 vs czm vs.... i'm gonna crap my pants...

nice nice, wroth the time

totally agree here, best lost fleet demos so far

*edit* u just gotta love the movement!

nice rails indeed

i want to see zamuz on phrantic or blip, and see a good control of the map, zamuz`s timer was horrible, and the railgun the same too bad. well zamuz is comback awaiting 1 month more, and see the results.

Great demo but I wouldn't say outaimed since voo's railgun was pretty bad. He just played with more brain and better movements.

When I use demo_enforceFS it tells me I'm missing one pak-file. How do I know which one?

open the demo in some texteditor, the pak-files are listed at the start

Like a few people said here, Z4muZ has just started playing q4 seriousley, most of the good players has played 1 month more than him, just wait a month or 2 =) he will be on top of the world together with cooller making sweet frags.

I expect zamuz coming up as one of the top players in the next few month, too. ok, its not to hard to predict that.

+1. good to have another q3 star in q4!
now let's see when czm or zero4 hop in

one of the best demos so far. Seems q4 finally gets interesting :P

:)

plus whore!

:p

is it my fault that someone [+] a smiley?

must be, yeah.

going retrolan? i'll ra3 your ass :D:D

im might go, dno ;)

^.^

it was sarcasm.

:|

well its hard to get a read of sarcasm online ;)

no it isn't you very clever person you ;)

yeah me so stupid :S

omg a smilie, ILL PLUS YOU!111111111111

You are now an international star, because You've beat Cooller ;D

For community it was like Madonna kissed Britney oh!

:D

lol.................................

I really love the movement that fnatic is developing (ive only seen ztrider and voo so far).

The best sliding ever.

chex0r impulse moving. its far more advanced imo atm.

or maybe Vo0 just dont want to show all of his secrets ;-)

yeah vo0's movement is great, and his timing too.
but his aiming was seriously bad at the start. Later on it got better.

agreed. very nice movement and overall understanding of the map. two things he could do better:
1. hit something with the rail ;)
2. if going to upper ya on fleet, he needs to be more careful and look for snipers at lg and lower ya. That's something, that toxic makes pretty good on fleet.
ah.. and getting outshafted with 200/100, wtf ? :)

watched the demo 2 times now and I simply don't get why people keep complaining about his rail.
Sure: he missed 2 or 3 "easy" shots, but on the other hand managed to hit 5 or 6 rails in a row in other situations. Overall he got around 45-50% rail accuracy. Not that bad, is ist?

Very good demo, btw :)

agree with you

we are talking about perfection right? at this level of play, every mistake gets punished. z4muz aint cooller (at least not yet) skill-wise. there were nice shots of course, but it's not that hard to hit 45 rail in q4. especially on fleet, where you just wait until someone walks into your aim... there were situations were he missed easy rails, that gave the enemy an armor or mh. i saw the demo and thought that the only thing he could not really practice by playing pk is rail aim. his movement skills are superior, rocket aim, even shaft aim is great. but stake feels very different compared to rail, so if I would be a personal coach of vo0 (which I am btw. he pays me lotsa money to teach him all my quake secrets!) i'd suggest to work on the rail to win the WT...

I totally agree with you that perfection is very important on this skill level and I do play the game long enough to understand, that missing some shots can cost you a whole game.
It's just that when I first read the comments I was expecting his rail was totally off, but when I watched the demo I thought he actually hit quite well. Not perfect, but not bad either :-)

And people keep talking about 45% rail not beeing that hard. But when I look back to the last ton of games, I specced, people didn't hit easy 60% on a constant basis, either.

Well I was simply surprised, when I watched the demo, that was my whole point.

I have to agree, that improving his rail might be a good idea if he wants to stand a chance against the very top players, though.

Actually, my rail is alot better now than it was before pk, that i played two years; does not really make sense, but still -- it's my best weapon in q4 :o)

probably due to the speed of PK. i found when i came back to quake series after playing pk, everything felt so slow and easy to hit, and my aim with every weapon was like 5x better. which is why we need TIMESCALE IN MULTIPLAYER !!!! ;((

true, and there is no hitting between the legs :]]]

..

;))

use your bankai to hit there =D

Dude, you just don't say things like that in public.

=D

whats bankai? google 4tl

Don't google it. Once you find out what it is and out of curiosity you wan't to see it in action, you've already lost. Good bye life.

could someone tell me the scores please. (dont have q4)

Voo won 25-12

zomg spoilerz

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What was so special about his movement?

Looks like your everyday Q4 movement to me are other players not using crouchslide (even the little slides over the items)?

No. Not most of the pro's either.

It's just awesome how he crouches around corners without losing any speed.

Yeah but that is quite normal in Q4 (At least I thought it was although I havn't watched many demos).

Havent seen that many players yet using it that much and efficient. And its not that easy as it seems :).

I dont have pak013.pk4 in my baseq4 :( mb its writing with 1004 Q4 patch?

Well what catched my eye is the speed i managed to create when going to the upper ya (from the 5h blips), never saw any use in crouchsliding, but in this demo i can.
It goes "insanely" fast compared to just "strafejumping"

got some q's.
-what q4 version are these demo running at?
-is there some additional files that I need to install or I can just play them from the console? (mods, maps, etc)