Well, people will probably recommend other pads, for better reasons..
But recently I got a Logitech G440 hardpad and I like it quite alot, it's only 340x280. It's alot glidier than the QcK (regular+mass). And it's big enough to fit up to 40cm/360 easily imo.

Dunno about other hardpads, so can't compare it to any. But I'm definetly impressed by the low friction it has.

Which mouse are you using it with? :)

I must admit I'd never considered trying a hardpad before but I'll certainly look into your suggestion. Thanks.

Using a Kana v2 on it, G100s is also totally fine with it.

Thick, smoth paper with tons of silicon in it. Nothing beats it. You just change it every couple of days

sounds a little awkward to set up :P

Not really, you secure it with tape. I use A3 format paper

I believe the Artisan Shidenkai is the smoothest soft pad on the market, if not ever, but it looks pretty insanely fast. There are a few steps in between that and the Hien.

Also if your g400s still has stock feet they might have just worn down and need replacing with some new teflon.

Isn't the shidenkai made of glass, or has a glass coating or something? I'd try it but I'm just worried it will kill my mouse feet. I remember tox saying on stream that he has to replace his hyperglides every few months just from using his icemat.

It has a glass coating. I imagine it could be pretty hard on your mice, but probably less so than an Icemat. At the end of the day either your mouse pad is hard and erodes the softer feet, or is soft and gets eroded by the harder feet. You're going to have to replace one more frequently than the other.

Also if you're buying hyperglides you might as well buy in bulk, at least if you ship them to where I live. But at the moment I intentionally use a soft pad to avoid mouse feet wear.

That makes sense, thanks. I'll try and order some hyperglides and see if I notice any difference. Maybe a regular cloth pad will be okay then after all.

that Shidenkai looks really nice , think im gonna order one.

however now im using a Maxtill g2 - pad , which is frosted glass , and so far its so much better then a cloth pad (for me), micro adjustments (LG) just is so much better.

In combination with hyperglidez on my wmo , its like its floating on air.

But you may need to lower your sens a little , and its not as good for fast railgun twitch shots, because its not as easy to "stop".

I ordered it on ebay , not very pricey , and should last forever. Not that big of a pad tho.

Btw, as for glasspads, they are ard and make alot of noise, but with headphones and a clot pad under it , its still a good feeling.

Btw , on this glass pad my wmo seems to work better then on cloth, i dont get weird spinning bug.

But i think you need optical , your mileage may vary =p

How often do your mouse feet last with a frosted glass pad?! :D

hey , havent had it long enough to answer that question , should last some time i think .

I have sanded down the hyperglides so they have more contact surface .

Besides the feet arent pricey anyways =)

Same as tox uses , and he swaps em out like a month before a tournament , because after some time they start to glide not as good on his glasspad . And yes too much glide is not really a good thing for a game like quake atleast .

Using cloth now feels like the mouse doesnt glide at all :P

I remember tox said he likes them slightly worn because they feel "crispy" haha x)

And that's really cool, unfortunately I'm unable to find a Maxtill G-2 pad anywhere, even on ebay. The micro adjustments for LG are what I miss the most yeah, just not the same on slower pads :/

Where did you find one to order from? Cant find any

Ebay, and it was the only one that i could find.

But there are several maxtill g-3 pads , since this is the newest pad they have out.

But i could never figure out its real size, since they are using some amount of the size just for theyr logo, or i am mistaken.

Im sure the g-3 isnt worse , and comes in nice colors =)

thought you had bought this - Artisan Shidenkai

ah , no , i want to try it tho , looks like it has good sides from both glass and cloth =p , but i think you can order from theyr main site

http://www.artisan-jp.com/item_shidenkai_mid_eng.html

I got my Hien (the large red one) from Amazon for £27 including shipping. The shipping did take about two weeks though, since it was imported directly from Japan.

I've just checked and they have an orange shiden-kai on amazon UK for £25 including delivery: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SHIDEN-KAI-XSOFT-Oran...mp;ie=UTF8

No large version in stock though, from what I can see :/

Zowie G-TF Speed
Steal Series DEX

Zowie G-TF Speed
+1

I'd been using them for more than a year, much faster than Artisan Hien, nearly as fast as Shidenkai.

Beware of the edges which can harm your skin. Also my pads wore down quite fast as I press on my mouse hard.

Nice, that really sounds like what i'm looking for. are there any other problems such as the mouse malfunctioning on the pad, or the pad getting dirty quickly?

Read Cat's guide on gear and settings http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...-Settings.

He also had used G-TF Speed.

It's hard to make flat at start, takes a week or so. Dust removal is easy, but you do need to do it.

FYI:
I played 3 months of 5-6 days a week 2-6 hours a day and it made a region of my G-TF more frictiony. But I'm pressing my mouse hard... After that I tried recovering, partly successfully, like this: http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...post299099

That's a really nice article, thanks.

I had a similar problem with my QcK fnatic actually, what I ended up doing was sticking the mousepad in a room with ice cold air conditioning and it was as good as new. I have no idea why it worked since the first time was an accident.

I also had many mousepads and Zowie G-TF Speed seems to be one of the best for me. It's durable, fast, easy to clean, Money well spent :)

How long does it last for you? Under what conditions (playing time and hand relaxation)?

Got mine for 9-10 months now. I'm playing almost everyday (well, actually had a 2 months break not that long time ago, so lets say that my mousepad is 7 months old). My whole wirst lay on the mousepad.
My hand get used to the harsh feeling of the mousepad.

Thanks for your suggestions. I'm really considering getting the G-TF Speed. Are there any negatives to such a mousepad?

As you can see from other ppl'a posts,
Some ppl might not like the feel of the surface.
Which I did not care much, you will get used to it anyway.
Also the red zowie logo tag on right top of the pad can disturb your aim sometimes.
But you can just put it upside down, or just remove if you really don't want it.
G-TF rough is also good.
More chalacteristic texture but the speed is close to the speed version, and you get more control.

But if you have mid+accel, or high sensi, then I recommend dex over G-TF.

Not sure what you'd consider mid/high sens, I have 33cm/360 with no accel. Would the rough g-tf still be as fast as the speed? (I guess not from the name but yeah)

Yes I think 33cm is in the range of mid sens.
Rough is still fast, but speed is a bit faster imo.
It's the texture difference.
Speed has the smooth texture which allows u to move your mouse really quickly
Rough has the rough texture which allows you to move your mouse quickly, but it's also quick when you want to stop the mouse

Go speed one if you like a fast pad,
After that you can think about rough one.

I think I'd go for the speed one then, seems like what I'm searching for. Thanks! :)

Plz post your experience with it when you get it.

will do, just trying to find somewhere that ships to the uk first! :)

cant recommend the Zowie G-TF Speed at all, the bumps on both edges of the pad never went away, even after 2-3 months not...even putting stuff on there for a week didnt do anything.

And the friction of the G-TF Speed also feels terrible + it feels like the pad was killing your wrist if you were moving around on it fast, as if you were moving your arm/wrist on sandpaper...would never buy it again, probably the worst pad I ever had.

Would rather test the SS Dex, looks intresting after all, but for now im really happy with my hardpad. Some people also like glasspads alot, I think tox uses one as well.

I still love g-tf tho I've been using dex for months now.
The glide is almost as smooth as frosted glass pads but at the same time it's really easy to stop your mouse so you don't have to push your mouse to stop it, or takes extra bit of time to stop it.

It's really the combination of good part from hardpad and clothpad.
The only thing is it has only 1 size and its small.

But I still love it.
This pad is the reason why I added accel )

Slip and slide with the hose running.

glass

shiden white, biggest and fastest

You mean this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/SHIDEN-XSOFT-white-SA...mp;ie=UTF8

Is it really that good?

yep

hyperglides + clean cloth pad = better then standard skates on any hard pad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2sXr_TuDko

Interesting :)

very interested in this, unfortunately can't find it for sale anywhere :/

The razer control mousepads are rather slick.

Fastest mousepad is 2 cogs and a slip mat.

That way it moves with you.

silicone spray

Speaking of rag pads - roccat taito works super fast for me, recommend.

I found taito just barely faster than stadard QCK Heavy, wouldn't really consider it fast at all. QCK team pads are faster, Goliathus Control much faster.

i use a shiden and it doesn't kill mousefeet

I recently got a Artisan Raiden and its very fast and it seems to track better for me than a Artisan Shiden-Kai (which also was fine on my mousefeet though)

I don't think you quake players know about the Powersupport Airpad Pro III. I've been playing osu on it for years.*

Is that a mousepad for ants?

Sorry, I'm not a super low sens FPSer. The largest version of that pad is 40.8cm x 30.6cm ($128 shipped though..)

Ah, apologies then. I did find a larger version, but it was only half that size.

Right now mine is mounted on a 440 v8 engine, but I'm thinking about converting to bio-diesel.

As long as you don't go for an hybrid, we are safe from the snob fog.

You're looking for Qpad CT, fastest hybrid mat ever. Ss qck fnatic seems so slow in comparison