first!

fuuuuuu !! :-)

Seriously, get a life, pal.

On upcoming Sunday there will be a zotac-like duel cup: http://xoneu.tourney.cc/pages/rules/
A good opportunity to watch games from all skill levels and to get in contact with the community.

ZeRoQL playing xonotic :O

When MG gets replaced by LG, maybe we can also attract some frenchies ;)

send me a friend request there asy :D

there is no friends list feature yet :x

Wow. Does this mean it already has cheats?

ololo

Probably just helping to develop the first cheat.

i only tried it for a short while before dinner but it seems nice.
i like the CPMA like movement and how the weapons pop people up in the air.
the rocket launcher was slow like in Q2/Warsaw/Q4 though, which i don't like very much.

Good job, i will try it out some more now.

cpm, not cpma

aw right, I'm very sorry.

its a big difference

I know i know.... but still, its just an 'a' added no need to get all emotional. again I'm very truly sorry.

I don't know if this can be forgiven man. At least your left leg must go!

1) warsOw
2) Warsow's rockets are faster than q3/ql/q2/q4

i can only compare warsow to ql but at the very least the rocket reload time in ql is a fair bit faster!

Weird choice of weapons in this game. I like the easy movement approach tho. I think thats he right way to attract new players, make the movement as simple as possible for beginners.
But why taking out the weapons that have been working for so many years? No LG = no fun, thats how i see it.
Greetz

LG was present in 0.1 alpha release and will return in the future. It was just very hard to balance out and add any unique features to it.
But it WILL definately come back for 1.0, though I have no idea when that'll be released :F

aight, nice to hear that :)
Its pretty easy to judge a game when its still in beta i guess, keep it up, i do think this kind of FPS game, is the future.
Easy movement = win

looks like a very shit version of q3 promode/PQL/quakeworld/warsow combo. what am i missing?

q4

...still, gj though.

[-]

wait for 0.7 warsow

Wait for mooaaar promod ? nah thx.

I'm looking forward to wsw .7 more, but I'm still going to try this :)

pretty cool game

It reminds me a bit of Painkiller with Q4 sounds and QW maps.

word!

cant u just play quake instead of trying to split up an already unstable community with shittier games?

why major this shit? its not in quakes best interest.

Haha. Censorship will save Quake!!!

No one splits community exept ID Software. They don't want to make Quake popular. Shit netcode, boring client-site, unuseful stats. And after that they want money for the unstable and buggy game? Fak them!

Xonotic, Warsow, OpenArena, AlienArena, even CPMA - they are result of players' dissapointing of the OfficalQuake.

FAAAAAAAAKKKK!!!!!

Awesome game.Cya on the duel servers :)

Tried it. Feels more a kin to UT than Quake.

Yeah, I've always seen Nexuiz/Xonotic as the UT to Warsow's Quake. (Although they're both based on Quake engines.)

Will anyone stream this cup? Or is there GTV?

should be there: http://www.twitch.tv/morfah

hadn't heard of this until now!
edit- or if I had I forgot about it very quickly!

any video of the actual gameplay?

It seems you have missed a news:

http://www.esreality.com/post/2230512/xonotic...al-videos/

0.6 duel looks more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox9bGoGEYFI
(longer weapon delay, different armor system)

zeroql helping with hax developing in xonotic yet?

What he did was utterly retarded and imo harmed the game. On the other hand:
1) He tested it, so obvious and stupid, but still didn't use it in official matches like zhu or fragma from what I can tell.
2) He got punished hard. Lost his team and got excluded more or less from the community.

Personally for me that's the past, he got punished enough. Sadly there are no clear guidelines by id on how to handle bans like that.

Anyway, xonotic is a different game with a different community. Most people there don't even know who he is, he starts from zero like everyone else.

Sadly there are no clear guidelines by id on how to handle bans like that.

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it's a lifetime ban. If not, it should be.

If there were strict guidelines you wouldn't have to speculate ("pretty sure") and zhu wouldn't be playing either.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC23B3F...ature=plcp

and some TDM action

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC23B3F...ature=plcp

Interesting and fun to play for me. keep up it up! :P

after searching 10 minutes for cvar that would turn on fps counter i give up on the game

Didn't realize the game had an inbuilt retard protection. Some futuristic stuff right here.

when did u become so bitter? u were much nicer when u played RtCW :X

May I help you then, Good Sir:

http://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/images/xdgwkm0hkgetyggszn.jpg

fuck me, i overlooked :-|

on a side note, it would be nice if all the g_ , bot_ and other useless cvars were not shown in advanced options... would be much shorter and clearer

Advanced is really only a GUI for the console. I actually don't even know why it's there :D Btw. it's not trivial, but you can search with wildcards there.

http://www.justin.tv/morfah the stream about the quick 1v1 cup finals asyyy mentioned above starts just now!

VOD from the grand final: http://www.twitch.tv/morfah/b/311379997
all credits go to morfah

watched some of it. hmm, timing items, jumppads, rockets jumps and even still playing hub... i dont know, i expected something a little bit more unique :/

unique weapons, unique movements, what about that? :P
only focus on the negative things tzz

whats unique about the weapons? i didnt play it so cant really judge it, but it seemed pretty similar to what we had in the quake series before minus the guided rockets.
i mean i have no problem with not reinventing the wheel in every aspect. its just that overall the game feels like a slightly altered quake and then you gotta ask yourself why you should switch to it.

It's funny because nearly every quake player who tried the game in the begin complained about the diversity of weapons. Whether or not one likes the secondary fire mode and the quite big arsenal of weapon compared to quake is a question of personal taste. Compared to quake only the nexgun which is close to the railgun and the shotgun which is close to qw boomstick would be nearly equal. To explain all the weapons I would have to put on a wall of text, if you really care just download the game and give it a try yourself.
Well, another thing is, Xonotic emerged out of Nexuiz which was started around 2001 afaik. It's by no means targeted to be "a better quake" and to steal players from quake live.
As for reasons to switch, that's quite personal again. For me something like that comes into mind:
- Very nice and passionate community, which actually DOES something to improve the game instead of just being dickheads talking about good ol' times and how much other games suck
- The game is evolving, while for example QL is pretty stale. On QL you got the same maps, same tricks, same angles.. its very rare that someone discovers a novelty.
- It's 100% FOSS. People got control, not some institution.
- It's fun :)

maybe i should just give it a try, my comments are based on seeing parts of the the duel final vods

Hate to sound negative, but what's the point of a game like that if we're just going to play maps that play better in other games.

You can't please everybody :D
A few times ago old Quake farts always asked "Is there a Darkzone? Is there Aerowalk? Is there xyz old quake1/2/3 map?"

We do have our own original 1v1 maps, like Stormkeep, Final Rage or Drain, but those were somehow eliminated from the cup most of the time (I'm not even sure Drain was in the mappool at all). Don't ask me for the reasons though, but I think it was just that the pickup players are already fed up with those maps :D
New maps are constantly WIP, but a high quality map (visually and in gameplay too) sometimes needs months to build, so please be patient there.

So in your mind every game that has at least one map from another game is crap? :x
Well there are two reasons why we have quake maps in the mappool. First, there are not enough quality maps yet that are unique content. It's simply damn hard to create a really good duel map and no one really wants to play unbalanced medicore maps. Secondly, we have some quake players trying the game. For them the entrance into xonotic get's easier if they can at least stick to one map they know in the beginning and learn about movement, weapons etc.
(Third, my very personal opinion: hub plays great in xonotic, for sure more fun than in quake live :) )

SELF-GUIDED ROCKETS???


:(

Nah,u guide the rockets with holding m1.

No, you can guide them yourself within certain limits by keeping mouse1 pressed down. It looks easy when watching good players but it takes some time to master because of the high rocket speed (1100-1300ups).

looks interesting

does the game have similar mouse acceleration settings as ql? especially cl_mouseacceloffset

Basically that's what it has:

m_accelerate is "0" ["1"] mouse acceleration factor (try 2)
m_accelerate_filter is "1" ["0.1"] mouse acceleration factor filtering
m_accelerate_maxspeed is "10000" ["10000"] above this speed, full acceleration is done
m_accelerate_minspeed is "5000" ["5000"] below this speed, no acceleration is done

Though no one seems to use it or knows how exactly it works. I'll open a request to add cl_mouseaccel like it's implemented in ioquake3, if that's the same as in ql?

Till then windows users could use this: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1944158

alright, thanks

i really have no clue behind the mechanics, but i've FINALLY found perfect settings for me and it would be a shame to have to use something different for xonotic (or any other fps) or forcing me to switch in ql ;/

As far as im aware hub was only in the mappool purely for the reasons stated by asyyy. Secondly asyyy it doesn't play that well in Xonotic currently, and it needs a proper remake for it to fit well, although id rather see maps like drain in its place as CB said, it also plays much better but needs an armour moving on it into the water tunnels, for it to be perfect imo.

It seems like a fun game, too bad my shitty laptop cant handle it.

This! Took hours of tweaking to get 70fps at 800*600. Even QL has stable 125fps on the same laptop and was at least 90 before the updates.

Also wtf is this automatic dash when double clicking a movement key? I can't aim with keyboard anymore, I just jump out of every corner!

Good that u mention that so i can clear this up for everyone else.This ''automatic dash'' as u call it is only part of the OVERKILL MOD which has nothing to do with the actual game.It happens way to often that people join that overkill server and think thats the actual game.

Thanks for pointing this out!

Now I am thinking about giving it a second try looking more closely to the cvars.

Could you tell me please which version of the darkplaces engine is this based on?
It craps itself on my atom based HTPC, and I have to boot up my gamer rig if I want to play. It's so annoying that it's 2012 and COD2 is still the only veteran fps what can use all the four cores, and my favs can use no more than only one:(

Xonotic 0.6 is based on... well, the Darkplaces engine. I know there are "official" stable releases, but we usually follow the master branch of SVN Darkplaces, and have our own branch too for the game, stripping out experimental and unstable stuff, the branch Xonotic is based on is the div0-stable branch. So for a very detailed, and technical answere, look at here:

http://git.xonotic.org/?p=xonotic/darkplaces....3be73eda87

That is the last commit of div0-stable, so THAT's the Darkplaces version for Xonotic 0.6

On the other issue of using multiple cores, fixing and helping that is unfortunately out of our bonds. Though divVerent has a fairly good understanding of the engine, Darkplaces is still a one man project by LordHavoc, he knows all the tiny details of the engine. The topic has been brought up several times on Xonotic forums too and IRC, if you want, I can get back to you with more detailed answeres why it not happened yet.

Edit: Sorry for the double post before, ESR forum motor puked on me...

Edit2: Words from divVerent:

divVerent> CuBeW0rK: the issue with CPU load we currently have cannot be fixed by multithreading
divVerent> I actually tried... which didn't do much
CuBeW0rK> am I right on the sound stuff though?
divVerent> then turned out the apparent bottleneck got moved, total fps stayed about the same
divVerent> sound stuff?
divVerent> sound is in an extra thread
divVerent> what really reduces total fps is model animation
divVerent> once someone manages to move that to the GPU, we will have huge win
divVerent> just not doing model animation on the CPU, but working the same way otherwise only gained 5%
divVerent> even though in profiling, model animation is 50%
divVerent> which is explained by the nvidia driver being multithreaded itself
divVerent> so the vertex upload is offloaded to a thread - and takes about as long as our vertex processing
divVerent> if we did model animation on the GPU instead, we wouldn't have to upload the vertexes each frame
divVerent> and THEN it's substantially faster
divVerent> there also is a cvar
divVerent> by which you can try what fps you would get with on-gpu animation
divVerent> mod_alias_force_animated 0
divVerent> turns off all animation
divVerent> (then do r_restart)
divVerent> it loads all models as static meshes of the reference pose
divVerent> looks ridiculous, but gives quite a fps boost
divVerent> it has very similar performance to what we would get with on-GPU animation
divVerent> this for me gave about 30% fps
divVerent> with about 20 players visible
divVerent> and - CPU load below 100%
divVerent> so, GPU bound again
divVerent> but it isn't saved as it's ugly
divVerent> if they really want it permanently, put it in autoexec.cfg

thanks a lot!

I will try the settings as soon as the kid goes to the bed tonight;)

I regularly play quake1 with darkplaces and I noticed that there was a huge slowdown after the 28-06-2011 version. I'm not saying that it was awesome before that, but at least hyperthreading was working and almost doubled the framerate with RT light/shadows enabled, while HT did nothing with any newer version. Let's hope LordHavoc will fix it one day, because darkplaces is a really good engine imo, especially on DX10.

Mind it, that way now you'll really get the most shit looking game of all time :D

look is really the last thing I care about when I'm playing online with an FPS (except it's something mindblowingly beautiful and I only run around because of the aesthetic:p)

o.O where is our conversation from here? I spent the last hour messing with the config, and I want to try out what you suggested, but its no more:(

edit: nvm.... I replied and it suddenly appeared. so it was not a double post at all.... the site is seriously falling apart:(

Yep, I had that today too.

same happened to me the other day.

You guys really should make a config guide about most useful cvars, cos there is way too many to go through them one by one. A guide about how to turn the default Barbieland config into a competitive one would be much appreciated.

Also, how to make the picture scaled to the full (vertical) size of the monitor? It doesnt video card setting, cos there it is all set up well and works for every game except this one. Thanks!

http://forums.xonotic.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=19 <- an whole forum dedicated to configuration tips