I think everyone knows this United team is their weakest for a long time , so fuck knows who is overrating them ?and Man City haven't done anything, so why would they be rated ? yeah they spent alot of money, but they've only won a domestic cup and nothing else.
I hope Real beat Barca but i don't expect it will happen.
It would be the best final possible and there is always drama when they play each other so you know something will kick off .

That's the general vibe i've been getting. City was hyped from game 1 of this season as the "next big thing" and were supposed to be the movers and shakers on the international scene. United was raping stuff left and right at the start of the season and everyone was like "SIR ALEX DID IT AGAIN" without noticing that he still didn't get a trueblood playmaker second season in a row.

Though, to be fair, i think United is still in a transitional period so probably by next season they'll be back full strenght. City i don't know about, they seem like a really volatile mixture and Mancini does not look like the best man managment person to me, a little bit too much drama in the squad to get true cohesion.

City probably would have qualified if Mancini had picked his strongest line up and the usual attacking formation they use in the league.City will win the league this year without too much trouble i expect,the other top teams are not up to it this year.
Yeah , Fergie should have signed a top class central midfielder.Not to mention he sold Brown and O'shea which left them short of people that can play right back (which has resulted in Smalling playing there) The Da Silva twins are always injured or banned so they are pretty much wastes of space aswell.
Spurs are looking good this year , minus the Europa League games lol.

maybe in your country...in the uk city were seen as having a good chance of taking 3rd/4th spot this season, not winning the league

theyll win the europa league
chelsea > barca in champions league finals through luck
next season man city top 4 champions league o;

BAYERN!

inb4 Manchester final in Europe League.

Depending on how seriously they take the competition.Fergie will not give 2 shits about the Europa League if the Premier League is at stake.

made my day! united's center midfield is a joke and has been for a while. forget barcelona when they can't even beat baselona. hehe :D

city can be excused somewhat but still a fail considering how well spurs did last season.

Football gone shit in UK since the arabs just started pouring money into thier city squad.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/30/art...68x351.jpg

COMPARE COSTS TO CURRENT LEAGUE POSTION.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_...efault.stm

When a team can afford to sign a single striker that cost many times more than some teams entire teams, you have to question the point of the league.

Fans have to pay more to watch the games, and for what, so we can see overpaid foreigners/morons on 400k a week to kick a football around for 90 mins who would play just as well for 10 times less.

Its unsustainable. Or they should just have a super league. Cos atm the prem is essentially 3 seperate leagues.

4 teams stand a chance of winning (i.e. man city), 5 teams will fight for relegation (i.e.Swansea) and the rest will stay in the league (i.e. everton).

i hope we play barcelona in the final and wilshere shows up cesc and xavi with 3 assists for an rvp hat trick at the nou camp, with tv and the pole in the goal letting nothing through

i can dream

I am American and what is this

both soccer teams from manchester got eliminated in the group phase of the european world soccer series

the words european, world, and soccer just do not mix

european world soccer series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series

What, does anybody not know that?

You seemed not to.

So, because I wrote 'european world soccer series', I don't know what the World Series is? You serious?

Then why did you write that? It looked like you were pointing out a mistake.

edit: Actually, it still looks like you're missing the point. USA calls their national championships "world series", and that's what he was poking fun at.

I know. The whole thing is an hilarious 'wat' of a description of a football tournament. It's not American, it's not a World Series.

this is not important, the fake 1-7 from lyon and the 2 goals that got cancelled from ajax was bullshit..

Yeah, that was very fishy, indeed.

don't forget Dortmund Marseille 2-3 as well, where Marseille with a terrible team made the 2 goals they needed the last 5 mins and the players of Dortmund were defending with their eyes. But yea, what happened to Ajax is outrageous. Interestingly in both cases French teams passed, which makes it even more fishy.

too much crap this season

and whos the boss of uefa.. yes a french man.. it started witht eh fucking 2 goals they cancelled -_- stupid ref

i blame strenx

100/1!

Yeah, i wanted to mention that but i forgot for some reason. Extremely suspicious, even Mourinho was disturbingly quiet about referee mistakes that game, he's usually very vocal about them. Also, Dinamo was, iirc, already under investigation about corruption allegations.

Well, we all know UEFA is full of shit. Maybe they're just a bit more full of shit than we realized it (and if there was any fixing i think they're behind it, considering how apprehensive they are about launching an investigation).

it will take years before they will figure out something

Lyon vs Apoel in C1
Ajax vs MU in C3

Another proof that it's rigged, isn't it ?

3rd of each group should just go home. It's unfair to give them another chance in the EL.

BENFICA VS REAL MADRID AT FINAL

hahaha u wish

what a ludicrous display last night

You mean it is a one team race. Barca...

yeah old thread :D