ESR - MLG Live 4th of July Broadcast

<< Comment #1 @ 05:09 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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frs

Quake Live 1v1 Showmatch - Sweden Toxic vs Poland srs.av3k, winner vs Belarus srs.Cypher - Best of 3/5

[+] for you, 3 of the most amazing quakers to grace QL

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<< Comment #2 @ 05:13 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Slasher

Sorry it took so long to post this. But I have gotten toxic to agree on making a stream duel appearance. :O)

I will be commentating along with various pro's throughout the night. I have asked 2GD to join me for Toxic's games. Hope he's around as I haven't heard back...good chance?

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<< Comment #8 @ 05:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #2

hope not. get rapha/stermy instead

Edited by Dird at 05:30 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #147 @ 14:34 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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asus_boom - Reply to #8

hope not for 2gd, r u fucking out of your mind? He is the best Quake commentator out there, he made QL fresh and nice for Non Quakers, this guy was born to comment Quake. Nobody will ever be better than him :*** . <32gd f0r3v3r!

<< Comment #57 @ 08:46 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #2

I heard he went away somewhere to change the e-sports...

Edited by p4r4 at 08:47 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #88 @ 11:21 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Thorin - Reply to #57

he joined AGP?!?

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<< Comment #67 @ 09:33 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #2

nice, thanks :)

<< Comment #117 @ 13:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #2

[+] for the efford, sir! really awesome job!

though, not for you casting. :P

<< Comment #138 @ 14:05 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ani - Reply to #2

And [+]'d for your beard!

Oh and for everything you keep doing for quake \o/.

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<< Comment #3 @ 05:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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buzek

awe-fucking-some!!!

<< Comment #4 @ 05:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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yank3

ni-very-ce!!!

<< Comment #5 @ 05:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju

omg A LOT OF QUAKE. i have got to watch this! spread the word people! *remove the dot at the end of the justin.tv link. some ppl arent that smart.

Edited by ischju at 05:27 CDT, 4 July 2011

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<< Comment #6 @ 05:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kK_Storm

Great news. But should we expect delays and tons of ads before stream starts?

<< Comment #160 @ 14:59 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #6

hopefully :)

<< Comment #7 @ 05:29 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Junktroller

This will be interesting.

<< Comment #9 @ 05:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EddieF4

Would have loved to see a TDM match along with the CTF match but it's all good. I hope all players are on time.

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<< Comment #17 @ 05:47 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #9

jeez, always the tdm/ctf whine if one isnt played...

im just glad mlg is even having something quake related since the game's on a massive decline :P

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<< Comment #25 @ 06:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EddieF4 - Reply to #17

Who's whining? I'm just saying it be nice to have TDM showcased as well along with CTF and duel. Hardly call that whining.
Whining would be WHY CTF? QUAKECON IS DOING TDM BUT YOU DO CTF OMGZ ID YOU FAIL SLASHER YOU FAIL!!!

<< Comment #33 @ 07:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #25

thanks for proving my point?

<< Comment #61 @ 09:04 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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WTFProoF?! - Reply to #33

[ - ] Bad troll...

<< Comment #89 @ 11:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #61

well im not trolling, hes just saying he wants tdm in a nice manner sure, but its still tdm whine IMO :P

im just surprised MLG does anything with quake at all, maybe they took a peek at dreamhack and saw quake still has an active community :D

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Borl - Reply to #89

ye but there's still no tdm

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kevz - Reply to #93

myfacewhen.jpeg

<< Comment #101 @ 12:11 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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khan_ - Reply to #89

No seriously, the guy just said it would be nice to have TDM along with CTF. It's especially important since TDM is on the rise compared to CTF, and any sproutling we can find in quake we should nurture.

Go be obnoxious somewhere else

<< Comment #108 @ 12:41 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #101

oh come on, tdm died like 7 years ago. just cause dreamhack is having a tdm tournament doesnt make it alive. i admit its helping a little bit but aside from dreamhack all these years, where have u seen other tdm events? (not to mention im reading on esr alot that the US doesnt even have any active tdm teams)

its just not a spectator gametype in a way that it can pull new people to quake, where duel does have that ability! and yes i did enjoy dreamhack' tdm but then im a quake veteran so i can follow it just fine :)

but hey i admit beeing a little bit obnoxious ;p still, the quake community never stop mentioning it if their fav gametype isnt played :D

Edited by kevz at 12:42 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #131 @ 13:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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squishy - Reply to #108

So basicly you think having a TDM showcase on the MLG stream in between DHS'11 tdm event and the qcon tdm event is a bad idea ?

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ffx - Reply to #131

Yeah because for outsiders tdm is boring as fuck :/

<< Comment #140 @ 14:08 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #131

correct me if im wrong but MLG is strictly american right? and america has no tdm community (or practically none)

sooooooo...?

oh and personally, i think quakecon made big mistakes, again its american so ctf woulda suited better plus they announced everything way too late. but im still happy for the tdm fans these tourneys are around :D

<< Comment #10 @ 05:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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uNstoned

Hey nice! looking forward to seeing Toxic duelling.

<< Comment #11 @ 05:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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adrenal1ne

that ctf game is going to be boring as shit

<< Comment #12 @ 05:32 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dird

looks awesome...guess ill watch everything until euro QL finishes then catch the american QL stuff tomoz.

what does "SC Center" involve?

<< Comment #14 @ 05:42 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #12

It was a daily SC2 youtube news show.

<< Comment #15 @ 05:44 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #14

oh its just news instead of strat guides etc?

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f0rk123 - Reply to #15

I think so, I never watched it but that's the impression I got. Never featured any pro players.

<< Comment #13 @ 05:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

Surprisingly good stuff there. Just how pro-gaming should be.

<< Comment #16 @ 05:46 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

holy dingleberries, gonna be the best show ever! especially if 2gd cooperates

<< Comment #18 @ 05:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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toggl

Of course its on the 4th of July at a awful time... thanks though. Hopefully the Euro quakers pull through for this one

<< Comment #83 @ 10:34 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #18

lol. You do realize that the CTF match is at 3 am for me?

<< Comment #19 @ 05:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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rareh

definitely gonna watch this Toxic vs srs.av3k, winner vs srs.Cypher.

rapha games are too late for us euros :(

<< Comment #32 @ 07:09 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Mordrbg

how many hours until the toxic vs av3k match? :S

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<< Comment #34 @ 07:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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rareh - Reply to #32

midnight for bulgaria

22 WET = 24 EET

<< Comment #46 @ 08:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (188.40.33.12) - Reply to #32

Set your timezone?

http://www.esreality.com/?a=preferences

Works even for me and you have an account...

<< Comment #20 @ 05:57 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tbone

Nice, might watch all of this actually. Interested in seeing some of the other games too.

<< Comment #21 @ 05:59 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Normalised

i hope you can get rapha to commentate on the tox/avek/cypher duels. :)

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<< Comment #22 @ 06:07 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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erzwo

fucking timezone , but nice games ;)

<< Comment #23 @ 06:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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esdf '

great news, 2gd & slasher casting, could be some epic trolling.

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u3a6 - Reply to #23

i think 2gd trolling slasher wouldnt be good at all for quake live cause.

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tweenz - Reply to #41

yeah, that wouldnt be TOO GOOD

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u3a6 - Reply to #45

i would like to see 2GD doing things the way he did back in a day, that amazing casting with good insights that helps the audience knowing what is going on. trolling slasher? i dont think it would mean anything to the mlg community, and would make quake guy's look like total assholes i think. I dont know the mlg community but this is what i think.

<< Comment #56 @ 08:34 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #52

and would make quake guy's look like total assholes i think.

A funny_not_that_serious_asshole is fun, the problem is that you can't understand he's not serious if you only have enough braincells to avoid shitting in your pants in public. Which is probably the main concern with that event anyway.

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u3a6 - Reply to #56

lol, u think mlg spectators know 2GD well enough to see if he is serious or not, sure u can understand by his kind of statements, but not everyone will pick it up and play along.

<< Comment #66 @ 09:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #65

read again :p

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u3a6 - Reply to #66

im too tired, also we need slashers robot voice.

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faerie_ - Reply to #71

does.does.does.does.does.does.does.does.
does.does.does.does.does.does.does.does.

<< Comment #50 @ 08:16 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #41

that would be hilarious if done right, and I don't doubt 2gd is clever enough to know that it would be quite appropriate to bring back slasher's hair pets on the grill tonight.

<< Comment #53 @ 08:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #50

yes if done right, but sometimes he exagerates, also if he commentates with his enthusiasm and useful insights it will be an awesome show, it will make them aware of the skill involved on a game like quake live in terms of brain and aim!

<< Comment #54 @ 08:31 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #53

that's pretty much the reason why that "event" would need somebody able to say something else than " ohmygod " and " WoOoOoooOoOoOOow ".

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ins ' - Reply to #50

it will probably be something like...
Slasher: "k guys just trying to get 2gd on skype now... Okay here he is! How are you 2gd?"
2gd: "Hey, i'm hot, how's your hair slasher? still full of pets?"
...
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<< Comment #24 @ 06:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ipx!

Yes, damn time zones, but i'll probably watch the vods tomorrow. I'm glad there's some CTF action!

<< Comment #26 @ 06:33 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ins '

cool !

<< Comment #27 @ 06:46 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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BlaD3

Will the games be recorded? Would love to see the USA games; CTF + duel, but work early in the morning doesn't really agree with that :p

Rest is really nice, I'll be checking as much as I can to see how this turns out as a fun event.

<< Comment #29 @ 06:58 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #27

yea theyre auto-recorded on justin

<< Comment #28 @ 06:56 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dem0n

huh ? Didnt see that one coming, was this all secret or smth ?

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Dird - Reply to #28

was mentioned 2 weeks ago~

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dem0n - Reply to #30

Could it have been during dreamhack ? That would explain it cause I hardly checked esr then, but that got me by surprise and its cool :)

Does this mean by any chance that mlg could pick up quake ?

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ins ' - Reply to #31

hopefully ;p

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Dird - Reply to #31

slasher mentioned it on LO3. only QL reference was that tox would be playing against some people

<< Comment #35 @ 07:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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karizma

nice, will tune in.

<< Comment #37 @ 07:35 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm

this might be used as a benchmark the potential of ql for the mlg, everyone tune in and spread the word

Edited by Nukm at 07:36 CDT, 4 July 2011

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faerie_ - Reply to #37

1.no shit.
2.no.

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kevz - Reply to #37

telling every ql player (99% european) to tune in to an american show

D:

ill be watching tho but only cuz im a basement dwelling nib that stays up till 6am.

<< Comment #42 @ 07:45 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #40

they'll very probably discard all the non us ips anyway.

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twister - Reply to #42

lol as if they give a fuck

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ToyTiger - Reply to #40

23:00 is too late for you? :) That's the QL time I get when trying to check European time for this event. Watching Americans play later would be madness, though.

Edited by ToyTiger at 10:28 CDT, 4 July 2011

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kevz - Reply to #81

ill be watching all the quake and sc2 if possible :)

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cha0z_ - Reply to #81

It was 00:00 here, and tbh I barely watched tox vs av3k... I was just too tired to stay, like till 1:40 in the morning. Some people have job, you know.

<< Comment #47 @ 08:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Mordrbg

thank you rareh :)

<< Comment #43 @ 07:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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krutov

Will tune in for the Toxic games for sure, and maybe for the American matches as well!

"2GD's assistance has been requested." I imagine a batman like light in the sky on this one :).

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squishy - Reply to #43

batman like light in the shape of a penis ?

<< Comment #48 @ 08:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_

Wondering, if it ever gets pickep up ( as if ), what kind of position would mlg probably have regading custom configs and hud files?
I doubt they'd force the use of one of the standard huds, but given that 80% of the interesting cvars are in the menu, they could ban the use of handmade configs which could possibly screw up quite a few players ( everybody can adapt to things like using only one crosshair, I'm more concerned about the +zoom/multi zoomfov players and that kind of stuff ).

I'm also wondering if they wouldn't limit graphical tweaks a lot, because it would be pretty fucking weird to have all of the games in their lineups on default except that old ugly thing that quakelive is.

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tbone - Reply to #48

I would see no reason why they would do this. Possibly force people to use higher graphics, but everything else would be pretty pointless. Like my rail/zoom on same button script, there is absolutely no reason to ban that.

<< Comment #49 @ 08:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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xou

wonder if 2GD will really do this, that note isn't clear about it

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fur*q - Reply to #49

Hope not

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<< Comment #63 @ 09:09 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (91.154.55.35) - Reply to #51

ye he lately just fucks around with ppl, it was funny before when he was also doing some serious analytic stuff but now its kinda getting old :d

<< Comment #55 @ 08:33 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk

hooray for halo and black ops :/

<< Comment #58 @ 08:51 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (69.37.2.170)

in the interest of raising eyebrows of the uninformed picmip on or off ?

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ischju - Reply to #58

on otherwise the stream quality has to be really good. id rather have picmip 6 and 40 fps than picmip 0 and 30 fps.

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fur*q - Reply to #59

He said it was in interest of the uninformed, not just yourself.

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ischju - Reply to #60

very good.

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faerie_ - Reply to #59

answering you as your post is a good placeholder ( or whatever the correct term is ) as slasher will read the thread anyway : if that stream is picmipped, don't forgot to say that the game has been tweaked because due to its pace it turns into a sea of pixelated shit otherwise.

Edited by faerie_ at 09:10 CDT, 4 July 2011

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squishy - Reply to #64

or .... the graphics have been optimised for the stream if you want to see the full potential check blablalbalba ...

<< Comment #72 @ 09:37 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #70

yeah well, that was just a reminder.

<< Comment #69 @ 09:35 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_

Now, if id was smart, they where going to put stream for the showmatch on the ql mainpage.

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<< Comment #74 @ 09:45 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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lukee - Reply to #69

they are* going

=)))

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function9 - Reply to #69

I like how you threw in that "if" part, very nice.

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hauer - Reply to #69

I'm pretty sure the team behind QL are full-blown retards.

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cha0z_ - Reply to #96

Ye, I played some random game just before the matches, and my opponents didn't know a shit about who will play just in a moment... and offc if I didn't telled him for it, he wasn't going to watch... wonder, how many people like him are there, and I am pretty sure they are hundreds.

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fau

It would be great if you say a lot of explaining the game for ppl who don't play it, at least during first 1/2 maps. I did it few times with my friends who don't play ql and it was great. I really miss it in many quake shoutcasts. This way I've learned to watch sc bw and enjoyed following the scene hardly even playing it myself. There should be a lot of ppl watching it who are unfamiliar with ql.
[+] and lets hope for good advertisement of this one. (I'm going to send an e-mail to id about the stream on mainpage, things like this work better than 100 forum posts)

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<< Comment #78 @ 10:08 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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s3cco

Gotta love the unintentional irony (sarcasm, even) of the MLG logo

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ischju - Reply to #78

you dont play quake with a joystick?

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dlx - Reply to #80

not like this one.

racing wheel!

Edited by dlx at 10:46 CDT, 4 July 2011

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s3cco - Reply to #80

Pfff. Keyboard-only is where it's at since Wolfenstein3D. The Z-axis is for noobs

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hauer - Reply to #78

Haha, wtf. It's like a parody.

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Nukm - Reply to #78

mlg started as a console league, it got big with halo, why wouldnt they put a controller in their logo?

<< Comment #92 @ 11:31 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

It would be really smart for all of us here to tune into the stream today specifically during the quake live portion of the event to get as many viewers as possible. The higher the numbers, the more likely (although still highly unlikely) MLG is to pick up quake live. If the numbers suck on this, there's pretty much no chance of them ever taking a chance on quake. So everyone in Europe, even if you won't be up for it, leave the stream up while you sleep so we can get as many viewers as possible to try and hopefully make them realize that quake is not dead yet!

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dem0n - Reply to #92

That's exactly what I was gonna do, except I will actually watch it.

I'll also spam my friends and facebook and all chans to watch the stream to max that number of viewers.

<< Comment #99 @ 12:04 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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burgonya - Reply to #92

Yeah I was thinking the same, I'll probably won't be able to watch it but I'll definietly leave the stream up for the night

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Venim - Reply to #92

It's all on the euros since i'm going to be out blowing stuff up

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n1ghty - Reply to #92

well i think the most important thing is the fact, that those sc2-players also enjoy watching quakelive very much. the moaning about the esl, dropping ql out, was insane on tl.net. ;)

<< Comment #85 @ 11:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mastertouch

fucking awesome

<< Comment #87 @ 11:20 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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moppz

Talked to slasher in lvlup irc chan. he told us that europeam streamers will be allowed to stream mlg games in the future!

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<< Comment #95 @ 11:47 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mastertouch - Reply to #87

epic. so there would be more in the future. omg so pumped

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dem0n - Reply to #87

that means ql is in mlg ? WOO

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Trance - Reply to #97

no, not necessarily. It could mean the occasional QL show matches or w/e they plan to do.

Edited by Trance at 12:15 CDT, 4 July 2011

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ins ' - Reply to #97

nobody mentioned ql unfortunately xD

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ischju - Reply to #87

LEAKED!

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Ffleri

UPLOAD VOD'S.

<< Comment #104 @ 12:18 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ins '

Slasher Rod Breslau
#MLGLive starting in just under two hours. #Quake, #SC2, #BlackOps & #Reach on deck. @follow2GD & @Stermy to join. MLG.tv

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Venim

This is all online right? I didn't hear anything about this but I know they have an event in Anaheim later this month.

<< Comment #106 @ 12:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

Don't fuck this up

<< Comment #109 @ 12:44 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Venim - Reply to #106

According to another thread syncerror is trying to sabotage this by creating server problems :p

<< Comment #107 @ 12:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

TeamLiquid.net will help with numbers. They're more excited about Quake for today than SC it seems :P

<< Comment #111 @ 12:50 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #107

No they're not.

<< Comment #114 @ 13:05 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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burgonya - Reply to #107

is it so?
link? this would cheer me up

<< Comment #116 @ 13:13 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #114

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240213

<< Comment #110 @ 12:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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zeun_

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/33804-rapha_..._broadcast

Edited by zeun_ at 05:44 CDT, 6 July 2011

<< Comment #112 @ 12:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #110

WE already have the schedule but thanks anyway.

<< Comment #115 @ 13:09 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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skint

Hope they can keep to the schedule, want to watch the euro q3 duels.

<< Comment #118 @ 13:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nellie

Fucking christ that scared the shit outta me - left the page open in a tab, no warning, no background music just "HELLO GUYS" screams near left a mark ~/

Can't see a LQ stream so it's buffering constantly - is there one? If not events failed before it's began.

Edited by Nellie at 13:31 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #120 @ 13:32 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #118

"What's up guys it's Chris Puckett here"

<< Comment #121 @ 13:33 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nellie - Reply to #120

I was too startled to hear properly :p

Ahh it's a vod, so where / when does this start?

Edited by Nellie at 13:34 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #123 @ 13:35 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Zalon - Reply to #118

It's a video podcast you are watching, not the live stream...

<< Comment #130 @ 13:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #118

I told them about the quality selector missing. Hope they can sort it before the Quake part.

<< Comment #139 @ 14:06 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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miNd - Reply to #118

http://nl.justin.tv/mlg_live#/w/1425849360

u can choose the quality

<< Comment #141 @ 14:10 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nellie - Reply to #139

Cheers

mind

<< Comment #122 @ 13:33 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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T1E '

2gds gonna sell it yo

<< Comment #135 @ 14:00 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (131.173.193.203)

http://www.justin.tv/mlg_live
try this one :)

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<< Comment #124 @ 13:44 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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FishStix

If you want to support Quake, watch this and comment on MLG's facebook / send them emails saying how awesome this was/is going to be :{

<< Comment #125 @ 13:45 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Ryfje

Should be good, I might have to spam some friends myself actually..

<< Comment #127 @ 13:48 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Venim

Can't set quality? Now i'm really not watching =\

<< Comment #142 @ 14:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #127

got 720p and below to choose from over here! :)

<< Comment #357 @ 17:05 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Venim - Reply to #142

Ya they fixed it pretty quick fortunately :)

<< Comment #128 @ 13:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Oh_Snaps!

Wtf, I think I missed this, why wasn't this posted earlier?

<< Comment #132 @ 13:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Erudite - Reply to #128

It starts shortly, you've not missed it.

<< Comment #129 @ 13:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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r4pe

spam id software as well for spending some prizemoney to mlg so that they ad QL.

<< Comment #136 @ 14:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_

[21:02] <princess_faerie> HOLY SHIT
[21:02] <princess_faerie> IS SLASHER GOING TO A WEDDING OR WHAT

<< Comment #163 @ 15:03 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #136

did you just quote yourself?

<< Comment #175 @ 15:46 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #163

it's faster that typing it again in here.

Any argument you may try to bring up is invalid : I'm a princess.

<< Comment #137 @ 14:04 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie

The other guy couldn't look anymore like he doesn't give a shit about QL :p

Edited by GreenMeanie at 14:04 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #143 @ 14:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Erudite

Anyone know the map being played in toxic vs avek?

<< Comment #145 @ 14:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #143

definitely t7, dm13 (which are the maps toxic has pracced vs stermy) :)

<< Comment #144 @ 14:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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w0nk0

hope this gets some numbers. gonna be around for the euro matches for sure. going to leave the stream up if i leave before the others.

gj slasher.

Edited by w0nk0 at 14:15 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #146 @ 14:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Demiurge '

you should provide tips on getting friends and family to watch this

<< Comment #148 @ 14:42 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Lethe

18 more mins?

<< Comment #149 @ 14:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pharrow

btw: does anyone have demos of Sunday's duels of stermy vs tox?

<< Comment #150 @ 14:50 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Slasher

2GD and Stermy will be your casters for the European matches. Good chance of CZM for the American matches.

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<< Comment #152 @ 14:51 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #150

my dog says, gud job!

Edited by dlx at 15:08 CDT, 4 July 2011

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<< Comment #205 @ 16:10 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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sch. - Reply to #152

cute dog ;)

<< Comment #153 @ 14:51 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Erudite - Reply to #150

Massive props to you Slasher - thanks for all the work you will have put into organising this.

<< Comment #154 @ 14:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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lukee - Reply to #150

CZM -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmb0F00YPE

<< Comment #155 @ 14:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #150

edit the main topic, plzzzzzzzzzzzz!

<< Comment #162 @ 15:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #150

way to go, slasher :) also props to 2GD and Stermy keeping the game alive (when we need it the most :P)

<< Comment #168 @ 15:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #150

now thats good news

<< Comment #179 @ 15:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #150

You are THE man! <3

Edited by chaos.spwnrpd at 15:55 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #204 @ 16:09 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #150

czm would be awesome :)

<< Comment #164 @ 15:03 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (91.154.55.35)

spamming friends to watch it

<< Comment #151 @ 14:51 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx

this guy with headphones looks like he has no idea what the other sc2 pro (oh its TLO :D) is talking about :| (poker face)

Edited by dlx at 14:52 CDT, 4 July 2011

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #151

The same happened when Slasher was talking about Tox

Edited by GreenMeanie at 14:59 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #156 @ 14:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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fuzz

Casters, please explain more game for noobs, infos like that there is no Item Timers visible to players and stuff like that.

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<< Comment #157 @ 14:57 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Mitritch

Stream is stuttering and choppy. Hope it's my local ISP problem only (720p youtube videos run fine though)...

<< Comment #161 @ 15:01 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #157

its quite laggy here too (.de) (12k viewers so far?! - that could be more?)

<< Comment #166 @ 15:10 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #161

infamous jtv routing issues, switching quality sometimes helps though oO

<< Comment #167 @ 15:18 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Mitritch - Reply to #166

Already on 240p - this way it stutters only every 10 seconds.

Gonna stay there regardless of the quality though. :)

<< Comment #182 @ 15:57 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #167

Can't tell you the number of times it's lagged at 240p but not at 360p or even 480p. Try fiddling with the quality before settling at 240p.

Edited by pks at 15:58 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #159 @ 14:59 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Yellack

I'll definatly tune in! Big <3

<< Comment #165 @ 15:06 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Mordrbg

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/avekkk avek warming up a lot :D

<< Comment #169 @ 15:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie

Just made a banana milkshake, Just need QL now.

<< Comment #170 @ 15:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #169

fapshake? :|

<< Comment #171 @ 15:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #170

shut up and post another picture of your dog idiot

<< Comment #172 @ 15:43 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #171

ok :|

<< Comment #173 @ 15:45 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mastertouch

ugh sc2 is running extremely late. 15 min. till quake and they still havent started their 2v2 match -_-

<< Comment #174 @ 15:46 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

Big kudos to Slasher for putting his personal stuff with 2gd aside and actually getting him to cast. Raised my interest level over 9000!

<< Comment #176 @ 15:47 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #174

There is no personal stuff between 2GD and Slasher. Why people don't understand jokes?

<< Comment #177 @ 15:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #176

:D

<< Comment #178 @ 15:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #176

i have no idea but i wouldnt be too sure, just look at how 2gd treated nvc, such a dick

<< Comment #180 @ 15:56 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #178

Why? What did he actually say?

Judging by nvc's massive ego they're as bad as each other

<< Comment #201 @ 16:07 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #180

well i dont think he said anything really bad, he was just being an ass an he actually threw away nvcs hat somewhere in the crowd. so unrespectful

<< Comment #675 @ 22:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #201

i like 2gd a bit more now

:@

<< Comment #183 @ 15:57 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #176

There definitely was, hope it's sorted now.

<< Comment #181 @ 15:56 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_

Someone restream to own3d.tv? Because with my 70Mbit/s international line, the justin.tv stream is freezing every few seconds... or atleast record vods <3

<< Comment #184 @ 15:57 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dadS

syncing knackered for anyone else?

<< Comment #185 @ 15:59 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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puritan ' - Reply to #184

yea

<< Comment #188 @ 16:00 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #184

yes

<< Comment #186 @ 15:59 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Av3k

OK guys , we are ready to play with tox . Cypher also came online so he is waiting for our game . Now we need to wait till SC is finished and we can start . I hope many people will watch .

Tox asked to play 3 mappol game ( ztn, t7, aero) . We gonna play bo3 and winner will play against Cypher in bo5 match , normal mappol )))))

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<< Comment #187 @ 16:00 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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limity - Reply to #186

gl ...

<< Comment #189 @ 16:00 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mastertouch - Reply to #186

yay! but nay to sc2 being so delayed. they still have to play a 2v2 match =(

<< Comment #190 @ 16:01 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #186

Gl man rooting for you

<< Comment #191 @ 16:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #186

nice move from you to play 3 mappool, hope to see great games.

<< Comment #193 @ 16:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #186

GL

<< Comment #196 @ 16:04 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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fuzz - Reply to #186

Play spectacular games! don't care about +b and winning much :O

<< Comment #197 @ 16:05 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #186

thanks for playing, hopefully the delay is not that annoying

<< Comment #199 @ 16:07 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #186

Av3k <3.
GL

<< Comment #210 @ 16:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #186

nice, good luck!

<< Comment #192 @ 16:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Mordrbg

gl av3k ;)

<< Comment #194 @ 16:03 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Sub_

if only they could keep their schedule once.. no point in giving the link to friends etc if it doesn't start when it's supposed to.

<< Comment #195 @ 16:04 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ggnore

¬_¬ quality option only started to show itself when i restarted

Edited by NicholAs at 16:08 CDT, 4 July 2011

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dadS - Reply to #195

click 720p+ or whatever it is and select the one you want. On 360 myself.

<< Comment #203 @ 16:09 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #202

Yeah got it don't worry thanks p

<< Comment #198 @ 16:06 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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limity

why cant they just stream quake instead of sc when its down...

Edited by limity at 16:07 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #200 @ 16:07 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx

now we have only 6,5k viewers down from 13,5k, thx a lot for this nice delay and stream probs :(

<< Comment #206 @ 16:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm

why would you not use either a high or zero picmip, but something in between?

<< Comment #214 @ 16:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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smari - Reply to #206

indeed...
People watching the stream not familiar with the game will prolly think this is the best possible quality.

<< Comment #290 @ 16:45 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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burgonya - Reply to #206

been said a million times, picmip0 just looks absolute shit when streamed live

<< Comment #207 @ 16:13 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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onlyDM6forever

nice stream config
hope it wont get as much hate gfx wise as picmipped ones from outsiders

<< Comment #211 @ 16:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #207

nice config?
why would you not use the highest quality when you decide that you dont want a high picmip?
looks like crap

<< Comment #213 @ 16:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #211

w/e at least it shows that Quake actually has textures.

<< Comment #212 @ 16:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #207

looks like qw gfx, cmon :|

<< Comment #493 @ 17:43 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Zalon - Reply to #212

Hey, don't be hating... qw got way higher res textures than this :D

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<< Comment #216 @ 16:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #207

It's like picmip 2 or something I swear

<< Comment #208 @ 16:13 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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fau

omfg, is this supposed to be 720p? Looks terrible.

<< Comment #209 @ 16:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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xgo

avek vs tox!!! http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/

<< Comment #215 @ 16:18 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_

the stream is freezing every 2 seconds even on 240p, nice...

<< Comment #217 @ 16:22 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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incanu7

omg slasher just cut the comm cables!

<< Comment #218 @ 16:23 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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lukee

its quiet in the studio

<< Comment #219 @ 16:23 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

Y U NO HAVE SHOUTCASTERS

<< Comment #220 @ 16:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

did 2gd just diss MLG? not exactly the appropriate thing to do casting it :p

<< Comment #222 @ 16:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #220

hes not used to technical problems... thats all >:DDDDD

<< Comment #228 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #220

yeah i think that was a pisstake of mlg and after that slasher diss lulz

<< Comment #258 @ 16:35 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #220

Yeah got booted for it too xD

<< Comment #267 @ 16:37 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz - Reply to #220

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

<< Comment #221 @ 16:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Kerchu

no ingame sound now, nice

<< Comment #223 @ 16:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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frisky

wow sick rails

<< Comment #224 @ 16:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

lol @ slasher dissing

<< Comment #225 @ 16:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ArchaiK

wtf!!! Those rail shots from toxjq was unreal.

<< Comment #226 @ 16:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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yank3

nice streak of tox, fucking insane

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<< Comment #227 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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BasedSwag

oh my fucjking god

<< Comment #229 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie

OMFG!
MIND BLOWN!

Tox just saved QL.

Edited by GreenMeanie at 16:29 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #230 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm

aahahahahah
what comeback!

<< Comment #231 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Kerchu

FUCK YEAH

<< Comment #232 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Omni

rofl tox is going nuts.

<< Comment #233 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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lukee

OH MY GOD

<< Comment #234 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

what a start! wow

<< Comment #235 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Twisp.

lol tox is unbelievable

<< Comment #236 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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limity

WTF rails ? ive never saw such rails in my entire life when i started ql

<< Comment #648 @ 20:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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zar4 - Reply to #236

meet the toxinator

<< Comment #709 @ 01:54 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #648

We don't call him aimfucker, because of his 40lg% average stats xD.

<< Comment #237 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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DamianLillard

the fuck tox, the fuck

<< Comment #238 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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zuphrin

LOL TOX

<< Comment #239 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Lethe

hahahah toxic for fucks sake

<< Comment #240 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
DEMOS DEMOS DEMOS DEMOS
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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<< Comment #241 @ 16:28 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx

dat rail!

<< Comment #242 @ 16:29 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks

That was a beauty.

<< Comment #243 @ 16:29 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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fuzz

a bit louder game sounds please

<< Comment #244 @ 16:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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FishStix

toxjc is entertaining the SC2 masses.

9k viewers for Quake! This bodes very well :)

<< Comment #326 @ 16:55 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (213.112.232.60)

omfg never seen such sick rails and epic comeback

<< Comment #245 @ 16:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tourist

ffs mr UMM UHHH YEA and Mario...

<< Comment #246 @ 16:31 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Infuscomus

TOOOOOX WOW. Never been a fan of the guy because I'm not following the scene for so long but now those 2 minutes comeback just made me understand what the hell the guy is all about.

Insane. Anyway, go Avekkk !

<< Comment #791 @ 08:24 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #246

his comeback was result of avek not taking him serious

<< Comment #247 @ 16:31 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Yellack

I sprayed!

<< Comment #248 @ 16:31 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Allancer

2gd kicked?

<< Comment #249 @ 16:32 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Sub_

needs louder gamesounds fosho

<< Comment #325 @ 16:55 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

wooooow toxjq

<< Comment #250 @ 16:33 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

<Dragonfly`> 2gd here
<Dragonfly`> i wont be casting the second map
<Dragonfly`> cus mlg removed me from the convo
<Batcha> i bet my rail isnt far off from this avekkk :D
<Dragonfly`> [23:30:43] MLG - JP McDaniel: mlg asked me to after the dreamhack comment
<Dragonfly`> [23:30:43] MLG - JP McDaniel: :(
<Dragonfly`> [23:30:45] MLG - JP McDaniel: not my call
<Dragonfly`> [23:30:46] MLG - JP McDaniel: sorry
<Dragonfly`> i think i made a dreamhack / mlg joke
<Dragonfly`> and it upset them

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<< Comment #255 @ 16:34 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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BasedSwag - Reply to #250

saw that coming when he said it, tbh

<< Comment #322 @ 16:55 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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starswitchback - Reply to #255

what did he say?

<< Comment #256 @ 16:35 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #250

what cunts

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TheWalker - Reply to #256

Actually, 2gd is the cunt here.

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<< Comment #297 @ 16:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #281

nope

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #297

yup.
when the org is fucking up, you make it better, not diss it and plug another one at the same time. but that's not even what happened, skype and slasher(PC?) fucked up. that wasn't just unprofessional, it was idiotic.

Edited by Demiurge at 17:00 CDT, 4 July 2011

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Thorin - Reply to #339

He was making it better; he was casting for free without even being asked until the day. Fuck have you ever done to make anything better? Aside from offer shitty suggestions.

Unprofessional? He was doing it for free, for the community, for the game he loves and with barely any notice. Who the fuck is listening to 2gd to hear him be professional? I'm listening to hear his thought processes which are about 10 levels above any other caster in the scene. The fact he comes with a mildly obnoxious swagger at times is just the price of admission.

Too bad you're looking for a Sunday school teacher on the mic, fuck outta here with that bullshit.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #683

"He was making it better; he was casting for free without even being asked until the day."

He was until he wasn't, you fucking idiot.

"Fuck have you ever done to make anything better? Aside from offer shitty suggestions."

Fuck have you done to make anything better besides saying fuck a fuckload? I have been contributing to XSR since before you have devolved into a bitter comment troll.

"Unprofessional? He was doing it for free, for the community, for the game he loves and with barely any notice. Who the fuck is listening to 2gd to hear him be professional?"

MLG and starctaft players, you fucking idiot.

"I'm listening to hear his thought processes which are about 10 levels above any other caster in the scene. The fact he comes with a mildly obnoxious swagger at times is just the price of admission."

Nobody gives a shit why you're listening to him. He might be a great caster with 'swagger', and I might like him the best, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he acted like an idiot at the exact moment when he shouldn't have, resulting in chain reaction of an embarrassment for the quake community.

"Too bad you're looking for a Sunday school teacher on the mic, fuck outta here with that bullshit."

Too bad you are presenting a false dichotomy between a Sunday school teacher and 2gd cursing a gaming organization which is at the moment potentially evaluating a game. NVC did a wonderful job hours later. Now, piss off, you fucking idiot.

Edited by Demiurge at 01:13 CDT, 5 July 2011

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Naghokez - Reply to #693

"MLG and starctaft players, you fucking idiot."

Actually, that's not true. Starcraft players were loving 2GD's casting and loved his jab at MLG as well (see the comments on TL).

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #749

forest behind trees, hello. what does it matter? if at least one person turned away from MLG because of that comment it was damaging, unprofessional, and stupid

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Naghokez - Reply to #816

I was replying to your statement that MLG _and_ starcraft players were listening to 2GD to hear him be professional. The MLG maybe but the starcraft players certainly not :p

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #843

do you understand the difference between 'all' and 'most'? now, do you understand that the difference between those two is what was being contested for in that show-match? as well as 'most' of everyone else?

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Naghokez - Reply to #844

Do you understand that the overwhelming majority of starcraft players loved how 2GD was casting and supported him against the MLG when they decided to kick him? Do you understand that he largely contributed to making Quake interesting to follow for them through his casting, as one can see from the comments on TL?
If you want to edit your post into "the MLG and one out of twenty starcraft players" then go ahead, but to declare broadly that "MLG and starcraft players" wanted 2GD to be professional implies that at least a majority of them wanted him to be professional, which is completely false.

Edited by Naghokez at 15:39 CDT, 5 July 2011

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #850

thanks for your semantic corrections

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dynodeath - Reply to #816

Personnaly I don't see any bigE about what 2gd said, unless someone is an egotisitical idiot, with no humour and a chip the size of a double decker bus on their shoulder, with no idea about the Quake scene or 2gd's personality.

Surely if the MGL had any balls or wit, they should have had an inside man to cover any odd eventuality. They then easily could have interjected to counter what 2gd said. EZ?

Bit knee "jerk" to kick tbh..

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Dynamix - Reply to #256

Nah they're trying to be a professional organisation, it's what you'd expect.

Still a shame though

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Torzelan ' - Reply to #289

Reminds me of mid-teenagers making CS clans and trying to be "professional organizations"...

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #256

MLG is kind enough to give us quake fans some great matches to watch and 2dg almost immediately disses the organization that's willing to take a chance on quake.... So how is that MLG being cunts? It's 2gd. Insulting organizations that are willing to put together quake matches and help quake grow.... that must be his big plan for revolutionizing esports. Don't blame mlg for kicking the guy who's dissing them on their own stream... Blame 2gd for being a douche.

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for3cas7 - Reply to #349

soooooooooooooooo this!!!!!

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palatka - Reply to #349

dont care

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Thorin - Reply to #349

Protip for making "quake grow": don't kick the best caster in the scene before his games are finished cos you have a grain of sand in your vagina over two lines he said. Sounds pretty selfish to me.

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Nukm - Reply to #250

:D

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tweenz - Reply to #250

oh you cant be serious

<< Comment #261 @ 16:36 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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RMS - Reply to #250

yeah it was pretty clear why 2GD was kicked

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Anonymous (213.112.232.60) - Reply to #261

what did 2gd say?

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DamianLillard - Reply to #250

lolz this event is epic already

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h8m3 - Reply to #250

well it wasnt rly an appropriate 'joke' tbh

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InDepther - Reply to #270

I agree

that was too far and uncalled for

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buzek - Reply to #250

what has he actually said? I've missed it

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<< Comment #275 @ 16:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #250

lmao

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ZeritoN - Reply to #250

It wasn't even funny tbh...

It's just biting the hand that feeds

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<< Comment #307 @ 16:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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rareh - Reply to #280

it actually was, if u know the problems that mlg dallas had

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moppz - Reply to #250

O M G !

cfg fail but nice to see quake!

but really.. if lvlup, c58 or bw would stream with this settings nobody would watch quake..

edit: i hope u see that u have good ql streams here in europe!

Edited by mOPPz.oO(BW) at 16:42 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #251 @ 16:33 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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me

Don't forget to tell to the viewers that Quake Live is free and playable in a browser.

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ArchaiK

Where is 2GD?

<< Comment #253 @ 16:34 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm

*facepalm*

Edited by Nukm at 16:34 CDT, 4 July 2011

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<< Comment #404 @ 17:13 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #253

true

is crap and I even made a post about that and picmip 0 vs 6 or more. Then I changed it to 720p+ and it was looking good and deleted my comment.

so with picmip 0, 720+ looks good
all other qualities, including 720p, look like shit

<< Comment #254 @ 16:34 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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davis

oh, hello aimrape. it feels like it's been so long since I've seen you.

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winz - Reply to #254

HAS

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retire - Reply to #382

Actually it's correct as it is.

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<< Comment #924 @ 11:29 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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dAND3h - Reply to #448

It's yes.

<< Comment #259 @ 16:35 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Wuss

Did they can 2gd for shittalking mlg? lol

<< Comment #262 @ 16:36 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Kerchu

damn, how quickly it got boring

<< Comment #263 @ 16:36 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Carsomyr

Ok, so the DH comment was a bit unprofessional, but it doesn't benefit MLG to kick 2gd. Their (and our) loss.

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Torzelan '

lmao @ mlg

<< Comment #265 @ 16:37 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tRUMR

2gd seriously makes it 2x better to watch :/

<< Comment #266 @ 16:37 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EddieF4

More ingame sounds please

<< Comment #269 @ 16:38 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm

the amount of people asking what game this is kinda shows you how much big events help such a game

"Pessle: im DLing this game right now :D"

Edited by Nukm at 16:48 CDT, 4 July 2011

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dlx - Reply to #269

and then this shit config.... so stupid

Edited by dlx at 16:40 CDT, 4 July 2011

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Nukm - Reply to #274

23:27 +Nukm^NA • Disrepute nvc did slasher ask for a cfg?
23:27 @Disrepute • he has our cfg he has just changed it

dont wanna give slasher too much shit because he was prolly really busy and all, but wtf

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #282

It's for trying to get newcomers to the game. It's more likely to attract new players with better graphics than with our normal stream cfg. Sucks but true. I can't believe anyone is surprised by it.

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Trance - Reply to #282

I gave him 2 stream configs we use, but the ones they used is modified.

I warned him that the bitrate they had planned for will be bad for picmip 0 but I guess they wanted to show a game with "nice" textures for the non-quakers out there.

Edited by Trance at 16:56 CDT, 4 July 2011

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MindTheGap - Reply to #330

which is a good point. i think the look is newbie friendly.

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Sub_ - Reply to #269

is that from irc or where can i read the comments?

Edited by Sub_ at 17:00 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #271 @ 16:38 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Twisp.

toxic should start to time items..

<< Comment #272 @ 16:39 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_

I'm sorry but toxjq's rail suddenly became way less tasty without my beloved crazy englishman casting.

<< Comment #276 @ 16:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pTOLEmy

With all the respect: tox' playstyle is not good for duels. He needs to slow down much. Excellent player to follow, but not very efficient in duel. He would be very good at ctf :)

AW: avek is gone be raped? :)

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naymlis - Reply to #276

lol @ giving tox tips in quake duels

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<< Comment #925 @ 11:31 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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dAND3h - Reply to #276

?

<< Comment #277 @ 16:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dadS

no offense but stermy and slasher made that sound dull

Edited by dadS at 16:41 CDT, 4 July 2011

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LukKe

avek kinda handed it to him when he allowed himself to be killed at the tele.. but what the fuck were those rails?! i can understand one..maybe two..
anyway the stream is pretty terrible.. 720p+ looks choppy, 720p is more like 120p.. and barely audible in-game sounds

<< Comment #279 @ 16:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ArchaiK

stermy & slasher is not the best caster combo tbh.

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cha0z_ - Reply to #279

Tbh, not the worst either.

<< Comment #283 @ 16:41 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie

1st map - TOX Rails + 2GD = AMAZING
2nd Map - No 2GD = Boring

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Dird - Reply to #283

had nothing to do with unexpected ztn comeback vs rape :d

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #462

tox is unreal!! Amazing stuff!

Unbelievable aiming ability.

<< Comment #285 @ 16:42 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pTOLEmy

And still impressed by tox aim. Fucking hell man. This guy is born as a quake player..

<< Comment #286 @ 16:43 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Infuscomus

What did 2GD say ? I have no sound...

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #286

This ^^^

<< Comment #292 @ 16:46 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #286

something about not being used to MLG technical issues because he works mainly with dreamhack

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tweenz - Reply to #286

*shoutcasters muted for a minute or two, then they're back*
2gd: well, i guess im not too used to technical problems, this isnt dreamhack, this is MLG

not the exact transcript, but yeh, you get the point

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #286

He implied that MLG has technical issues a lot and he's not used to it because he does dreamhack (which has just as many technical problems...). Only he said it in the casual, pompous douche way that 2gd speaks.

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Trance - Reply to #424

(which has just as many technical problems...)

Was 2001 the last time you watched a Dreamhack event?

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cha0z_ - Reply to #508

I thought the same :D

<< Comment #287 @ 16:43 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Raist

like someone mentioned above, the show matches is probably their way of checking how popular the game really is. (stream watch count, news buzz etc)

so therefore, even if you are in europe, sacrifice some time to check out the show matches, it might make a difference.

id software should also really talk with mlg to try to get the game in their roster, mlg has ALOT of ppl following them.. (saying this because it seems that companies can have a great influence like what happened with lol and iem)

also wth happened with 2gd? :D

Edited by Raist at 16:56 CDT, 4 July 2011

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tweenz

I always loved 2gd because he used to make it interesting by talking about stuff not totally related to the game right in front of your eyes. I think he's the right person to cast this sort of presentation of Quake because he showa the main thing - the game is fun. You can tell your regular console gamer just how complex and iq-demanding the game is (that may even be offputting) - he's just gonna laugh at you and go play Halo. I still enjoy the cast, but I don't think people not too familiar with Quake do.

<< Comment #293 @ 16:46 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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jamalz

2GD u stupid shit, why did u have to insult them? They are american, they will kick u off cuz they have tight assholes.

shit man ;(

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<< Comment #306 @ 16:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Ebracus - Reply to #293

2GD was being quite well behaved ,I was wondering when it would end lol

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faerie_ - Reply to #293

you call that an insult?

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tourist - Reply to #293

dont think they could have possibly fucked up more if they tried. :D

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Ebracus

lol - http://twitter.com/#!/follow2GD

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zuphrin

mlg rocks

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<< Comment #298 @ 16:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_

gg microsoft for ruining skype as id ruined quake.

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esdf '

lol mlg fails hard with all the comm issues

<< Comment #300 @ 16:50 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

this is such a fucking shame... lost interest after losing 2gd

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #300

same.

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Dynamix

Normally i'd be lolling at this but Quake needs all the help it can get and this doesn't help :(((

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ArchaiK

Not having 2GD was very bad for Quake in this situation. I think MLG did the game a disfavor here :(

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<< Comment #353 @ 17:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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burgonya - Reply to #302

honestly you can't blame them. still a pity.

<< Comment #303 @ 16:51 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EddieF4

People still get BSOD? NOOB

<< Comment #304 @ 16:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pTOLEmy

Christ, tox is a beast. Even when he loses he looks impressive. His aim is just beyond excellent :)

<< Comment #308 @ 16:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dlx

i would've kicked him after 2nd or 3rd negative comment about MLG, but not after first.

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tweenz - Reply to #308

exactly... warning him not to do it again would be logical

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ToyTiger - Reply to #313

How would they trust a word of somebody who insulted them publically on their own stream?

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #308

Imo they shouldn't have done anything until during a break, then mentioned that they had a big problem with it and not to do it again.

By kicking him off they made it a big huge headline and now everyone knows what he said etc.

<< Comment #309 @ 16:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Something

Slasher's computer doesn't even want him to commentate.

That says it all.

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<< Comment #317 @ 16:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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zuphrin - Reply to #309

lol'd

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dlx - Reply to #309

haha n1 sir

<< Comment #310 @ 16:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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incanu7

It's official.
The great ones have fallen.
IEM and ESWC buried this game.

<< Comment #311 @ 16:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

2GD brings so much to the game/stream/cast, say what you want, but his cast is most interesting out of all and it's good as well for people who haven't touched Quake and don't understand whats going on. A big loss to these showmatches ;-/

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<< Comment #312 @ 16:53 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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burgonya

joe wouldve been the perfect commentator for such a thing tbh

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zuphrin - Reply to #312

joe+2gd!

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Cust0m - Reply to #323

would have been epic :) + also a good promotion for QL

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cha0z_ - Reply to #323

The best combo.

<< Comment #315 @ 16:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dynamix

Rofl at the guy just beffore the ad cut in.

<< Comment #316 @ 16:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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esdf '

http://twitter.com/#!/follow2GD/status/87999773092753408

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RMS - Reply to #316

noticed that :(

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Dird - Reply to #316

what did he say there?

<< Comment #318 @ 16:54 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tourist

this calls for one of those epic fail lolcats 4chan things

<< Comment #324 @ 16:55 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mavLP

There is a preset config for insane graphics. They should be using that...

<< Comment #327 @ 16:56 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dadS

It was a shit joke and a good jibe. I can understand them being pissed. They probably did the right thing by not letting him cast (which is a shame) but they could of handled it better.

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<< Comment #336 @ 16:58 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #327

Nobody would have remembered that joke at all if they hadn't got their panties in a bunch and booted 2gd.

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<< Comment #378 @ 17:08 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Borl - Reply to #336

Yep, Streisand effect in full.. uh.. effect?

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Dird - Reply to #327

what did they do where it wasnt handled good? unless they said on stream "get off the stream" or "2bd wont be doing it any more cos we dont work with disrespectful people" then just telling him to leave is a fine way to handle it if they were offended.

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dadS - Reply to #479

Instead of leaving people to wonder what the hell was going on, they should have commented about it with spin like you see on tv.

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Dird - Reply to #696

they could have just grab someone fast and just said 'nvc will be replacing 2bd for the remainder of the games'

<< Comment #328 @ 16:56 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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faerie_

So basically, mlg fucked both them and the quake community with a baseball bat : doubt anyone here will be interested in following any ql related thing now that we know they're about as nazi as tl.net mods and their usual viewers won't give a fuck either as they won't understand shit.

ggs.

edit : now I understand why I can't stand day9 during official events, he's in some kind of politically correct mlg mindset.

Edited by faerie_ at 16:56 CDT, 4 July 2011

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tRUMR - Reply to #328

same thing here, i pretty much can't watch it when they sugar coat everything.

<< Comment #337 @ 16:58 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Ryfje - Reply to #328

I'm sorry but 2GD should act a bit more professionally, the sort of 2GD who casted IEM Finals would of been nice, I don't mind him talking shit but I'd rather he stayed on, especially giving the circumstances.

<< Comment #351 @ 17:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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zooalt - Reply to #337

come on.

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faerie_ - Reply to #337

It's 2gd. They knew he'd talk shit. We want him to talk shit. He knew he had to take it easy. He did take it easy.
They reacted like a bunch of butthurt 8yo obsese kids who got their candycane stolen by a guy wearing a 1987 pullover with an elk sewn on it and tattoos made with pencil ink and a compass.

They cried for their moms.

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Ryfje - Reply to #356

Perhaps, but if your 2GD and you know how professional they are, you can't overstep the mark. Personally, I prefer the 2GD who is less professional but hey, I want quakelive to succeed and him going off stream was bad..

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raw - Reply to #390

His personality has at times always been controversial and this is reflected in his casting, you can't expect him to change his entire attitude to please the MLG. The reason they wanted him in the first place is because he is a well known popular caster, popular because of who and how he is, its silly to recruit him and then remove him based on the same reason!

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dynodeath - Reply to #821

Yeah I mean come on, MGLsurely must have been round the block a bit, and known that 2gd can be a bit off the cuff, thats what makes him so entertaining. Buit like Jonathan Ross on the edge but fucking hilarious.

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Ryfje - Reply to #821

True.. :D

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u3a6 - Reply to #328

i told u 2GD would fuck it up!

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #328

MLG fucked the quake community? 2gd flat out disrespected an organization who is willing to take a chance on quake and give us fans some great matches to watch, and MLG was totally justified in kicking him from casting. It's not MLG fucking us. They're doing US a favor by giving us these matches!!! 2gd being a douchebag is what's fucking us. What do you expect them to do? Sit there and let him trash their organization on their own stream? Meanwhile they're doing us a favor by giving us quake live to watch at a time when quake live isn't exactly flourishing. Don't blame MLG, it was a douche thing for 2gd to say, and that's that. He got himself kicked because he thinks disrespecting everyone and everything is hilarious. No professionalism.

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faerie_ - Reply to #428

A sense of humor.

Get one.

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esdf ' - Reply to #428

fuck off slasher.

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<< Comment #822 @ 12:37 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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raw - Reply to #428

He wasn't casting the news at ten to the entire country, wind your neck in for fucks sake.

I can't believe people are making such a meal out of this, especially MLG!

Edited by raw at 12:37 CDT, 5 July 2011

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vedic - Reply to #328

edit : now I understand why I can't stand day9 during official events, he's in some kind of politically correct mlg mindset.

Very true.

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Spyyder

"I'm talking TRIPLE BSOD"

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Ryfje

If we can, can we please get some casters who'll explain the game to those who don't understand it, can tell them exactly where to go to play it and exactly why QuakeLive is great/demands so much skill and is much better than the other FPS's. Slasher+Stermy isn't too good of a combo either, needs more enthusiasm/insight for the games in my opinion, or aside from that maybe actually get the game sounds working properly and some more professionalism going. I'm not saying this isn't good, I think the viewer count is good and Slasher has done a good job to get it on MLG..just take this into consideration please.

<< Comment #335 @ 16:58 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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smari

I think an enthusiastic play by play commentary (a la Joe) would have been more appropriate for this occasion.
Some great shots were not even commentated because they explained some things about the maps noobs won't understand anyways.

Edited by smari at 17:01 CDT, 4 July 2011

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Kerchu - Reply to #335

zzzzzing!

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InDepther - Reply to #335

this

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boenk

lol @ mlg being mlg

<< Comment #342 @ 17:01 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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koji

upgrade the P4 slasher

<< Comment #343 @ 17:01 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cYmoZz

nice games so far, but the presentation is aweful

- 720p doesnt look like it
- config is shit
- i hate the guy in the suit

casting even worse:
- they should explain how quake works before the game starts, and try more to talk about what happens in the game instead of how the players should play (so people understand whats going on)
- slasher always puts his own opinions out there like they are facts
- 2gd sounding sick and still acting like a child - (which apparentyl gets him thrown out, though imo he is the only one that is able to do great commentating)

<< Comment #344 @ 17:01 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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baneman

slasher keeps losing power in his trailer

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<< Comment #482 @ 17:37 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #344

so he's hiding a red neck beneath that long, red hair :o

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jamalz

lol@slasher

Organizes epic shit, then ruins it because he is too proud to let the pros take over at casting.

Just needs to undermine his own fucking project.

SUCH A FAIL

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<< Comment #367 @ 17:06 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #347

this, its hilarious, it keeps happening :X

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EddieF4

Can we get a caster who won't BSOD? BSOD in the year 2011?

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ffx

This jp guy is the most retarded caster I have seen in a long time. Lisp, emotionless, doesn't care about anything, etc.

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #348

Yep same felling about him, he's even like tha on LAN when doing interviews/previews/presentations. He doesn't smile. Never. Emotionless creature.

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puritan ' - Reply to #348

Fat people like to take themselves seriously.

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #385

I thought fat people were suppose to be funny.

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Dird - Reply to #481

no. just happy. like santa

with all the shit they eat they better be fuckin happy though

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karizma - Reply to #481

.. and they have a better singing voice .. :E

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raw - Reply to #385

No, they just have "good personalities" or is that ugly people, or both!

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #348

So True,
When the show first started and Slasher was talking about QL, JP looked like he couldn't careless.

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yank3 - Reply to #348

i think it's a good idea to give some sort of job to keep him from suicide, but cmon a caster with video and audience? :/

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Mitritch

FU SLASHER

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GreenMeanie

WP Slasher

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palatka

i wanna take the [+] i gave slasher back

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dlx - Reply to #354

THIS; FUCKING SHIT; GIVE ME MY PLUS BACK!

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EddieF4

Come on, can we get NVC, greasedscotsman, jehar or anybody to take over? Get moppz to take over in english. Fking slasher. Get a new PC man. Who gets BSOD in this day and age?

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erzwo

BW & LVLUP FTW

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Oh_Snaps!

Wow, if QL dies it has nothing but the community to blame. 2GD being very unprofessional, Slasher with his bad PC, at perhaps the most crucial event for QL in terms of increasing its popularity and gaining a wider audience.

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<< Comment #363 @ 17:06 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks

The hell is going on?

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Spyyder

FFS slasher just fked quake.

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Lethe

what the fuck are they waiting on slasher to fix his pc?

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ZeritoN

Chances of MLG now picking up QuakeLive after all these fails? Hmmmm...

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tourist - Reply to #366

2gd was just prepping the terrain for lol

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boenk - Reply to #366

at least it is not quake lives or one of the players' fault

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faerie_

If only Rod had not been busy swinging his rod around during the last 2 matches it could have been bearable.

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FragtioN

These stupid americans clearly dont give a damn about QL (all SC MLG bs). Bring 2GD or even russian ZERG or something. Someone passionate about QL please. Slasher doesn't give a fuck about QL, why should we be amped to listen to him commentate on a game he couldn't care about? sriously pl0x

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Yellack - Reply to #369

guess you can say alot about slasher but not that he doesnt give a fuck about ql? Thats lolish

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Nukm - Reply to #369

Slasher doesn't give a fuck about QL

slasher is the only reason these ql showmatches did happen.
jeez people really need to get a grip

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Venim - Reply to #394

Seriously. People need to give credit where credit is due.

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Nukm - Reply to #439

yeah i mean you can argue about what mistakes slasher did and that he is not a good caster and all but this thread reminds me of a cage filled with headless chickens

i mean give this guy a break, he got two casters but one shut himself out and his pc is giving him a hard time... it sucks and it could have all been avoided somehow but we are all human and you gotta make the best out of it.

Edited by Nukm at 17:29 CDT, 4 July 2011

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GUArd - Reply to #394

true man. Slasher is not superb caster, but not totaly shit. Need to adapt to his voice (sorry slash), but in general HE IS TRYING FOR QL , SO HE IS TRYING FOR US...

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koekie - Reply to #369

How can you say that Slasher doesn't care about Quake?
He has a history with the game going back to the roots and probably one of the factors that helped Quake Live into this MLG event.

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<< Comment #370 @ 17:07 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Yellack

this started so insanely good, tox ztn comeback was spray worthy, 2gd casting spiced it up and then... oh well

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puritan '

Kicking 2GD is understandable. He was there to do ql commentary, not to compare MLG to dreamhack. I know 2GD and his sense of humour, but they dont. And all they care about is to keep promoting their brand.

Its a shame, because Stermy is monotone and it takes him ages to finish a single thought with his italian english, and Slasher just never sounds excited over something, even when tox was doing incredible stuff.

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p4r4 - Reply to #371

Kicking out the best Quake commentator for making a small comparative comment about a different tournament is understandable? It's like calling "understandable" executing a person for incorrent parking.

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a hule? - Reply to #679

not just any person, but otherwise one of the best parkers in the world:))

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u3a6

Calm down there will be more quake latter with czm casting :>, not everything is lost!

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Demiurge '

2gd, you are a fucking asshole for acting the way you were considering the circumstances and importance for QL.
slasher, you are a fucking idiot for having such a piece of shit PC and no backup.
this was pretty funny, in an embarrassing way, hopefully the US matches will be better.

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raw - Reply to #374

"2gd, you are a fucking asshole for acting the way you were considering the circumstances and importance for QL."

I would [-] you a 100 times over just for this stupid comment alone.

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ischju

can anyone explain what just happend? i just got back from the gym.

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EddieF4 - Reply to #376

2GD got kicked for making a bad joke which was ok but quake is delayed....BECAUSE SLASHER HAS A TERRIBLE PC THAT BSOD'S IN THIS DAY AND AGE. Get on and help cast ischju :/

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ZeritoN - Reply to #376

MLG started up their stream but it was interrupted by Godzilla. Slasher's computer had a blue screen of death due to some midget-porn downloads being corrupt and 2GD was kicked for talking about 9/11

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ZeritoN - Reply to #391

ps - Stermy was knocked over because MATTEO THREW A CHAIR

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faerie_ - Reply to #376

extremely light joke/comparison between mlg and dh technical difficulties from 2gd ( anything that common sense would consider official event proof ) -> got kicked from skype.

In other words : SLASHER'S VOICE.

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JayDee_ - Reply to #392

The joke wasn't lite. It was cocky pissing and moaning. 2GD deserved to be cut off. What a fucking shit show all around.

Edited by JayDee_ at 17:18 CDT, 4 July 2011

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faerie_ - Reply to #430

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cycXuYzmzNg

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<< Comment #487 @ 17:39 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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palefire - Reply to #392

MLG has less technical difficulties than most quake events. I mean there for a while, it was like every single even, we were waiting hours and hours for group matches to get underway. spinning logo. It's unfair to imply, as 2gd did, that they're prone to lots of technical difficulties when quake events are notorious for much, much worse. Not to mention it's just plain disrespectful to the organization to say it ON THEIR LIVE STREAM. Not exactly the best way to promote their brand. And it's definitely not the best way to convince them to take a chance on quake. That pretty much killed any chance of MLG doing ANYTHING with quake ever again. Thanks to 2gd being a dick. Why did he even have to comment on it? What good does it do anyone to insult, no matter how lightly? It doesn't do mlg any good, it doesn't do 2gd any good, it doesn't do QUAKE any good, it doesn't do the fans any good. It was dumb and he was understandably kicked because of it. It's unfortunate for us that we're stuck without a good casting team though.

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faerie_ - Reply to #487

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&...pid2107876

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boenk - Reply to #487

what exactly is your job at mlg?

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Glot - Reply to #487

whine

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GEKKO- - Reply to #487

Honestly would you not consider removing the VOD's and preventing the community from watching the content that they have been looking forward to as worse a publicity stunt than making them available along with some guys random oppinion about the MLG?

I believe it's such a silly juvenlile solution by MLG that I have trouble actually believing that this is the true explanation of why the VOD's are missing. Just should not be the case...

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boenk - Reply to #376

2gd made fun of mlgs technical problems (which they always have..) and got kicked, now stermy and slasher desperately try to cast the games and they were bad.

at the moment there is a break because slashers pc keeps crashing for whatever reason

edit: my typing speed sucks :D

Edited by boenk at 17:11 CDT, 4 July 2011

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ischju - Reply to #393

ok. the stream im watching is showing sc2 though :(

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boenk - Reply to #399

they are waiting for slashers pc and show sc2 as a bridge

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ischju - Reply to #416

ah okay. so i guess ill wait a bit :)

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dlx - Reply to #399

its not live

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ischju - Reply to #393

thanks anyway :) 2gd has british humour. what do you expect :)

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burgonya - Reply to #376

^those
also toxjq vs avek ztn was truly fucking awesome

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ischju - Reply to #402

daaaamn it :/ i hope there will be vods. how many viewers did we have?

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boenk - Reply to #414

10k

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palefire - Reply to #376

Basically 2gd was doing a fantastic job casting the games, then his skype call cuts off or something for a minute or two, he comes back on and IMMEDIATELY insults MLG for having small technical difficulties. He dissed mlg on their own stream.... And then they understandably kicked him from casting and we were stuck with stermy and slasher, who sound so unenthusiastic. I really appreciate mlg being willing to give us quake fans some great matches to watch despite quake live not exactly flourishing right now, but this is going so poorly (primarily with casters) that I doubt mlg EVER does anything with quake again. Thanks again 2dg! This is how he revolutionizes esports, he insults the organizations that are willing to stream quake. It was the type of comment that was completely unnecessary. It didn't do MLG any good, it didn't do 2gd any good, it didn't do the quake community any good. Pretty much there's no way that MLG will ever do anything with quake again. Great show of the maturity level of our community...

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faerie_ - Reply to #486

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&...pid2107945

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Trance - Reply to #486

Register date: 4th of July.

:)

Edited by Trance at 17:59 CDT, 4 July 2011

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Cloud - Reply to #516

shitty day

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Cloud - Reply to #486

waaahhh

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p4r4 - Reply to #486

Seriously, look up in the dictionary what "insult" or "dissing" means. What 2GD did was neither, not even closely. It was a "meh" comment, maybe a tiny bit uncalled for, but it is not nearly as huge as you're trying to overblow it.
Kicking for that is understandable? It would be a sad world if all people were like you and couldn't tolerate even slightest mistakes and always overreact enormously.

Edited by p4r4 at 23:45 CDT, 4 July 2011

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #681

You've apparently never heard of implication before.

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p4r4 - Reply to #682

The dumbest people are who always look for implications where there aren't any.

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #684

What he said was an insult.

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p4r4 - Reply to #686

Insult is something offensive. What 2GD said was not offensive.

Edited by p4r4 at 00:10 CDT, 5 July 2011

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #687

Yes it was. "I'm not used to technical problems because I'm used to Dreamhack"

aka "I'm not used to technical problems because Dreamhack never has any problems"

aka "Here's a reason why this competing company is better than yours"

So yes, it was an insult, because it's offensive.

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p4r4 - Reply to #691

LOL. What are you smoking, dude? How is it offensive? It's just a statement about other company. Even if he simply outright said "Dreamhack is way better", that wouldn't be offensive also. That could be wrong or misleading, but not offensive.
Let's imagine I say "Microsoft makes more money than MLG". You really say that I've just offended MLG by that?

Edited by p4r4 at 01:50 CDT, 5 July 2011

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TheWalker - Reply to #698

You're funny.

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p4r4 - Reply to #699

Seriously. Explain, what is offensive in that statement? How it provokes anger or hate or anything? It's just some statistical comparison, maybe it is incorrect, but it's just like making mistake in some number, just say oh, sorry I've mistaken and go on.

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nude-fox - Reply to #703

okay i'll give it a shot
though i'll not call the comment offense because i don't think it was particularly

however from mlgs perspective 2gd basically just said hey everyone dreamhack is better than mlg go give your monies to dreamhack not mlg. I can see why mlg would not want him saying this kind of thing.

that being said i think they way overreacted it was one comment after a technical failure and mlg does have a history of technical problems.

so ultimately mlg was just being uptight while undervaluing 2gd's value to the quake community (or as a shoutcaster in general).

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #698

You just don't understand English then. There's no point in arguing anymore.

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Anonymous (70.26.38.106) - Reply to #796

Sorry Gillz, but he is right. It's not offensive at all -- it's along the lines of being critical about something. I'm not surprised that you are confusing 2GD's comment as being something offensive since it seems that everyone gets butthurt over totally harmless comments these days. We've become a society obsessed with always trying to be politically correct and not piss anyone off, rather than just be honest and tell the truth.

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kg - Reply to #698

I dunno, maybe you could view it as being offensive to MLG. "You are an idiot" is an opinion too and it might be offensive to somebody. Same as saying Muhammad was a pedo.

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tweenz

Now this is a fucking outrage. I've had enough now, good night, fine sirs.

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vxd

Quakelive is loosing the chances with everyday

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jamalz

THAT'S IT.

WE'RE DONE.

EVERYONE PACK UP YOUR SHIT.

QUAKELIVE IS DONE SON.

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<< Comment #401 @ 17:13 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mastertouch - Reply to #388

theres still the 8pm usa stream

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #401

Implying half of the viewers arn't in EU were it will be 1/2AM

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tweenz - Reply to #388

AND WHAT DO WE DO NOW?

WE RUN!

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #388

lol

<< Comment #396 @ 17:11 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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BasedSwag

and now it's all down to czm to save the future of quake live

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<< Comment #425 @ 17:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #396

yea seriously, they should get him to cast this

<< Comment #426 @ 17:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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lukee - Reply to #396

LOL

<< Comment #398 @ 17:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Lethe

k so what just happened?

<< Comment #400 @ 17:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Venim

The kids on jtv chat are hilarious but they should have used a better stream config =\

Still props to slasher that we got to see tox's insane ztn comeback despite his computer troubles.

I think were all pretty hard on slasher and have been for a long time but he's the reason we saw any quake on mlg and for that he gets massive props.

<< Comment #405 @ 17:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mastertouch

get off the stream when halo/cod get on.

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<< Comment #406 @ 17:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju

I am not very pleased with the American casting. A: "Oh my god, it was so awesome. LIKE OH MY GOD" It was sooo exciting. B: yeah, that was so a ton of fun.

<< Comment #407 @ 17:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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rareh

Quick recap:

-Comm issues
-they kicked 2gd
-why is that guy in the suit with lisp always getting in
-slasher bsod like 3 times
- stream quality is terrible

and now some random clueless people talking about sc2, instead of getting into av3k vs cypher...

<< Comment #408 @ 17:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ArNoz

I'm so disappointed ... When good things seems to happen to QL, it finish like this.

<< Comment #409 @ 17:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks

This whole situation is pretty fucking hilarious actually.

Unfortunate, but funny.

<< Comment #410 @ 17:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

Edited by mefajpE^ at 17:15 CDT, 4 July 2011

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<< Comment #652 @ 20:37 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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cpt.beefhart - Reply to #410

Can someone do 2GD in carbonite?

Edited by cpt.beefhart at 20:38 CDT, 4 July 2011

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<< Comment #411 @ 17:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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emb xD

They were never going to get 5 games done in an hour anyway, let alone potentially 8. I'm not sure who's idea it was to play a bo3 and a bo5 in an hour but at least they know that 8x10 is greater than 60 now.

edit: I think JP's (the bored guy in the suit) PC was streaming so I guess that's why they had to change to him so he could alt+tab to try and fix skype mid-game.

Otherwise there's no reason to actually ever do that.

Edited by emb xD at 17:16 CDT, 4 July 2011

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Wuss

I'm sick of listening to this fat piece of shit JP talk. Any idiot could do what he does. He doesn't give any insight into the games that are played he just relays information.

Also why was he switching to a camera to himself DURING the QL matches?

<< Comment #429 @ 17:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Venim - Reply to #412

He was reconnecting to skype or something

<< Comment #449 @ 17:22 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #412

I'm sick of listening to this fat piece of shit JP talk. Any idiot could do what he does. He doesn't give any insight into the games that are played he just relays information.

thats simply what he is there for and you cant blame him for not knowing a game that is not in the mlg circuit

Also why was he switching to a camera to himself DURING the QL matches?

afaik because they are streaming from his pc and he was switching out of ql to get skype fixed

people really need to calm down and not act like brainless dicks. its not like i like jp or think that he is a great caster but this is just stupid...

Edited by Nukm at 17:23 CDT, 4 July 2011

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kevz - Reply to #449

i agree its not JP's fault but come on, MLG wants to be big but with this kind of production value.... lol

<< Comment #511 @ 17:55 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #483

i agree, feels like i'm watching early esl tv again :x

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rareh - Reply to #412

because of the 2gd comment

<< Comment #413 @ 17:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Venim

The kids on jtv chat are hilarious but they should have used a better stream config =\

Still props to slasher that we got to see tox's insane ztn comeback despite his computer troubles.

I think were all pretty hard on slasher and have been for a long time but he's the reason we saw any quake on mlg and for that he gets massive props.

<< Comment #415 @ 17:16 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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vxd

its Syncerror fault

<< Comment #421 @ 17:16 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Av3k

Ehhh its so bad they kicked 2gd. But were u able to watch full match guys ? . I hope u enjoyed it , tox made nice comeback on ztn so we could watch 3 maps . I hope match with cypher will be also exciting )))

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<< Comment #437 @ 17:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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limity - Reply to #421

show your muscles for those fcking admins and stream ql..

<< Comment #438 @ 17:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #421

ztn was hilarious :)

<< Comment #538 @ 18:11 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #421

Thank you for participating tonight, you the man!

<< Comment #586 @ 19:02 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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koekie - Reply to #421

Thanks for playing man!

<< Comment #423 @ 17:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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jamalz

WHY GOD WHY SLASHER.

WHAT THE FUCK MAN?

WE TELL U TIME AND TIME AGAIN, DON'T. FUCKING. CAST.

IMAGINE RAPHA AND 2GD CASTING THIS SHIT?

EPIC Av3k VS CYPHER MATCH WITH PERFECT KNOWLEDGE AND FUNNY QUOTES AND SHIT.

BUT INSTEAD U BRING US STERMY? ARE U RETARDED? STERMY CAN'T EVEN TALK PROPERLY.

AND YOU HAVE YOURSELF? DO U THINK YOU ARE GOOD? SLASHER? SLASHER? REALLY SLASHER?

SLASHER?

COME ON MAN

FUCK

FUCK
FUCK
FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUC

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<< Comment #433 @ 17:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EddieF4 - Reply to #423

I appreciate slasher helping quake to get into this event but jebus, when we have to delay a match because your PC is horrible, that's just irritating.

<< Comment #436 @ 17:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz - Reply to #423

"EPIC Av3k VS CYPHER MATCH WITH PERFECT KNOWLEDGE AND FUNNY QUOTES AND SHIT."

ORGASM WITHIN AN ORGASM

<< Comment #440 @ 17:20 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #436

conception

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<< Comment #443 @ 17:21 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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rareh - Reply to #423

hey brah i understand the slasher hate, but don't hate on stermy.

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<< Comment #452 @ 17:23 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #443

ITS NOT HATE ITS TRUTH.

Takes him 3 minutes to say 1 line. HE IS NOT AND WAS NEVER GOOD AT CASTING

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<< Comment #453 @ 17:23 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #443

being a good commentator is not one of stermy's qualities tbh. a commentator should always have good flowing english, atleast on an event like this

<< Comment #450 @ 17:22 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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FienD - Reply to #423

Dude it's 4th of july, most of the potential casters are busy so they are working with who's available. Sucks that 2gd got booted but I can understand why, one of MLG's biggest pet peeves is looking good for their sponsors because their sponsors are everything. I can see why they gave 2GD the boot, although they could of worked it out and had him come back on, just being a little more inline.

Slasher, dude, BSOD's?! Really appreciate everything you have done getting this event together and the first map was epic, but are you running Windows 95 or something? lol

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Thorin - Reply to #450

Dude it's 4th of july, most of the potential casters are busy so they are working with who's available.

lol, pretty sure nobody was suggesting getting any of the American casters.

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FienD - Reply to #688

Pretty sure there's multiple people in this thread asking for rapha/czm to cast

<< Comment #455 @ 17:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pTOLEmy - Reply to #423

fuck off cock. Start appreciating and stop hating. Fags like you are killing the game. Cocksucking bastard.

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<< Comment #467 @ 17:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tourist - Reply to #455

no actually slasher is. but thanks for caring.

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jamalz - Reply to #455

You misunderstand. I love stermy, but i'm not an ass swallowing yes man that will agree with people because i like them.

Stermy is great in all areas except for casting. Much like slasher. Having both of them cast = fail.

JUST THE TRUTH.

<< Comment #474 @ 17:29 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pTOLEmy - Reply to #468

Whatever man. You are not alone. Most of the quake-players here in esr are just whining lil bitches who never contributed one thing to the community. Fucking wankers sitting behind their pc and whine constantly. How hard is that? I just hope QL dies soon. The hate in the community is immense :D

<< Comment #480 @ 17:36 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #423

what the fuck is your problem? they are evaluating quake, if they are evaluating anything at all, not slasher or 2gd. if they pick up QL, there are plenty of other casters they might deem more professional.

<< Comment #427 @ 17:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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limity

stream quakelive without slasher omg

<< Comment #441 @ 17:20 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ToyTiger - Reply to #427

Apparently they need him because they don't know how?

How to set up servers in QL, that is. Not how to stream. :)

Edited by ToyTiger at 17:21 CDT, 4 July 2011

<< Comment #491 @ 17:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (178.118.66.25)

aaand just when quake3 had around 10k viewers...

<< Comment #434 @ 17:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm

2GD James Harding
If MLG need help finishing the Quake, I can come back on and finish it, I dont take myself too seriously or get mad over dumb stuff. upto u!

<< Comment #435 @ 17:19 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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T1E '

THIS IS LIKE A BAD COMEDY :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

<< Comment #442 @ 17:21 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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JayDee_

You don't walk in to somebody's house, take a shit on their couch and expect not to be asked to leave. fuck

<< Comment #498 @ 17:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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khan_ - Reply to #442

A more accurate metaphor would be:

You don't walk in to somebody's house, mention the pink, uncomfortable couch and expect not to be thrown out. fuck

Edited by khan_ at 17:49 CDT, 4 July 2011

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<< Comment #444 @ 17:21 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk

how long do we have to watch the 2 morons talking about something they have no clue of?

<< Comment #445 @ 17:21 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Erudite

Good on Avek throwing away ztn deliberately - the 'come back' was tonight's only saving grace.

<< Comment #446 @ 17:21 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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jamalz

IM SO RAGED, IM ABOUT TO GO APE SHIT ON MY PUNCHING BAG GOING TO BREAK MY KNUCKLES WHILST SWEARING AT SLASHER AS TEARS STREAM DOWN MY FACE

WISH ME LUCK

<< Comment #458 @ 17:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #446

wish ya luck? ok i wil

<< Comment #490 @ 17:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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everamzah

SU FLASHER

<< Comment #447 @ 17:22 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pTOLEmy

I think we can write off QuakeLive off definately. 2GD is becoming a symbol for the quake-community. Semi-pro. Makes uncalled jokes about an organisation that might help the quake community. He like, many other quake[pro]players, still thinks you can whine like a little cunt about everything you want and then go to a pub leaving the organisation like MLG and the community with:

'James Harding
I think people need to take themselves less seriously ;) Pub time!
35 minutes ago'

Same goes for the pro-players. Alot of them are still too childish to be pro. Only stermy is trying to help the community with his site and LAN. Where is the rest?

2GD is a great caster, but he should stop making retarded jokes. Some jokes you just can't make infront of 10k ppl. How old are you man? Talking about moral of a grown up man who acts like a esport manager/commenator. Sad case.

The joke was funny btw :>

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<< Comment #463 @ 17:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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miNd - Reply to #447

hahaha

get real now u fucking idiot.

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rareh - Reply to #447

people(MLG) should learn to laugh at their, own long past and almost forgotten mistakes(mlg dallas).

btw who kicked 2gd was the kid

Edited by rareh at 17:26 CDT, 4 July 2011

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puritan ' - Reply to #447

Isnt it mainly ID's work to promote their game? Excuse me, but I dont see no fucking flashing icon saying "TUNE IN TO MLG MOTHERFUCKER" -that would help us in getting more viewers- on the Quakelive web page. These are all just people doing all the stuff in their free time for no payment.

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<< Comment #473 @ 17:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #447

i think 2gd represents the QL community pretty well, cause he acts like an incarnation of ESR.

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<< Comment #477 @ 17:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pTOLEmy - Reply to #473

exactly :)

<< Comment #494 @ 17:43 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #477

dead end

<< Comment #475 @ 17:29 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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retire - Reply to #447

https://twitter.com/#!/follow2GD/status/88006131565342720

Personally I'm on 2GD's side in this case. Professionalism isn't serious oversensitivism.

Edited by [dobo]diabz at 17:31 CDT, 4 July 2011

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stunt.us - Reply to #447

2gd is a fgt straight up. he needs the shit beat out of him as he thinks way too much of himself. fucking ugly fuck he is.

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<< Comment #854 @ 15:47 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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ted - Reply to #572

kick his ass, seabass!

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<< Comment #858 @ 16:21 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #854

im a kick ur asss

<< Comment #980 @ 08:44 CDT, 8 July 2011 >>

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horf - Reply to #858

With an Ikari optical strapped to your shoe xD

Edited by Rauvz at 08:44 CDT, 8 July 2011

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p4r4 - Reply to #447

"Semi-pro" are fascist organizations that cannot take even slightest and even justified negativity about themselves. In that episode, MLG was acting way more unprofessional and childish than 2GD.

Edited by p4r4 at 23:34 CDT, 4 July 2011

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TheWalker - Reply to #680

You're funny.

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TheWalker - Reply to #447

So true.

<< Comment #457 @ 17:24 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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palatka

GOD BLESS AMERICA

IMMA EXPLODE

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<< Comment #459 @ 17:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ZeriouS

More QuakeLive is going on... like .... now!

<< Comment #460 @ 17:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Erudite

YES NVC!

<< Comment #461 @ 17:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EddieF4

NVC I LOVE YOU

<< Comment #489 @ 17:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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m1ggan

NVC + Dahang casting now!

<< Comment #466 @ 17:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie

I made a img for JP.
http://i.imgur.com/FbmaM.jpg

Edited by GreenMeanie at 17:26 CDT, 4 July 2011

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<< Comment #770 @ 06:48 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #466

haha

Weird psychological effect as you can imagine him with each of these emotions by reading the header then staring at the face.

<< Comment #469 @ 17:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Yellack

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/ av3k vs cypher - with nvc and dahang!

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<< Comment #782 @ 07:55 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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todimus - Reply to #469

was hoping to see Av3k vs Cypher from your link but am dissapointed

<< Comment #831 @ 13:11 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #782

Why? It was there!

<< Comment #874 @ 02:04 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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todimus - Reply to #831

maybe im an idiot but i cant see it there, its a 3min video on some other game

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Yellack - Reply to #874

er, I posted that link when it was live.
Aint a vod :>

<< Comment #470 @ 17:26 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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tweenz

now just get 2gd and ill be fucking screaming in joy.

<< Comment #488 @ 17:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (88.112.27.147)

Agreed but dont hate on 2GD he has done more for esports than anyone tbh. He is just a human too.

<< Comment #471 @ 17:27 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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vxd

Its good that Slasher made this showmatches but I would suggest to give him tutorial of PC using. Its not first event when he has sth fucked up.

<< Comment #495 @ 17:44 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #471

happens when you still use win98 :>

<< Comment #485 @ 17:39 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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andre3000

Well this was almost as disappointing as it could get, so far (at least enough for me to actually log on to ESR and post). Given the anemic state of our community (as far as tournaments etc. go), this setup was a godsend, and many props to Slasher for making it happen, it is just a shame that it is, so far, covered in shameful blemishes for all parties involved.

I guess the sad thing is that if everything were scripted, it couldn't have been written much better-- aside from the stream quality. We get that insane first game on ztn, with toxjc being toxjq, and the instant appeal for any spectator that and Quake game being as prevalent as ever, then as soon as it looked like the light was ready to guide us through the night, the drama and technical difficulties arise.

The actual casting arrangement wasn't setup poorly, as long as we had 2gd as the anchor and stermy providing occasional insight, but as soon as Jay was kicked off the central nervous system of the entire cast was missing. 2gds remark was really nothing more than 2gd being 2gd, but it does make me wonder if he really was that ignorant of how MLG works-- probably one of the most straight laced of all the organizations in e-sports today. That's just how they like to do things. Given that MLG is a North American organization, I'll give 2gd the benefit of the doubt and say he really didn't expect to be booted for something seemingly so harmless. Not that he hasn't been known to troll like that/push the limits in the past, but as an avid Quake fan, he surely wouldn't want to risk jeopardizing this opportunity for QL.

I suppose the takeaway in his case is perhaps, in the future, to be more self aware of how easily it can be for his antics (of which we are all very familiar with) to be taken the wrong way. As a Quake fan, it was harder to enjoy the games after he was asked to leave-- not because they weren't enjoyable, tox was pretty close to turning hub around mid game with all his insane rails-- not because Slasher and Stermy were terrible, given the right partner, they both are more than adequate, but just because you could feel the wheels coming loose as the ride went on.

Sure, maybe the random SC2 fan or whatever isn't thinking about this and still rather enjoying the fairly entertaining matches, but given the opportunity, as a passionate, rabid disciple of all things Quake, I wanted this thing to turn out as best it could. Maybe the casting situation could get the job done, maybe it didn't bother the average viewer that you could hardly hear the game sounds, or that the visual quality of the stream could have been a lot better, but damnit, especially in the context of things it should be the fucking best.

I also assume a lot of people being busy (with it being late in Europe and it being a holiday in the states) that maybe our options were limited, but I just wonder if we couldn't have even gotten somebody like djWheat back to his roots for this stream. He seemed like a great median, considering the SC2 community is very familiar with him, he knows how to run a Quake stream and avoid technical difficulties, and he is very very friendly as far as noobs and casual spectators go. But like I said, I just assume that most of our options weren't available on short notice (then again, maybe wheat is continuing his vendetta against the community and/or id).

And that is why I so far find myself highly disappointed in how this has panned out so far. Though things are back and running again with nvc and lvlup helping out and DaHanG partnering to provide some insight. It isn't the best of situations, but this game is the only hope for an FPS with any sort of real skill curve and excitement that we have, so for better or for worse, I believe in the community as well, as dysfunctional as we may be at this point.

Last thing I will say: just want to reiterate my appreciation for Slasher for at least pulling this together, getting some great players, and everyone else who is helping out.

Let's just make sure we always find a way to put our best foot forward for these kind of things in the future, eh?

tl;dr - I sick ducks

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<< Comment #573 @ 18:51 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #485

Wheat has a vendetta against the community/id?

<< Comment #978 @ 16:46 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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andre3000 - Reply to #573

Well, for me to say that is more conjecture at this point-- but I remember before last Quakecon they (Wheat and id) kind of had a minor falling through-- or at least to the point where wheat was frustrated at how poorly organized the event had been, which had screwed up his ability to do the streaming for Quakecon that year.

Then there was the latest spat between ESR and Wheat a few months ago, which is normal fare as there are some people who can be notoriously difficult to deal with who are vocal on here, but I just sensed that his frustration had mounted enough in combination with him being busy with other things (mainly SC2) was enough for him to kind of forget about the Quake community for a while.

So vendetta isn't likely accurate, and I also will admit that I'm sure he is busy, but you think he would hop on to guest cast something in all that time.

I definitely don't speak for wheat though, and hopefully he find some time and love in his heart to do something related to Quake soon. Regardless of your opinion on him, he is an influential figure in the community and that attention from such figures is never a bad thing for community health.

<< Comment #702 @ 01:34 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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TheWalker - Reply to #485

Well said.

<< Comment #492 @ 17:41 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mastertouch

Nj_guido: lol PC gaming is so easy... You have a mouse.. lmaoo you can aim any where at your will.. Aiming on console with a controller is 10 times harder.. halo reach takes 100 times more skill than quake... if you shoot long range , you need to zoom, and if ...

<< Comment #496 @ 17:44 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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zuphrin - Reply to #492

:DDdd

<< Comment #501 @ 17:50 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #492

omg i hope he is trolling

i mean thats like saying you should play tennis with a plank of wood instead of a racket because thats 10 times harder

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<< Comment #704 @ 01:35 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Kerchu - Reply to #501

that woud be awesome,i woud watch that!

<< Comment #503 @ 17:50 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #492

hahaha

made my day

<< Comment #646 @ 20:20 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #492

ctrlvenom: 120 vs. 60 or 75 hz = overkill

<< Comment #497 @ 17:47 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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ischju

nvc and dahang are doing a good job though - they just need to explain more things that the casual observer does not understand. like weapon choice, positioning, decision making, map differences etc.

<< Comment #499 @ 17:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Trance

from the chat:

#nj_guido: Mouse is so easy, Console gamers are most skilled

Nj_guido: lol PC gaming is so easy... You have a mouse.. lmaoo you can aim any where at your will.. Aiming on console with a controller is 10 times harder.. halo reach takes 100 times more skill than quake... if you shoot long range , you need to zoom, and if ...

This is the most hilarious shit I have heard in years. Sums up most of the MLG "gamers" I guess.

Edited by Trance at 17:49 CDT, 4 July 2011

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palatka - Reply to #499

showmatch: cypher vs full halo team in QL

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boenk - Reply to #502

better idea:

cypher with xim3 vs halo player and controller in halo reach

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palatka - Reply to #504

whats xim3

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lukee - Reply to #507

keyboard mouse adapter for xbox i think

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boenk - Reply to #507

http://xim3.com/

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u3a6 - Reply to #504

quake live has controller support now, let slasher own all their top halo players in ql.

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boenk - Reply to #542

for real?

no wonder things look so bad for quake..

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u3a6 - Reply to #547

yes, quake live has xbox360 controller support for a while now xD but nobody uses it i guess...

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boenk - Reply to #733

hmm i wonder why :D

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retire - Reply to #502

Phoenix BRAH ate cypher's frag grenade
cypher: [lol] this game have no skill
Phoenix BRAH ate cypher's frag grenade
Phoenix BRAH ate cypher's frag grenade
Phoenix BRAH ate cypher's frag grenade
Phoenix BRAH ate cypher's frag grenade
Phoenix BRAH ate cypher's frag grenade
Phoenix BRAH: ......

Halo community: ..... :(

ps. i dont know halo players, just looked it up on mlg site.. forgive me for giving them an extra hit on their site :/

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lukee - Reply to #499

they're so deluded,i've seen so many console gamers try use mouse and they've failed each time

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Jamerio : - Reply to #512

A new jersey guido + Xbox + halo + Internet, has to be the ultimate c**t.

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miNd - Reply to #512

they're so deluded,i've seen so many console gamers try use mouse and they've failed each time

Just like every mouse user thinks that using a pad is easy

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lukee - Reply to #587

I actually find it difficult to use a pad for fps',I never stated it was easy.Others may think otherwise though.

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kapca - Reply to #587

Fucking an ostrich also must be hard, sorry if I prefer girls.

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ted - Reply to #587

I just consider it inferior. I could paint a picture with the tip of my dick or I could just hold a brush and use my arms. Either way is difficult but that is besides the point now isn't it?

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dansen - Reply to #587

i cant use a pad for fuck, i just lay it on my legs and mash at it.

but i watched a bit of the halo stream, and the tracking-aim presented by the players would get your QL account banned. so i'd say its not really that much about how good you are with the controller.

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function9 - Reply to #499

If that guy ever does happen to even try quakelive, I look forward to his whine on the forums about LG being overpowered.

<< Comment #500 @ 17:49 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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wch

cloud 9 without cl0ck?

shit is just wrong son.

<< Comment #505 @ 17:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Derb_

why dm13 for this match? i mean it's not proper to show the skills for these two. They should've done hektik ffs. peopl are going to be bored by this

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Venim - Reply to #505

Seriously. dm13 was an awful choice to promote ql

<< Comment #552 @ 18:20 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Migy

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/ig...of/c23ly6e

Oh don't worry, it's fine. Apparently it's all my fault

mrmlgclap: Totalbisquit begs us for a job all the time then tries to insult us live on air? Really professional

mrmlgclap: sorry that does not fly here

mrmlgclap: Like he had a sense of humor when JP made fun of him last year on reddit? Thin skin for someone so 'witty'

Apparently I commentate Quake now and insulted MLG live on their stream XD

Big love MLG but I want whatever that staffer was smoking. A tip for future. 2gd's the handsome one with the hair, easy to tell us apart.

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fuzz - Reply to #552

such a tool

fits to be orga in console gaming :)

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #552

TotalBiscuit is an absolute spastic though.

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MindTheGap - Reply to #579

just one of the best sc2 caster. nice try

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #594

He's a dickhead, man.

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faerie_ - Reply to #596

The only thing I've heard of him is what leaked into joe and 2gd's mics at ugc.

Am I right if he reminds me of Tosspot, yet somehow ( as if that was actually doable by someone else than wheat ) way worse ?

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #603

I suppose his casting is a bit reminiscent of TosspoT, but .. yeah, way worse in the over-the-top way. I like TosspoT's casting though (liked? Does he ever cast now?).

Edited by EmSixTeen at 19:25 CDT, 4 July 2011

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Trance - Reply to #596

he's a nice guy IRL. Only that his casting voice is his real voice, I pity his wife lol

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #605

In real life? I've never met him, nor do I want to - I never knew who he was at the time, but I had a 'run-in' with him online and he thought he was the dog's bollocks with superior intellect and wit. In reality, he was a meme abusing prick without an intelligent word to say.

People started backing him up, I googled the name, and quickly found out why he was under the illusion he was a somebody with opinions over others. Gradually over time I've seen his thumb stuck his own arse again and again.

All this before I ever actually heard him and realised how fucking annoying he is. I enjoy Starcraft streams with other shoutcasters, but his voice and casting (lack of) style? No thanks.

He's a dickhead, man.

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MindTheGap - Reply to #618

butthurt comment

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #622

Stupid cunt.

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Trance - Reply to #618

All I'm saying is that sometimes the online persona is not the same as the IRL one.

I didn't watched many of his casts, but I have interacted with him IRL twice, at UGC and DHS this year and he seemed to be an ok guy with a loud voice.

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #629

I'm sure he was nice to you in real life, but he was a prick to me online, a real narcissist.

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Dird - Reply to #629

how do they confuse him with 2bd ;o he looks like a fatter version of dis from the side here

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MindTheGap - Reply to #596

an average of 3k viewers on his shoutcraft-stream contradict ur opinion

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #621

Ah, yes. I didn't comment on his casting ability (though I did brush on it in my reply to Trance..).

In much the same way that Black Ops can have a million people playing in one night, this figure doesn't impress me.

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MindTheGap - Reply to #626

well i mentioned his caster skills in my first post ;) but if u have some vendetta goin on with him, nvm

Edited by MindTheGap at 19:51 CDT, 4 July 2011

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zar4 - Reply to #594

rofl oh dear

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rareh - Reply to #594

actually the worst one, he is totally clueless

even kelly or moletrap, which are also awful are better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAUBK0sImGI&feature=related

Edited by rareh at 02:37 CDT, 5 July 2011

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MindTheGap - Reply to #716

thats why he is so succesfull, right...

neither tasteless has the deepest insight of sc2 gamemechanics and is yet one of the most popular casters. caster skill is not only about game knowledge. its about personalty and voice. 2gd is a good example for that. he just made a big impact in the sc2 scene and doesnt know shit about the game.

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rareh - Reply to #762

he is successful cause of his youtube fame.

If obama or britney casted sc2 it would also be very successful.

oh and tasteless actually understands the game...u probably are new to sc and think tasteless doesn't understand the game, cause he has a less analytic role then artosis on gsl.

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MindTheGap - Reply to #773

tasteless doesnt have the insight artosis/day9 have. thats a known fact. well maybe u r new and should take a look at reddit/TL. have fun. and u didnt even got my argument about personality...

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rareh - Reply to #785

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whjhZfguOT8

day9 insight ftw

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MindTheGap - Reply to #794

lol wtf? do u have any logic in ur argumenting? lol

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vedic - Reply to #785

Artosis may have insight, but he's fucking horrible at casting.

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Jamerio :

Cypher so nice to watch :)

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boenk

is it just me or is the stream lagging like shit now?

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Mitritch - Reply to #514

Sure, cause it is Lag Ops time now!

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mefajpE^

From TL, dunno if its true but hilarious nonetheless

According to TotalBiscuit, someone at MLG mistook him for 2GD.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/ig...of/c23ly6e
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Oh don't worry, it's fine. Apparently it's all my fault
mrmlgclap: Totalbisquit begs us for a job all the time then tries to insult us live on air? Really professional
mrmlgclap: sorry that does not fly here
mrmlgclap: Like he had a sense of humor when JP made fun of him last year on reddit? Thin skin for someone so 'witty'
Apparently I commentate Quake now and insulted MLG live on their stream XD
Big love MLG but I want whatever that staffer was smoking. A tip for future. 2gd's the handsome one with the hair, easy to tell us apart.

http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/88013778620391424
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Dear MLG, just because it's 4th of July does not mean you get to mistake @follow2gd for me. How insulting :[

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rareh - Reply to #517

hahahaha

this is even funnier then the guy saying halo takes more skill then quake

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boenk - Reply to #517

lol @ mlg being mlg again

how can a company run by amateurs have such a large pool of sponsors?

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kevz - Reply to #517

rooooofl, the last bit of respect i had for MLG went down the toilet if thats true

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Borl - Reply to #517

Great post from that reddit link:

2GD vs TotalBiscuit

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stunt.us - Reply to #566

hajha i remember that shit was hilarious 2gd being 2funny there

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son1dow

CoD is up, turn the stream off guys

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son1dow - Reply to #518

'sif I need to tell anyone lol

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puritan ' - Reply to #521

:D

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GreenMeanie

"Now I know how it feels to run an MLG-Event, constant technical issues... I'm so use to Dreamhack."

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ZeriouS

What´s going on now? COD? Nexy, Rambo? Well... Nexy seems excited to the max.... gonna watch some COD ;D

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pretty strong numbers. 10k for tox vs av3k
8k for av3k vs cypher

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tweenz - Reply to #525

couldve been far better if it wasnt interrupted by slasher and 2gd wasnt kicked off

well, im still thankful for that, 10k is a solid number

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puritan ' - Reply to #525

Im wondering what number would we get to if there was a direct stream link on the QL main page on events like this. But I understand that ID's QL team is busy with playing wow and eating pizza.

Edited by puritan at 18:16 CDT, 4 July 2011

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #525

I'm pretty sure that ~8-9k was actually SC2 audience. They were waiting for some 2v2 game and they seem to like Quake in general. Quake is a good sub game, just like Carmac said.

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GreenMeanie

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&am...ID%3D17145

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faerie_ - Reply to #528

yeah the lack of soundcheck was pretty obvious given how loud 2gd was and low stermy was.

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onlyDM6forever

great games by avek, cypher and toxic!
to bad their performance was overshadowed by all the mlg fuckup

<< Comment #531 @ 18:05 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk

so how long does a cod match last? i don't want to watch those two "gangsters" talking about an even more campstyle game than counterstrike

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Erudite

Thanks nvc for stepping in and salvaging a complete mess! Solid commentary as always!

When are the next QL games due?

<< Comment #534 @ 18:06 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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krutov

VOD: http://sv.justin.tv/mlg_live/b/289492999

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tweenz - Reply to #534

epic 2gd quote at 20:40, but i suggest you watch it from like 20:00 to fully understand the circumstances

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stripy

no ql, so close streams now :DD
and then again on in two hours^^

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<< Comment #537 @ 18:10 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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dem0n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXasCjUTNpE&feature=related

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<< Comment #540 @ 18:12 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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GreenMeanie

http://sv.justin.tv/mlg_live/b/289492999
20:40

Edited by GreenMeanie at 18:13 CDT, 4 July 2011

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incanu7

the funniest part of the evening is actually watching captain bearded here and "Rambo" (oh the irony) talking about "skill" in CoD.

<< Comment #548 @ 18:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Slasher

I will comment more later on but I wanted 2GD to stream for the good of the Quake community, and general spectators. Sigh.

My computer has blue screened 4-5 times in a row. I should note this is a new computer and this hasn't happened before (unrelated to my other failures). The stream is a bit delayed, and will see what matches we can get in. I will not be casting, someone else will, but they will happen! Will probably pick CTF over Duel if it comes down to do it.

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pks - Reply to #548

Please please please please not Troubled Waters. Please.

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Venim - Reply to #548

You did a great job considering all that happened. Thanks

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boenk - Reply to #548

don't worry, mlg ALWAYS has technical issues and things like that just happen

so thank you for getting ql (and toxic) on stream :>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #548

If you get a bsod TWICE, it's time for a backup computer.

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son1dow - Reply to #548

your bad luck with technology is incredible... Can wait to hear how they'll make fun of you in LO3.

Do you keep doing something wrong and realize it after somebody tells you, or are all of these issues... A conspiracy, maybe?

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nvc

Hi guys i hope i did okay, everyone in my house is asleep so i had to keep my volume low. I tried my best to explain quake live whilst commentating as well! :)

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jamalz - Reply to #549

That was a shining moment of brilliant casting from you NVC. You totally saved the day and cast better than Dahang/Stermy/Slasher and even 2GD.

You said full length armor names and weapon names, gave tons of information for newbs and had really nice play by play comments that made the game exciting.

You might not have been the greatest caster in previous matches or tournaments, but today you blew everyone away.

Fantastic job mate.

Edited by jamalz at 18:26 CDT, 4 July 2011

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boenk - Reply to #549

thanks for hopping in on short notice :>

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tweenz - Reply to #549

You're the boss. You and Dahang really saved it from becoming an abomination.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #549

Yeah, good job. I hope you cast the rest of the games!

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faerie_ - Reply to #549

you did well, I just really don't understand why you actually did it.

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ischju - Reply to #565

because he cares and it is actually fun to cast?

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faerie_ - Reply to #570

Let it die ffs. It's been on life support for 2 years, tonight was a decent enough occasion to understand how much pain the game endures, pull the plug and move on to something else.

Nvc just put some more morphine in the tubes.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #591

what are you on about? if you don't like to watch quake, then don't, no is forcing you. there are plenty of those who still like quake, and there are plenty of those who have never heard of quake who will like it. who are you to tell anyone else what to do?

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jamalz - Reply to #591

Shut up fag, hope your mouse bug never fixes so u can't play quake at all.

Been quaking since quake fucking 1. I only play quake as a video game. I don't give a shit about you traitorous faggots.

I want quake to live, i want quake to win, i want Quake.

Bitches like you are a dime a dozen, in it when your winning, out when your losing.

I'm a fucking captain, down with the ship, loyal to the bone, nigga to the nig.

All you fake bitches need to step off.

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faerie_ - Reply to #602

I don't remember saying " move on to something that's not quake " ?

Feels like I'm actually more concerned about what will happen the day id will pull the plug than most people around here.

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jamalz - Reply to #607

We go back to CPMA and play some promode ctf. sup?

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faerie_ - Reply to #611

Or you could actually get involved and somehow help shape the possible next iteration of quake, the one that will never be released by id ( and let's be honest that won't be played by many people but at least it would be yours ).
Any form you want, I don't care. Going back to the osp/cpma vq3 split is what would kill the community in the end.

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InDepther - Reply to #613

go to raythenoob's house and cry together

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faerie_ - Reply to #650

I'm sorry, I didn't follow the drama, what was it about already, tierslummers and cheaters iirc?

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cha0z_ - Reply to #549

Thanks

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m1ggan

For anyone who missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZfIDs2e-PQ

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foctis - Reply to #568

What happened after this, did MLG kick him from the stream?

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pks - Reply to #578

yep

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foctis - Reply to #580

Oversensitive for sure, but it was a pretty dumb joke. It didn't seem very humorous, just a gratuitous insult. I kind of wish 2GD would make up his mind about whether he cares about Quake and is willing to be slightly disciplined when he casts, or doesn't care and can just leave it to people who do.

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sirax - Reply to #608

Are you taking the piss?

2GD did nothing wrong. I can't believe the drama over that comment, if anything he was just bigging up dreamhack.

MLG = fat ameri-nerds who are bitter because 2GD got the swedish chicks.

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foctis - Reply to #715

Nah not taking the piss. Obviously it was an overreaction, but I'm a bit sick of 2GD's too-cool-for-school attitude.

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Anonymous (70.26.38.106) - Reply to #730

I wouldn't call it a too-cool-for-school attitude as much as not taking himself or anything else too seriously. I mean there really is no need to go through life being uptight about everything -- why stress over it. It's actually refreshing IMO to have someone with personality, rather than a boring automaton who just tells me exactly what I can see with my own two eyes already.

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foctis - Reply to #876

I agree with you to some extent. One thing that really gets me down about professional sport in my country (specifically Australian football) is how freaking seriously everyone takes it. Money is king, everyone has to be stony-faced and pretend the game is the most important thing in the world, interviews are worse than pointless because the players are well-trained robots who give away absolutely nothing (and of course the media are too spineless to call them on this), and actual passion for the game as a fun thing to do seems almost absent.

But from what I've seen -- and obviously ythis is just the opinion of a random internet chump who doesn't know him personally -- 2GD actually does take *himself* pretty seriously, he just likes to rip the piss out of everyone else. Which is fine a lot of the time, but sometimes (IMO) he crosses the line into being genuinely insulting, and at other times he seems unwilling to recognise he's in a setting where some of his insult-jokes won't be appreciated, and tone himself down for the sake of avoiding awkwardness and unpleasant vibes.

Edited by foctis at 18:54 CDT, 6 July 2011

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karizma

seems like i didnt miss anything.

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<< Comment #569 @ 18:38 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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BasedSwag - Reply to #567

nah you missed one of the sickest ztn combacks ever

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ischju

omg that sniper game looks so noob.

<< Comment #574 @ 18:51 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen

At least Halo commentary has enthusiastic (if annoyingly so) passive gameplay commentary.

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jamalz - Reply to #574

stop giving them viewers, turn off stream until quakelive :(

<< Comment #598 @ 19:09 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #595

I did, but tuned back in to see if the other games were on yet. I do enjoy top level Halo (and top level anything, pretty much - skill is skill), though gonna get off and head to bed for an oddly early night.

<< Comment #575 @ 18:52 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Spyyder

Quake had more viewers than CoD, and Halo. 10k ppl watching quake when slasher was on, was around 9-8.5k after they got dahang/nvc. Halo has 6.4k as im typing this. :D

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #575

That's true, actually. I guess it is the evening of the 4th of July though, might be a contributor.

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pks - Reply to #575

Halo and CoD will bring a trillion times the people to a LAN than Quake ever will.

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incanu7 - Reply to #582

only if it's on a weekend so their moms can drive them there.

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<< Comment #592 @ 19:05 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #582

whats ur point u fgt?

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pks - Reply to #592

That this is a fairly hollow victory(?) for Quake.

Still, it's nice to see that Halo and CoD stream numbers are no where remotely near what I had imagined.

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #575

And now it's zero4 vs rapha and there's only 5800 viewers, so I doubt it's anything about fan-base. Pretty much everyone is sitting through all the games to see the ones they want, which is why they peppered quake and SC here and there throughout the day to keep everyone on the stream, at least keep them coming back. It doesn't really have anything to do with quake imo.

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Spyyder - Reply to #638

and it went back up to 6400 before it was over, with a ctf game left to play. But viewers are obviously gonna drop as europe goes to sleep and ppl got to parties and fireworks shows. :/

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zealot - Reply to #638

i quit the second or third time slasher's pc crashed, not sitting through any of this. didn't the viewercount drop from 11k to 5-6k over the course of this?

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h8m3 - Reply to #575

It's just europe that wasnt sleeping in the beginning...

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zar4 - Reply to #575

RETARD TURN IT OFF THEN

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vedic

Despite the epic fail, and that fact that it almost certainly won't happen, I hope MLG do pick up QL so that they can drop it shortly after when they realize what a horrible idea it was, and we can get more whining about it on ESR.

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obi - Reply to #584

ur not cool

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vedic - Reply to #589

u jelly?

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Anonymous (93.189.2.218) - Reply to #584

You actually watch a game you don't care about?

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vedic - Reply to #639

No, I just read the comments in the threads.

<< Comment #588 @ 19:03 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Slasher

MLG Live - North American Quake Duel & CTF will be NEXT after Reach at ~8:30 PM EST/02:30 CET - ZeRo4 vs Rapha Bo5 casted by DaHanG, followed by Evil Geniuses (DaHanG, viju, id, kgb) vs Cloud [9] (ZeRo4, rapha, br1ck, ?) - Tune in at http://www.MLG.tv

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Nukm - Reply to #588

is z4 in form? otherwise its going to a very boring bo5

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stunt.us - Reply to #588

lol good night cloud 9. zero4 sucks cock at ctf and shouldnt be allowed to play.

<< Comment #590 @ 19:04 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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supersonicwaffle

surprised to see quake doing better than MLG's circuit games black-ops and halo viewer wise.

also quake seems to get a ton of love from teamliquid which should be one of, if not the, most important platforms for them.

hope this sends a message to the higher ups in the MLG offices!

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faerie_ - Reply to #590

because 80% of the european community was watching. I didn't think it would be that hard to understand.

Edited by faerie_ at 19:07 CDT, 4 July 2011

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #593

ye, console gaming probably isn't nearly as big on the european side of the pond and less popular amongst the SC2 crowd, but I guess tonight's numbers should ensure that there are at least a couple more quakelive showmatches featured on MLG-TV before they start evaluating numbers.

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Venim - Reply to #590

Probably would have had more viewers if the stream config was better. It was using something like picmip 4 when it should have used 0 or a high number like 16

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faerie_ - Reply to #606

0 = can't see shit unless you have the bandwidth of the nasa.

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #606

dude, I highly doubt any people taking an interest in competitive gaming give two shits about the difference between picmip 0 and 2 except for some console kids. I mean we're talking about people who have been watching brood war which looked like some weird puddle of alien puke in a ZvX.

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #590

But now it's quake again and it's only at 5900 viewers, so I don't really think it has anything to do with fan-base of quake. I think it's just people sitting around for all the games (quake, sc, halo, and cod), and now that most of it is over for the other games (just one SC game left after the quake) then it's just quake viewers (and some starcraft viewers waiting for the last game), so now it's probably a more accurate estimate of quake viewership, though still fairly inaccurate.

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #637

well, when CoD got on after the av3k vs cypher game the viewers dropped by like 2k+ but they were stable and went up a little (around +500 towards the end of z4 vs rapha) when QL got back on. even if this doesn't say anything about quake, it says something about CoD and halo.

Edited by sk8erboi at 20:19 CDT, 4 July 2011

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ffx - Reply to #637

It's kinda late in europe and some of us have to go to uni, work, school ...

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<< Comment #609 @ 19:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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foctis

Channels

Pro-Circuit
Games
Dr Pepper UGH

Hah, I guess the guy who was making the list stopped for a sip of drink without looking at the bottle, and got a nasty surprise :D

<< Comment #612 @ 19:17 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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lukee

no czm :/

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NivX

ql is back on, turn your streams on again :P

Edited by NivX at 19:20 CDT, 4 July 2011

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lukee

LOBBY????

FFFFUUUUUU

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<< Comment #619 @ 19:25 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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pks

Should have done all the Quake at once, putting it on after CoD or Halo is like trying to follow up a really, really bad comedian.

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foctis - Reply to #619

Doesn't that make you look better by comparison? Everyone is a bit nervous at first, but then when you show them that you're actually competent and give them a few easy laughs, they're relieved and warm to you quickly.

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foctis - Reply to #623

Assuming they're still in the building, of course. But there are still nearly 6000 viewers :))

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pks - Reply to #623

Hmm I'm not sure, I wouldn't want to go on stage right after someone bombed. I think there is a Seinfeld episode about this, maybe I'll consult it later tonight.

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mefajpE^

After few beers: I'm actually really happy that ZeRo4 is still around. One of my alltime heroes. How nerdy am I?

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Teen Queen '

recap:
- Someone actually attempts to do something for the future existence of quake
- Community whines like shit

<3 quake scene

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<< Comment #631 @ 19:40 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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jamalz

Fishstix ur sounding good today, lead dahang with questions and you do the play by play. Dahang seems to be lost at casting and has a monotone voice so u gotta be the lead. GO FISH U GOT THIS

<< Comment #634 @ 19:55 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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viewtifulsub

Oh man, zero4's rails :\

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MindTheGap

the cfg looks really good now.

<< Comment #636 @ 19:58 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen

FishStix doing some decent commentating. Try and use full names for the newbs watching though, LG as lightning gun, etc.

Sound is quite out of sync. :(

<< Comment #642 @ 20:13 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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son1dow

rapha: I'm not your dkt on hektik, ZeRo4

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<< Comment #643 @ 20:15 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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jamalz

rapha man.. couldnt u have thrown z4 a bone on aerowalk and hektik? Come on man this isnt for $, make it dramatic u bible faggot

IS IT A SIN TO MISS A COUPLE RAILS OR A ROCKET OR TWO WHEN UR UP BY 5? COME ON U FUCK

How can he be so smart but so fucking stupid at the same time?

Stomping zero4 = boring match = MLG won't pick it up = No more $ for your ass to win in quakelive = get a job at mcdonalds bitch

fuck, do i have to be the brains of this operation? im fucking stupid, come on ppl step up

Edited by jamalz at 20:33 CDT, 4 July 2011

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Migy - Reply to #643

man, i laughed for a whole minute after reading this :D wp

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EddieF4 - Reply to #643

I thought he already did by letting zero4 take one map. Rapha could have easily made it a 3 mapper

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jamalz - Reply to #651

No.. you have to craft the games as a story.

First game = close match so ppl know they are even skilled.

2nd game go up 10-0 then let zero4 comeback 10-9, hit overtime 10-10 then win it or lose it, doesn't matter.

3rd game, let zero4 go up 7 frags, 5 minutes in GO APESHIT on him. win it blowing him out of the water 14-7 or some shit.

4th game. If you lost 2nd game, then play this straight 5-0 then at 8 minutes or so give zero4 run of the map, give him 4 frags making it 5-4 with 30 sec left and then RUN like a mofo, if zero4 wins its EPIC. If you win its EPIC.

5th game, last 1. Go balls deep. up 5-0? Let him 5-5. Go up 10-5, let him 10-10. Make it INTERESTING. NOT SHIT.

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onlyDM6forever - Reply to #653

staging games would been the worst thing could have happened. just stop with that. altho a z4 vs czm would have been more appropiate for the occasion

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jamalz - Reply to #659

Its only rapha staging the game, zero4 would play it straight. Rapha is that good to make it look real.

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boenk

<3 catz playing

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Nukm

Artosis Dan Stemkoski
for anyone who hasn't watched professional quake before, you should give it a try! its actually awesome - teamliquid.net/video/streams/…

<3

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<< Comment #658 @ 20:39 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #649

gotta love this guy (even if hes protoss :x )

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kevz - Reply to #658

if it wasnt for artosis we wouldnt have a name for artosis pylons u know :P

<< Comment #664 @ 20:48 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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zar4

So did cypher vs avek get played on stream?

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #664

ya, Cypher 2-1 avek.

<< Comment #668 @ 21:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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mr_skull

When is CTF happening?

<< Comment #670 @ 21:30 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #668

never it seems :/

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ipx! - Reply to #670

What? CTF wasnt played?? :(

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boenk - Reply to #689

i went to bed at 6 german time and if i'm not mistaken that would be 11 pm in dallas / tx and until then there was no ctf and no one actually said something about it on stream :/

<< Comment #669 @ 21:29 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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davis

Whole lot of butthurt people in this thread.

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jamalz - Reply to #669

my penis apologizes

<< Comment #672 @ 21:35 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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oneroomdisco

Well that was a dumb thing to say - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZfIDs2e-PQ

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #672

It really was. Rude and unprofessional, and dissing them on their own live stream... not exactly doing quake any favors with comments like that. They surprise us by actually streaming some actual great quake matches and then he does that. Completely disrespectful, and makes the whole community look bad when he makes immature comments like that. And it really sucks because he's such a great caster when he's not being a complete douchebag, and we wound up being stuck with slasher (who I really appreciate helping make this whole thing happen) and stermy who just don't work that well as casters. 2gd not doing the quake community any favors....

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pks - Reply to #674

What's professional about booting him off the stream? As opposed to telling him not to do it again, or just taking the jest lightly as I'm sure it was meant.

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #676

What's professional about responding to someone directly insulting your organization on YOUR live stream? That's what happens when you do things like that. There are consequences to the things you say. It was their stream, we were lucky enough to have them run some quake games (which they obviously never do), and he goes and makes a completely unnecessary statement rudely and negatively directed toward the organization that's putting this all together for us..... Obviously for 2gd, it's not some terrible thing, but in terms of professionalism, it's extremely rude and disrespectful what he said on THEIR live stream, and it's not exactly promoting their brand to diss them, so they kicked him off. Completely understandable. Someone's on your stream, then what they say reflects on you, and when that someone is a douche and insults you, you boot them. It's very simple. It's not like they fined the guy. They just said we gave you a shot, you sniped at us and blew it, and now your shot's over. They gave him a chance, he blew it for us all, and that's that. Actions have consequences. This is the best way for douchebags to learn to not be... douchebags. How is it not professional to react when someone disses you on your own stream? It's not his god-given right to be given chance after chance just because he's known in the quake commmunity as a notorious dickhead. They gave him a chance, he said what he said, and we reaped the consequences. Unfortunate all around, but it's not MLG's fault, it's 2gd's. That comment did NOTHING to enhance the commentary or spectator experience at all, it only detracted.

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Naghokez - Reply to #707

They didn't "give him a chance". He's the one who made them a favor by agreeing to cast.

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Trance - Reply to #707

oh it's you again :D

The whole thing was unfortunate and blown out of proportion by MLG. What he said wasn't ok but MLG's reaction to it was even worse. At the end of the day I wouldn't say it was a fail for quake since the numbers were pretty good.

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khan_ - Reply to #707

I felt personally insulted when I tried to spend MY time watching past MLG streams, only to be treated to ridiculous preparations; as evidenced by the crude performance on the 4th.

Now, 2GD puts it all in a little jab, a little joke, and I immediately felt better. They then proceed to kick him off the stream in some sort of a childish dick move.

MLG; Fuck you. Sincerely.

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Oh_Snaps! - Reply to #707

I agree, when he made that comment it made me cringe up...

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Dird - Reply to #676

if they told him not to say it again he'd probably be like "ive just been told to watch my language bla bla" on stream

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InDepther - Reply to #744

I don’t share ur 2gd h8, but I agree with you here. He wouldn’t just drop it. He wouldn’t be 2gd if he did.

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p4r4 - Reply to #674

Really, just some minor remark about tehcnical difficulties at different tournament and it's already "rude" and "dissing"? What the fuck is with you oversensitive bitches?

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #677

Did you hear what he said? And how he said it? It was obviously directed negatively toward MLG, the company ORGANIZING this whole thing for us, the fans. It's one thing to denigrate someone off the record, but on their own stream, while it's live, is not only unprofessional (making a hell of an impression for the quake community, and assuring they won't take any more chances on quake), but totally disrespectful. Hence they booted him. If you can't see how it's disrespectful to comment negatively toward an organization while you're on their stream speaking directly to their fans/viewers, then I don't know what to tell you. I mean what did he want to accomplish by saying that? It was rude, and did nothing to better the experience for anyone at all. There are consequences to actions in life. Not everything you do in life earns you a warning. He insults them, he got kicked. Understandable, and unfortunate for the community as we're the ones who really lose out, but it's not MLG's fault that he chose to make the remark on their live stream.

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sirax - Reply to #708

It's called comedy. It makes shit more interesting.

Fucking fat ameri-nerds, honestly. So used to being laughed at irl that when it happens on their precious internet, they go on a power trip.

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SEPHYtp - Reply to #708

They were the ones who officially announced that 2GD were to commentate the event, without even speaking to 2GD in the first place. They obviously wanted him to commentate, but they didn't do their homework, this is how 2GD is, he jokes and makes fun of people. I'm not trying to justify what he said, but having heard 2GD commentate for years now, and I know alot of you agree that this is typical 2GD. Unfortunatly, JP went tit for tat and kicked him off the stream.

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Dird - Reply to #729

slasher wanted 2bd and asked before (no reply). 'they' dont even know who 2bd is and thought it was TotalBiscuit

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onlyDM6forever - Reply to #708

happy july 4th dear united states of america!!

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InDepther - Reply to #677

It sounded really bad to me when I listened it live on stream

I was like "what?? ... why??? ... I hope nobody from MLG heard it"

Also, like dird rightly said, you can’t just tell 2gd to not do it again. It won’t work. It would be like throwing oil to a fire.

<< Comment #726 @ 03:03 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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dynodeath - Reply to #674

god ur an uptight cunt, he said nothing harsh. get over it. :)

2gd fan

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boenk - Reply to #672

ye, no sponsoring from microsoft for 2gd in the future ;>

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dynodeath - Reply to #672

Can't the youtube poster post some more of the VOD's so we can see the games plz :)

<< Comment #765 @ 06:23 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Daddy_ - Reply to #672

wtf they kicked 2gd for that? omg idiots

<< Comment #678 @ 23:14 CDT, 4 July 2011 >>

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Demiurge '

Now, now, what's done is done. Everyone relax.

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raw

Absolutely outstanding comeback by Tox on bloodrun. I will be dedicating a wank in the name of those rails!

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jamalz - Reply to #694

ya dood.. i was like O.O ? cuz like everyone casting went quiet when toxjq started hitting those rails. It was a feeling i can't even describe, just awe inspiring. I couldnt even jizz, just stopped fapping cuz i was amazed.

fucking amazing

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raw

Oh, and as for the comments about 2gd, Jay is and always has been a bit on the controversial side, fairly sure he can't help it ;-) he's been this way since i can remember and its just how he commentates, let him get on with it (MLG).

Perhaps he shouldnt have said what he did but even still, good caster and a shame to lose him from the stream last night.

Edited by raw at 01:16 CDT, 5 July 2011

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abso

any vods of tox vs av3k game online ?

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crack - Reply to #705

this!!!

<< Comment #718 @ 02:46 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #705

Exactly. This link doesn't work http://sv.justin.tv/mlg_live/b/289492999

VODs?!

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deji - Reply to #705

This.

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dynodeath - Reply to #705

Can't see any online atm.. First game had some class rails by tox at the end. the second game I only got the first 5 mins. They said the VOD's were going to posted straight after... Avek is pretty much on his game atm.. Wonder what the result was.

BTW anyone know what the keyboard was, that the main hoster was using? I like the look of those slim keys!

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kK_Storm

I won't read any comments until I watch the games. 1EENK T0 V0D5 P10X?

p.s. was quake stream a success? how many people were watching it? i had fucking no fucking internet, what an epic timing ...

Edited by kK_Storm at 02:49 CDT, 5 July 2011

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rareh - Reply to #719

around 10-11k BEFORE all the problems
cod only had 6k and it was immediately after

so i think its safe to say ql was a success

Edited by rareh at 04:04 CDT, 5 July 2011

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kK_Storm - Reply to #722

Whoah, pretty good. Can you elaborate please what kind of difficulties were there?

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rareh - Reply to #725

-comm issues (due to skype, use teampseak, mumble etc guys!)
-matches got delayed(slasher got like 5 bsod, lol still using win95)
- 2gd got kicked from casting for making a funny joke
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2108387#pid2107966

- stream quality looked horrible for 720p
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2108387#pid2107639

i think there were 1 or 2 more, but i remember those.

Edited by rareh at 04:18 CDT, 5 July 2011

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Cyn1c - Reply to #737

Honestly, the TSL3 streams were far better than this so called 720p shit.

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InDepther - Reply to #743

720p+ was good though

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rareh - Reply to #725

edited my last post so u wouldn't read spoilers

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Anonymous (69.37.2.170) - Reply to #722

Didn't SirScoots laugh at slasher when slasher said he could get 5000 people to watch a quake stream at MLG ? So we got 11k ? What now scoots? You old jack off ?

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Trance - Reply to #753

ahahah really? Well it wouldn't surprise me, Scoots is a complete tart.

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<< Comment #723 @ 02:51 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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dlx

i think MLG cant understand that 2GD casting for free is bigger than get some weird comments about their technical issues.

<< Comment #727 @ 03:04 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Six16

Totally missed everything, guess i'll watch vods later :S

<< Comment #731 @ 03:17 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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koekie

Was the CTF match played? Went to bed after the Z4 vs. rapha game

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ischju - Reply to #731

was it any good? i was sleeping :D

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koekie - Reply to #734

T4 was good, other maps were dominated by rapha :(

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Aquashark '

im loving the supportive comments on TeamLiquid (again)

this shows that 1vs1 deathmatch could have at least a good fanbase (and a solid playerbase through extension), if only id or someone plays their cards right

the main problem to tackle in my view is to make the entry level low enough for people to enjoy the game, while keeping the depth to what it is now. the game needs a mechanic like a moral boost, that is not actually being guaranteed.. and works mostly at low-mid level of play, while not changing the upper-mid gameplay too much.

i feel the main aspect to be targeted by the above paragraph should be item timing and how it works. it needs an overhaul with more accessibility because it's too much of a deterrent right now.

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InDepther - Reply to #735

ladders and an appropriate skill rating would had helped

like it is now, the vast majority of ppl (maybe more than 95%) can only watch duel (not play).

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Zanno - Reply to #735

that's easy

make something like a team version of dmm4 or clan arena the default go-to gametype

the one thing that all casual bullshit fps games have in common is you don't need to scrounge for a decent weapon off spawn

tf2: class based, pick the gun you want and you're all set

halo: in halo ce, the only halo in the series worth mentioning, you spawn with the best weapon in the game, but the hardest to use

cod: particularly amusing in this regard as you get all these fancy unlocks for playing for weeks and weeks but you usually unlock the strongest weapons for competitive play right away

it's an easy tweak that doesn't fuck up competitive play at all because you can easily set up a hardcore mode where you back to spawning with no real guns

Edited by Zanno at 14:30 CDT, 6 July 2011

<< Comment #736 @ 04:10 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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u3a6

VOD's? i just hope they dont delete tox vs av3k because of 2GD?s comment.

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Cyn1c

The 2GD kick reminds me of these lines from a song:

"You ain't gotta like me, you're just mad coz I tell it how it is and you tell it how it might be"

MLG needs to face it. Most of their events have had a bucketload of technical issues related to Streams. As if someone watching the streams needs to be told how Day9 had to cast old and boring replays every now and then.

<< Comment #748 @ 04:41 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Dird

where does the vods page not show =/ jtv technical issue or theyve hidden them?

<< Comment #750 @ 04:49 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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incanu7

You can say what you want about 2gd, but he's dead on with his stance on CounterStrike:
Here

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<< Comment #752 @ 05:16 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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aiken

It''s impossible to have QL event without drama. Everyone should have used to it.

<< Comment #754 @ 05:22 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Lethe

are there any vods or i need to go through 700+ spoilers first?

<< Comment #758 @ 05:43 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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krutov

What happened to the VODs for all games? They were at http://sv.justin.tv/mlg_live/videos before. :(

<< Comment #764 @ 06:18 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Trance

Someone uploaded the 1st map of the Av3k vs toxjq game on YT.

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<< Comment #766 @ 06:26 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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hauer - Reply to #764

I love you!

<< Comment #767 @ 06:36 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #764

hall of fame material

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #764

thanks bro

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todimus - Reply to #764

ty, been looking for that.. and all i had to do was scroll through a couple of hundredmesr posts. fucking good game!

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therm - Reply to #764

teh aimz ;]

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13m3 - Reply to #764

crazy rails BUT avek would have tied the game if he switched to LG before firing that last rail. And maybe he would even win the game be4 overtime with a spawnfrag

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TosspoT

Re: 2GD

This will do one of two things, it'll either wake him up that his "2GD vs the world" attitude really doesn't fly or it'll only add weight to the cross that he bares on his back and give him more ammunition to his nobody does eSports right but me.

Still theres a first, he is the only commentator removed from casting ESL & MLG the biggest 2 organisations in western esports!

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<< Comment #776 @ 07:35 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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burgonya - Reply to #774

what was the reason to get kicked from esl?

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TosspoT - Reply to #776

I don't know the official reason/story only what the staff say.

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son1dow - Reply to #778

would you please tell (or PM) what the staff says?

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Dird - Reply to #778

didnt he leave to be the LoL PR guy?

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Grumlouze - Reply to #774

Well to be honest, I think he quit ESL when he accepted the position of esports manager for Bloodline Champions and he never really worked with MLG anyway right ? It was a no-prizemoney event which he was casting for free as a favor.

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Cloud - Reply to #774

2gd > u

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #783

2GD > World

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<< Comment #780 @ 07:47 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #774

afaik he LEFT ESL, he wasn't kicked out of it.

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InDepther - Reply to #774

that was bitter

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TosspoT - Reply to #781

Its not bitter, Jay is another George Best, he has the ability but he has no self control and his perception on things is quite simply fucked up.

You cannot say what he says, you cannot turn up late/drunk, you cannot piss off most of the people you work for. This is not rock and roll, he is not Liam Gallagher, the sooner he realises that the sooner he can realise his potential.

There is no bitterness there, I've said most of this to his face. He's digging his own grave that he might not be able to get out of, if you piss off all the people that might employ you then you're not doing your fanbase any favours!

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<< Comment #788 @ 08:20 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #786

god you got no clue... eventho i dont know him personally, all the "bad" things you mentioned are also reason why hes so great...

PS. Will you ban me here, aswell as like you did on crossfire, Allmighty God of ET?

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frame - Reply to #788

That was bitter

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<< Comment #797 @ 08:40 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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greykarn - Reply to #786

Of some reason I still think you are bitter. You are also describing something that isn't true - so I feel obliged to give ppl another perspective.

As I've been working with the eSports for some years, and lately as the eSports guy at DreamHack, I've had the pleasure to work together with James in many ways. I have never experienced James showing up late/drunk when doing any work for DreamHack or for other partners on-site (Levelup, ESL). Of course I cant talk for everyone. But Im not talking about 1 event here, but maybe 8-10 events. He have never been disrespectful to me or Ive never heard from anyone in our organisation or volonteur crew (over 500 ppl) that James have acted as an asshole. The feedback I got is totally opposite.

And his attitude is not: "nobody does eSports right but me" but "eSports can be better than this" and thats why James can be demanding and complaint about bad stuff, a cable is missing, something is not planned enough or sometimes: the whole concept is just bad from the beginning. It's a good ability to not lie and be positive about everything bad in eSports. Its to many "yes"-sayers in eSports, and too many people do anything for their manager/employer/organisation - and (almost always) without pay and for a IRC-voice, or sometimes (when you are a lucky free worker for 5 years), you get a wage worse then working for Mcdonalds. Both you and I know that eSports can be better than that..

Im not defending James behavior in the stream yesterday - but I dont think your murder of James character is correct. And if you have that experience, I have a totally different - and I think people in the ESR comments (that probably knows this) should be aware of the two sides.

Edited by greykarn at 08:44 CDT, 5 July 2011

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TosspoT - Reply to #797

After our Skype discussion (and after quite a few pm's from eSports people) here is something of an explanation as to my motives. My objective in this thread is not to kill James "2GD" Harding but to make him wake up to what he is costing himself.

There will be no 2GD if there is nobody there to hire him.

That 1 comment did not make the cast good or bad, it didn't need to be there. He can still be his expressive self that people love with just a hint of controlled self-censorship.

For those thinking this is a 1 way attack on him you are wrong, my George Best comment was in direct relation to his ability, he has huge amounts of ability, but Best is no Pele because he couldn't control himself.

I've sat at a table with Blizzard people and Tasteless, Tasteless drunk off his face telling the Blizzard people that they never cared about Starcraft, never gave a damn about the community etc etc - When it came to putting the microphone in front of his mouth, he knew who paid his bills.
At the end of the day they didn't take any offense to a die hard fan expressing himself to them, they've hired him year after year because of what comes out of his mouth when there's a microphone there.

Edited by TosspoT at 09:06 CDT, 5 July 2011

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Nukm - Reply to #801

well no matter what your intention are or if what you say is true, you are definitely throwing dirt here in public, not classy, not professional

Edited by Nukm at 09:10 CDT, 5 July 2011

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ffx - Reply to #803

Well he has a point. I fucking love 2gd's casting but sometimes he just crosses the line. Remember the time when he dissed slasher for literally nothing? He kept on ranting for like 5 min and even calipt told him to shut the fuck up. The same with nvc on dreamhack. I mean at first it was funny but seriously you just can't disrespect someone in front of a few thousand people for several minutes. At least I wouldn't stand it without saying a single word. He tried the same with zsx who thankfully put him in his place. He needs a guy like joe who kinda controls him otherwise it always ends bad.

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Nukm - Reply to #807

lost a lot of respect for 2gd because of things like that aswell. and sure tosspot might have a point, thats not what my comment was about.

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xoji - Reply to #803

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Toss is absolutely right. If he keeps on doing this kind of crap we won't hear him cast any more Quake games.

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Nukm - Reply to #823

how often do i have to spell it out?
i am not saying that he is wrong, not at all

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w0nk0 - Reply to #803

wait esr is suddenly classy and professional? xD

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faerie_ - Reply to #801

ujelly

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Anonymous (94.168.182.50) - Reply to #801

I completely agree with everything you're saying. Just an example, i was watching the dreamhack stream, then out of the blue he started some convo about how he likes young girls because they're tighter? yeah it was a joke but on on stream ffs.. quake doesn't need this shit

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<< Comment #810 @ 09:47 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #806

means you have an attention span of approximately 27seconds.

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Anonymous (60.228.89.125) - Reply to #806

whats wrong with talking about tight young vagina?

or wait let me guess, you cant relate..

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greykarn - Reply to #801

That describes your thoughts more - or I at least understand your criticism :)

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Anonymous (71.251.33.234) - Reply to #801

You hit it spot on.

2gd has serious character issues. He's been lucky to have someone like Joe casting with him a lot of the time as Joe has the maturity to keep 2gd in check.

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Memento_Mori ' - Reply to #786

You cannot say what he says, you cannot turn up late/drunk, you cannot piss off most of the people you work for.

I'm sure you are just listing bad things one is not supposed to do, and not implying he did those things, right?

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TosspoT - Reply to #808

I think George Best's actions are quite well documented.

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Memento_Mori ' - Reply to #809

Here you go, thank you.

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Dird - Reply to #786

what are you doing now? :o

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yank3 - Reply to #774

goes for 2gd and quake: "better die on your feet than live on your knees" (c) german nazi band

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incanu7 - Reply to #818

actually it's (c) Zapata

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p4r4 - Reply to #774

Now tell me please, why the hell you think that it's YOUR standard of doing a show is correct and 2GD's is not?
Why it can't be that 2GD is actually a model of a perfect showman and everyone else does it wrong?
I don't see ANYTHING that implies that casting must be overpolite, overrespectful, unemotional, uncritical, boring, etc. Maybe thousands of people before 2GD did that. But how can you say that they were right?
P.S. Knowing some ESR people I should clarify: these are just only my questions. Please note that I don't state any point of myself here or argue with anything, I'm just asking questions to understand the issue better.

Edited by p4r4 at 14:48 CDT, 5 July 2011

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TosspoT - Reply to #848

Realistically its just the same as when you go to work. Can you at work badmouth your boss with your boss listening? No (not if you want a promotion!) and the same goes with any other misdemeanor.
This is not TosspoT's way of casting because if you haven't noticed I haven't exactly done much casting in the past 2 years - its simply a case of general employment etiquette, the same inside and outside of eSports.

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p4r4 - Reply to #883

What if badmouthing your boss positively affects company's performance? I.e., let's imagine abstract situation that a trash talking fun commentator who can diss everything including his own boss has twice more viewers on his stream than normal etiquette-following guy?

Edited by p4r4 at 06:56 CDT, 6 July 2011

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TosspoT - Reply to #893

Interesting logic

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Dird - Reply to #848

why do you keep including "over"? Is it overly respectful to not insult slasher on stream for 5 minutes continuously or overly respectful to not insult nvc for however many minutes and then end it by stealing his hat and throwing it away (is he 12 years old?)?

it's about being respectful...not overly but not disrespectful either which he is a large amount of the time when a match isnt in play. someone should just mute him in between maps

Edited by Dird at 06:47 CDT, 7 July 2011

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p4r4 - Reply to #956

When one character in a movie kills another character, does it really mean that actor playing that characters hates the other actor so much that he wants to kill him?
Why people didn't become indignant when Linda Hamilton crushed Arnold Schwarzenegger with a press? It was much worse than simply stealing a hat.

Edited by p4r4 at 07:27 CDT, 7 July 2011

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Dird - Reply to #959

why are you talking about scripted movies. its similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7IHJ66wj9g where they were sacked. except its worse since the voicemail doesnt involve any physical invasions and they apologised after

edit: and 2bd is pretty much an idiot like russel brand too

Edited by Dird at 08:31 CDT, 7 July 2011

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p4r4 - Reply to #961

I am talking about things that are not really serious and done for the show and viewer's excitement. Scripted movies are just example, it doesn't have to be scripted, it doesn't have to be a movie.

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kg - Reply to #956

Why does he have to be respectful? Is being respectful a must for being a quake caster?

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Dird - Reply to #968

for being a caster? how about for being a decent human being? what is this american attitude brah

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kg - Reply to #975

I thought we were talking about casting and professionalism.

e: i didn't know you needed to be a "decent human being" to be a good caster

Edited by kg at 15:27 CDT, 7 July 2011

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Dird - Reply to #976

no but you need it to be likeable. as i said if they muted his mic when maps arent being played it would be fine for the most part. he just becomes a twat in between games/matches

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exp! - Reply to #774

TOSSPOT BEST CASTER EVER

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/rage quit - Reply to #774

Ahh who cares..2gd is still alfa and omega of casting quake..

<< Comment #777 @ 07:40 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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kevz

no VOD's yet?

missed out on the ctf cause it was getting tooooooooooo late :(

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Anonymous (92.235.32.114) - Reply to #777

CTF never happened

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kevz - Reply to #963

well im glad i didnt miss anything then

but sigh, been a while since ive seen a pro ctf match :<

<< Comment #787 @ 08:18 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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kg

..and this is why mainstream gaming sucks - they'll delete vods because of a joke.

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<< Comment #839 @ 13:41 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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kevz - Reply to #787

i hope ur joking ;p

still no vods? :<

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kg - Reply to #839

People said they were there and justin.tv usually records VODs by itself.

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Anonymous (95.49.63.94)

av3k vs HAL_9000 on cpm22 - that would be nice :D

<< Comment #800 @ 09:00 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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phate

kindergarten? ':D'

Edited by feijjj at 09:44 CDT, 5 July 2011

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hauer - Reply to #800

*kindergarten kthx

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Anonymous (95.49.63.94) - Reply to #800

dont piss yourself :D

<< Comment #813 @ 10:19 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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lewl

vods back up plzzz... nobody cares about your petty "e-Sports beef"

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Lethe

this is esr, keep in mind that most of the "people" here are gonna suck dicks of characters such as cooller or 2gd, no matter what they do.

2gd is an awesome caster, but that has nothing to do with him being insanely ego-inflated and unprofessional at times. when you fuck up, you fuck up, simple as that.

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p4r4 - Reply to #815

You all use word "professional", yet you don't understand a bit what it means.

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Lethe - Reply to #846

awesome comment, it's so meaningful i'm gonna do a huge reply to that any minute now.

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p4r4 - Reply to #887

Who is more professional, someone who does his job perfectly, or someome who frequently fails at tasks assigned to him?

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Lethe - Reply to #891

if you're asked to do a commentary for your fellow "friends", no matter what happens, you're not supposed to say something along the lines of "ah yeah, i forgot how american events suck, i'm used to dreamhack". that's lame and retarded. and yeah, the word you're looking for - it's not professional. having technical problems is something quake has had in different forms in over 90% of events.

and all of that after quake lost eswc and esl. it's not like there is much left in the first place, so why not spit on someone who dared make something quake related.

ego-inflated, stupid, and unprofessional.

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p4r4 - Reply to #894

But if you commentate in absolutely dull, boring, uninteresting way, isn't that unprofessional too?

Edited by p4r4 at 06:58 CDT, 6 July 2011

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Lethe - Reply to #895

i can't think of a worse comparison.

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p4r4 - Reply to #896

So, professional in your sense has nothing to do with how good you are performing at your job? I.e. I can be a "professional" car mechanic and just break your car even more instead of fixing it and you will say, hey thank you, you're so professional?

Edited by p4r4 at 07:01 CDT, 6 July 2011

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Lethe - Reply to #897

again, terrible comparison.

bad singers are bad singers, you're not forced to listen to them. commentary is just commentary, there's no damage done to whoever no matter how bad you are. you're watching the game. on the other hand, insulting an organization who you're casting for is lame, can do damage, and it's unprofessional.

2gd accepted the invitation, he could have declined, and someone else could be there, which would mean we would be able to watch vods now.

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p4r4 - Reply to #898

But please answer my simplest question: does professionalism has anything to do with how good you're doing your job?

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Lethe - Reply to #899

it's IRRELEVANT cause

1) technical problems are common
2) i don't even know what that fat guy and his commentary skills has to do with 2gd talking crap about MLG

do you?

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p4r4 - Reply to #900

It's relevant because you used the word "professional" and unless we agree on what it means, there cannot be any sensible conversation.
Does professionalism has anything to do with how good you're doing your job?

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Lethe - Reply to #902

professional =/= talking crap about the organization who asked you to do commentary @ their show.

the end.

you can feel free to continue with the offtopic

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kg - Reply to #903

Can you comprehend what he wrote?

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #902

Yes, professionalism does have to do with how good you do your job (and insulting the host organization is not "doing a good job"), and it also has to do with your attitude, and 2gd's remarks outside of quake were very unprofessional. So in answer to your question, yes professionalism has to do with how good you are at doing your job, and making insults to the host on live streams (that you should know are likely to get you kicked) is NOT doing a good job, therefor unprofessional. I understand that you are a 2gd d-rider and it probably makes him immune to in your eyes to doing any wrong, and I also understand and agree that he is a fantastic caster when he actually speaks about quake and not sitting around distastefully disrespecting his co-casters or the organizers. It just sucks that he feels compelled to be a total dick on live streams, and WE are the ones who end up paying for it. Actions have consequences.

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p4r4 - Reply to #912

Imagine a hypothetical situation that his disrespectful comments actually make him very popular among viewers (i.e. let's say that people like dramas and scandals, etc) and he gathers more viewers than other commentators and thus makes more money for MLG. Will that be considered as him doing his job good or bad?

Edited by p4r4 at 09:10 CDT, 6 July 2011

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pTOLEmy - Reply to #914

You are such an idiot. Words cannot describe your stupidness.

My god, why do I visit site :|

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p4r4 - Reply to #918

Thanks for your input.
Of course, humbly asking a question to understand better who is really right in this situation is completely idiotic, so stupid of me to do that.

Edited by p4r4 at 11:30 CDT, 6 July 2011

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kg - Reply to #918

Can you comprehend what he wrote?

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pTOLEmy - Reply to #929

comprehend what? Do you have job besides visiting esreality? I doubt it. Otherwise you wouldn't ask that stupid shit.

What if MLG showed big pile of shit instead of cooller vs rapha and it would attract 10k more viewers than the actual game itself. What would MLG do?

gtfo pls :/

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kg - Reply to #936

In the interest of a person who wants to do his research thoroughly, we should first agree on a definition for the things we are talking about. You act as if it's something everybody knows, and that is true to a certain extent, but to have a discussion about something as vague as professionalism requires a definition first.

Too bad that pointing out counter-examples to certain definitions (and exploring different hypotheses) just provokes a string of insults from you.

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baneman - Reply to #897

Outside of sports, "professional" means that you perform your job with maturity and focus. At the same time, you would not describe an incompetent but focused individual as "professional." So you could say that when you describe someone as professional, competence is a given.

2gd could very well be the best caster the world, and at the same time be completely unprofessional.

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13m3 - Reply to #941

+ for the last sentence

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p4r4 - Reply to #941

So if competence is required to be professional, then some other people who were casting QL after 2GD was kicked, were unprofessional too. Why then all the hate is directed towards 2GD and not towards other unprofessional casters?

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baneman - Reply to #944

You're right, my explanation was off. They are separate things - professional/amateur, in contrast to "acting professional/unprofessional." The other casters can be bad but still conduct themselves in a professional manner.

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p4r4 - Reply to #967

Well, now I can agree that "acting unprofessional" is a term that is applicable to 2GD, because it specifically refers to his behaviour. Though it would be much less confusing to call it simply "bad mannered".

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Cloud - Reply to #815

rofl
"this is esr, keep in mind that most of the "people" here are gonna suck dicks of characters such as cooller or 2gd, no matter what they do."

like u do?

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yank3

the mlg should step up a little to get the "professional" recognition by the audience which they are claiming to have.

they had an absolute unappropriate mainhost, streamquality below zero, nada coordination if something goes wrong, disrespect of the players (did this jp guy said something about who won after the bsod match?nope lol)

ye, i saw the fancy suit, the headset and the flatcreen with mlg logo, dealbreaker for the most i guess

in the end making a big story out of an oneliner of 2gd which everyone else besides the admin forgets about after 10s just to maintain "professionalism" and "seriousness" is incredible retarded by the "staff".

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esdf '

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lijdp6FYw4Y 2gd & TLO :DDDDDD

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torfteufel - Reply to #820

its like feeling he should get his british citizenship removed for being so offensive to britain (how dare he!)
im sure all you non-humor-creatures would have gone mobbing the jester performing at the kings place (omg hes doing it right in front of the king!).

it all comes down to esports organisations having a professionality complex 2gd hapened to hit at its sweet spot.
its fun and games ppl! if you take the fun away from games what are you left with?

go be a bloody bank officer and do seeerious buisness bigheaded egomaniacs.

this is how you pay back a caster of this quality doing you a favor in working for you FOR FREE on short notice?

get off your posh horses already

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iavoal - Reply to #829

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEcXp8_I8CY&feature=related

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Anonymous (77.253.44.36) - Reply to #820

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQvTyvVX_ys

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torfteufel

humor, how does it work?

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Venim

So did they play CTF or not?

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Anonymous (71.251.33.234)

2gd had it coming to him. Can't stand his attitude.

Someone needs to tell him that you're here to do a job and that's casting, and any narcissism needs to be left at the door.

He's not even that great of a caster. I much prefer Joe + czm or Joe + calipt.

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jamalz - Reply to #834

log in or fuck off

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dlx - Reply to #834

what job? did they pay him for that? no? so stfu!

and where is the bus with all the people who are interessted in what kind of casting you prefer?

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #834

You calling it "narcissism" speaks volumes about yourself -- you even have a grasp of that word?
2GD doesn't constantly talk about himself or his achievements (i.e., the definition of your word choice) -- he's a gadfly, somewhat mischievous ql geek(a very good thing for a ql caster given his solid depth of in-game knowledge). He likes to cause a small dose of "trouble," then rub that around a little so that everyone's on their toes but laughing.

p.s. any post on this thread about 2GD should necessarily include the phrase "thank you for your volunteer efforts" somewhere.

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Edited by Nukm at 13:05 CDT, 5 July 2011

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Anonymous (71.251.33.234) - Reply to #830

You can't make this stuff up.

It just strikes me as amazing how people like rapha don't have one ounce of trash talk in their body while someone like 2gd runs his mouth constantly.

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jamalz - Reply to #833

fucking hilarious though ;D

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FienD - Reply to #833

He does, he just censors himself and remains professional.

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Anonymous (70.26.38.106) - Reply to #833

Wow Anonymous, relax dude. 2GD was just being cheeky, which is the norm for British humor. No need to get your knickers in a knot, bro.

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duumed - Reply to #830

:D

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kg - Reply to #830

:DDDDDD

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ffx - Reply to #830

lmao :d:D

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xoji - Reply to #830

bahahaha

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zar4 - Reply to #830

rofl epic

<< Comment #836 @ 13:32 CDT, 5 July 2011 >>

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rizzah

who gives a fuck srs, its just banter.. mind=blown

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FishStix

edit: oops, apparently MLG isn't sharing VODs right now

Edited by FishStix at 14:37 CDT, 5 July 2011

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jamalz - Reply to #842

Great casting yesterday fish, knew u had it in you. If you keep yourself calm and don't stutter on words/phrases you might become the american 'Joe' for quakelive. You can partner up with a semi - pro (looks at dkt) and just ask him questions and do the play by play.

Your casting was pretty damn good.

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koekie - Reply to #842

Yeah, thanks for casting!

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ted

Would someone care to explain the joke he made and why it was (supposed to be?) funny...something about MLG Dallas?

Edited by ted at 16:15 CDT, 5 July 2011

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stunt.us - Reply to #857

i gave u the link yesterday fucking twattt

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luanswan2002

Am I missing something here? It's now 22:00 BST and Avek and Tox are meant to be playing?

Edited by luanswan2002 at 16:26 CDT, 5 July 2011

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incanu7 - Reply to #860

That was yesterday brah. check any of the 859 posts above you.

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ChillOut

If I was in 2GD's position I would be pretty annoyed by the 2minutes of dead air. And I would've expressed some sort of sympathy to the viewers when I got back on. So now just add some cheeky brittish humor and bam you get exactly what 2GD says.

So I don't understand why people focus on the negativeness of 2GD's remarks. Opposed to drawing out all this unnecessary drama, MLG and 2GD could have handled this situation a lot better. :(

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Cloud - Reply to #864

they're americans.

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Venim - Reply to #864

Looking at twitter, I think they (2gd and the CEO of MLG) have reconciled a bit at least.

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Oh_Snaps! - Reply to #864

I disagree, he can complain about Skype (which had nothing to do with MLG), but what he said just kind of made me cringe .. like "I hope MLG doesn't hear that." That kind of ruined it for me because it was in the back of my mind throughout, thankfully the map ending more than made up for it. If a caster makes such comments that make the viewers uncomfortable, he/she is failing at the job IMO.

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faerie_ - Reply to #870

congratulations, you're part of the 3% of retards that this comment made uncomfortable.

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #864

I invite someone over to dinner at my house, he disrespects my family, I kick him out. Understandable, yes? Why is his unprofessional behavior so acceptable to your blind 2gd followers. He's a great caster, yeah, but his talent aside, he can be a complete dick sometimes (to his fellow co-casters, to the host organizations...) and actions have consequences. There's no need for comments like that from ANYONE, and it's unfortunate because WE are the ones that end up paying for things like that (no 2gd casting, no vods). Stop blaming everyone else for 2gd saying inappropriate things on someone else's live stream. Good caster, but he's obviously in the wrong.

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Lave - Reply to #911

he disrespects your family as a little joke between friends - you kick him out because your maturing process stopped at the age of 14 or your iq is to low to comprehend the meaning of "sarcasm" or "irony" aswell as every other part of complex human communication.

enraging when you get trolled is considered immature - thats exactly what MLG did (best thing that "jp mcdaniel" guy of mlg could've done when he showed his face at the end of map1 would've been to flame back at 2gd right away. but i guess that was beyond his potential after all)

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Naghokez - Reply to #911

Holy shit, what a terrible comparison. If you invite someone over to dinner at your house, you're providing him with free food. In this case, 2GD is the one providing the MLG with free service (his casting), not the other way around. Way to completely misrepresent the situation.

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vedic - Reply to #940

Aye. This is more like inviting a friend over to fix your computer, providing shitty working conditions for him, and then throwing him out when he makes a subtle jab at it.

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #942

hahah lol, yup.

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Cloud

i like how whoever the fuck is stil censorin my posts, is stil censorin them far below par of what everybody else is saying on ESR in general.

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outspoken

omg.

any1 gonna post some sorta update on VOD's situation anytime soon ffs?

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filo

... i missed fucking everything...cuz my modem at home got fryed... now i appreciate my job even more. :)

I just wanna say i prefer watching 2gd for his entertaining ways, then some1 like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qktpA02TxlA

and i do not understand why some of US casters are trying to be like that. That is not professional ... that is just boring.

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Normalised - Reply to #873

that made me go and watch bergkamps goal again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs

genius.

Edited by Normalised at 04:16 CDT, 6 July 2011

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for3cas7 - Reply to #885

THERE IS BEAR CUM! THERE IS BEAR CUM! THERE IS BEAR CUM! THERE IS BEAR CUM!

<3 that goal. It's just truly Epic!!!

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dlx

ok here is the story.

players werent allowed to record demos, so ppl whatch the vods instead of demos (there is no MLG logo and ads and shit). Now vods are deleted because of some 10 sec stupid comment from 2GD.

You punished 2GD for his comment, so why do you MLG punish the community by deleting all the vods?! WTF?!

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kK_Storm - Reply to #880

You sure it's like that? ...

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dlx - Reply to #882

avek said it to me, unfortunatly i have no logs :|

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zeun_ - Reply to #880

i think this calls for a riot.

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hauer - Reply to #886

Can't people spam the forums or tweet Sundance 24/7? o_o

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koekie - Reply to #880

Is this true?
I can't see VODs for the other games either though.

edit: I remember seeing a lot of people on the server, surely one of them must have recorded the demos :/

Edited by koekie at 06:01 CDT, 6 July 2011

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cha0z_ - Reply to #888

Players too, as like mlg go to their home to make sure they will not record...

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unihumi - Reply to #880

SOMEBODY CALL ANONYMOUS!

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pks - Reply to #880

f...a..i..l
a..a
i........i
l...........l

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FishStix - Reply to #880

incorrect, VODs are coming soon and will be available at MLG.tv

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hauer - Reply to #935

How long can it take? MLG are monkeys playing with electricity.

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dlx - Reply to #935

MLG should say this 3 month later, ppl are interested in 3 month old vods. where is the problem to say: "hey vods coming next week, stay tuned"?

<< Comment #901 @ 07:09 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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Joe

2GD, what a spastic....

LOVE YOU MATE!

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<< Comment #904 @ 07:14 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #901

We all love him!

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SEAN P

I have the VODS for toxjq/avek and avek/cypher. My upload speed isn't so great, but I'll try and have them up sometime tonight or tomorrow if nobody else does it by then.

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<< Comment #923 @ 11:28 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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M05 - Reply to #921

i am replying to this so you can reply to me when they are up with a link :) kind regards

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SEAN P - Reply to #923

Toxjq v Avek

Avek v Cypher

@whoever asked - I don't have demos, I just managed to download the vod from justin.tv before mlg deleted I guess?

I'd embed if I knew how.. maybe somebody can fix that for me.

Edited by Dird at 06:55 CDT, 7 July 2011

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<< Comment #931 @ 14:08 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #921

consider these pluses as just prepaid expenses, m8!

<< Comment #937 @ 20:06 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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hauer - Reply to #921

Make it happen!

<< Comment #946 @ 03:59 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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Xen_Crypt - Reply to #921

maybe demos too? :D

<< Comment #949 @ 04:27 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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GEKKO- - Reply to #921

Have you uploaded them yet?

<< Comment #951 @ 05:12 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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SEAN P - Reply to #949

yes, but apparently my posts need to be approved by an admin.

Edited by SEAN P at 09:11 CDT, 7 July 2011

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Dird - Reply to #951

did you get the US vids?

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SEAN P - Reply to #957

No, and I missed them live too. I was really looking forward to rapha and zero4 on t4.

<< Comment #926 @ 11:56 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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dAND3h

If MLG was a man, he would be gay

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<< Comment #962 @ 08:30 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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hauer - Reply to #926

MLG is a dyke. It's a fact that lesbians don't have a sense of humour.

<< Comment #933 @ 14:53 CDT, 6 July 2011 >>

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O111

So did MLG have a reason to boot 2GD? Maybe.
But it was an unprofessional and a rather extreme call from their behalf, that's sure as hell. Why stoop down to the level of discussion when you can just press a button and be done with the problem? No need to care about the effect such an action might have on the event itself!

Personally I'm hard pressed to put much blame on 2GD. However this is a different matter if 2GD was actually briefed about the expectations/guidelines/rules MLG has for their casters. If he wasn't then the whole thing was just a matter of MLG not knowing what to expect from 2GD and vice versa, combined with an overreaction by the organization.

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Marvelous

just asked avek and he confirmed that there was no restriction on demo recording or something of that sort >.>

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filo

will there even be a ctf live stream? ... (i wouldnt dare say with casters ... mlg prolly gets the hibbyjibbys when they hear the word caster.)

p.s.: i prolly already missed it or smthing.

Edited by filo at 12:03 CDT, 7 July 2011

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Trance - Reply to #970

only 3 days late, np brah.

<< Comment #971 @ 13:46 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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xou

ql vod links ?

<< Comment #972 @ 14:10 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #971

^this :(

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<< Comment #979 @ 17:31 CDT, 7 July 2011 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #971

^this :( n°2

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SEAN P - Reply to #971

I posted a couple a few posts above yours.

<< Comment #982 @ 18:19 CDT, 8 July 2011 >>

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Anonymous (213.112.239.228)

2gd i love u

<< Comment #984 @ 09:59 CDT, 9 July 2011 >>

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kK_Storm

So MLG finally released VODs of quake matches:

zero4 vs rapha (somehow its starts from 3rd map which is toxicity) - http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/video/mlg-vid...ive-replay

cypher vs av3k - http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/video/mlg-vid...ive-replay

And yes, the quality is crap. Youtube VODs which SEAN P posted are better.

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RonC - Reply to #984

ty for the links. anyway to save these MLG VOD's? my flash downloader doesn't seem to detect it. probably rtmp :(

Edited by crc at 19:58 CDT, 9 July 2011

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Are demos going to be released? Why bother with these crappy vods?

Edited by hmc at 16:10 CDT, 9 July 2011