i love cpm but i dont think this would work as well.

they'd put a clock next to monitor, bleh.

yes, but lets pretend for a moment that nobody would do such a horrible thing!

would it work in QL?

You'll just have people practicing timing in a different way. I only time mega for example, the rest I do by feeling. I'm never off by more than 3 seconds. (Although with feeling you kinda have to be the one picking up the armours, with the clocks you can just carry on adding even when you aren't around.)

It may even back fire and make people even more defensive. How many agressive pushes depend on a critical item pickup and then you go in?

The armour system is also different in CPM, i.e. the armour doesn't go down. So once you get an armour you just concentrate on stopping the other guy from getting armour/items/weapons, or killing him.

You have som good points, especially regarding the armor system being what it is in QL....

From my own pov I was thinking along the lines of stop "balancing" the weapons for a while and try something completely different, like for instance trying out a clock that only displays minutes.

Would be fun to try out though...

surely that'd be considered cheating on a lan...

ops, I forgot about these 0,000001% that are played offline, sorry,

i don't watch any online duel tournaments really.. can't rate players like cypher on 80ping online duel tourney :D

but u can rate on his lan fail

he's let me down, first nocits.. now cypher.. only funnyb left to be the supreme champ.

I'm not really for or against the idea but you can't make gameplay decisions based on the fact that people might cheat. I mean I'm sure tons of people use vent or something to play a sound file with 2 mins of dead air and then a countdown to time quad but it doesn't mean we should try to combat that by making quad random or something.

im sure not one team does that.

Online? You've got to be kidding. Some people don't even think it's cheating.

are you serious :D?

A timer for quad is about as useless as it gets as quad is the item that's easiest to time. It is very unlikely someone actually took the effort to create a sound file, write a script that automaticly plays it when quad is picked up and then convinced his team to use that... please D:

What? Please use your brain. Quad was an example and only 1 person actually has to do it. It can be used with any item and DOES happen. I've had conversations with people in the past who do it but don't consider it cheating

how's cpm clock?

it blocks the seconds and only shows the minutes

14:xx

I would love it cos I hate timing, prefer to go by instinct :)

your problem if you cant figure out the clock -_-

figure out? I just don't like to have to use it, I prefer to have my head completely in the game and the moment, not be distracted by looking at the time.

you said what I said, not enough capacity :p

1-5-1-5
2-6-2-6
3-8-3-8
4-9-4-9
5-0-5-0

+20
+30

Sorted

I can time, I just don't particularly want to. It's not part of the fun... for me, I guess some people might enjoy it.

I just see "to the second" timing in duel as a necessary evil only when you want to compete seriously, wouldn't miss it at all if it was gone.

NO NO NO NO PLZ NO

I would love it cos I hate timing, prefer to go by instinct :)

I would love it cos I hate timing, prefer to go by instinct :)

I would love it cos I can't time for shit anyway :)

it's stupid and probably lower skilldisplay for spectators slightly if you cant time to exact second anymore.

It would be something fun to try out at least. Perhaps as a devpick? Either way, feel free to voice your opinion!

no, here is how you should have ended the post:
Either way, feel free to just shut up if you dont have anything new a topic that has already been discussed to death.

Are you saying this has been discussed already? If it has then i´m sorry.

edit: nevermind, misread your post

Yh, more random factors please ! Broken starting spawns and sound just isnt enough.

To all of you who say you time by instinct for the most part, have you ever tried using both clock and instinct?
It works great, at least if you have a big enough clock close to your crosshair :-)

Erm, I have a better idea!

How about fucking kick ArQons ballz untill he implements fucking CPMA in to QL (and make it public-mode)?! This would solve all problems and I could quit this fucking lame vql and start playing some really skillful mode (only my opinion must not be your opinion), how does this sound?

I bet the people who prefer to go by 'instinct' just find proper timing too difficult. I once played a guy who flat out refused to believe it was possible to time two items at once while playing.

I think taking things like the clock out of QL would be a bad idea. What makes QL fun is that its more of an intelligent game to play. Taking timing out of it will just dumb things down. This would just make it more about combat rather than playing smarter.

Quake is supposed to be about combat

amphi is the epitome of quake amirite