lolwut
is this a troll attempt?

no

the finals will be held in Kiev and I hope for a great event with great casters - like last years European final - click the link

what i meant was the horrible seeding, i feel like being trolled by ESL :D
i mean, how can you put zsx and noctis above spart1e and av3k? i think longterm-wise, the last two are superior, and even if they aren't in their top shape at the moment, i still think they deserve a top seed. anyway, let's hope for a nice event where QL won't be down (lololol)

seeds are based on the group results

you look so sexy with this flag

spart1e? plz....hes placed shit apart from one quakecon like 15 years ago (or a length time that equally means a high seed based on it would be a joke)

"the finals will be held in Kiev"

do u know date?

january 20th-23rd

http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/quake-live/a...ite=4.html

so long to wait :[

Lack of stermy makes it quite a bit less interesting.

this

[+] for stepping up and writing the news t1e

I wasn't so confident with the formatting and grammar, so I kept it short...

was fine but next time include full stops.

A:
1. strenx
2. av3k
3. k1llsen

B:
1. cypher
2. cooller
3. noctis (but go gohlink \o/)

go GoH, gaga jet oH lady.

1 av3k
2 strenx
3 K1llsen


1 Cooller
2 Cypher
3 noctis / fazz

cooller first? Yeah, it's been some time since that last happened :g

I will never stop believing in Cooller

plus everybody's invited to dream together

i believe dm13 was a fluke earlier...and ill never stop believing it :D

I'm sure it was :D

commendable effort - almost good

could you please remind me what maps will be played at IEM ?

fazz finally have some luck in avoiding the aim whores.

on a side hardware note:

a)there're non-120hz LCD screens in Kiev, aim whores wont succeed ;S
b) there's USB 3.0 and ppl have problems adjusting usb rate(dunno if it's rly a problem, got usb2.0), be ready
c) Cooller is waiting for his abyssus to arrive: says he cant be arsed to set wmo on win7 every time + mouz constantly pushing him to use razer peripherals. He's also switching to other pad, prolly megasoma(which is weird concidering his base non-accel sens is already lower than strenx' )

does your nick mean "hateme?" if so, i just figured that out. i took the time to read your logogram invested nickname.

does your nick mean "issue"?

no its the sound you make when you sneeze.

Bless you.

*bleshju

*bleschju

Congratulations Sgt. Kevin Mischker, you've been promoted to level #2 internet reading squad

It was about time!

got any information on what monitor model they have there?

Asus VH226H afaik
You could clarify from shane since he has been at summer asus

I will got there to make some cool report and have a drink with noctis

Just need agent and it will be one big happy family!

No need Agent, need kook. Last time kook won agent 21:1. I hope kook will do good in 2011. I will support him, and help him with many things. I want to invite him in St-Petersburg. I can provide free internet for him and help with work. He live in central Russia in very small town, if he leave his town for megapolis like Moscow or St-Petersburg, he can find a good job here and play QL on a PRO level. He is most talented russian quaker at the moment. And he is't not 24/7 geek.

I was kdding :P
Because we all know how much you love agent.

I know it was a joke. I don't have anything against agent, I do not hate him. I just despise illiterate ppl.

then you must really love alchemist03.

btw, did she die?

who?

alchemist03

been stuff on the news latley about internet grooming

i know u wanna smash his face irl man )))

his base non accel sens is the same ( approx 50cm give or take a difference so small nobody would notice )

Uhhh, I want to say #3 is bullshit because from what I've seen at LAN, and from his Facebook, he just plugs in his WMO and plays.

you'll see
he switched to 500hz "lately"(and I suppose before this summer, so dunno what you've seen at lan :/) and liked it

because 125hz wmo is terrible

after 10 yrs with standard settings?!

yes

after 20 yrs with standard settings?!

yes

Doesn't the Abyssus only do 125 or 1000?

Will there be an explosion if Cooller goes to 1000hz?

only if he goes over 9000hz, obv

It's over 9000

I wonder if he actually tried Abyssus before making that decision... It's a completely weird mouse that is useful only for a small handful of players.

i really like abyssus, it does look weired but it does feel good on the hand!

Well, the liftoff distance is enormous. I usually lift my mouse very little (actually I simply tilt mouse a bit, so it still glides on surface on one side, but the sensor is lifted off), and I could never get used to Abyssus on a lot of mouse pads I've tried. For me it only works okay-ish on bare surfaces like wooden table, but then I get lots of jitter in unpredictable places, and cursor often jumps somewhere suddenly.
To use it, for example, on Razer Goliathus, I had to lift it off somewhere up to the ceiling and then throw it back at new place on mouse pad, I've rarely seen players with such mouse movement style.

i used it on roccat sota, razer goliathus speed and steelseried 4D, it doest jitter in any of those pads, to get rid of high lod just put some transparent tape over the mouse sensor hole....

atm he have so bad shape thats its the best moment to change mouse, he wont lose much but mb also win some extra $ from sponsors

cumpetition

Cypher gonna pussy everyone with a shaft.

sadly enough he is imho the only one that would even be able to outaim people with 30hz tfts.

yeah he never gave a shit about screens, watch asus summer games which happened at the same place, that's ridiculous >_>

Group A is $$$

B kinda predictable

They seriously shouldn't have gayed stermy. How the fuck is he going to get into global finals too?

This is retarded.

The whole of fucking italy has isp problems, that's not even his fault.

GoHlink -> Stermy

MAKE. IT. HAPPEN.

How the fuck is he going to get into global finals too?

He can't, simple as that.

:(

Shit, where are we gonna find another 5-8th place finisher? :(

jk i love stermy

Boo hoo, he was too inconsistent to win anyways.

What I dislike about stermy is that whenever he loses he always whines and says he was uncomfortable with the montior/desk/chair/temperature/location/weather blah blah blah, he can never admit defeat.

Not to mention I have never ever ever heard him say that he got enough practice. Every single interview he gives, he says that he did not get enough practice. OH I WAS BUSY DID NOT GET PRACTICE PITY ME!

He's not the only one who does these kinds of things, half the QL players pretend they didnt get enough practice or that the monitors is screwed up or something, a good player overcomes any obstacle. If you can't, you're not good.

"whenever he loses he always whines"

thats what all ppl do, 1 less the other more

hello rapha

I remember him saying he practiced a lot at least once. Before last years world final I think.

he was perpared for quakecon 2009 too

Seriously bring back stermy, not his fault that italian internet was shit for that period...

welll... since it is quite likely someone is going to drop out sooner or later i hope that spot would be given to stermy then :x

someone should make some esr bets, cooller and avek throwing a few games this time round or not?

i'd put 1:1,5 on cooller since he repeated history dating back to 2002, and 1:1,9 to avek cause it's avek.

edit: oh and also open a bet on id fucking up with lan servers.

would bet against id for 1:1 ;)

thats 1:1.5 and 1:1.9

2ez for cypher =]

There's no rapha to crush cypher's hopes of winning this time.

tbh, no1 can match cypher :) that game which rapha won at dh was cyphers very bad day. The next day rapha didnt even manage to come in top4? Besides, most of pros beat rapha while cypher is 'unbeatable' at big events :P

yeye, I'm big cyphers fan, kisses for him =*

He's been more dominant than rapha, but k1llsen beat him, dahang beat him, and av3k has beaten him.

Both cooller and av3k are capable of beating him. Strenx and k1llsen have a small but possible chance.

I'll make this prediction, cooller beats him in this tournament. Cooller has lost every match, sure, but there has not been a single match that wasn't close - it's only a matter of time before the die rolls in his favor.

most of pros beat rapha

He always relies on someone else doing the job, because he can’t himself

If unbeatable means the ability to own 2nd-level players, thats very true. no doubt cypher excels at that.

iem euro, very tough win over avek
dh summer, lost to avek
qcon2k10, very tough win over cooller
beat it, lost to rapha EVEN WITH ONE AUTO-WIN MAP
dh, didnt even meet avek or rapha or cooller


meanwhile rapha is on top of the list of "owning 1st-level players"
beating cypher, avek, cooller over and over again
every tounament he wins, at least he beats one of them
two of them at beat-it, let alone all three of them at cebit

"bad day" as an excuse? not that good
how come he always plays crucial matches on bad days? while he was unbeatable vs 2nd-level players

cypher is a consistent top player
he wins matches that hes supposed to win, he lost to people who hes supposed to lose against
he does not allow up sets, and he does not create miracles, not like avek, not like rapha

6/10

k1llsen vs cypher :=)

Outaimed trololo

yea I did not think from this angle before but this is going to prevent stermy from attending global finals, thats just retarded, please bring stermy back.

GOGO fazz, madix & zsx <3

cooller plays with 500hz as well -_- he played some guys on dreamhack with 125 though because rapha messed up the registry and some mouse settings [apprently :D]

rapha always 5 steps ahead, rigging the shit out of the machines to take down the competition :)

He's probably the mastermind behind italys isp problems too all to get rid of stermy, rapha must be stopped.

needs stermy. and stermy tv. and matteo.

Last night I had a nightmare with strenx, he won me in very close match on sudden death, he made sick lg frag with last seconds...

P.S. Go Av3k!!!

I'm increasingly confused about this tox1c character. Is he the Swedish toxic or a completely different person? If he's different, what happens if the Swedish toxic returns? Two toxics is a little bit too much toxicity, is it not?

Our diplomats are children... here's one for Sweden: http://www.wikileaks.ch/cable/2009/06/09STOCKHOLM355.html

GTFO

bad that after this car accident evil is not active as he was in the past, would be great to see him there...imo he's got a talent.

What happened ?
Already wondered why evil dotn play anymore.

he's broken a collarbone and has a light concussion of the brain in august

Lower Seed
av3k
...

lol

I lol'd too :D

He's in bad shape this year, can't just base it on past accomplishments.

he placed second in his group. That is all there is to it.

A: av3k, strenx, killsen
B: cypha, cooller, ???

So if k1llsen gets third in the group, he steals someone else's spot? huh?

I assume 4th of each group will play for the last spot in this case.

That's not what the news post implies.

Think really hard about it.

You tell me.

"Top 6 without k1llsen" is 5 players if k1llsen belongs to the top 6 and 6 players if he doesn't.

I don't think you should base it on interpreting this news post, since t1e isn't part of the ESL.

I know, but since I don't wanna search the esl site for hours, I asked if someone has already figured out what happens when k1llsen finishes top 6.

Actually, it's kinda weird that he even particpates, given that he already has a spot. The only plausible explanation that comes to mind is that it's for his seeding.

the most likely explanation for k1llsen's participation is that there is prize money and also that the ESL wants to make it attractive for spectators and sponsors so removing a top contender just like that isn't a smart idea. (yeah, I know it sucks with stermy, but he had like 37 penalty points and the rules say players get removed with 20 and more)

Also, there are 6 European slots for final on top of k1llsen's gamescom slot. My guess is that in the likely case that k1llsen makes it to the playoffs, they will have a decider match between the two 4th placed players of the group.
Another option would be to have another small online tournament for the slot afterwards. Main reason for that wold be to give stermy another chance.

But as I said, I'm just guessing.

the most likely explanation for k1llsen's participation is that there is prize money and also that the ESL wants to make it attractive for spectators and sponsors so removing a top contender just like that isn't a smart idea.

To me, this sounds wrong. You either invite people to a tournament for their accomplishments OR you make them play a qualifier. Doing both is just weird, i can't think of any other sport where this would be the case.

huh?

killsen qualified through the groupstage, what are you on about
and yes, im quite certain if killsen gets top6, the last spot will be played out by the 4th placers (if someone is tied for 4th i guess they have to do a bit more)

sure, the group stage was a qualifier for IEM europe and IEM europe is a qualifier for the global final.

it feels wrong that he has to play both qualifiers, because he has already been given a spot for the global final.

sure, there's prize money involved for IEM europe so it would be unfair to exclude him, but i still can't think of something like that (playing in a qualifier for a superior tournament although you are already qualified for the latter) happening in "real" sports.

The whole system seems flawed.

Dude that is not a qualifier, where do you see the word qualifier? These are the european championships.

Things like that happen in real sports ALL THE TIME. How do you think people qualify for stuff like the olympic games in most of the sports? They have to place well during the world cups throughout the season. Noone gets denied because he is already qualified that doesnt make any sense wtf?

What's your fucking point anyway, thats about the most useless whine I have ever seen on this site :D

Dude that is not a qualifier, where do you see the word qualifier?

Top 6 (excluding k1llsen who already secured a spot by winning the Global Challenge of Gamescom) will qualify for the Global Final later in 2011.

How do you think people qualify for stuff like the olympic games in most of the sports? They have to place well during the world cups throughout the season. Noone gets denied because he is already qualified that doesnt make any sense wtf?

I didn't get that part. A fair comparison would be if the winner in the olympic games would get an invite to the next olympic games but would still have to go through the qualification process.
Does this happen?

What's your fucking point anyway, thats about the most useless whine I have ever seen on this site :D

see above. It's not a whine, the system just feels weird to me.
edit: I think #106 explains it.

the system is not weird.

Just see it as three different events:

First gamescom and then the European finals are both events of their own. (Just like the Australian and American tournaments)
Besides that they also both give the opportunity to secure a slot for the World finals, which is also an event of it's own.
The only other thing that seems to be confusing you, is that it is not possible to secure two spots for the world finals.

Ah, I didn't realize that the gamescom global challenge is qualitatively different from the IEM global final.

is the bundsliga consideres a qualifier for championsleague?
system must be flawed

"I didn't get that part. A fair comparison would be if the winner in the olympic games would get an invite to the next olympic games but would still have to go through the qualification process."

No, it wouldn't, the world cups are standalone competitions that also play a role in the qualification process. Also see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DFB-Pokal#Intern...lification

Exactly the same thing.

prize money as well, would be very unfair to not let him play for that

yes.

that's petty much what I wrote in my first sentence ;)

i see, i kind of just scanned over the replies :P

Why shouldn't he practice for the most important title in europe? Not to mention the prize money -.-
Try to use u're brain lazy fuck

u're brain

yeah bad mistake -.-

Still you are moronic because you don't get the system. If he had dropped out of the group stages like stermy did he wouldn't have been able to attend iem europe but due to his gamescom win he could have participated in the iem finals anyway. Got that?

Now that's a valid point. I haven't thought about it this way, thanks. Have a plus.

Bring back stermy -.-

bring back 2gd and joe

Meh, i prefer to have the pro's commentating tbh, but having stermy not be able to attend potentially two lan events because of bad italian internet which was out of his control, that's absolutely fucking bullshit..

the news said that he didn't communicate with the esl admins: I mean he could have played his games from dreamhack like cypher did in kiev. Actually as long as you don't know what happened you shouldn't blame only the esl.

Maybe he was too tired or something at DH since he had just played in the tournament idk, but still he should be given a chance imo

they gave him "a chance" for a pretty long time.

Can you go further in detail then?

sure, the group stage went on for several weeks. Players can move their games using wildcard etc.
not showing up and using a wildcard will both produce penalty points.
If you have 20 or more penalty points. Yet, he had 37 at the time of the news and there may have been a chance to at least play at dreamhack, since some players did that.

at some point they simply have to enforce the rules or other players will see it as an excuse to also miss their games, which can turn into a nightmare for future tournaments. And postponing games is already way too common.
On top of that you have to remember that they already pulled several strings so that stermy could even attend this groupstage.


That said, I still think that if someone cancels for kiev or later for the world final, they might do another "last chance" qualifier.

What strings did they pull and also are you sure he didn't already have too many penalty points at dreamhack, i remember watching Stermy TV and him saying he just got an email from ESL saying he was out of the IEM 5 so?

they added six more slots for ql

But still, If stermy couldn't play at dreamhack, what could he do?

At that point, nothing. But if the internet in Italy really was bad for _weeks_ he should've played it safe and try to schedule the matches so he could've played at Dreamhack. Just like Cypher who knew he'd have crappy ping and arranged it so he could play several matches from Kiev.

Hmm, well maybe he couldn't even reschedule due to his internet not being there, or maybe the thought had no occurred to him idk, either way it's pretty shit considering thats one of the main events of 2011.

now you are just speculating.

quakers do certainly do have an inability to accept results over preference

Online results = bullshit

I think we gonna see max ~12 players in Kiev, complicated visa system and so on, but I wish gl to everyone.

Wow, playerlist here is pretty wicked. Group A, honestly, everyone can make top 3 expect madix. I'm betting on strenx tho, I hope he can keep up his play from Dreamhack, and if thats the case im sure he makes nr 1. Group B is alot easier to predict, I think and hope for Gohlink to take the third spot.

if strenx practices a lot i think he could top this group too!

zsx \<3/

fopeye? ok thats pretty stupid, think about that

For some reasons it remembers me old cartoon about Popeye sailor.

The Abusive crew will roll over everyone! <3 :D

Swedes and the englishman to rule the world

Groups are made people whine Cypher wins, next

So when is the World Championship?

Can't find it anywhere.