ESR - IEM5 AC Group Stage

Oh please, you silly fanboy. I also have looked at czm's profile and you cherry picked the one impressive victory over a TON, and I mean it, a TON of defeats to mid-level duelers. Don't pretend like CZM is anywhere near the top level in his current form.

<< Comment #34 @ 16:07 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #31

hi, what counts is the wins in real duels, not some practice bs. lets see tonight ;D

<< Comment #79 @ 21:47 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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G.I. Jonesy - Reply to #5

Dismemberment? I remember that map from about 7 years ago. Surprising they added it to Quake Live, not that I dislike it.

<< Comment #6 @ 07:00 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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jamalz

CZM???????????????????????????????????????

MY GOD, I NEED A NOZZLE FOR MY COCK OR MY DICK IS GOING TO EXPLODE

Edited by jamalz at 07:01 CDT, 12 September 2010

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<< Comment #9 @ 07:32 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #6

ahahahaaha

<< Comment #37 @ 16:40 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #6

that's just, well dumb funny, but funny nonetheless, ahah.

<< Comment #10 @ 08:01 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Roswell47

dkt, z4/griffin
rapha, sparks
chance, rey/everkill
Dahang, gellehsak

<< Comment #11 @ 08:23 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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draven-

czm \o/ hub \o/

<< Comment #283 @ 14:56 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #11

why hasn't anyone plussed this yet :P

i can't fucking wait to see czm on hub again :!!!

Edited by r1ddler at 14:56 CDT, 15 September 2010

<< Comment #284 @ 15:35 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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smari - Reply to #283

You won't see it because every player can drop two maps :/

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r1ddler - Reply to #284

:///

wish they would pick maps and not drop them

<< Comment #12 @ 08:25 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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stunt.us

hopefully czm is in better shape than a couple weeks ago

<< Comment #13 @ 08:39 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #12

On the old maps he can give decent games, but I don't think he'll be any good on the new maps.

<< Comment #14 @ 08:49 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #13

last i saw him his aim was of a quadriplegic.

<< Comment #25 @ 13:32 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #14

13 inch laptop

<< Comment #46 @ 17:09 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #25

People have been saying he's been playing on a laptop with a random mini-mouse. Who confirmed this?

<< Comment #84 @ 01:09 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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erok - Reply to #46

seems pretty clear by specing him this is the truth, unless his age really has diminished his game that much

<< Comment #16 @ 10:21 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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rareh

czm!!!!!!!!!!! i am spraying everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #18 @ 10:46 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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weeja

everkill wins sexiest ql player award all times.

<< Comment #30 @ 15:02 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #18

that goes to stermy, he makes me spermy.

<< Comment #19 @ 11:21 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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p4r4

how can dkt play while being retarded?

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<< Comment #29 @ 14:55 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #19

its his style. Some people have aggressive style, some defensive style, some retarded style.

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<< Comment #20 @ 12:08 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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occultum

go crazyman! who's coming next? wombat or fatality? :<

<< Comment #21 @ 12:41 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Dynamix

Wait so is this just group play, not an actual tournament?

<< Comment #48 @ 17:32 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #21

It's like the normal IEM tournament format but the groups are being played online for some reason.

<< Comment #202 @ 04:16 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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SpUt - Reply to #48

this is what we play over a longer period of time in europe. the top 2 of each group will go the american championship finals at comiccon in nyc.

<< Comment #22 @ 12:47 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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xterm

It's group play to determine the final 8 that go to the grand final in NYC.

<< Comment #23 @ 12:58 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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FishStix

This shit is HYPE. Myself and Slasher are gonna try to sneak our way onto the broadcast from our hotel room at WCG USA. Can't wait to at least watch these games ;)

<< Comment #26 @ 13:34 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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jamalz

Why is group C so easy? We have choke chance vs scrub rey / lucker ziel and unknown everkill.

goddamnitall

Hoping for:

ZeRo4 / DKT
Rapha/ CZM
Chance / Rey
Dahang /Vo0

Would be fine if i saw:

-DKT +vamp1re
-Chance +ziel
-Vo0 +gellehsak

Edited by jamalz at 13:38 CDT, 12 September 2010

<< Comment #27 @ 13:49 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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twister

is this online or on lan?

<< Comment #28 @ 14:36 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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stingerrayer - Reply to #27

online

<< Comment #33 @ 16:06 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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xou

bumped

<< Comment #35 @ 16:08 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

going live now

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<< Comment #36 @ 16:25 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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stlava

We're doing hq and lq now.

HQ stream

LQ stream

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<< Comment #38 @ 16:52 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Lethe

who is jovire

Edit: if you don't know the answer, shut the fuck up

Edited by Lethe at 16:58 CDT, 12 September 2010

<< Comment #39 @ 16:54 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #38

who cares? lol

<< Comment #40 @ 16:54 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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miNd - Reply to #38

noob who fuckedit all up lol

<< Comment #43 @ 16:59 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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G2Wolf - Reply to #38

Ziel

<< Comment #44 @ 17:00 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #43

thank you.

<< Comment #41 @ 16:57 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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GreenMeanie

rapha vs czm
:p

Edited by GreenMeanie at 16:58 CDT, 12 September 2010

<< Comment #42 @ 16:59 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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ArchaiK

Jovire had it and got to passive, oh how many times we've that.

<< Comment #45 @ 17:01 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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langley

Yeah, you better find us czm!

<< Comment #47 @ 17:31 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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h8m3

czm aimng badly is a must see

<< Comment #49 @ 17:42 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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Cyn1c

Czm vs. Rapha = $$$

<< Comment #51 @ 17:48 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #49

???

out of shape czm with only the rg to rely on... and some odd rockets and plasma boilts. sure

he'll get destroyed...

edit:: hopefully he didn't have time to wamrup enough before the flysher game!

Edited by langley at 17:54 CDT, 12 September 2010

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Cyn1c - Reply to #51

I'm talking in terms of contest. One just can't deny that CZM has the brains, if not the aim at this point. He's been dormant and I'm just glad to see him back. Despite his inactivity, he delivered.

<< Comment #92 @ 09:03 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #86

Do you lower your standards when it comes to women as well?

<< Comment #93 @ 09:19 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Cyn1c - Reply to #92

Yeah, looks like I gave you too much attention. Now you can pull up those knickers coz the screwing's over girlie :)

<< Comment #101 @ 15:54 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #93

too bad I can't + myself

<< Comment #186 @ 00:15 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Cyn1c - Reply to #101

lol...+ me then!

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<< Comment #50 @ 17:44 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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tyas

i dont understand how it is possible to win with an aim like that. sometimes he have good moments but sometimes it looks like a noob :/

it looks like aim is nothing

<< Comment #52 @ 17:51 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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RonC

nice matchup. sucky map :(

<< Comment #53 @ 17:55 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

Hektik and CZM fucking deliver

Do NOT remove that map from the pool

<< Comment #54 @ 18:02 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #53

Seems to play a lot like dm6 but a little tighter.
I think it's a map style that should be kept in the pool, makes a nice replacement.

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ZeritoN - Reply to #54

Mid-air grenades
Flick rails
Lots of battles at RA and Mega
AWESOME

It's an awesome map. Hard to get back in control maybe. Perhaps replace the GA with a YA. Dunno, haven't played it so dunno how it'd play out

Edited by ZeritoN at 18:06 CDT, 12 September 2010

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f0rk123 - Reply to #56

Make the holes bigger, maybe add some under the RA. The RA to YA position is pretty dominating.

<< Comment #60 @ 18:15 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #56

Hektik is really fun, though the other side of the map, where GA -> RG and second RL is, is completely useless, it's kinda for +backing. Moving from RA to YA takes 1-2 seconds which is also a flaw. I mean it needs some small item tweaking and it's going to be awesome.

Moving GA<-->YA might do the thing, although GA spot is kinda risky :}

Edited by mefajpE^ at 18:19 CDT, 12 September 2010

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #56

maybe need to sort out Mega area because everytime I see a player pick up mega they just get ownd coming out of the room so they go stright for tele and just eat spam rockets at the tele exit.

Edited by GreenMeanie at 18:21 CDT, 12 September 2010

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #61

Yep, it's the riskiest mega spot out there out of all maps I guess. Exit is so hard when opponent catches you beforehand.

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #64

Then perhaps instead of mindlessly timing Mega, players have to tactfully acquire the Mega somehow?

I also think it's not such a bad thing to get spammed on your way out with only One Yellow and One Green armor. Whoever picks it up is at a MAJOR advantage without the spam. I mean a huge advantage.

The Rapha CZM game on that map has proven to me (as if I already didn't know) the map is fantastic.

Edit: I forgot about Red Armor :(

Edited by zalu at 12:02 CDT, 18 September 2010

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klout - Reply to #88

I agree, hektik is an awesome map.

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langley - Reply to #88

I couldn't agree more!

<< Comment #81 @ 01:07 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.152.191) - Reply to #53

Agreed. Hektik looks like a very interesting map and far more exciting than battleforged. I think there are some balance issues that need to be resolved, namely the dm6-like problem where it's easy to have control over red, yellow, and mega without a problem. I think the green should be replaced with a yellow maybe, cause I do not think the map should remain as it is.

<< Comment #89 @ 07:10 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #81

Oh my GOD the map is 10x what battleforged is.

<< Comment #376 @ 00:05 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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Lowbird - Reply to #89

That wouldnt be hard imo.

<< Comment #395 @ 18:11 CDT, 19 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #376

True.

<< Comment #55 @ 18:05 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

go mathbot!

<< Comment #57 @ 18:07 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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noctis

nice ztn spawn

<< Comment #58 @ 18:08 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

To be honest, I preferred the grenade-launcher spawn to these shitty spawns which start 90% of all ZTN games

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<< Comment #201 @ 04:13 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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tbone - Reply to #58

Yeah, i mean wtf?!?! Didn't anyone actually test the changes?

<< Comment #343 @ 08:52 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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dCoy - Reply to #58

I honestly don't see why they took that spawn out.. It was pretty balanced if you ask me. You spawn GL, your opponent either rl ya, lg, or shotgun. Either way, if you react good enough and make a good decision, you still get an item. Worst spawn is: One spawns LG and the other RL YA..

<< Comment #387 @ 10:48 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #58

It wasn't for the initial spawn.

http://www.youtube.com/user/waltorg#p/search/1/8u4CAf04Ils

is why they removed that one.

<< Comment #62 @ 18:21 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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langley

great song

<< Comment #63 @ 18:25 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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kevz

hektik was surprisingly fun to spectate, ztn was boring on the other hand :<

<< Comment #90 @ 07:11 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #63

Fun as hell. The map owns.

I actually was reading the text while the map loads and was surprised to find Swelt did the map. doh! The guy can make maps.

<< Comment #388 @ 10:49 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #90

No joke. More like swolt maps, amirite?

<< Comment #65 @ 18:45 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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h8m3

hektik is interesting but mh area is totally dumb

<< Comment #72 @ 19:35 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #65

agree, put rail there, and mh someplace else.. make second rl room useful or something..

<< Comment #66 @ 18:54 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

Why those pro players have always problems with their mouses? I mean I've used logitech mice (3xball, 2xlaser, G5, G500) for my entire life and I had never ever any sort of issues with them.

I must be lucky bastard.

<< Comment #67 @ 19:13 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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RonC

please upload demos on the ESL match result page. thanks!

<< Comment #68 @ 19:29 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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pks

goddamnit i missed rapha vs. czm on hektik, that was like the one match i really really really wanted to see.

was it atleast awesome?

Edited by pks at 19:29 CDT, 12 September 2010

<< Comment #70 @ 19:35 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #68

Unlike anything you've seen before. :@

<< Comment #71 @ 19:35 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #68

pretty good yeah

<< Comment #75 @ 19:38 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #68

for a while.. it sure looks like czm is really playing on some netbook :p

<< Comment #76 @ 19:50 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #68

first half

<< Comment #69 @ 19:35 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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dansen

vamp1re on aerowalk...

cpm>vq3
SUCKIT

<< Comment #74 @ 19:38 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #69

oh plz, still wp by vamp

<< Comment #106 @ 17:24 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #69

dkt > vamp1re on aerowalk even worse, lol

<< Comment #110 @ 17:53 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #106

ur too late, the ruling has already taken place

<< Comment #73 @ 19:38 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

Americans kinda suck at aiming and they are playing such a +b game most of the time.

<< Comment #80 @ 00:07 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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vamp1re - Reply to #73

You hit the nail on the head.

<< Comment #91 @ 08:59 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #80

:-D

<< Comment #209 @ 05:14 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #80

I was rooting for u :'( good luck next time.

<< Comment #77 @ 20:15 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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fuzz

C Z M
Z
M

<< Comment #82 @ 01:07 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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jWorm

So only the own3D stream is working atm?

<< Comment #78 @ 20:56 CDT, 12 September 2010 >>

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baneman

fiend's lg looks like a bot lol

<< Comment #83 @ 01:07 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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erok

A: dkt, z4
B: rapha, flysher
C: chance, everkill
D: Dahang, voo

<< Comment #85 @ 01:21 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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wingz

CZM

<< Comment #87 @ 03:25 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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rareh

I can't plus my own posts :(
"Error: You may not judge your own posts!"

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<< Comment #94 @ 11:41 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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scowl

VODs?

Oh wait, it's quake-live.tv ...

<< Comment #96 @ 13:16 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #94

Haha, and what happened to that whole thing about qltv restreaming the quakecon vods for the entire week afterwards. I waited for over a week and never saw anything. :(

<< Comment #99 @ 14:11 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Normalised - Reply to #94

they're using own3d so shouldnt they have insta-vods ?

<< Comment #103 @ 17:07 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #99

found it. http://www.own3d.tv/QuakeLiveTV

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<< Comment #95 @ 11:57 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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w0nk0

just out of curiosity is there a way to like separate voice part of the cast out at the casting stage so u can just upload that part quickly and let people watch the demos synced with audio casts?

even that would be better than not being able to get the vods for like a month after the event, which is pretty pathetic tbh.

<< Comment #97 @ 13:16 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Dynamix

Hmm so if CZM does qualify, that vies him almost a month to get his aim up to par.

That + him playing on a real PC and he might deliver.

<< Comment #100 @ 15:01 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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rareh

VODS?

<< Comment #102 @ 16:48 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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xou

bumped

<< Comment #104 @ 17:22 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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pks

cant wait for some zero4!

<< Comment #105 @ 17:23 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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jamalz

CZM - Sparks gonna be huge.

Didn't expect everkill to beat rey_ .. total wtf here.

Ziel fucked up vs chance lol.

I can't wait for ZeRo4 to play potato.

<< Comment #107 @ 17:36 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

They have to stream Vo0 vs Gelle. It is THE deciding match-up in group D.

<< Comment #111 @ 17:54 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #107

agreed, and if vo0 wins, i definitely want to see how he plays vs dahang.

<< Comment #108 @ 17:47 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #107

pff
show czm - sparks instead!

<< Comment #112 @ 17:56 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #108

Fuuuuuuck that.

CZM vs Sparks can blow me. ;)

<< Comment #109 @ 17:51 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #107

How come there's 4 cpm players in this tourney? What's up with that? Moreover, why are they in the same groups? Hmmm...

<< Comment #113 @ 18:06 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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xou

LQ on ustream tonight

http://ustream.tv/channel/quakelivetv

<< Comment #114 @ 18:10 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #113

Got a VLC STREAM LINK for this shit?

<< Comment #115 @ 18:17 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #113

or not... http://own3d.tv/live/231

<< Comment #116 @ 18:27 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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kevz

some Vo0ownage going on

<< Comment #118 @ 18:48 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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luanswan2002 - Reply to #116

Too bad Vo0 is gonna get DaHanged by his balls.

<< Comment #129 @ 19:15 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #118

more Vo0o0o0o0o0ownage :>

<< Comment #132 @ 19:21 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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luanswan2002 - Reply to #129

fffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

<< Comment #117 @ 18:47 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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smari

czm :/

<< Comment #120 @ 18:49 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #117

fffuuuu :( one of the few reasons im staying up actually watching this

<< Comment #122 @ 18:51 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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smari - Reply to #120

only reason I was staying up
I hope they show at least zero4 now.

Edited by smari at 18:52 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #119 @ 18:49 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Terbo

same time as monday night football... boo hiss.

<< Comment #121 @ 18:50 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Infuscomus

no czm is lame :(

I hope Zero4 does good.

Old-schoolers return.

<< Comment #123 @ 19:01 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123

have czm and sparks played?

<< Comment #124 @ 19:04 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #123

czm is having some sort of problems, his matches are delayed I think

<< Comment #126 @ 19:05 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #124

I just realized it's easy to check with ql.

<< Comment #141 @ 19:52 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #126

apparently czm can't play because of a fried computer, according to the casters... :-(

<< Comment #125 @ 19:04 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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JayDee_

wow vo0 went shithouse on dahang about halfway through aero

<< Comment #127 @ 19:15 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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esdf '

haha voo just shat on dahang's chest and smeared it.

<< Comment #128 @ 19:15 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #127

lol

<< Comment #130 @ 19:20 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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luanswan2002

DaHanG...

Edited by luanswan2002 at 19:21 CDT, 13 September 2010

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<< Comment #131 @ 19:21 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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FishStix

Fucking EPIC match DaHanG vs. Vo0

Next we're gonna get ZeRo4 and griffin / dkt on the stream. FUUUCK YEAH :D

<< Comment #135 @ 19:32 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #131

One of the casters (not greased) seems to be behind the stream by a few seconds

<< Comment #133 @ 19:24 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

How does czm afford stanford and princeton, but not a decent computer?

<< Comment #195 @ 02:01 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #133

He might have got scholarship ;P

<< Comment #196 @ 02:21 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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nude-fox - Reply to #133

isnt he getting his phd? you dont pay tuition and receive a small stipend that is how he can afford it.

<< Comment #231 @ 10:05 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Kristus - Reply to #133

THat's probably WHY he can't afford a real computer.

<< Comment #288 @ 19:13 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #231

yeah, i was going to say the same thing. college in the states is ridiculously expensive

<< Comment #134 @ 19:29 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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dansen

zero4 should be really good on dismemberment i imagine.

it was played a ton back in the day, when he was "in his prime" or whatever.

<< Comment #214 @ 06:22 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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wrl - Reply to #134

It was never popular in the US.

<< Comment #225 @ 08:09 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #214

i still imagine him practicing alot back in the day, i think it was played at one or two cpl events.

<< Comment #244 @ 13:05 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #225

In Europe.

<< Comment #136 @ 19:38 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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FishStix

GRIFFIN!!!!!!

<< Comment #137 @ 19:38 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

Z4 delivers.

<< Comment #139 @ 19:39 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #137

some ass saving last minute shots there..

<< Comment #138 @ 19:39 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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langley

z4 vs griffin @ aero <-- great game!

<< Comment #140 @ 19:45 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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klout

Blah I missed all these games cause of work. VODs to the rescue!?

<< Comment #142 @ 19:53 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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TheWalker

I dont usally bitch about bad casters because but my god. Get a clue. Why do you cast a game you dont even understand the most basic strategy in? I miss J&J :(

<< Comment #143 @ 20:20 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #142

I haven't been watching tonight but I've always found Greased and Jehar to be great casters in the past. Unless ofcourse QLTV has some of the more unusual casters on tonight, like stevo or that girl who idles in the background giggling like a damn child.

<< Comment #158 @ 20:42 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #142

they're not really bad. but i facepalmed at the beginning of the rapha - flysher t7 game, where one of the casters totally misread raphas delay of mh at beginning as a mistake and him being lucky getting all the items afterwards.

<< Comment #167 @ 20:51 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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TheWalker - Reply to #158

Yeah and that wasnt the only time. They just dont know anything about the game. And one of them is actually sitting and just saying everything thats happening... like "x picked up the Rocket Launcher and fires some spam rockets"... i mean... YEAH I CAN SEE THAT. And its not that interesting. And they are not funny and they are sitting there and laughing at each others bad jokes.

Bleh... a stream without them would be so much better. But i am thankful for the stream.

<< Comment #197 @ 02:35 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #167

i do think that they are genuinely exited for whats happening, and there are worse commentators out there. but 3 is a crowd, and they keep interupting each other.

also yeha, they lack background. not knowing that hektik is a new map was weak aswell.

<< Comment #258 @ 01:27 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.182.204) - Reply to #167

This right here. Greased/jehar if you ever read this, I don't want you guys to tell me what I already know and/or can see on my screen.

Give us some of your insights. Tell us about the metagame. Don't just tell me what I see on the screen.

<< Comment #144 @ 20:29 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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yikes

dkt channeling czm on ~~hub~~ aero.

<< Comment #146 @ 20:39 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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jamalz

OMFG FOMG FOMG FOMG FOMGF FOMGOMFGM

OMFG
ZERO4

ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO4

I JUST LOST MY GODDAMN MIND.

HOLY SHIT SON, HOLY FUCKING SHIT

IM FUCKING DYING, I NEED FLUIDS, HOLY SHIT,

Edited by jamalz at 20:41 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #148 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Nukm

ahahaah awesome z4 comeback on hektik against dkt
nice trashtalk aswell :D

<< Comment #156 @ 20:41 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #148

haha, glad I stayed up

<< Comment #272 @ 11:01 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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dCoy - Reply to #148

Probably the greatest comebacks of 2010?? NOwaii

<< Comment #273 @ 12:26 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #272

no I consider dkt's comeback from retirement the biggest comeback this year :D

<< Comment #306 @ 22:19 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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dCoy - Reply to #273

Dkt was never retired.. therefore.. Z4 raping 13 points off of dkt in under 4 mins is the greatest comeback EVAH

<< Comment #147 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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yikes

"That's how you do it." -ZeRo4

<< Comment #149 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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FishStix

That's how you do it.

~ ZeRo4

<< Comment #150 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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yikes - Reply to #149

owned. :D

<< Comment #151 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Jubei

What a comeback man.

<< Comment #152 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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MailmanMel

That is truly the way to blow a 14 point lead ...

One of the best comebacks in quake history i'd have to say.

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<< Comment #153 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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kg

ahaha how many epic comebacks z4

<< Comment #154 @ 20:40 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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LukKe

ok.. that was worth czm not playing tonight.. fuck me

<< Comment #160 @ 20:43 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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wch - Reply to #154

Wrong.

<< Comment #155 @ 20:41 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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langley

wow, just wow. z4 has been doing some great comebacks today...

edit: plz upload the demos from this matchup!

Edited by langley at 20:43 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #157 @ 20:41 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

LMAO@DKT

haha, man a hint for you from an average player: don't play +b on hektik near the lg/mega :D how stupid was that???

Z4 <3

Edited by mefajpE^ at 20:43 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #166 @ 20:46 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.44.195)

Zero4's comeback against DKT is the reason why Hektik needs to replace battleforged.

<< Comment #171 @ 21:32 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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destrukt - Reply to #166

actually, T9 needs to replace hektik

<< Comment #190 @ 01:06 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.44.195) - Reply to #171

At least from a spectator's point of view, T9 has tons of action but is painful to watch. Too much BS spam, more spam, more spam, spam plasma, spam rockets, spam grenades, spam here, spam there, absolute torture to watch. Then finally we get a real fight and it happens to be a very exciting flat LG duel.

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<< Comment #208 @ 05:10 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #190

Hey now, you're forgetting the tele +backing. Only map worse than t9 was t2.

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<< Comment #213 @ 06:21 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #208

they seemed suspiciously similar.

<< Comment #267 @ 07:23 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #213

Were they created by the same person?

<< Comment #266 @ 07:21 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #208

Oh and the cracks in the floor.

Edited by Nzr0 at 07:21 CDT, 15 September 2010

<< Comment #182 @ 23:37 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #171

Raged

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<< Comment #165 @ 20:45 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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HaQs

Zero4 shitting all over the potato
THATS HOW YOU BLOW A 14 POINT LEAD HOOOOOOOOOOOO
battleforged is awful compared to hektik

Edited by HaQs at 21:05 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #168 @ 21:02 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #165

wrong way around bro

<< Comment #159 @ 20:43 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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cerb0z

Hektik looks like awesome map tbh. Go z4! That's how you do it :)

<< Comment #161 @ 20:44 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Nzr0 '

Watching hektik for the first time(z4 vs dkt) I have to say... it's awesome.

Edited by Nzr0 at 20:44 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #162 @ 20:44 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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kevz

ooooooooooooooooooooo myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy gooooooodddddddddddddddddd

ZeRo4 GET

also, fuck battleforged, moar hektik!!!!

<< Comment #164 @ 20:45 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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miicah

THATS HOW YOU DO IT

DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!
DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!
DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!
DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!
DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!
DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!
DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!
DKT JUST THREW A CHAIR!!!!

<< Comment #170 @ 21:31 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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destrukt - Reply to #164

not sure what this whole chair throwing thing is, but its not true. i think i may have sat up and the chair caught the back of my leg, but i never threw a chair.

you sure do talk a lot online though, not much to say in person

<< Comment #187 @ 00:51 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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wch - Reply to #170

You should retire from replying on ESR.

<< Comment #188 @ 00:58 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (121.45.54.20) - Reply to #170

gun haf 2 buy a hole knew dining rumm set soon m8?

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<< Comment #210 @ 05:34 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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uNhoLeee - Reply to #188

ahah

<< Comment #193 @ 01:13 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #170

dude relax, why you care what some faggots talking? relax and troll troll :) you can say 100 times you retired from quake and still play, you can through chairs 100 times... it's your life, I think you are too nice person to surounding world :) and talks about potato, it's like 90% of geeks jelous you .. gg, hf :)

Edited by GUArd at 01:16 CDT, 14 September 2010

<< Comment #217 @ 06:45 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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linkoo - Reply to #193

I love your grammar!!

<< Comment #198 @ 02:37 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #170

relax man, still wp.

if you don't respond to zero4's trashtalk, people sure will.

<< Comment #163 @ 20:45 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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0x5f3759df

thats how you do it

<< Comment #169 @ 21:09 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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megaman3

who retired dkt for the first time? (when he stopped being a "pro" but still playing every single tourney)

I think it was griffin, and greasedscotsman just said now dkt will truly stop if he doesn't qualify. The decisive match is against griffin

<< Comment #172 @ 21:35 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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destrukt - Reply to #169

I don't know what is more sad. The fact that I use the world "retire" for a video game, or the fact that you actually care enough to talk about it.

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<< Comment #173 @ 21:42 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #172

kind of a slippery slope you're on there...e.g., the fact that YOU care to respond to somebody you don't know randomly responding to a word used to describe you (sorta, as in "sorta retired")

-p.s. z4's not a moron - he only said "that's how you [blow a 14 pt lead]" which could apply to ANY fast-paced, high-fragging, small map, not just hektik, as you mistakenly pointed out.

Edited by evilbollweevil at 21:44 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #174 @ 21:48 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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destrukt - Reply to #173

No, it's not.

And no, you're wrong.

<< Comment #177 @ 22:08 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #174

It must be an awesome feeling.

<< Comment #185 @ 00:09 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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wch - Reply to #177

Are you refering to him getting shat on? Or the fact he is apart of one of the greatest come backs in QuakeLive (albeit on the wrong end)?

<< Comment #178 @ 22:14 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #174

sorry, thought "slippery slope" or reductio ad absurdum arguments were well-known fallacies -- hmm, okay how to phrase this differently for clarity.

Your argument:
"It's sad that you're TALKING[my caps] about my professional status, after all it's equally sad that I talk about myself as retired"

Well using the logic you lay out, I would say it's sadder you posting your opinion (wasn't even a reply to AvengeR really) in the same thread as the comment about you. More caring means more sadness, I suppose.
On a happier note, you provided a very entertaining match that many viewers enjoyed! :)

p.s. but alas, you did draft the blueprint for how to blow a 14pt lead.

<< Comment #180 @ 22:51 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #178

too much analysis of my obvious intentional attempt of trolling him.

and now more on topic: i was not the one who first used the word "retire". It was first used by dkt himself when he retired from being a pro while doing an interview about that, which was major news here; and actually then it was used for a second time by him now that he's retiring from lan events, as said today by quake-live.tv casters. I think it wasn't material for ESR major news

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<< Comment #181 @ 22:55 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #180

my bad, just taking a free ride on your troll coat :) and thanks for closing this sub-thread with the good ole factual stuff.

<< Comment #307 @ 22:23 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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dCoy - Reply to #181

Trollercoaster?? That's a never ending ride..

<< Comment #308 @ 22:23 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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dCoy - Reply to #181

Trollercoaster?? That's a never ending ride..

<< Comment #239 @ 10:54 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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fuzz - Reply to #172

I have your mousepad :d

<< Comment #189 @ 00:59 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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miicah - Reply to #169

dandaking retired him at quakecon :D

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<< Comment #175 @ 21:57 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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FishStix

FishStix fantasy mappool:

ZTN
HUB
DM13
Hektik
T9
T4
DM6/T7

<< Comment #176 @ 22:02 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #175

yay, lets turn this into another map pool discussion thread ;)

Nukm fantasy mappool:
t7, dm13, hektik, new map, new map

Edited by Nukm at 22:06 CDT, 13 September 2010

<< Comment #220 @ 06:51 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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linkoo - Reply to #176

NO ZTN?!??!!!??
Well I couldn't care less and I agree that these map-pool discussions are getting tired, poll or it's pointless...

<< Comment #192 @ 01:06 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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miicah - Reply to #175

Hektik
Aero/Hub
DM13
T7
ZTN

<< Comment #191 @ 01:06 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.44.195) - Reply to #175

Really fish? Dm6? Come on. Dm6's time is DONE. It should never comeback in QL.

<< Comment #194 @ 01:33 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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FishStix - Reply to #191

I've always liked DM6 more than T7. I'm new to Quake tho :)

<< Comment #229 @ 09:43 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #194

watching > playing
t7 > dm6
common sense > fishstix

<< Comment #179 @ 22:15 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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FishStix

Pt.1: http://www.own3d.tv/video/32593/QuakeLive.TV_..._02_27_34_

dkt vs. ZeRo4 on Hektic starts @ 41:21

Pt. 2: http://www.own3d.tv/video/32595/QuakeLive.TV_..._03_04_24_

We'll be cutting a special VoD for dkt vs. Z4 soon hopefully

Edited by FishStix at 22:31 CDT, 13 September 2010

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<< Comment #184 @ 23:54 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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incendiary - Reply to #179

and do upload it to qltv

<< Comment #200 @ 02:52 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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wch - Reply to #179

For anyone who wants to see..

Part 1:-

30:50 - Aerowalk (dkt vs ZeRo4)
41:25 - Hektik (dkt vs ZeRo4)
56:40 - Lost World (FienD vs Vo0)
1:03:45 - Bloodrun (Fiend vs Vo0)
1:23:09 - Bloodrun (vampire vs ZeRo4)
1:35:05 - Aerowalk (vampire vs ZeRo4) [after the PB drop]

Part 2:-

2:35 - Lost World (DaHanG vs gellehsak) [5 minutes in]
12:57 - Bloodrun (DaHanG vs gellehsak)

Edited by wch at 03:43 CDT, 14 September 2010

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<< Comment #212 @ 06:18 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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twister - Reply to #179

is there no vo0 vs dahang vod?

<< Comment #222 @ 07:06 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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T-B0N3 - Reply to #212

Vo0 - Dahang

http://www.own3d.tv/video/32589/QuakeLive.TV_..._00_44_42_

@ 48:00

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<< Comment #227 @ 09:02 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Leerno - Reply to #179

There appears to be about 3 minutes missing on the z4/vamp hub game.

<< Comment #237 @ 10:48 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #227

the other link has the 2nd part

<< Comment #251 @ 18:27 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Leerno - Reply to #237

The first link ends at 4:36. The second link starts at 1:58. So it's missing 2 minutes and 38 seconds.

<< Comment #338 @ 07:58 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #179

is it normal that the sound has a second or so delay?

<< Comment #183 @ 23:44 CDT, 13 September 2010 >>

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palatka

will demos be up before 2011?

<< Comment #199 @ 02:40 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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erok

voo > dahang? naice

<< Comment #211 @ 05:41 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #199

erok are you dueling at all? i havent seen you around

<< Comment #255 @ 21:55 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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erok - Reply to #211

havent really been gaming at all for the past year or so, just got back into quake this week

<< Comment #203 @ 04:41 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ffx

I knew that Hektik would be the shit and I was right. Fuck what a sick game by zero4. I'm praying to see cypher vs. k1llsen on it :D

Edited by ffx at 04:46 CDT, 14 September 2010

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bsk - Reply to #203

Are you serious? That was an awful game. Dkt rushes and spawnrapes for 5 minutes, then loses control and keeps rushing until Z4 wins. Like watching two low-level amateurs with half-decent aim.

Obviously it's because neither player really knows the map yet, but wow, what a shit game.

<< Comment #204 @ 04:50 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Infuscomus

Is it possible to get the config from those players ? VoO, czm, zero4 ?

I wonder how their games look like.

<< Comment #205 @ 04:57 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123

Can't wait to see if zero4 can take rapha at the event. Should be good to have more than 1 top level american.

<< Comment #206 @ 05:01 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ffx - Reply to #205

Dahang?!

<< Comment #207 @ 05:08 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #206

I meant at the very top. I don't think dahang is likely to win anything currently, compared to Europeans like stermy and killsen stepping up.

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<< Comment #215 @ 06:22 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #207

Are you kidding? You think z4 has a chance to take down rapha, but don't consider dahang is at the "very top" of American players along with rapha?

Dahang > z4

<< Comment #243 @ 11:49 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #215

Hello Dahang

<< Comment #219 @ 06:47 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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ffx - Reply to #207

Haha like zero4 could win a big tournament in his current shape. Stermy, cypher, cooller, k1llsen, av3k, spartie and strenx are all at least one level above him. I was impressed by his hektik play vs dkt but his timing and positioning was meh from what I have seen. Don't get me wrong he is good but not anywhere near at the top5. Imo dahang did quite well at the last tournaments I think he always placed top6 or something. We will see at the lan finals who will place 2nd after rapha :P.

Edited by ffx at 06:48 CDT, 14 September 2010

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p4r4 - Reply to #205

What about vo0? Oh wait...

<< Comment #223 @ 07:13 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #205

he can win t4, but that's about it. if he continues to play, maybe in a year or so. but in his current state i'll say a close loss is as good as it gets.

<< Comment #216 @ 06:40 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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[mash]

awesome.

<< Comment #221 @ 06:51 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Lethe

Edited by Lethe at 06:54 CDT, 14 September 2010

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<< Comment #228 @ 09:06 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Magician - Reply to #221

fucking doper

<< Comment #233 @ 10:29 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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destrukt - Reply to #221

*crickets*

<< Comment #234 @ 10:35 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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stafu - Reply to #233

Edited by stafu at 10:48 CDT, 14 September 2010

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<< Comment #238 @ 10:49 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #233

it's just a joke dude :P

<< Comment #391 @ 10:24 CDT, 18 September 2010 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #233

Dude, his comeback wouldn't have been so epic if you hadn't thoroughly rolled him (including 2 gaunt kills) on aerowalk. Ignore the ppl talking on ESR. I'm just a casual player/forum junkie, and even I know better than to listen to anything these assholes say.

<< Comment #235 @ 10:42 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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GrotesK - Reply to #221

ahaha worst person

shame dkt

<< Comment #224 @ 07:41 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Nico_QD

who know - what mouse vo0 are using?
cant find this at google... (
btw vo0 played just incredible, awesome... will track him )

Edited by Nico_QD at 07:43 CDT, 14 September 2010

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faerie_ - Reply to #224

harassed him on irc, ie3.0 but I have no clue about the sens ( *looks* medium/high )

<< Comment #261 @ 04:07 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Nico_QD - Reply to #256

IE3.0? Ок. Sens we can see at his config, isn't it?.
____
seta sensitivity "2.79"
seta m_yaw "0.022"
seta cl_mouseAccel "0"
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hm... are you sure he play at ie3.0 ... with 400dpi it will be about 32 см for 360 degree.. like avek, maybe...

<< Comment #270 @ 10:04 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.182.88) - Reply to #261

I was fairly sure he is using 3.3 @ 800 DPI or 6.6 @ 400 DPI.

<< Comment #271 @ 10:37 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #261

sensitivity 2.8
cl_mouseaccel 0.055
msie 3.0 (500(hz)
yaw/pitch 0.022

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<< Comment #278 @ 14:37 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #271

cl_mouseaccel 0.055
This is new and confused the hell out of me.

<< Comment #279 @ 14:43 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Nico_QD - Reply to #271

thanks for info! :)
i think u use a very big mousepad... )

<< Comment #296 @ 20:07 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #271

i've noticed a lot of ppl using really low mouse accel. i can't imagine it being much more than a placebo than just using 0 accel

<< Comment #315 @ 01:36 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #296

having a low value for mouseaccel doesnt translate into having low accel, just like you cant do that for sensitivity.
for example: i had 0.1 in the past, updates my mouse firmware and somehow 0.05 is higher now than 0.1 was before.

<< Comment #340 @ 08:33 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #296

if you don't notice the difference between accel 0, 0.05 and 0.1 (at 400dpi) you are a very bad player, sorry :<

Edited by zealot at 08:34 CDT, 16 September 2010

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Arcita - Reply to #340

heh, that's probably true. i never experimented with accel much until lately, especially with really low accel values. testing that out, i do notice the difference ;D

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therm - Reply to #340

this

<< Comment #300 @ 20:28 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #271

are you allowed to OC the usb ports at tournaments to get 500hz?

<< Comment #345 @ 09:22 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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shady8701 - Reply to #300

ssshhh, i asked this here once and got a "cool story bro" to hear.
Apparently you can, pretty common.
also, you didn't hear this from me.

<< Comment #372 @ 19:20 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #345

it should be openly allowed...i'd use the 3.0 but i don't want to go to a tournament and be stuck with 125hz bs (not that i'd waste my $$ on a tournament anymore). that mouse is worthless at 125mhz

Edited by judge717 at 19:21 CDT, 16 September 2010

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shady8701 - Reply to #372

most mice, probably all of them, dont feel so smooth at 125hz.
agree with you there.

<< Comment #326 @ 05:35 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Intrinzik - Reply to #271

Just curious, which OS? and 32 bit or 64 bit?

<< Comment #353 @ 13:12 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #326

Windows 7 64-bit

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<< Comment #382 @ 05:27 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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Spermi - Reply to #353

Vo0, config pls:)

<< Comment #356 @ 14:33 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #271

[+]'ed for IE 3.0 :P

<< Comment #226 @ 08:46 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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flowrush

wp comeback by ZeRo4. It's not often you see comebacks like that anymore. I think his blade is starting to look sharp. Not quite yet the samurai sword he had before, but getting there. DKT just needs to stay focused and be more careful at times. It seemed to me he played more careless after taking such a huge lead, and the turn of the match starting with him pushing out to fight z4's lg in mid with distance rockets and a lesser stack. ZeRo4 wins the fight pretty easily then continues to play at a HEKTIC pace, while dkt seemed to not quite have as much pep in his step towards the end.

<< Comment #232 @ 10:15 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #226

Yeah, it seemed more like dkt lost it than z4 won such an amazing comeback. He was just taking dumb fights sometimes and handing over frags. Not really an amazing comeback for z4, dkt just gave it to him it seemed like.

<< Comment #248 @ 16:08 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #232

Z4 hit 3 pixel rails in a ROW to get dkt down during the comeback when dkt actually got some stack and had a chance to end it once and for all, thats not DKT losing, thats ZERO4 BEING A MONSTER.

Edited by jamalz at 16:08 CDT, 14 September 2010

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bsk - Reply to #248

To be 16-2 (I think) up at this level and lose it... is losing it. Sorry.

<< Comment #230 @ 10:01 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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duumed

Vo0 $$$

<< Comment #236 @ 10:48 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Lethe

z4's rails are sick. this is a fucklot of improvement since that whatever final vs vo0

<< Comment #240 @ 10:55 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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GrotesK

Edited by GrotesK at 11:07 CDT, 14 September 2010

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<< Comment #241 @ 11:03 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #240

Thats not how you attach a place image into a comment :x

Edited by xou at 11:03 CDT, 14 September 2010

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Lethe - Reply to #241

or how you do it

<< Comment #253 @ 18:55 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #240

so damn seksi

<< Comment #297 @ 20:08 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #240

dkt is a poor man's cha0ticz

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<< Comment #245 @ 13:41 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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butcher_kgp '

I just got off the stream when dkt had a 12 lead and even though zero4 was hitting shots I was sure its just not possible, now I have to watch the VOD. Gratz for proving me wrong however.

<< Comment #246 @ 13:44 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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smari

Glad to see czm still has a chance :)
Please post a major news when the date of the match is known.

<< Comment #247 @ 14:40 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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u3a6

So vo0 2nd best american player? oh, wait...

<< Comment #282 @ 14:54 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #247

hhahahahhahahha

<< Comment #249 @ 18:21 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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scowl

hektik is kinda familiar to phrantic, isn't it?

<< Comment #250 @ 18:26 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #249

I'd say it's more like hub tbh, especially if you're talking about the rail-less version of phrantic.

Unless you meant the last syllable of each name, in which case they are almost identical.

<< Comment #265 @ 07:07 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #250

Yep, I meant gameplay-wise, of course. ;)

Imo, it feels similiar to phrantic because there's this constant upper level vs. lower level situation. Also, phrantic's RA area and hektik's MH area are comparable because the player in control doesn't really have to go for it and can instead rely on dealing damage when his opponent tries to leave.

But I've only seen zero4 vs dkt, dunno if this was a 'typical' hektik match.

Edited by scowl at 07:08 CDT, 15 September 2010

<< Comment #252 @ 18:45 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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luanswan2002

Vo0 played so good! I think he can beat a lot of top european players if he puts his mind to it. Some of the best movement I've seen!

<< Comment #254 @ 19:24 CDT, 14 September 2010 >>

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Nukm

dkt never had a 14 point lead btw, 12 afaik ;)

Edited by Nukm at 08:26 CDT, 15 September 2010

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tifu - Reply to #254

oh you crazy germans

<< Comment #260 @ 02:23 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #254

but wasn't that how you blow a 14 point lead?
isn't that how it's done?

<< Comment #262 @ 04:08 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Nico_QD - Reply to #254

13 was

<< Comment #259 @ 01:28 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

so when is czm playing his final match?

<< Comment #263 @ 04:12 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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deotrip

finally a good new map! sick comeback by zero4.

<< Comment #264 @ 04:12 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Lethe

the finals are 2 groups, 4 players each?

<< Comment #268 @ 07:57 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #264

that or tripple-elimination 8-player-pool with a best-of-7 final

<< Comment #269 @ 09:18 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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xero- '

DATSHOWUDOIT

<< Comment #274 @ 13:56 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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xou

*crazy bump for crazy man*

<< Comment #275 @ 14:04 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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smari - Reply to #274

nice!
will it be on ql.tv?

<< Comment #277 @ 14:05 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #275

it should be ye

<< Comment #276 @ 14:04 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Derb_

*crazy bump for crazy man*

<< Comment #305 @ 20:48 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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wrl - Reply to #276

I believe it was "crezyman."

<< Comment #280 @ 14:45 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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p4r4

I really hope that czm wins instead of one of those damn canadians with flapping heads.

<< Comment #281 @ 14:53 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #280

ye, but 99.9 % of Americans are retards.(czm and rapha are exceptions).
Euros and Canadians are smarter.

<< Comment #287 @ 18:13 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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G.I. Jonesy - Reply to #281

NASA agrees.

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zar4 - Reply to #287

pretty much anyone who gets literally trillions of dollars thrown at them is going to achieve stuff in space

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judge717 - Reply to #302

perks of being a rich country...as much as you think NASA gets from the gov't it's only like 5% of our discretionary spending budget. I think it's about 20 billion/year.

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Malice - Reply to #304

Oh so it's not 50% of the budget?

This really puts things in perspective for me.

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judge717 - Reply to #312

well i think it's actually more like 1.75%, but i said $20 billion/year..that's enough info to put it into perspective. rougly 4x more than the European space agency.

i'm not sure what you mean i guess.

edit: actually here you go, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_ag...E_AGENCIES

Edited by judge717 at 17:20 CDT, 16 September 2010

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becks - Reply to #304

the budget or the money that would be available without borrowing billions in China?

<< Comment #358 @ 15:46 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #334

got me there

<< Comment #314 @ 01:26 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #287

and that's why NASA is full of foreigner scientists

<< Comment #325 @ 05:35 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (69.47.192.216) - Reply to #314

you pulled that directly out of your ass

<< Comment #327 @ 05:51 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #325

its a fact that everybody knows

<< Comment #317 @ 02:23 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #287

99.9 % of NASA is foreigners.

<< Comment #329 @ 06:17 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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wrl - Reply to #317

So, just like the rest of the country, then?

<< Comment #336 @ 07:45 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Dird - Reply to #281

believing that a man in the sky created us all 4000 years ago isnt retarded?

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<< Comment #337 @ 07:56 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #336

Rapha might hear u :'(

<< Comment #359 @ 15:47 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #281

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11317176

<< Comment #360 @ 15:53 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #359

ye funny even with the best college and universities thanks to large fees for smart foreigners to teach the retards, your still full of retards.

<< Comment #361 @ 16:13 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #360

maybe so

<< Comment #364 @ 16:48 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #361

I am sorry for trolling, but my day today wasn't the best.
My gf broke up with me :'(

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<< Comment #371 @ 19:07 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #364

lol. a troll with feelings ;D

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<< Comment #384 @ 06:33 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #364

get a sympathy [+] and now get over it :p

<< Comment #285 @ 15:51 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Dynamix

SEEEEE ZEEEEE EMMMMM

<< Comment #289 @ 19:13 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Lave

nothing yet?

<< Comment #290 @ 19:18 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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kF - Reply to #289

http://www.quake-live.tv/live.php just came up

<< Comment #291 @ 19:24 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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f0rk123

lol at czm ping maths

<< Comment #292 @ 19:45 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #291

haha, i love his dry humour "i never played with this mouse, pants etc" "one sec i need to bind gl"

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<< Comment #295 @ 20:02 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #292

ahahhaa awesome

<< Comment #293 @ 20:01 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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gyr0

poor ziel is going to have a hard time

<< Comment #303 @ 20:41 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #293

It's all about having fun! But I won't go down without a fight!

<< Comment #309 @ 22:29 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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dCoy - Reply to #303

Poor ziel? His curly locks are gonna be flowing while he prances around the top tiers, taking top 3 in the American Championship.

<< Comment #365 @ 16:55 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Hito - Reply to #309

You are in for a surprise! =p

<< Comment #294 @ 20:01 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

czm
z
m

<< Comment #298 @ 20:10 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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wch

\o/ FUCK YEAH CZM \o/

<< Comment #299 @ 20:11 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Arcita

good to see czm playing again. hopefully he can get in better shape before the finals tho

<< Comment #301 @ 20:32 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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pks

Like holy shit the American Championship finals is going to be a kick ass tourny with this line up!

<< Comment #310 @ 23:16 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (71.98.220.93)

no shit! What kind of nostalgic nonsense is this? Reading Zero4, czm and Vo0 all in the same lineup -- wowzor.

<< Comment #311 @ 23:33 CDT, 15 September 2010 >>

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wch - Reply to #310

I love how you compared Vo0 to ZeRo4 and czm.

<< Comment #335 @ 07:22 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #311

true,

vo0 made way more money in fps than the other two did :P

<< Comment #351 @ 12:36 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #335

did cpl pay those prizes?

<< Comment #352 @ 12:38 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #351

don't know for sure, all I heard were rumors pretty much.

Not like mine was the most serious of replies, though ;)

<< Comment #313 @ 01:25 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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dorkiz

Hey what do you know? No Canadians made it...

<< Comment #318 @ 02:25 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #313

they have a life, unlike americans who play games all day long

<< Comment #321 @ 03:43 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #313

In SC2 Americans are kinda getting dominated by Canadians, though =)

<< Comment #330 @ 06:19 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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wrl - Reply to #321

Canadians are Americans, too!

<< Comment #339 @ 08:19 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Dird - Reply to #321

lmao @ canadian/american SC2

<< Comment #316 @ 01:54 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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GUArd

most of q3/ql tourneys always was in favor of europe, but atm USA lineup looks not bad too!
Good luck all players.

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chubz - Reply to #316

Yeah it's a nice lineup, although Vo0 puts thing into perspective.
These guys, rapha excluded, need 6 more months of hard training to tople over cypher and av3k, coller, killsen, stermy, strenx.

If you will, draw a parallel between fox and czm, z4, even Vo0.
Oldschool, but lacking compared to current top of ql.

That doesn't say anything about what will happen, just that chances are slim :)

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w0nk0 - Reply to #324

about a month back noone wouldve included killsen in that list. so its really stupid to say things like - o no they wont make it to the top 5 in an international tournament. u never know.

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rareh - Reply to #350

k1llsen got 2nd at eswc and won against cypher in european championship on 2010 groupstage(cypher won that).
He was never a really dedicated quake live player till recently(he has kids,wife etc).
czm hasn't won against a good player(rapha destroyed him and he is the only good na player) neither has z4(this year).
So other then rapha and MAYBE dahang(but he has been playing bad recently...), i don't see any NA except rapha getting top 3 at any international lan tournament where all the good players are there.

<< Comment #362 @ 16:18 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #355

yea and the last time z4 bothered to put in the work he was at a qcon finals vs cypher wasnt he? im just saying u can never tell with people like z4 and voo. not sure about czm tho.

<< Comment #363 @ 16:46 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #362

That was at beginning of QL when everyone was still learning how to jump and shoot.
Vo0 is from netherlands so he doesn't count as a American.

<< Comment #393 @ 14:20 CDT, 19 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (12.40.50.2) - Reply to #363

but for the past year hes been training with americans :P

<< Comment #367 @ 17:48 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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chubz - Reply to #350

About a month ago killsen wouldn't even show for a tournament :)
Killsen is exception that brakes the rules, like any good player. All i noticed that if they don't push their game further, they are gonna get stuffed.

czm vs sparks ping math comes to mind, since not that far back ago I remember cypher kicking a few players on a zotac cup with 90 ping :)

now that what I'm talking about.

bootcamp vs eu players is needed so the NA players that are getting wind beneath their wings could do something against eu players.

and again rapha, dahang excluded.

<< Comment #319 @ 03:17 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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ffx

Damn ESL should force at least the winner to upload their demos on the page. They aren't big and plenty of people would like to watch them,

<< Comment #320 @ 03:35 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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koekie

I just wondered how the brits would say czm's name.
They pronounce ztn as 'zed tee n' would they say 'see zed m'?

<< Comment #322 @ 04:00 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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foctis - Reply to #320

Nah, because it's pronounced as a word ('caesium' with a stressed 'em' as the last syllable). Whereas ztn is just a string of discrete letters.

(I'm not British, but we say 'zed' here, and spell colour with a U, etc.)

<< Comment #328 @ 06:04 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #322

why would you pronounce czm as a word?
its short for crezyman

Edited by noctis at 06:26 CDT, 16 September 2010

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wrl - Reply to #328

Yes, but crezy.

<< Comment #332 @ 06:26 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #331

idd

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foctis - Reply to #328

Never knew that, I thought it was short for caesium. Not sure why then, maybe it just flows together better? Either way, I treat ztn as letters and czm as sort of word-like, so I say 'zed' in one case and 'zee' in the other.

Also, maybe we treat it differently when it's a person's name. (I know ztn is probably the name of the guy who made the map, but to me it's just a map name.)

If I met a guy named Ben Zorrow, and he said 'but you can call me Bee Zee', I wouldn't call him Bee Zed. But if there was a company called Boston Zinc, I reckon I'd call it Bee Zed even if the head of the company said Bee Zee.

Edited by foctis at 18:53 CDT, 16 September 2010

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Lethe

i guess we will c-zm on lan.

i did it right there.

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<< Comment #333 @ 07:15 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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xterm - Reply to #323

Indeed you will :)

<< Comment #346 @ 09:30 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Anonymous (78.61.211.223)

grand winals vo0 vs rapha (i think :P)

<< Comment #347 @ 09:35 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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duumed - Reply to #346

would be awesome

<< Comment #341 @ 08:38 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Dird

what happened to dkt retirement plan after failing at quakecon?

<< Comment #342 @ 08:42 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #341

due to the economy the government has decided to increase the retirement age for gamers to 45.

<< Comment #344 @ 09:01 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Dird - Reply to #342

life is tough for a potato head

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<< Comment #374 @ 19:31 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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hnns - Reply to #342

meanwhile french and belgian gamers protest their governments plans to raise the gaming retirement age to 35

<< Comment #348 @ 11:06 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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kevz

czm vods? forgot to watch last night :(

<< Comment #349 @ 12:10 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Normalised - Reply to #348

http://www.own3d.tv/QuakeLiveTV

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<< Comment #354 @ 13:39 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #349

ty sir, have a plus :>

<< Comment #357 @ 14:59 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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FishStix

Direct link to Hektik match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DreDIhnK-co

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<< Comment #368 @ 18:14 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #357

this.is.awesome.

<< Comment #373 @ 19:25 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #357

"that's how you blow a 14 point lead"

<< Comment #375 @ 19:42 CDT, 16 September 2010 >>

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erok

czm wins!

<< Comment #377 @ 01:30 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

CZM looking much more impressive with this different computer setup n shit

<< Comment #380 @ 04:50 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

This whole thing seemed pretty boring until czm, z4, and voo got involved. Now it's more interesting than the catholics vs. the protestants... or is it the Irish vs. the British, I always forget?

NASA still kicks ass.

<< Comment #381 @ 04:57 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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Infuscomus

CZM match vs Sparks :

http://www.own3d.tv/video/32740/IEM5_AC_Group_Stage_czm_vs_sparks

Edited by Infuscomus at 05:00 CDT, 17 September 2010

<< Comment #383 @ 05:29 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #381

lmao :D

<< Comment #385 @ 06:39 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

It's just really fucked up that so much great stuff is out there, but so many people are still beheading each other... and England is still evil as shit. At least NASA continues doing really cool stuff.

Did you guys hear about this new scramjet system? Could revolutionize space-exploration.

<< Comment #389 @ 15:45 CDT, 17 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

Hopefully ID hired swelt to make maps full time. :) :) :)

<< Comment #390 @ 08:42 CDT, 18 September 2010 >>

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stunt.us

haha czm vs sparks

czm "i kind of like high ping" lol!

it was nice of iem to set up more tournies to get czm in the finals

<< Comment #394 @ 16:39 CDT, 19 September 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #390

Even if I don't agree with the logic of "well he's CZM he doesn't need to earn it"

He earned it now. A situation happened, and he did what he needed to do. Props to him. He deserves his spot.

<< Comment #396 @ 18:54 CDT, 20 September 2010 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #394

oh thanks for sharing that with me.

<< Comment #397 @ 21:47 CDT, 22 September 2010 >>

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zar4

lol its funny how bad some of these guys look compared to the top euros... only rapha and zero4 if he bothered to not charge into people, which i guess he will continue to do becuase he doesnt give a fuck anymore and just plays for fun, czm playing so bad makes me a sad man aswell, american scene is boring :(