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why was this news! wasnt drunk by any chance? ;)

it was my birthday lol

i know hence i asked if you was drunk .... i knew you would be xx

links to tactics and shit?

i dont know if i fully 'get' how the combos work? i meen i can do some but just wanna know if im doing it right or if theres more to it?

shoryuken wiki has some interesting info. so do the forums there. what exactly do you want to know? i read quite a lot about Street Fighter theory. i'm just too shit to put them to use.

when PC version comes out i'll make sure you'll whine about Dan being overpowered

rofl

Is dan in it?! $afe if he is.

yeah, with the most annoying English dub ever.. top tier right off the bat :D

you don't have a 360 by any chance?

nope.. only play on PC (ggpo etc.)

isn't the PC version using GGPO for online play if i'm not mistaken? i hope it does. i think i was pinging 700 to you and it was still "playable". GGPO's great even at that ping for fun games.

Nope, nobody from Capcom has ever said anything about GGPO being included in the PC version and Ponder wasn't even consulted for the console version, so I guess we are stuck with the shitty online.

Mildly OT: BlazBlue is being released on Summer too and lots of people assume it's going to use GGPO since some of the Aksys guys said they really wanted to use it.

I really hope they do and show Capcom how it's done :P

Capcom has actually talked about SF4 and GGPO:

Will the PC version of Street Fighter 4 use GGPO net code?

Sven: Also no. Sorry.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/feb/02/no-...-and-more/

Oh well, even worse :P

that's a pity because ggpo is really good.

bring more indians to ggpo. do it! ;<

oh i am :)

but they all wanna play 3rd Strike :S i will never understand why.

probably the daigo vid

the thing is there are so many videos of Daigo playing ST where he pulls of things that are much more impressive the 3s full parry video but they don't seem to understand when i show it to them. i guess you need to really play the game to understand.

url

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlpKqkKd2dM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vNFYa-8l7k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3mHP575NOk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2p6mOUywho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXw5juBNq1c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nmGxfvhyDw


the 2nd round vs Afrolegends and the Dhalsim beatdowns are very nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A7S7ST7nlY&fmt=18 (reverse OCV-ing Daigo's team)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyQTD02cQCE&fmt=18 (camping + blitzkrieg wins)

Komoda Blanka $$$

oh yea komoda pushes it to the limit. inhuman skills.

That blanka shit was crazy, so awesome :).

haaaa blanka wins against imba cunts RAWR!"

also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnglHThIsNc&feature=related

Thanks, cool stuff, not as awesome looking as the 3rd strike stuff though.

on the surface level yes 3rd strike is generally more flashy but the ST stuff is more impressive to me now that I have a fair understanding of the game. if i had to compare, it's kinda like a casual quake player looking at 3x rockets on dm17 and then watching unkind's prediction ground rockets which may not really grab him. most people on ESR however, would know what's harder to pull off.

in ST, even a simple 2 in 1 (something like crouching roundhouse followed by a hadouken right after) is harder to pull off than the same thing in 3rd strike as the timing is much tighter. i was playing 3rd strike with a friend yesterday who was pretty new to the game. he was still hitting some of the basic combos like punches canceled into shoryukens. he couldn't in ST which lead to "the game being shit".

To be honest I just can't take fighting games seriously, although lately I've been trying out some new stuff and falzzi has given me a lot of tips and explained some things to me (still gives me a dickins though B<) but one thing I always have to fight is trying to do the raging demon to finish someone off... what it all boils down to is if it doesn't look awesome it's not worth doing :D.

Y'know, like turning a full 360° before you rail someone.

It's a fighting game, not basketball.

play mahvel baybee! lez go

My bloodline is too pure for that game.

I couldn't bring anyone to ST either. Everyone wants to play 3s.
The reason is simple: ST seems too old!

3s seems much "newer" than st or a2. When I show a good st match to them, they won't even bother thinking about what's going on. They just go like:

"Holy hell, how can you play this crappy ugly game?! Why would I wanna play this old game while 3s is there?"

yup... and since 3s is pretty good by itself, they're all happy with it and don't feel like diving further into the world of Street Fighter.

it's too bad because ST is easily the best fighting game and one of the best games i've played. i started playing ST seriously only about 2 weeks ago and i've become a much better player overall than what i was after years of playing Alpha 3 or 3rd strike. i find the other games in the series give the player more room for mistakes. in an evenly matched ST game, you have to play your best every round.

ST ruined most of the other fighting games for me because of that :(, every round in ST is like the last minute of a tied match in Quake.

i know what you mean. even SF4 is dull in comparison.

so like, what's so good about it? you have to nail your combos to the ms? if that's all then, YAWN.

Actually, combos are much less important in ST than in any other fighting game.

What makes it stand out is the speed, pace and flow; the amount of strategy involved (it's unrivalled in this matter); the pressure of the game because of things like the high damage and the supers that change the game completely; the character variety, etc.

you might learn some of the strategies of ST in these tutorials made by David Sirlin (pro player and game designer).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCapuhsOMcg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dD3K2_Pz4&feature=related

on 360 the online games aren't laggy at all, obviously it depends the location were there from etc, but even playing yanks etc the matches have no apparent lag. I'm sure the PC version can develop dedicated servers unlike the xbox 360 so the connections should be even better, thats if you can do it for fighting style genres of cause, or is it direct connections and hosting.

Well, I can play EC players in GGPO with 0 delay, I can play all Europe in SFHD with 1 or 2 frames of *constant* delay, but I can barely play people near me in SF4 without lots of variable input delay messing everything up.

Not to say my connection is good or anything because I just moved to a place with terrible connections, even by Spanish standards, but the difference is huge.

in other words: you're too newb to notice input lag

there isnt any input lag trust me

I'm sure you, and many other people, don't notice or care about the variable input delay, but it's there and it can go reaaaally high, up to at least 15 frames.

wow, thats like timetravel

it wasn't too bad actually. sure you can't play serious matches at that ping, especially since fighting games require you to be accurate to the frame when doing certain moves but it was playable on a basic level. i couldn't pull off reversals or cancels/combos but didn't have any issues with easier stuff like hadoukens and supers.

ggpo vs 2dfighter.com? and why?

what? i use both.

still GGPO is better in the right conditions and on longer distances.

just wondering which is better.. only used ggpo a bit.

GGPO
+ best netcode
+ live spectating
+ savestates
+ best players
- overcrowded sometimes (can't initiate games)
+ http://ggpo.net/map/

2DF
+ more games
+ no interface bugs
+ replays
- worst kind of retards/scrubs
+ private messaging/ignore function

ty :)

i would like to add, its taken street fighter IV for me to become well not hardcore but more enduring playing the game, I mean ive spent up to 4 hours at a time playing online ranking matches. I was calling the game saying it would be dated and limited, but to my suprise the game still lives off a old fight lackluster style but the game mechanics and graphics engine make it very enjoyable to play. And the depth of tactics, setups, focus attacks and breaks make the game so much more fun.

The last 2 times I've tried GGPO it didn't work, that program is a waste of space now, as soon as 2df gets live spectating there'll basically be no comparison.

i can't get 2DF to work :/ it doesn't detect my games even though i've pointed it to the right folder.

A friend had that problem too... strange, rompath1 is set to the roms folder right? And you haven't done anything like extract the roms? Which games are you trying?

Here's both files for 3rd strike that work fine:
http://wadle.co.uk/sfiii3n.zip
http://wadle.co.uk/sfiii3.zip

yup i've got the same roms. tried 3rd strike and ST. just doesn't recognize them. dunno why. how is 2df netcode btw? i know that GGPO's is awesome but i've never gotten to playing a game in 2df.

It's great yeah, feels really good, can't say I've ever thought "FUCK YOU NETCODE", I've been playing with Finnish people, so about 80 ping, I only play people I know though so I haven't properly tested it.

Did you install .net 3.5 by the way? Maybe that's it, it'd be really fucking stupid if that was the issue though, that's the only thing that bothers me about 2df, all that .net shit.

Edit: saw some more advice that editing all 4 rom paths might help, try setting them all to the same directory.

yup. installed that as well. no luck.

A friend had this problem too, he fixed it by removing some trailing spaces in the rom path, have you checked to see if there's any on the end? Also make sure the path doesn't end with a \, dunno if it matters but mine doesn't at least.

sorry, but failure on your part doesn't make 2DF better

Failure? All my ports are forwarded, it just doesn't start games like you mentioned, seriously if we can get as far as challenging each other how the fuck does it manage to fail after that? Anything else should be peer to peer, live spectating should be a fucking secondary service and if during peak hours they can't sustain it then I think disabling it might be a better option than it just not working all together.

well then 2df is crap too cuz it doesn't work on my computer even though i've set everything up correctly ;)

but yea i agree that sometimes GGPO just doesn't work even though my ports are forwarded and i can get a ping reading from the player i'm trying to challenge. logging in again usually fixes this though.

Are you by any chance on Windows 7 or Vista?

I recently installed Windows 7 and when I tried to connect to other players in GGPO it would always desynch every second or it wouldn't connect at all.

I had to install Windows XP again just to play GGPO without any issues.

I used to be able to play 2DF but I think there is a problem with my ISP that doesn't allow me to connect to other players on 2DF.

One thing I noticed from playing on both 2DF and GGPO is that there is more input lag on 2DF but no actual lag with the connection. with GGPO its the other way around, no input lag at all but alot of times there is connection lag and it gets worse when players spectate you.

Nah, XP SP3.

well changing ISP helped with 2DF, now i can play again.

i found out why i couldnt play with windows 7 on ggpo, i had to add a line in my hosts file. now it runs perfect again.

he's not in the arcade version, but yes for PS3, 360, PC

lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCa1mF0gSh4&fmt=18#t=02m00s

Awesome zoning by Guile player starting at 2:42 :)