ESR - Sombra banned for life

<< Comment #1300 @ 02:43 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #1284

thanks :D

<< Comment #1474 @ 17:30 CST, 30 November 2009 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1

you are a first pic whore aren't you?

<< Comment #1476 @ 17:52 CST, 30 November 2009 >>

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brz - Reply to #1474

don't hate

<< Comment #1477 @ 17:53 CST, 30 November 2009 >>

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brz - Reply to #1474

altho this one is shit compared to potato

<< Comment #1626 @ 09:37 CDT, 2 October 2017 >>

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mcdaddysandwich - Reply to #1477

potato was best post I've seen on this site. even better than entry 36.

<< Comment #1586 @ 13:15 CDT, 23 August 2016 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #1

I fucking see what you did here.

<< Comment #10 @ 23:05 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (217.217.80.38.dyn.user.ono.com)

OMG!!

<< Comment #54 @ 02:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #10

OMG!

<< Comment #464 @ 12:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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stuntz - Reply to #10

Oh noes!

<< Comment #2 @ 21:41 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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judge717

hahahahah

<< Comment #3 @ 21:44 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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funnyb

wd, progamer.

<< Comment #4 @ 21:48 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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xero- '

egd

<< Comment #5 @ 22:17 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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luKrek

Typical spanish

Edited by luKrek at 09:09 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #27 @ 00:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #5

Yes the mexicans here are like this too

<< Comment #1132 @ 08:14 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #27

please think ikea man... and you will see that the most important cultures of the world were in Mediterranean....not barbarian people so don't be so racist about that... ;)

<< Comment #1169 @ 16:11 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #1132

It was more of a joke when I said that.

But there is a relationship there

<< Comment #154 @ 06:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #5

Typical what? Cmon -.-

<< Comment #195 @ 07:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #154

don't fall for such obvious trolls ;)

<< Comment #1131 @ 08:08 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #5

i'm sorry because i'm a spanish guy and i know most of us never used any cheat, so not nice for sombra to do that.

i say that because i don't like comments like typical Spanish because i played more than 10 years in spanish servers and i have to say that we are kind and no cheaters at all.

so please don't take fast conclusions about things, and try to focus to this person, not all spanish guys.

thanks.

<< Comment #1370 @ 17:51 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #1131

no no. We have definite proof that

ALL SPANISH PEOPLE CHEAT IN ONLINE GAMES ALL THE TIME.

<< Comment #1397 @ 09:23 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #1370

so i proof looking your dress that....

IN DEPTH, ALL THE SWEDES HAVE THE TENDENCY TO DRESS LIKE A WOMAN... ;)

Edited by _Rapid_ at 09:26 CDT, 30 October 2008

<< Comment #1418 @ 15:57 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (chello089074149240.chello.pl) - Reply to #1397

Raged like a Pole

<< Comment #1425 @ 05:51 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #1418

lol'd : D

<< Comment #6 @ 22:34 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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funnyb

gonna bump this til the day I'm bored of it.

Edited by funnyb at 02:14 CST, 6 March 2016

<< Comment #23 @ 00:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #6

We know you are good at that. =P

<< Comment #461 @ 12:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #6

Why's that? You don't seem to give a shit about trippy's hacking.

<< Comment #585 @ 21:08 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #461

precisely

<< Comment #715 @ 06:52 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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trippy - Reply to #461

probably because i never cheated :o) - but it's been over 2 years since you accused me so i'm a little over it now xD - see you at dreamhack lan? :o)

<< Comment #741 @ 08:25 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #715

That's why you accidentally admitted it to Hoens, Liam and fluid on Ventrilo and told pizz that you did. :o)

<< Comment #865 @ 12:10 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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trippy - Reply to #741

you are hilarious xD

<< Comment #945 @ 15:42 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #865

i love you and im your #1 fanboy (L)

<< Comment #1556 @ 19:39 CST, 13 February 2013 >>

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sonic - Reply to #865

rail0r �---DDDD

<< Comment #1030 @ 20:16 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #715

You just do this to troll, right? I need to know this so I can sleep at night.

<< Comment #1400 @ 13:15 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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SpunkyTheMonkey - Reply to #461

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

<< Comment #1515 @ 07:48 CST, 1 February 2012 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #6

lies

<< Comment #1516 @ 09:19 CST, 1 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1515

pies

<< Comment #1521 @ 09:46 CST, 27 February 2012 >>

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sonkje - Reply to #1516

the boy who lived... COME TO PIE

<< Comment #1581 @ 17:51 CST, 5 March 2016 >>

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d1z : - Reply to #6

lies

<< Comment #1582 @ 02:15 CST, 6 March 2016 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #1581

fix'd. <3

<< Comment #1583 @ 22:26 CDT, 20 July 2016 >>

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xou - Reply to #6

how about now ?

<< Comment #1584 @ 13:56 CDT, 4 August 2016 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #1583

no not yet..

<< Comment #1585 @ 17:00 CDT, 4 August 2016 >>

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firebot - Reply to #1583

No! These memories bring me nightmares...

<< Comment #1594 @ 09:41 CDT, 29 March 2017 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #1583

why not now.

<< Comment #1595 @ 10:25 CDT, 29 March 2017 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1594

Took many moments to load this thread and that's all you got? At least post a cool dog pic.

<< Comment #1596 @ 10:50 CDT, 29 March 2017 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #1595

that was NOT the deal

<< Comment #1597 @ 11:37 CDT, 29 March 2017 >>

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ProT : - Reply to #1596

But would be fair though.

<< Comment #7 @ 22:49 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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paulrrrr

hmm kind of shocking... pretty lame :/

<< Comment #8 @ 22:50 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

dumb

<< Comment #9 @ 23:04 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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Aaron

I always said the Spanish are the scum of the earth

<< Comment #11 @ 23:38 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #9

Jamerio in disguise?

<< Comment #990 @ 18:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #11

I like da spanish actually. They're a good colour and don't have any stupid looking traits which annoy me.

<< Comment #1014 @ 19:17 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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hnns - Reply to #990

i disagree, i' ve been to spain several times and always get the feeling everyone is really slow. But i don't blame them, it's impossible to be smart when it's 30� outside. The only temperature you can really be smart is around 0�, we all know that.

<< Comment #1517 @ 09:37 CST, 1 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1014

Not slow, just lazy and selfish.

<< Comment #1636 @ 22:34 CST, 27 February 2020 >>

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LOLatRoflexTimers ' - Reply to #1517

^^^ Funny seeing the pale aspies big-uping each other. Reality is that Marbella and other typically touristic places in Spain are filled with UK subhuman that should be kicked off the country for being actual scum.

<< Comment #1637 @ 02:25 CST, 29 February 2020 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1636

geez I wonder who built all those illegal urbanizations in the first place. also not sure where you get your versions of "reality" from but the actual "reality" is that majority of foreigners living in spain are civil, respectful and have been pumping vast amounts of shekels into the economy for 50 years. source: I lived there for 20 years

but yeah some of my comments from 8 years ago are pretty cringe I'll give you that.

<< Comment #1639 @ 08:41 CST, 29 February 2020 >>

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LOLatRoflexTimers ' - Reply to #1637

Magaluf, Gand�a, Salou, Lloret de Mar... the list of places plagued with UK drunktards never ends, get the fuck out of here with this "illegal urbanizations" bullshit, that's only in Marbella, and so what, does that justify that you import drunk idiots on there.

<< Comment #1640 @ 06:45 CST, 2 March 2020 >>

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harosh - Reply to #1639

As an english man that has travelled extensively around spain for over 40 years I can saw with some confidence that Lloret de Mar's problem is not with drunken brits enjoying their 2 weeks a year away from their drone bee lifestyle... the problem with Lloret de Mar in recent years has been the enormous influx of new folk showing up from africa.

I've been here close to alicante for that past few months and have visited benidorm a few times at the weekend to watch a stand up comic or good live band and enjoyed it despite their being loud and drunken folk on the streets at midnight from germany, holland, portugal, scotland, england, some from spain, austria, lots from italy... all happily being annoying drunks

spain is fine... in 3 months here this winter i've been out of my apartment maybe a dozen times for a night out - had fun

most days i just go shopping, do some work on the pc, get a coffee somewhere local and smoke a cigarette....

not all brits/tourists/northern europeans are animals... some are

<< Comment #1638 @ 02:26 CST, 29 February 2020 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1636

and ofc, being lazy and selfish are universal human traits, not just isolated to spain

<< Comment #25 @ 00:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lo - Reply to #9

is that the new mantra of the bnp?

(sarcasm, this time :D)

<< Comment #26 @ 00:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #25

i just want to see a ton of anon posters with spanish flags :(

<< Comment #35 @ 01:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lo - Reply to #26

i'll give u a [+], if you manage to rage one.

<< Comment #157 @ 06:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #9

Really nice from you :)

<< Comment #12 @ 23:38 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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spyteman

majored for lulz

<< Comment #40 @ 01:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #12

you could have fixed the typos! :P (i done it now)

<< Comment #42 @ 01:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #40

was part of the lulz :( now u ruined!

<< Comment #44 @ 01:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #42

again :'(

<< Comment #46 @ 01:49 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #44

it's ok :o

<< Comment #13 @ 23:46 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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Reyn1r

lulz

<< Comment #14 @ 23:52 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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fragmaster_

...

Edited by fragmaster_ at 23:52 CDT, 24 October 2008

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<< Comment #17 @ 23:55 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #14

your image isn't even approved yet, but im still gonna + you

<< Comment #18 @ 00:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #17

thank you!

<< Comment #21 @ 00:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #18

:>
you're welcome

<< Comment #15 @ 23:54 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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erok

lol wtf

<< Comment #16 @ 23:55 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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He-Man

The only thing more retarded than a cheater is a cheater who takes ss's of his cheats and sends them in.

<< Comment #19 @ 00:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #16

Typical Cheater brain-level imo.

<< Comment #31 @ 00:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #16

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA YES this is really retarded

<< Comment #20 @ 00:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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green

lmao, i fucking knew it.

also, eat a dick and die.

Edited by green at 00:06 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #22 @ 00:04 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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loveless

wasn't sombra like, well known or something?
iirc, he played in ESWC, at least one of the tournaments.

<< Comment #28 @ 00:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #22

likely got raped at gamegune

<< Comment #43 @ 01:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #28

Nah did not attend gamegune, not sure about eswc but I doubt he had much of a presence there.

<< Comment #56 @ 02:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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jal - Reply to #43

Sombra attended many CPL events, but years ago. I don't know about recently.

<< Comment #128 @ 05:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #56

Was talking about recently, and yeah I remember about Sombra's past. Training partner and fellow clan member of Akiles too.

So what I don't get is why he cheated considering the respectable past. Doesn't make sense... Perhaps he was fed up of training and wanted an easy way up?

<< Comment #364 @ 10:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #128

Yea, because internet is where its at right.

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Raist - Reply to #364

Serious business..

<< Comment #627 @ 03:30 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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murph - Reply to #367

raist for prez!

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Sa1cor - Reply to #22

Stop wasting your time on this and continue working on that second straferun you promised :)

<< Comment #24 @ 00:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK

Fucking loser.

<< Comment #29 @ 00:36 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zech

21%

<< Comment #30 @ 00:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ashr

this may well be the biggest self ownage in the history of the internets.

Edited by ashr at 00:56 CDT, 25 October 2008

60%

<< Comment #33 @ 01:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #30

can't see your image yet either, but i'll + you too

<< Comment #36 @ 01:08 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #33

heh

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ashr - Reply to #30

and...

Edited by ashr at 01:48 CDT, 25 October 2008

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loveless - Reply to #45

+'ing this one too
:D

<< Comment #628 @ 03:32 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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murph - Reply to #47

+ whore. :>

<< Comment #650 @ 04:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #628

at least im good at something
without cheating :D

<< Comment #855 @ 11:51 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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murph - Reply to #650

amen to that, brother.

<< Comment #1007 @ 18:42 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sudstah - Reply to #30

i like this very much! very nostalgic!

<< Comment #32 @ 00:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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_agu

shocked.

<< Comment #34 @ 01:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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koji

some brah got caught

<< Comment #37 @ 01:23 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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stnk

wtf is a radarcheat?
btw. quite smart to send this screens...

<< Comment #1185 @ 18:42 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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manic - Reply to #37

Shows a little radar of where your enemy is in relation to your position. Uuuum or so I've heard :P

<< Comment #1518 @ 06:05 CST, 24 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L - Reply to #1185

That's right, I've actually seen this being used on a LAN (Quake 3). Fun trivia is that it is the only time I've seen cheats being used in a Quake game whereas I've seen cheats in Counter-strike more times then I can count.

<< Comment #38 @ 01:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic

This community just gets better and better.

<< Comment #39 @ 01:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Burpy

I just noticed he won both games by only one frag... ^_^

<< Comment #48 @ 01:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #39

no wonder he needed the cheats

<< Comment #41 @ 01:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist

Wow did not see that coming.

Way to own yourself ahaha

<< Comment #50 @ 02:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ibuWan

Who is "fire bot" on those screens?
*SombrAbruti* as we say in France ^^

<< Comment #51 @ 02:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #50

him maybe?

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ibuWan - Reply to #51

I meant... "fire bot" is not the one we first think of ;)

<< Comment #49 @ 02:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (80.233.147.119)

made my day. pictures in tact.

<< Comment #52 @ 02:14 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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godjiro

Don't forget to remind Sombra every fucking time you see him play. What an idiot.

<< Comment #53 @ 02:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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phz

I could tell from one screenshot :)

<< Comment #55 @ 02:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #53

You must be twice as smart as the rest of us then.

<< Comment #57 @ 02:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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tyas

I think he is using ESR Dollar Cheat too. You were my favourite player in q3 and i cant understand why you do that. You have that skill and oyu dont need this shit stuff.

Another thing is that you are well known since the beginning of quake 3. You ruined that all in 1 second..... nice....

Every new good player from spain have problems now to be well know cause everyone is thinking that is your new nick.

<< Comment #58 @ 03:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Drexciyian

Hmm i remember playing hsi clan in 2000, they had 150ms and owned us, we called them cheats guess we were right lmao

<< Comment #85 @ 04:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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dallow - Reply to #58

Na i doubt it, most of them are skilled players such as Akiles etc.

<< Comment #59 @ 03:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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.syL

He can still play in cpmpickup, we don't care if someone cheats as long as it's not in a pickup game

<< Comment #60 @ 03:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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kaboom

shame

<< Comment #61 @ 03:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ted

someone didn't think their cunning plan all the way through

selfowned. gg

<< Comment #383 @ 10:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #61

why you raising my avg brah

<< Comment #495 @ 13:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ted - Reply to #383

hehe

<< Comment #64 @ 03:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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TdM

Why cheat Sombra?

<< Comment #62 @ 03:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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nekon

prolly drank his oktoberfest winnings before sending screens

<< Comment #63 @ 03:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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gastfreund

Without even knowing this Sombra guy I am perfectly sure that he is a good person with a just character. To upload screenshots which easily show your hacks is so much of an unconscient wish to get caught that it hurts. In his subconcious mind he must wanted to get caught which makes him a better person then ~90% of the readers here and probably mankind at all. Cheers!

<< Comment #66 @ 03:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #63

Yes I completely also thieves who leave a fingerprint are much better people than those who wouldn't ever steal!

25%

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vkl - Reply to #66

hahaha n1 [+]

<< Comment #229 @ 08:13 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #66

roflstomp!

<< Comment #67 @ 03:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #63

He's a great guy and a very good player with great achievements on LAN. In real life he owns and he doesn't need any wallhack. He is trustworthy and nice for most of the Spanish gamers. Cheers

Edited by OmeN_ at 03:54 CDT, 25 October 2008

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light - Reply to #67

i dont know anyone that needs wallkhack in real life :(

<< Comment #206 @ 07:44 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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anal justice - Reply to #75

I do. Imagine all the pussibilities... :)

<< Comment #311 @ 09:20 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #206

pussibilities lmao:D

<< Comment #77 @ 04:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #67

what would wallhack in real life mean? like, david copperfield?

<< Comment #127 @ 05:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #77

roofies

<< Comment #172 @ 06:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #77

The "Nacktscanner"

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyi-BbKI8gE

<< Comment #429 @ 11:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #77

David Copperfield doesn't wallhack, he noclips.

<< Comment #81 @ 04:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #67

do you think him getting so remarkably good has something to do with the cheating?

<< Comment #71 @ 03:59 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #63

hey sombra!

<< Comment #88 @ 04:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #63

hardcore denial right here

<< Comment #68 @ 03:54 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

well...

Edited by Lethe at 03:55 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Lan-Di

And i always thought he was a pwnage player.... NOT!! Why man?

Anyway... This cheating stuff reminds me of this old 'cheater on lan' video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZmuUGY-sZ0

Edited by Lan-Di at 04:03 CDT, 25 October 2008

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vkl

poor

Edited by vkl at 03:58 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #72 @ 04:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

lol i was in spec on that hub and didnt notice =(

i seriously failed at sherlocking.

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vkl - Reply to #72

don`t worry i was speccing both maps and didn`t see it :P

mhhh and i thought they should invite him to a big tourney, well not anymore

<< Comment #180 @ 07:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #72

i spectated @ shiny topaz and noticed 100 times :)
then played with sombra 1st frienldy game, noticed, no skill player , just with autoaim (using sometimes) and wallhack, after that played more 1-2 times ( in half year) to see if he still using it, and guess, he did :))
after words in irc to him " nice played , good rail and some strange moves" , he told "yeah some ppl think that im cheating , buuuut look demo from 2001 from lan and you will see that i`m not cheating!" , man with normal brains, after these words could understand 99% that man is cheating :)

Edited by GUArd at 07:03 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #261 @ 08:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #180

dont think he uses autoaim, at least not in the tournament games i spectated

<< Comment #554 @ 16:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #261

he did :) check vs fb demo @ ztn, then he jumps on RL jumpad and fb comes from shards 0.5 s was turned autoaim, later then fb jumped on ra. more in this match i didnt noticed autoaim (was eating and watching :D ), but just autoshot :) and maybe few times wh , then he jumped down to mega and shooter rocket :) (was eating :D )

<< Comment #1087 @ 04:22 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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jal - Reply to #554

I think you don't know what you're talking about, tbh.

<< Comment #1094 @ 04:59 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #1087

relax, i do :)

<< Comment #1099 @ 05:21 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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jal - Reply to #1094

No you don't ;) And I'm not a Sombra defender, I'm not in need of relaxing ;)

<< Comment #1126 @ 07:33 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #1099

explain where i don`t understand what i`m talking about?

<< Comment #74 @ 04:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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outlaw

LOL

54%

<< Comment #79 @ 04:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #74

man, your lol makes it even worse, haahhahaha

<< Comment #80 @ 04:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #74

he LULZ because this is like a one in a million thing for walter that`s he is smarter then another guy.....cause walter didn`t get exposed as a cheater so far

<< Comment #87 @ 04:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Adel - Reply to #80

At this level i'll rather use less dumb then smarter :)

<< Comment #412 @ 11:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #80

HAHAHAHAHA

<< Comment #581 @ 20:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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waIter - Reply to #74

2Walter

LOL???

the FBI will start hunt for us (me and you, cheaters) after this!!! hurry up, pack your stuff, change the name and move to another city (or better country, zabmia will be nice choise)... beacause payback is under its way(((

<< Comment #1200 @ 04:03 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #581

sadly you lack the intelligence to be even remotely funny while trying to impersonate walter. just give up, please? :(

<< Comment #1404 @ 15:24 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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waIter - Reply to #1200

you trying to say that walter so fancy so far that even his left part of brain (me) not so impressive?

<< Comment #78 @ 04:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Gladius

what a sad day. why sombra, why?? you were the last one whom I would suspect of cheating =((. pls explain this man, that's the least you could do for the quake scene.

<< Comment #82 @ 04:09 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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qahdrk

people are skilling on notime lately, and believe me he is not the only one to leave people with questions

<< Comment #83 @ 04:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #82

is the last word a hint?

<< Comment #271 @ 08:53 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #83

dont think that question was a hint, rather a thought-provoking impulse.
besides that, it could take forever to spot all cheaters. you will see hell frozen over, before you will see q3 wihtout cheats.
best reguards, nukm

<< Comment #291 @ 09:04 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #271

the clock is ticking

<< Comment #307 @ 09:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #291

and you must be crazyman not to feel it.

<< Comment #346 @ 09:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #307

When the cheats are gone life will be so much cooller

Edited by svalur at 09:54 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #348 @ 09:49 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #346

yeah, no more evil people, everyone has a chance

<< Comment #351 @ 09:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #348

But I guess life is just too unkind

Edited by svalur at 09:55 CDT, 25 October 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #346

You guys were speaking riddles, anyway you guys could decypher that for me?

<< Comment #575 @ 18:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #359

i'd give it a shot but i gotta go feed my pet python... sorry.

Edited by ashr at 18:33 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #633 @ 04:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #575

it's just too hard to catch cheaters, they are like phantoms

<< Comment #842 @ 11:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #633

Or you can just let it starve to death

<< Comment #642 @ 04:18 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #575

i have a turtle called Raphael.

<< Comment #677 @ 05:27 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #642

Make sure you don't feed him anything toxic.

<< Comment #835 @ 11:07 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #642

He could be friends with my Rat

<< Comment #844 @ 11:29 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #835

That's not a rat it's a fox

Edited by becks at 11:29 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #864 @ 12:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #844

looks more like a funnybunny

<< Comment #974 @ 17:32 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #864

no, too small and weak I think it's a wombat

<< Comment #1020 @ 19:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #974

if it was small and red it could have been a tomato

<< Comment #1026 @ 20:10 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1020

If it was big and red it could be a lobster

<< Comment #1027 @ 20:10 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1026

If it was fat it could be a member of parliamment :/

<< Comment #1029 @ 20:16 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #1027

i'm pretty sure it's an animal. maybe some sort of dragon!

<< Comment #1075 @ 03:42 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #1029

Not matter what it is, Sylvester Stallone could kick its butt!

Edited by .syL at 03:43 CDT, 27 October 2008

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doYdY - Reply to #1075

Surely it will end in a Fatality

<< Comment #1316 @ 08:46 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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stier - Reply to #1133

Stop talking tresh!

<< Comment #1486 @ 07:10 CDT, 13 July 2010 >>

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wrl - Reply to #1316

Failure.

<< Comment #1541 @ 19:20 CST, 6 December 2012 >>

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sober - Reply to #1486

i want to be a raphaer and sell records

<< Comment #84 @ 04:14 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #82

i can totally agree

<< Comment #533 @ 16:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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meh_ - Reply to #82

LOL :DDDD

<< Comment #1643 @ 12:41 CDT, 1 April 2022 >>

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Meph1stoo + - Reply to #82

This aged well

<< Comment #86 @ 04:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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dallow

I am really shocked about this, I met Sombra at covlan and he was a nice guy :(

<< Comment #97 @ 04:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #86

you can be nice and dumb !!

<< Comment #110 @ 05:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #97

!

Edited by n1ghty at 05:21 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #89 @ 04:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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filo

i bet he edited the pictures and then his girlfriend send out the originals cuz he wasnt puttin' out for her.

... idd this must be the case i can not explain this dumbness in any other way. :>

<< Comment #90 @ 04:40 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (98.pool85-49-130.dynamic.orange.es)

lmao @ sombra

<< Comment #91 @ 04:40 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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CAREEM

fuk ye! Ban lame cheaters! As far as I remember he got ass raped at every lan event. But online he was "good" wonder why? *bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaannnnn*

<< Comment #92 @ 04:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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n1ghty

Satan delivers

<< Comment #99 @ 05:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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JCK - Reply to #92

;DDD

Edited by JCK at 05:05 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #93 @ 04:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

seriously, how stupid can you be?

i mean, if he used this hack a million times already , he would already get used to turning if off before doing a manual screenshot, cause every game in qqc you need to send a screenshot.

maybe it was the first time, and he didnt know it would appear on the pic.

Edited by Lethe at 04:45 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Legie - Reply to #93

It was 1st time ... and yes its really sad :|

<< Comment #104 @ 05:08 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #98

you talked to him?

<< Comment #94 @ 04:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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duumed

:D

<< Comment #95 @ 04:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Putton

poor sombra, talk to my nick :)

<< Comment #96 @ 04:54 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv

where is sombra???

can someone ITW him to know why he send this screen !! like a fucking DUMB!!
pls we wanna know how he can be dumb !!
maybe he think quake 3 is life ?

<< Comment #101 @ 05:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #96

i dont know ... some peaoples told me about wrong screes on irc.. and i was schocked ...
i asked him to go on IRC and he said:

(00:50:31) (@XXX) i am surprised about that
(00:50:41) (@XXX) sombra says now
(00:50:41) (@Legie) me too :|
(00:51:02) (@XXX) that if you publish that on ESR he will take legal actions
(00:51:08) (@XXX) against you
(00:51:08) (@XXX) o_O

39%

<< Comment #103 @ 05:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #101

k, that one is really good :DDDDDDD

remembers me of another person ... he is called f1nally! :D

<< Comment #140 @ 06:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #103

haha :>

<< Comment #926 @ 14:43 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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doctr1ne - Reply to #140

:x

<< Comment #105 @ 05:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #101

legal actions based on 2 pictures he sent by himself?

sombra should watch more of those ally mcbeal lawyer tv-shows.

<< Comment #106 @ 05:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #101

LOL I want to see the lawyer that takes an international case of serious internet business!

<< Comment #114 @ 05:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #101

omg

"that if you publish that on ESR he will take legal actions..."

It's a joke ?

did he know it's only a fungame for gamer playing for fun :D

<< Comment #117 @ 05:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #101

im reaaly angry, i like sombra....and now i feel dumb like him:x

<< Comment #118 @ 05:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #101

ahahaha, what a failnerd

<< Comment #125 @ 05:40 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #101

best ever :D GOGO SOMBRA CALL ZE POLICE

<< Comment #131 @ 05:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #101

HAHAHAHAHA

This lolcow is going to provide the e-village with lulz for years to come, we can finally survive the lmao-winter.

BEST GET MILKIN' BOYS

         (__)  
         (. .)  
  /-------\o<===8          
 / | LOL ||  
*  ||----||  
   ^^    ^^

Edited by Liam at 05:58 CDT, 25 October 2008

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kAi^ - Reply to #131

this is how i feel right about now.... lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuu-iaNUs0M

<< Comment #134 @ 05:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #101

That sounds too dumb to be true! Still funny though :D

<< Comment #168 @ 06:44 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zashael - Reply to #101

Maybe his lawyer is Lionel Hutch :(

Edited by zashael at 06:45 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Gladius - Reply to #168

you obviously mean Miguel Sanchez ;)

<< Comment #266 @ 08:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zashael - Reply to #248

no :(

<< Comment #484 @ 13:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #266

i'm sure the real simpsons fans get this joke =)

<< Comment #417 @ 11:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #101

well.. if he brings that to a cort every single people on esr can defend Legie innit

<< Comment #1057 @ 23:49 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #101

Oh my. I thought we hit the bottom when I first read the news.
Where will it stop ?

<< Comment #100 @ 05:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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reyu

I guess fire_bot is feeling a bit angry atm :>

<< Comment #102 @ 05:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #100

as long, as he gets his game-points, why should he be angry? now he knows, that he would have won both games (maybe with ease). i wouldnt be angry, more likely happy :)

<< Comment #191 @ 07:23 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #100

Most likely, as the cheating was cought when reporting their match, fire_bot would get the win as default :P?

<< Comment #613 @ 01:08 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #100

i'd be happy to get close games against a cheater and having the SS be seen by lots of ppl :)

<< Comment #116 @ 05:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (pppoe-88-147-184-213.san.ru)

what is my beer?
magic/hack

<< Comment #135 @ 05:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #116

Where*

<< Comment #107 @ 05:15 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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fjorgyn

"Kirk Lazarus: Like the dumbest mother fucker that ever lived."

<< Comment #119 @ 05:28 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #107

loved that movie, for being the funny low brain comedy that I need sometimes

<< Comment #184 @ 07:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #119

u need it cuz ur low brain lmao :(

<< Comment #224 @ 08:09 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #184

:(

at least someone understands my problem :(

<< Comment #432 @ 11:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #224

takes a low braen to understand one

<< Comment #477 @ 12:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #432

yes, you understand <3

<< Comment #108 @ 05:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

I BLAME WALTER!1

<< Comment #115 @ 05:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.pool85-49-143.dynamic.orange.es)

I see from the brackets of the tourney that he played against magic/hack and fire_bot, maybe he got paranoid, who can blame him?

<< Comment #132 @ 05:53 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #115

gb2 bed sombra

<< Comment #109 @ 05:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold

03:12 CAT 29 Aug 2008 MarzenGold 2823 70% Lose 4032
Fixture: (Lost) D3porte: SombrA vs Nike - Nike

:(

<< Comment #111 @ 05:23 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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holden

I guess he found a good way to quit! Always told myself if I were to quit a game, getting caught cheating would be the best way to stir up maximum drama and be sure never to come back again!

<< Comment #373 @ 10:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #111

Except we wouldn't care if you did it. =P

<< Comment #112 @ 05:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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[DOA]XiLLy

lol at cheating and winning by ONE frag on both maps.

<< Comment #120 @ 05:28 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #112

is that huge square the radar?

also: how do you spot wallhack on those screens?

<< Comment #123 @ 05:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #120

fire_bot's nick @mh on ztn and around ra on hub

<< Comment #188 @ 07:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #123

thanks for clearing that up, extra worthy of a plus for finding a post that replied to the wrong person.

<< Comment #1372 @ 20:57 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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wocK_ - Reply to #123

oo i see it now :)

<< Comment #124 @ 05:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #120

can see player names through walls

<< Comment #113 @ 05:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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link

hahah oh wow

<< Comment #121 @ 05:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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tifu

EPIC FAIL

Edited by rudy at 05:31 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #122 @ 05:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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yardy

LOL

<< Comment #130 @ 05:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (67.159.44.138)

hmmm

sombra = puta
linkin = cunt
noctis r-tard

fuck miel, fuck france

// tyfoon from [TA]

<< Comment #145 @ 06:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #130

what's the point of your post ? showing your maturity again ?

<< Comment #146 @ 06:20 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #130

stupid guy (even if it's perhaps a troll).

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 06:21 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #158 @ 06:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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link1n - Reply to #130

omg typhoon where are youuuu!!!!!!! I MISS YOUR -60 net in tdm :((

<< Comment #179 @ 07:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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xoji - Reply to #130

What the hell is a puta. You puta.

<< Comment #441 @ 11:44 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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V1R7U4L - Reply to #179

puta = whore

<< Comment #126 @ 05:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Liam

Looks like I'm a little late and I know it's been said before, but I'd just like to express my feelings:

feelings

Edited by Liam at 05:47 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #138 @ 05:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #126

was hoping for a pic. =(

<< Comment #129 @ 05:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Alchemist03

lol - sombra absoulutly nothing for me never think thAt he is good but WHAT A NEWS - PSV CHEATER WUAAAA - that i was shocked

<< Comment #133 @ 05:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #129

i patiently waited for you to post in this thread
now i can go to sleep

<< Comment #208 @ 07:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Alchemist03 - Reply to #133

you wainting? and what how many points for that post - hey brain and honor of our age

38%

<< Comment #374 @ 10:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #208

*twitch*

<< Comment #535 @ 16:08 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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meh_ - Reply to #208

wat

<< Comment #571 @ 17:50 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #208

i hope you never learn proper english
you're a fucking goldmine in every sense of the word
god bless you nelson muntz

<< Comment #1294 @ 19:14 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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wch - Reply to #571

HAHAHA AMEN

<< Comment #1295 @ 19:44 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #571

lol
I have read through this thread like a million times now, so how in the hell could I've missed Alchemist03's posts? That is fucking hilarious.

<< Comment #137 @ 05:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (62.57.250.127.dyn.user.ono.com)

rofl, sombra ur pathetic

<< Comment #136 @ 05:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (host21-26-static.34-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it)

[IMG]http://gilbz.files.wordpress.com/2006/09/haha.jpg[/IMG]

<< Comment #156 @ 06:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #136

Double fail.

<< Comment #139 @ 06:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zashael

lmao

<< Comment #160 @ 06:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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in_da_svalka

he he he

<< Comment #141 @ 06:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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noxene

self-owned

Edited by noxene at 07:54 CDT, 25 October 2008

45%

<< Comment #1435 @ 20:40 CST, 2 November 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #141

cancer

<< Comment #1437 @ 09:34 CST, 3 November 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #1435

die

<< Comment #142 @ 06:16 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini

I always knew Akiles was the king of Spain!

Anyways, Miel is a bunch of dickless transexuals!

<< Comment #143 @ 06:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #142

What's the link between Sombra and miel ?!

<< Comment #147 @ 06:20 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #143

maybe he expressed 2 different unrelated statements =(

<< Comment #149 @ 06:22 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #147

Read upper, tyfoon mentioned miel aswell ; I'm not getting it :)

<< Comment #176 @ 06:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #149

Tyfoon made me think of miel so I made a second unrelated remark.

Edited by svalur at 06:58 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #226 @ 08:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #176

lets start some rumors:

When sombra didn't play for miel he often fakenicked as czech player in [TA]!

<< Comment #144 @ 06:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

EDIT : ~~Does~~ Did ESR ~~has~~ enough investigated before publishing a news like that ?
:o)

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 06:32 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #148 @ 06:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #144

does has ftw tbh

<< Comment #152 @ 06:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #144

yea? he sent the screenshots himself?

<< Comment #155 @ 06:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #144

i think esr is a pretty cool guy. eh posts screenshots and doesnt afraid of anything

<< Comment #163 @ 06:36 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #144

Posted by Legie

I guess you wanna ask him

<< Comment #170 @ 06:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #163

An ITW of sombra should be great, but to only have the POV from Legie is not enough imho.

You know the power of "image", I can do everything with photoshop. From who are these screenshot (I mean, which computer => sombra one or an other one ?).

We need more explanations... that just only 2 screens.

<< Comment #200 @ 07:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #170

Sombra sent the screenshots to Legie.

<< Comment #150 @ 06:22 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Putka

Punkbuster couldnt detect that ? Demos maybe uploaded and checked few times ?

<< Comment #151 @ 06:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #150

what is punkbuster?

<< Comment #161 @ 06:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #151

You don't know who is punkybuster ? o_O

http://www.organizingla.com/photos/uncategori...er_dvd.jpg

<< Comment #196 @ 07:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #161

i've heard of it, its a myth apparently, about a program that should detect cheats, but always fails.

<< Comment #165 @ 06:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Weird ' - Reply to #151

something that lags your quake, and claims to keep away cheats... it never does though

<< Comment #162 @ 06:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #150

punkbuster is disabled everyhwere

<< Comment #199 @ 07:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #162

its ogc 3.0 from ~2001 years, they still working on PB 1 :) i sended these cheats to someone from CPMA stuff, to make some antialias for THESE cheats, coz i saw just 2 types of chetas for q3, and 90% are these..

<< Comment #1172 @ 16:59 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #199

you can tell the brand of cheats by specin people's pov? god damn you're good.

Edited by tourist at 17:03 CDT, 27 October 2008

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GUArd - Reply to #1172

OGC 3.0
Online Gaming Cheats Quake3 Client Bot
Copyright (C) 2002-2003 noskill

<< Comment #159 @ 06:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (i59F7A141.versanet.de)

what a n00b....and now please ban all xerp-wannabes too!

<< Comment #164 @ 06:40 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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xou

We should have a "Hall of Shame" (like on CB) for this kind of news : ]

<< Comment #166 @ 06:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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schulz

ROFL genius =)

<< Comment #167 @ 06:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel

Well... after reading most of the posts I'm not really sure what to say. I suposse that if you've published this and players like fox and k1llsen agree is because you really have proofs about it, but still I'm a bit shocked about it. I mean, I've seen Sombra playing in LAN a lot of times against ppl as Akiles and many good spanish players and he's never used aimbots or any kind of cheats. I'm not saying because he's a friend of mine of sth like that cos he's not but he's always beeen a fair player, a bit subborn and arrogant but not a cheater. I really hope this is a mistake, not only for Sombra but also for the comunity, if players after almost 10 years of Q3 are still able to cheat, this game would become pointless.

Besides, all those racist posts... all that prove is ignorance, so shame on you guys.

<< Comment #169 @ 06:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #167

LOL

<< Comment #171 @ 06:49 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #169

There is too much wallhack in your game crv. I can see the clouds through the ROFLOCOPTER !!!

You must be banned all your life from gaming community !

<< Comment #187 @ 07:16 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zashael - Reply to #167

I agree on that racist crap :(

<< Comment #273 @ 08:53 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #187

Spanish isn't a race it's a nationality, so stop your crying.

<< Comment #319 @ 09:28 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zashael - Reply to #273

Im not crying :x

<< Comment #392 @ 10:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (38.112.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) - Reply to #273

I think you might want to read up on the definitions of race and racism mate. Race has more meanings than the biological one.

<< Comment #594 @ 22:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #392

"A race is a competition of speed, against an objective criterion, usually a clock."

<< Comment #977 @ 17:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #392

No. I think you're referring to the word 'stereotype' which is related yet different from racism.

Stereotype- Blanket beliefs and expectations about members of certain groups that present an oversimplified opinion or prejudiced attitude. They go beyond necessary and useful categorizations and generalizations in that they are typically negative, are based on little information and are highly resistant to change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_human_beings)

I actually don't even care what you think, and I'm ashamed of myself for wasting 30 seconds of my life responding to you.

<< Comment #498 @ 14:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ted - Reply to #273

race = Homo Sapien Sapien

<< Comment #566 @ 17:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lejmer - Reply to #498

Nah. You mean "species". Race is a "subspecies". In other words, a large group of said species, with biological differences.

<< Comment #198 @ 07:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #167

i really wanna know why he use a cheat like that :x

PLS yazabel ITW him !

<< Comment #201 @ 07:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #167

Hi Yetz,
So the screens are the screens - you still belive this? iam sad too but what can i do?
There are tourneys with prizes and we must resolve it

<< Comment #457 @ 12:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #167

a more useful post would include naked pics

what racism btw?

<< Comment #178 @ 06:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (90.162.224.130)

Thank you SombrA.
Cheers.

<< Comment #177 @ 06:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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tyas

yeah Yezabel thats the reason why i dont understand that he do that.... WHY

<< Comment #173 @ 06:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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wata

obviously only the top of the iceberg

<< Comment #174 @ 06:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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DiGiTiZ

nice catch, dumbass sends the proof ^^

<< Comment #175 @ 06:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

Just a thing, I just wanna LOL about the "Banned for life" :o)

Sombra will rename himself Mom bra, and will continue to play Quake.

<< Comment #181 @ 07:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Vo0

Sombra wtf... I can't believe this, I don't want to believe this. ;(

<< Comment #183 @ 07:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #181

I agree :(

<< Comment #182 @ 07:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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xoji

Out of interest. How did Fox, K1llsen, Thrawn, Dash1 help discover that this was a cheat?

<< Comment #185 @ 07:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #182

http://quakequickcup.com/index.php?page=duel2_match2

<< Comment #189 @ 07:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #185

And ? They discovered together the sceenshots of Sombra ?

"those show and prove he was using a wallhack and a radar cheat."

I never used Wallhack (I never saw what it looks like ingame, except on some movies), and even less a RADAR (I never heard about this cheat).

But on the 2 Sombra's (or not) screens, how can you detect the wallhack ?!? o_O

And how killsen, fox, and so on, know the existence of the radar cheat. Did they already used of it to know what it looks like ?? (ok, ok, you don't have to taste shit, to know that shit is bad taste... erh, who already tried here ?)

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 07:24 CDT, 25 October 2008

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vedic - Reply to #189

You don't have to use it to know what it looks like. There have been videos and screenshots of it in action for years.

The radar box in that screenshot is unmistakable.

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #194

"You don't have to use it to know what it looks like"

Yeah, I know, (that's why I added a tip about shit :-), and about wallhack I said that I saw it on several movies, but on those screenshot I didn't saw it clearly... But I found the answer upper => "fire_bot's nick @mh on ztn and around ra on hub "

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 07:36 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #204 @ 07:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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fox - Reply to #182

Heh, I dunno why I am credited. All I said was that radar is indeed a part of OGC.

<< Comment #209 @ 07:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #204

in spain, you have the right to know where your opponent is all the time.

<< Comment #213 @ 07:53 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #209

Shut up you ignorant :)

<< Comment #238 @ 08:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #213

whoah!

<< Comment #481 @ 13:16 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Drexciyian - Reply to #204

How'd you know?? CHEAT

<< Comment #288 @ 09:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (catv54035A80.pool.t-online.hu) - Reply to #182

Hi! I discovered first the screens. I don't know Sombra, I don't even follow duel tourneys. I just checked the screens and realised the huge radar on it. I know it's part of OGC, because I tried it offline. First time I wasn't impressed of the cheat, I was impressed because of this situation (Someone cheating, then send the proving screens...), so I showed the reportpage to fire_bot and Legie. Anyway I'm almost sure he used this shit, if he doesn't he should show us the "real" match screens. I really hope he got them ; ). Tbh it's not the first time a "high" skilled player get caught with it. We all remember Satan :D.

//Regards dash

<< Comment #193 @ 07:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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sch.

GJ !

cheater is a cheater and i dont care how he playing on lan :QQQ

<< Comment #197 @ 07:28 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #193

+1

<< Comment #186 @ 07:13 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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amOKchen

Kinda sad that you would try to cheat in quake.

<< Comment #190 @ 07:22 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

Edited by mefajpE^ at 07:24 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #192 @ 07:23 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (80.251.192.2)

it doesnt matter if a player performances good on LAN events, he still may use cheats on Internet. It was the same with kuben who now plays CS for Meet Your Makers. He was caught cheating in an online tournament. fu cheater

<< Comment #202 @ 07:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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crv

can someone send all this post to punkbuster staff to remove it to all serv

<< Comment #496 @ 13:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #202

hahahahahahahahaha

omg :DDDDDDDD

hahahahahahahahahahaha

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllol.

e: ignore me, been awake for almost 30h.

Edited by spyteman at 13:57 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #257 @ 08:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (p54A26615.dip.t-dialin.net)

i blame crv.

<< Comment #205 @ 07:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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exp!

funny shit

and of course he's not the only one :)

Edited by exp! at 07:43 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #207 @ 07:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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fox

If punkbuster actually found cheats and it didn't lagg players to hell (so we would actually enable it), we might be able to avoid things like this. Cheaters only cheat because they think they can get away with it.

<< Comment #309 @ 09:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #207

to be honest i think "pb lag" is really overblown. i never get lag from pb, only at the very start when i connect. sometimes the server is just setup badly, including the pb settings maybe.

<< Comment #322 @ 09:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #309

And some people don't notice 30fps vs 60fps vs 120fps.

<< Comment #335 @ 09:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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cbkkk_ - Reply to #309

ive been to a pb server only for a handful of times and even i get some glitches and fps drops with pb on, so its not a myth, joke or an excuse to not use it!

Edited by cubik at 09:38 CDT, 25 October 2008

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light - Reply to #309

yea, and when it works on your pc it works everywhere, in essence even though hundreds of people independently believes it drags down the performance of the game, its obviously overblown because it runs ok on your pc.
Think before you post.

<< Comment #841 @ 11:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #766

fair point. but how come no one ever whined about pb in jolt leagues?

<< Comment #846 @ 11:36 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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light - Reply to #841

i whined every single time =)

<< Comment #887 @ 13:00 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Borl - Reply to #841

I can't remember anyone in Jolt being caught by pb... but I do remember the guy 'ToNe' from clan SeX getting caught in almost exactly the same fashion as SombrA in the TDML quite a while ago.

Anyway I'll always whine about pb.. the only people I've seen it catch were clueless muppets who were obvious anyway. Cheaters who know what they're doing won't get caught by pb, and meanwhile it's causing plenty of problems for the fair player.

I can see a comparison to DRM lurking in the murky recesses of my mind, so I'll leave it there...

<< Comment #1092 @ 04:48 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #887

Heh, I remember playing that guy, spectating him, thinking "something's wrong with him" then hearing the news.

<< Comment #1100 @ 05:23 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #887

i agree it doesn't stop cheaters but i do like it for guids. i think we need some alternative for checking aliasers in leagues. guids aren't perfect but they help, i think that most people would not share cdkeys.

<< Comment #1062 @ 00:27 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #309

Some people don't even notice how shit the OSP netcode is.

<< Comment #605 @ 00:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (macht.org) - Reply to #207

I wouldn't enable it, anyway. it's software that restricts the way I can use other software on my monitor, because it defaults to everyone being a suspect. why woudl I subject myself to that, lag or not?

and, in any case, software like that will NEVER, NEVER work. you cannot stop cheating. it's impossible. you can't "plug the analog hole," and if I have physical access to my system, I can do _anything_ I want with it. their approach to stopping cheats is laughable. it's worse than AV products. "reverse engineer or make a signature in blacklist" is not a good security practice, if you know the first thing about security. you either need a whitelist (with hardwired, strong encryption [read: DRM]), or you need to get rid of the garbage all together, because it's a useless hack.

and then there's the philosophical issue: who the hell are you to tell me I can't "cheat?" how do you define cheating? who does that? and why? what if I want to cheat? maybe you won't let me play in your tournament -- that's fine. but who's to say I can't play in other tournaments, on other servers, or whatever the hell it is I might want to do (it doesn't matter; it only matters that I'm allowed to do that)?

<< Comment #615 @ 01:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #605

wow that was the most useless post i've ever read ROFL...

you sir, are a weird person.

<< Comment #701 @ 06:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (anonymizer.blutmagie.de) - Reply to #615

please explain. no, actually, don't. I don't want to see another of your posts again.

<< Comment #210 @ 07:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

i think its only a reflection of his window in the monitor in both pictures and firebot is just outside.

<< Comment #211 @ 07:49 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead

I like drama on esr.

<< Comment #212 @ 07:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GreEn`mArine

Why has nobody started the "small penis" discussion yet? Too infantile? Come ooon, this is ESR :P

Now seriously, this looks a bit weird. If sombra would have cheated like that for a longer period of time, he would have learned to make sure the uploaded screenshots don't contain the wallhack and radar. And I don't think he was drunk either, since he uploaded the screenshots right after playing the match - which he would obviously not play while being drunk.

Anyways, I hope we'll get more information (as in "facts") about this issue. Just that screenshot alone isn't proof enough. Or did you at least check that the uploaders IP of these 2 screenshots was the same as sombras IP while playing?

P.S. don't hi-jack this post for the small penis discussion!!!!11

<< Comment #214 @ 07:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #212

I wouldn't be too surprised if he simply forgot. A WC3 player did this a few months ago, too.

<< Comment #381 @ 10:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #212

Are you trying to say you're having a small penis? I do not follow.

<< Comment #215 @ 07:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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a1r-r41d

ahhahaha....
now i know why he didnt get any frags versus me in quakelive but can beat good players in Q3....

WALLLLLLLLHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKK .....

I hope you die,

<< Comment #231 @ 08:14 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #215

Chill da fuck out man :D

<< Comment #216 @ 07:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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CAREEM

PLEASE SOME ONE MAKE .AVI WITH HIS WALLHACK!! =P

<< Comment #217 @ 08:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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SombrA

Hi all,

Well i am very surprised about this but what can i say? that is not true? obviusly is not first of all because i play with picmip 3 on CPMA, second is that i am playing this game since it born attended almost all the lan events and all the top players know me due lan events so now that this game is dead do you think that i am going to use fucking cheats on a online tournament for nothing? and then send the screenshots? cmon...

It's hard to say "hey i dont use" because all of you know think i use this shit is my word vs legie word, i am not pointing legie but these screens are very strange with spectators there etc etc...

What can happen there, i really dont know maybe someone hates me and wants to fuck me and it's doing it but this is totally false.

My real screenshots: http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?nid=299850&lid=7657

I have the demos of these matches and all the matches you want, also you can ask spartie and some others about this shit.

Last point, Legie if you dont remove this new i will take legal actions against you because this is totally a big lie and i am not kidding.

Regards.

12%

<< Comment #219 @ 08:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #217

rofl @ legal action

Learn the law before making a threat. =DDDDD

<< Comment #232 @ 08:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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SombrA - Reply to #219

My father will do no worries ;)

<< Comment #236 @ 08:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #232

Your jabberwocky is ineffective.

<< Comment #252 @ 08:36 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #232

So if those were not your screenshots, why didn't you send your own?
I mean legie should have noticed two sets of screenshots in his maibox.

About legal action. Yeah they could have included an "apparantly" or "a the evidence indicates" in the post. But everything points to your guilt so this is news (even in the unlikely event it is wrong).

and usually those who shout "legal actions" right away really have something to hide, most others just say "I don't know wtf happended"

<< Comment #313 @ 09:22 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #232

Don't know if your father has the authority to sue people across international borders and exactly for what -- mental anguish????... Like anyone would fly to Spain to get sued, anyhow, since your father has only a license to practice law in Spain.

Not like you have produced any exculpatory evidence (to repudiate your accusations) anyhow that would make a case like yours even possible to begin with...

<< Comment #387 @ 10:36 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #232

And on top of all that, what kind of pussy is your father to agree to take legal actions for this? I know my parents would give me a "wtf?"-look and believe I was retarded if I asked them this.

<< Comment #235 @ 08:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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DiGiTiZ - Reply to #219

[+1]

an excuse is like an asswhole, ...

whats worse, getting caught or then trying to blame someone els.

xd

<< Comment #220 @ 08:04 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #217

Play more quakeworld
http://nquake.com/

But please, don't cheat or we'll have to smash you.

<< Comment #223 @ 08:08 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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bab - Reply to #217

your "real" screenshots are not picmip 3 either...

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<< Comment #237 @ 08:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #223

XD

<< Comment #262 @ 08:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #223

win win win

<< Comment #282 @ 08:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Weird ' - Reply to #223

tbh picmip 3 looks different on different videocards and sometimes even on different driver versions for that card, so you can't really tell from screens ;)

<< Comment #284 @ 09:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #282

no.

<< Comment #338 @ 09:40 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #282

You can.

The screenshot sombra just posted is not picmip 3.

<< Comment #386 @ 10:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #338

Neither are they of the match vs. Fire_bot :P

<< Comment #225 @ 08:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #217

upload the demos then

megaupload / rapidshare / filefront

<< Comment #241 @ 08:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #225

what would that change?

You can find suspicious moments in almost every match. Just download a demo from here that was played at a LAN tourney and look for possible wallhacks.

<< Comment #230 @ 08:14 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #217

ESR do your journalist stuff and investigate more than you did (or not) !

FROM who are these screenshots. Are you really sure that they are from a SOMBRA himself ?

Like always, more and more the news website (not only in gaming) just relay the information, but never take time to investigate.

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 08:15 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #230

"ESR do your journalist stuff and investigate more than you did (or not) !"

LOL

<< Comment #476 @ 12:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #230

anyone can contribute content on ESR the author of the news item ran said tourny one would presume he had got these screen shots direct from sombra from sombras mail account and not a a fake mail account.... if that wasnt checked or if these screens were mailed in from someone else then someone would look rather silly :)

what im getting at here is it ISNT ESR's job to do investigations for tournament organisers. If it was an ESR tourny so be it, but it wasnt

<< Comment #240 @ 08:20 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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a1r-r41d - Reply to #217

hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.........

cmon dude...
please leave this scene....
Maybe Counter-Strike is something for you?

<< Comment #249 @ 08:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lettu - Reply to #217

u just proved to be one of those moronic cheaters
legal action HA HA HA

<< Comment #251 @ 08:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #217

If these screens are false, why did you not upload the real screenshots from this match when you were giving an example instead of another match screens?

<< Comment #260 @ 08:44 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #251

exactly

<< Comment #276 @ 08:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #251

Easy to fake.

Watch demo + take screenshot at the end with no hack on, change picmip/config a bit.

<< Comment #305 @ 09:15 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #276

Can he change the timestamp at the bottom? I guess that could be photoshop'd if he has the skillz.

<< Comment #316 @ 09:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #305

Where the timestamp is would be the same as the current picture so just cut/paste?

Edited by svalur at 09:43 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Lethe - Reply to #316

1. What would be the motive for any of us to do that?

2. More important - Who gave that person Sombra's irc username and password? (its clear from legie that "sombra" sent him the screens via irc + talked with him before and after about the matches and stuff. The same person.)

3. Sombra, for some reason, deleted the screen after he sent it? =)

4. Does he have *any* kind of explanation in his 2 posts here? No.

enough said. =)

<< Comment #578 @ 20:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #519

I wasn't suggesting any of you faked anything :P

<< Comment #369 @ 10:14 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #276

Yeah thought of that after I posted it. Still better then just to upload some other random pic If you were trying to defend yourself though?

<< Comment #377 @ 10:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #369

A lot better, especially if he did cheat!

<< Comment #265 @ 08:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #217

For someone who has just been accused of hacking you make a really terrible argument. I'm not trying to put you down or anything, but if you are truly innocent of these accusations, you need to:

1) not make threats about legal action (makes you look like you're backed into a corner when you make wild, illogical threats)
2) provide a bit more evidence (like the real screenshots from the match???)

But if you're not innocent, just fess up to it. You'll feel better about it -- and if this is the end of your competitive Quake playing days, then at least you'll have the feeling that you owned up to it and was a man about it and didn't pretend to everyone else that you didn't because that kind of attitude will eat you alive.

Oh what a deadly web we weave when we practice to deceive...

<< Comment #275 @ 08:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #265

Just a point about juridical things

"provide a bit more evidence"

In France for example, you do not have to prove your innocence, the police and justice have to prove themselves your guilt (it's the main difference with the US juridical system).

From my POV these 2 screens are irrelevant and are not a proof of the guilty of Sombra.

ESR needs to investigate more (track IP and so on...). Did legie received the screenshot via mail or the screens were uploaded directly on the website by Sombra (or somebody else <=> perhaps fire_bot himself ?).

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 09:00 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #280 @ 08:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #275

"ESR" doesn't have to do shit.

<< Comment #281 @ 08:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #275

Why does ESR have to do anything?

Screenshots uploaded are a pretty good starting point for evidence, who uploaded/e-mailed them?

<< Comment #297 @ 09:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #281

ESR publish a news which accuse somebody :x

It is a minimal thing to verify exactly/deeply the subject to be sure to not publish false things...

A screenshot is not a proof :
-> Since you have not proved that this screen are from the player you accuse,
-> Since you aren't sure that he played with cheat (is it possible for example to activate the cheat code when a demo is played ? And take screenshot of the score board at the end of the demo ?)

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 09:09 CDT, 25 October 2008

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.syL - Reply to #297

ESR is a platform, not a news organization.

<< Comment #300 @ 09:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #297

would have a different timestamp at the bottom if it was possible to do that with a demo...

<< Comment #333 @ 09:37 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #297

ESReality.com is a community driven website targeted at online and multiplayer computer gamers, although the subject matter can and often does diverge from computers and gaming. The premise of this site is that some of the most up-to-date and useful content comes from the community itself, rather than journalists. To that end all users of this website are encouraged to post content in all sections. Quality control is implemented by allowing trusted users and admins to highlight the more worthwhile content for higher priority viewing. Admins may also edit highlighted posts as needed.

Whine at Legie for not doing what you think is required of him, not ESR.

You can't prove anyone cheats these days can you?
- Screenshot isn't proof.
- Demo isn't proof.
- IP isn't proof either as that doesn't show that the person cheated (maybe he uploaded/sent the screenshots as a joke?)

The only way it can be prooved he was cheating is to have someone go back in time, and video him while he plays that game.

<< Comment #515 @ 15:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #333

oh COME ON :D

<< Comment #516 @ 15:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #515

if something looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and moves like a duck...

ITS A FUCKING DUCK!

<< Comment #930 @ 14:49 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #516

could be something pretending to be a duck.

<< Comment #1076 @ 03:45 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #516

Could be an animated gif with integrated wav of a duck

<< Comment #1095 @ 05:00 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #516

If.. she weighs... the same... as a duck... she's made ... of wood.

And therefore...

<< Comment #579 @ 20:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #515

That's not my opinion, it's what he's basically saying.

<< Comment #388 @ 10:37 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #297

butthurt.

<< Comment #583 @ 20:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #297

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1627437#pid1627437

<< Comment #283 @ 08:59 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #275

I really do understand where you're coming from, but the Quake community doesn't have a judicial system or bill of rights. I was just saying that if he wants to clear all doubt in the minds of the community (really, it's the only way he's going to be able to play competitive Quake ever again), then he needs to do something besides make threats and provide some random screenshots to a demo against some unknown..

<< Comment #292 @ 09:04 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Weird ' - Reply to #275

now I hardly know anything about the law system in the USA... but I can recall a sentence like "Innocent till proven guilty(/otherwise)." from quite a few movies, so I guess you're wrong about the usa law system....
tbh I think every 'civilized' country uses a law system where the accusing party has to prove that the accused did something somewhere at some time.

<< Comment #321 @ 09:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #292

yeah the tabloids really live by it

<< Comment #345 @ 09:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #292

It's a Roman thing. For someone French to claim it as their own is pretty god damn funny. As is the whole thread.

Edited by Demiurge at 09:48 CDT, 25 October 2008

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.syL - Reply to #275

I wish people would shut up about law questions. It's all so painfully wrong, it makes baby jesus' lawyer cry

Edited by .syL at 09:11 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #329 @ 09:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #275

esr is only letting legie post. so esr is just providing the information that sombra is banned in the quick cups

<< Comment #343 @ 09:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #275

"ESR needs to investigate more (track IP and so on...)."

LOL

<< Comment #385 @ 10:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #275

that's the same almost everywhere, but also everywhere photographic evidence is accepted. Unless the other person can prove it is faked evidence.

<< Comment #524 @ 15:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (pool-68-163-7-234.phil.east.verizon.net) - Reply to #275

you sir, are and idiot. :)

<< Comment #542 @ 16:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #524

wow, ironic typo...

<< Comment #278 @ 08:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #217

ROfl I'd love to see you sue someone for criticizing you...You fail.

<< Comment #298 @ 09:08 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #278

Across international borders no less... heh. Don't think SombrA realizes there's such things as "jurisdiction".

<< Comment #304 @ 09:15 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #217

can you send me your real screens with game against fire_bot? you must have it

<< Comment #591 @ 21:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #304

downloading Photoshop now

<< Comment #380 @ 10:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #217

If you take legal actions against this I hope they ban you for that instead. Loser.

<< Comment #394 @ 10:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ V-DecK - Reply to #217

daddy those meanies on ESR are calling me a cheater :(

<< Comment #763 @ 09:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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outlaw - Reply to #217

Yawn. Anyone can take screenshots of the demo and pass them off as the after game ones. Looks like they are even cropped lol. Is this the best you could come up with after blatantly getting caught? You are honestly insulting because it is people like YOU that ruin Quake, people like YOU that keep hacking suspicions high, and people like YOU that ruin online tournaments for everyone. Go FUCK yourself buddy. No one with a brain believes that you suddenly improved online after years of being a nobody by changing your style to one with suspicious gameplay without cheating after this evidence. Theres no conspiracy to show you cheat you fool, if people could do that they would have done it to me a long ass fucking time ago.

Your comments about lanning with people would be proof of your innocence if you played anywhere near as good at the LANs as you were playing online.

To top it off here is a chat log with Rapha before you were caught:

(10:53:23 PM) Shane: I know they put those 2 games of me vs sombra on esr
(10:53:27 PM) Shane: when i was named lexer
(10:53:32 PM) Shane: he does
(10:53:35 PM) Shane: some fo the
(10:53:41 PM) Shane: dumbest things
(10:53:46 PM) Shane: chooses battles that are
(10:53:51 PM) Shane: retarded yet wins
(10:53:59 PM) Shane: was getting so frustrated

Obviously we all know why you won those retarded battles. Next.

<< Comment #1178 @ 17:25 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #763

you should run 'walter's school of cheating' tbh, this kind of thing wouldn't happen so often.

<< Comment #1186 @ 18:52 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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outlaw - Reply to #1178

Or maybe you could enroll in a trolling school, so that what you say might be interesting....

<< Comment #1198 @ 03:38 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1186

do you really want to huurt me, do you really want to maake me cryyy?

<< Comment #1408 @ 22:52 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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waIter - Reply to #1186

walter, may be i should go to troll school too??
or easier may be the easiest way to get everybody satisfied is to put you in "cheat school"???)))

<< Comment #1180 @ 17:28 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #217

"if you dont remove this new i will take legal actions against you because this is totally a big lie and i am not kidding. IM NOT KIDDING YOU GUYS!"

[img1]

<< Comment #218 @ 08:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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[mash]

lal

<< Comment #221 @ 08:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Falzzi

I bet someone stole his account, then played a fakematch with the exact same stats as the real match (had his friends spec with the same specnames as in the real game) then took shots and uploaded them!11 CONSPIRACEH

<< Comment #227 @ 08:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #221

not even possible cause he sent the screens only minutes after match was completed

<< Comment #253 @ 08:37 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #221

I can do better:
One of the specs had wallhack on and send those screenshots.

<< Comment #312 @ 09:22 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #253

I agree

<< Comment #366 @ 10:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #312

And I was being sarcastic.

<< Comment #391 @ 10:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (catv54035A80.pool.t-online.hu) - Reply to #253

So you say lethe, vkl, Guard or n1ghty sent those screens with wh. So lethe posted his own. We alredy got Guard, n1gthy and vkl. Honestly I doubt it one of them sent those screens just to abuse Sombra. Legie has the IRC log where Sombra said he sent the screens. It's all so clear for me. Anyway you can ask them to show their own screens of this game. The only thing he can do for his own good, to confess it was really stupid and apologise.

-dash

<< Comment #404 @ 10:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #391

"Comment #366 @ 17:12 CEST, 25 October 2008 >>
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By Beer! becks ++++: - Reply to #312
And I was being sarcastic.
"

/e

I agree with all you say.

Edited by becks at 10:58 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #222 @ 08:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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gaiia

if it weren't for spain, I'd suspect lobstarz...

<< Comment #256 @ 08:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (bl9-186-55.dsl.telepac.pt)

lol. Sombra how is it possible man? You were a old school player... I am totally disapointed man..

<< Comment #483 @ 13:23 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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stuntz - Reply to #256

and you might be?

<< Comment #228 @ 08:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel

Anyone wants the demo? Cos he's NOT cheating.

<< Comment #233 @ 08:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #228

demos can never prove as much as these screenshots did. unless its full-on autoaim all the time

<< Comment #234 @ 08:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #228

http://onasek.own.cz/upload/sombra.avi
timescale 0.1

explain

<< Comment #259 @ 08:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #234

Terrible host. Cant download :D

<< Comment #264 @ 08:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #259

I downloaded and have no fucking idea what he is getting at.

<< Comment #290 @ 09:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (90.162.224.130) - Reply to #234

step left and rail, his OGC is awesome

<< Comment #279 @ 08:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ichiju - Reply to #234

OMG he did not hit a rail there did he? BURN THE WITCH

<< Comment #286 @ 09:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #234

explain what exactly???

<< Comment #293 @ 09:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #234

lol :DDD

<< Comment #295 @ 09:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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draven- - Reply to #234

upload on other host :)

<< Comment #303 @ 09:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #234

looks like he hit a rail?...

<< Comment #255 @ 08:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (56.89-10-30.nextgentel.com) - Reply to #228

hahaha

<< Comment #270 @ 08:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #228

Yezabel, you're a cool girl and I respect all the things you've done for the Quake community, but please let SombrA stand on his own. If he's innocent, he can prove it on his own.

<< Comment #314 @ 09:22 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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sarac - Reply to #228

yezabel^inlove

yezabel^indenial

<< Comment #320 @ 09:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #314

Hahahahah no way xD

<< Comment #239 @ 08:20 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GreEn`mArine

Not that removing this news NOW would make it any better anyway :p

I'm still curious about how exactly these images were uploaded/sent to the page. Can anybody tell more about how this worked? That someone "hacks" an account and does shit with it can actually be a probability. Think about it.

<< Comment #242 @ 08:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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uniiity

You can easily fake sender's email ; waiting for Legie to compare the IPs from the email to Sombra's IP from irc

<< Comment #245 @ 08:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #242

LOL

k. explain the screens. who did it? how? when?

<< Comment #289 @ 09:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (90.162.224.130) - Reply to #245

firebot specting friends maybe?

<< Comment #306 @ 09:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #289

why would guard do it?

<< Comment #485 @ 13:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #306

has guard been to any lan event yet?

he was always bragging on about knowing walter cheats but can't show proof for whatever reason, so there you have it, they're using the same cheats!!!

<< Comment #556 @ 17:01 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #485

CHA CHA CHA :)))))))))))

<< Comment #399 @ 10:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #242

Omfg... come ON!

<< Comment #609 @ 00:49 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (p549660E7.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #242

you can't "compare e-mail IPs." e-mail IPs are easily forged. the headers don't tell you anything useful except for what MTA connected to your SMTP server at the _last hop_.

the headers up to that point can be changed/modified/injected rather easily. you can run your own MTA, use tor, send through an open relay, or some combination thereof.

<< Comment #243 @ 08:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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pinball-

This is great material for a zeitgeist 3.

<< Comment #244 @ 08:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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a1r-r41d

unity,, why didnt legie get two pairs of screenshots then ? or DID he

<< Comment #250 @ 08:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #244

zing!

<< Comment #267 @ 08:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #244

It is the case, cause fire_bot has perhaps also send the same screenshots himself :o)

In fact it is perhaps fire_ogc_bot screens and not Sombra ones !!! :))

<< Comment #274 @ 08:54 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #244

I really think he cheated. I'm just stating some missing elements

<< Comment #277 @ 08:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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a1r-r41d - Reply to #274

yeah me too .. :\

<< Comment #246 @ 08:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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nekon

batman bin suparman to the rescue!

Edited by nekon at 08:31 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #247 @ 08:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Larvi

REMOVE HIS ESR MONEY!
REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH AMONG ESR USERS!!
OBAMA!!!

Edited by Larvi at 08:52 CDT, 25 October 2008

29%

<< Comment #272 @ 08:53 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #247

AHAHAHAHA, spread the wealth around a bit?

<< Comment #254 @ 08:37 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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.syL

(15:34:13) (+syL_) you could still check ips
(15:34:16) (+gaiia) still trackable
(15:34:16) (+syL_) and ip range
(15:34:17) (+gaiia) yea
(15:34:21) (+Meez) um
(15:34:30) (+Meez) i doubt his ip changed between playing the match and uploading the screenshot
(15:34:35) (+Meez) why not just check server logs
(15:34:40) (+Meez) and website logs
(15:34:40) (+syL_) and cross check with forum posts from that day etc
(15:34:43) (+syL_) yeah
(15:34:45) (+syL_) server logs

<< Comment #258 @ 08:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl

i already uploaded one of the demos on esr....because i was one of the specs in this match

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1622760

<< Comment #285 @ 09:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #258

Could you please send me the screens you made? Please ;)

<< Comment #296 @ 09:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #285

sorry i liked his style too....that`s why i was speccin....but i have no respect left for him whatsoever :D

<< Comment #301 @ 09:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #296

I'm just aking for the screens, please :)

<< Comment #462 @ 12:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #301

are you two e-dating?

<< Comment #532 @ 15:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #462

Yeah sure -.- (ironic)

<< Comment #536 @ 16:09 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #532

sarcastic* :)
when will the next lan be? am looking forward to it!

<< Comment #263 @ 08:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg

omg conspiracy!!!

get a brain morans

<< Comment #400 @ 10:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #263

Yeah, "morans"! ^^

<< Comment #564 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Burn the Priest - Reply to #400

That was probably sarcasm in reference to this

<< Comment #619 @ 02:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #564

Well, then the jokes on me! =P

<< Comment #1373 @ 21:44 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #619

you are and idiot :/

<< Comment #1383 @ 02:21 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #1373

Ok, the jokes over. Atleast I know where that's from.

<< Comment #1394 @ 08:07 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1383

ok :( *goes to his corner*

<< Comment #268 @ 08:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anima

haha guy plays the game for years and still find a way to cheat in a cup game! LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME :D

<< Comment #269 @ 08:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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dadS

what a nob head

<< Comment #287 @ 09:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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draven-

sad ...

<< Comment #294 @ 09:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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fjorgyn

ring ring ring ring ring ring ring bananaphone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdEvDo7525U

Edited by fjorgyn at 09:07 CDT, 25 October 2008

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GUArd - Reply to #294

wahaha nice song :D do you know the name of it? :))

<< Comment #371 @ 10:16 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #352

bananaphone,

an ex-roommate used to play it ten times a day for three weeks O.o

/edit

forgot a 'na' duh

Edited by becks at 10:33 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #397 @ 10:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #371

thnx mate! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vWm47yPLGc&feature=related

<< Comment #463 @ 12:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #352

this is better ;)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0aKBuEt-xj4

<< Comment #308 @ 09:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

this is my screenshot of that game, i was in spec.

Edited by Lethe at 09:19 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #310 @ 09:20 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel

which one?

<< Comment #315 @ 09:23 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #310

hub, awaiting approval.

btw i know it proves nothing but there. =)))

<< Comment #328 @ 09:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #315

it proves u didn't send fake screens i guess? or do ones from a demo look the same?

<< Comment #331 @ 09:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #315

what is that thing in the top-right? custom rl?

<< Comment #334 @ 09:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #331

hm. good question. wtf is that?

<< Comment #341 @ 09:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #334

Spinning RL?
Dropped RL?

<< Comment #342 @ 09:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #341

its not rl, its something to the left of rl. maybe a part of a gib, dunno

<< Comment #347 @ 09:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #342

It looks like an RL barrel end to me.

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Lethe - Reply to #347

wait, you mean the brown thing left of RL? i have simpleitems 0, the right one is obviously RL.

Edited by Lethe at 09:50 CDT, 25 October 2008

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ini - Reply to #350

Yeah the one behind the scoreboard looks like a RL from the other end

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Lethe - Reply to #355

why would it be brown?

rail maybe

Edited by Lethe at 09:54 CDT, 25 October 2008

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ini - Reply to #357

I guess it's the rail judging from the screenshot below :P

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Lethe - Reply to #361

you mean guards'? no, its his screenshot, his graphics =)

<< Comment #365 @ 10:11 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #363

If you mean the odd shape to the left of the RL behind the scoreboard then it's an RG (as you can see in guards simpleitems picture) if not then I'm not sure what you mean :P

<< Comment #396 @ 10:44 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #363

yes rg and rl, at least that's what i was looking at.
i just didn't recognise it at first looking at them straight on and with your graphics :)

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Aaron - Reply to #331

looks like gibs

<< Comment #635 @ 04:07 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dubcat - Reply to #331

oh god.. it's the grenade launcher?

<< Comment #651 @ 04:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #635

is that a joke? i can't tell :)

<< Comment #774 @ 09:39 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dubcat - Reply to #651

it is :)

the plot thickens!

<< Comment #317 @ 09:26 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel

Just wanted to check picmic and timestamp. Thanks :)

<< Comment #318 @ 09:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Legie

irc log

<< Comment #323 @ 09:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #318

DUM DUM DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Edited by lolograde at 09:33 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Lethe - Reply to #318

all of 4 specs are members of esr, and screenshots are made automatically. i posted my screenshot, let nighty post his, guard post his, and vkl post his. if everyone does it, its obvious sombra cheated, cause it was no photoshop.

leaves fire_bot also.

Edited by Lethe at 09:43 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Yezabel - Reply to #325

Good idea :) Thanks

<< Comment #327 @ 09:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #325

+++
hopefully they did them/had cg_autuaction
timestamps ftw

Edited by noxene at 09:36 CDT, 25 October 2008

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randomness666 - Reply to #325

YOU HAD PHOTOSHOP OPEN IN YOUR BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, I THINK THAT IS BUSTED !!!!!!

xD

<< Comment #372 @ 10:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #368

And C++ to code H4X!!

<< Comment #410 @ 11:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #368

goddamn

<< Comment #637 @ 04:09 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dubcat - Reply to #318

the best part about that log is the "fire_bot smells to be honest" bit :D:D:D

<< Comment #337 @ 09:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (219.Red-88-19-192.staticIP.rima-tde.net)

KE XD

put post more credible plzzz :)

mAgUs - ESP

<< Comment #324 @ 09:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Vicious

I think this proof Sombra is the Bay Harbor Butcher!

<< Comment #777 @ 09:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (90.162.224.130) - Reply to #324

Did you uploaded this after using your open photoshop that we saw before?

<< Comment #336 @ 09:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (pc-67-127-241-201.cm.vtr.net)

busted, end of discussion

i hope yezabel and others dont try to protect him, otherwise it'd be a major lol at them when it is re-re-re-re-verified

also if this is true then he should be banned also for lanparties and stuff right

<< Comment #330 @ 09:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

guards screenshots

Edited by Lethe at 09:35 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #589 @ 21:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #330

missing record message

YOU FAKERS!

<< Comment #332 @ 09:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

guard - 2nd map screenshot

Edited by Lethe at 09:36 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #340 @ 09:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

as if A WALLHACK BRINGS ANYTING IN QUAKE ???????

maybe 1% improvement..

still hasto aim, time, postion, ...

wallhack brings nothing imo ..

<< Comment #344 @ 09:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #340

delete that, people will make fun of you.

<< Comment #402 @ 10:54 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #344

They already are, why stop now.

<< Comment #353 @ 09:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #340

ok i really hope you listen closely to this cause its the truth

you are the most retarded poster on this entire site

24%

<< Comment #1050 @ 22:48 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Venim - Reply to #353

other than Sombra of course :)

<< Comment #362 @ 09:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #340

moron.

<< Comment #390 @ 10:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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paradx - Reply to #340

lol, completely clueless

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Raist - Reply to #340

Retarded

<< Comment #921 @ 14:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #340

hi.

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micke - Reply to #340

I totally agree, bra

<< Comment #349 @ 09:49 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl

dont know why i have the console open....but those are my auto screens of this game

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=sombra1yvd4.jpg

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=sombra2zzlg.jpg

<< Comment #354 @ 09:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #349

k, only nighty left.

<< Comment #356 @ 09:53 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolvc

LOL

Edited by nVc at 09:55 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #358 @ 09:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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fuzz

TO THE SPAIN

Edited by fuzz at 09:55 CDT, 25 October 2008

12%

<< Comment #360 @ 09:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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kentinet

...say that Sombra is telling the true...what about the players who have 2 computers and 2 screens and can follow the oppenent via GTV (or spec)...? that is almost impossible to discover

fox said something upward this thread..."play with pb" well that is one way to sort out a few cheaters, but i don�t think we can be 100% sure that there will be straight fights in the future not even with pb...and/or even in QL

<< Comment #375 @ 10:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #360

GTV delay?

<< Comment #378 @ 10:22 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #360

No gtv in that game as far as I can tell

<< Comment #370 @ 10:15 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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13m3

Hall of Shame!!!

<< Comment #389 @ 10:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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pozi

Lethe, what do these screenshots prove? give me the demo and ill give u some more beutiful screenies.

<< Comment #393 @ 10:41 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #389

timestamp :F

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Lethe - Reply to #389

timestamp

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marle - Reply to #413

I aint defending anybod, but what clock does quake use for the timestamps? If its the pc clock, you can change it easy.

Still waiting on Sombra screen, without radar

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Lethe - Reply to #458

you dont get it. you changing your time on the pc wont affect anything, it shows the time of DEMO, that is, the time when the live match ended.

<< Comment #559 @ 17:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #506

:D read ur 2 last posts again :D if time in demo showing DEMOS TIME, so new screenshot make easy as 2x2 , but file created date will be other ofcors :)

<< Comment #454 @ 12:04 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #389

Timestamp is right

<< Comment #379 @ 10:25 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist

One other thing. Someone posted here a screenshot of his Irc showing Legie asking players to send the result pics to his email. Then we see sombra saying it has been sent.

So, are people defending sombra saying than that someone got into his email account and sent the "fake" pictures to legie?

Sounds too overly complicated to me... Occam's Razor imo

<< Comment #384 @ 10:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #379

agreed.

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skint - Reply to #379

also haxxed his irc to say hed sent them

<< Comment #382 @ 10:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Legie

http://quake.own.cz/sombra/

if you can check it...... screens from all specs...there is no doubt at all

<< Comment #593 @ 22:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #382

http://quake.own.cz/demos/pro-q3dm6_britney.dm_68
she plays quake now ? uh oh..

<< Comment #395 @ 10:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu

it really doesn't get more slam-dunk than this. it is settled, he cheated. stop trying to come up with stupid conspiracy theories

<< Comment #398 @ 10:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ashr

might wanna try these next time...

Edited by ashr at 10:45 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #401 @ 10:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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SombrA

Well i want to say sorry about the comment to take legal actions but this is getting so sad.

Imagine that one day you wake up and you see all these shit and the most funny is that you CANT do nothing.

After 12 years playing in lan a lot of events of course more important than these online cups (ESWC, CPL, Lan Arena, etc etc etc...) but hey i tought i want to win these very important cup going to cheat and then i will send the screens cheating XD cmon...

Yes i sent the mail to Legie, but these screenshots are not mine, there are two options or i lie or someone sent these screens or i dont know... but hey i know that you think that i lie :).

Well i cant do nothing i deleted these screenshots after sending it i only keep demos (also i have some logs asking Legie to send the demos on these group matches) but hey beeing a cheater is normal to ask people to play on PB servers when they dont want? because i asked firebot several times to do it but "laggy".

Cant say anything more, just enjoy the lie and see you in lan.

<< Comment #403 @ 10:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #401

i don`t even say you are a bad player....but you lost all your e-respect, sorry mn

<< Comment #492 @ 13:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #403

now why in the fuckin world would i fake all of this ^^

<< Comment #406 @ 10:59 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #401

Its not like playing on a PB server would be reliable proof of that you didn't cheat.

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GUArd - Reply to #401

ogc 3.0 made in ~2001 still works on PB 1 :) tested with killsen and keks 10 times :) one choice dude, u can come to #ninjaquake , take a game vs skilled player with cnq3142.exe , after game with ~60 rail and ~40 lg , paste us screenshot with CONSOLE , so it would be proof and we ALL (most) will ask for give us! deal?

<< Comment #411 @ 11:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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SombrA - Reply to #407

Sure we can do it when you want.

Also it's funny that you'r pointing at me this way when you'r the first that never attended any lan event.

You can check some demos from me in lan with net +25 and 15 impressivesl vs Ironfist or vs iC.

http://www.cyberfight.org/site/demos/3313/

Oh wait i was cheating at CPL Cologne too :).

<< Comment #414 @ 11:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #411

that doesnt matter. point is you cheated in THIS match. without any doubt

<< Comment #420 @ 11:13 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #411

dude i wont 30+ lans WON, not atented :D and i dont telling that u are bad player, u could own in tdm , but what i saw from few games vs u , it was funny :) ok come # ninjaquake ~21 cet, can u? we will make showmatch for 3-4 games, atleaset one of these must be with same hight % :) and u will send aftermatch screenshot with cn142 console.

<< Comment #1387 @ 03:58 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #420

demos?

<< Comment #1389 @ 04:39 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #1387

wasn`t show match :)

<< Comment #1398 @ 11:06 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1389

huh?

<< Comment #1409 @ 23:37 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1389

he wants demos from all these lan events you have supposedly won, how about online references as well

<< Comment #1413 @ 06:49 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #1409

last won event was in 2005 :D big in 2003 :D u can find some demos on cyberfight maybe dunno :)))

<< Comment #1420 @ 17:43 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1413

cmon, just upload your demos against sombra, don't be a bitch. after all, what damage could this possibly do? it can only be beneficial to both him and you.

Edited by tourist at 17:44 CDT, 31 October 2008

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led - Reply to #411

The fact that you bring this up really shows that you cheated indeed. And now you can't even admit it like a man because you would look even more stupid.

Edited by led at 12:03 CDT, 25 October 2008

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ini - Reply to #401

Unless you're suggesting Legie is out to get you, then all that needs to be checked is the e-mail address he received the screenshots on vs the one you sent them from. (That would be a nice start at least)

Edited by svalur at 11:02 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Legie - Reply to #408

sombra said:

"Yes i sent the mail to Legie, but these screenshots are not mine, there are two options or i lie or someone sent these screens or i dont know... but hey i know that you think that i lie :)"

and he havnet screens ... and how you check screens from my email? i can rename it ...its simply easy...

Iam preparing 15th QQC, 3rd EDL, 2nd NATIONS CUP and others and yes! i change his screens ....report was some minutes after game...

<< Comment #428 @ 11:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #415

The point I was making was if they aren't his screenshots then who the sent them?

I doubt they would have access to his e-mail account and irc and be a magical invisible spectator with a hack!

<< Comment #409 @ 11:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #401

please, give us a break

you confirmed on irc that you sent screenshots.
they are from your mail.
they showed undeniable cheats.
it was only minutes after match.
everyone else has showed their screenshots.

<< Comment #416 @ 11:09 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lettu - Reply to #401

what happened to those real screenshots that u send to legie? :DD
game over pal..

<< Comment #418 @ 11:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #401

i deleted these screenshots after sending it

Isn't possible to catch them back with a trial software like Norton tool or something similar ? I did that years ago.

<< Comment #438 @ 11:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #418

yup its possible to get them back.

<< Comment #453 @ 12:04 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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led - Reply to #438

and why would he do that? lol

<< Comment #795 @ 10:15 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #453

That's the question. My point was to have a sombra answer because I don't understand why he said he loose the screenies and that they could be a proof when it's so easy to recover... :)

His sensless sentence, exept for bad reason, "i deleted these screenshots after sending it" just sounds like a perfect unconsious admission.

<< Comment #494 @ 13:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Putka - Reply to #418

Google for "getmydataback" depends which FS you have. Lets say NTFS would be then.

"getmydatabackforntfs" and it really works even after formating :)

<< Comment #762 @ 09:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #418

copies of the screens should still be in his "mail sent" folder or smth...

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melechesh ' - Reply to #762

^ this comment right here is the true gem

<< Comment #1526 @ 08:51 CST, 5 March 2012 >>

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mic - Reply to #1524

dude, u realize this post is over 4 years old? :D did u invent a time machine and post from the past? if i was high right now i'd freak out

Edited by mic at 08:53 CST, 5 March 2012

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1526

I know but it's one of those magical threads that can be re-read multiple times:D

Edited by melechesh at 09:44 CST, 5 March 2012

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mic - Reply to #1527

freaks me out man, freaks me out http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...terson.jpg

<< Comment #419 @ 11:13 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #401

"Can't do nothing", so you can do something?

Also, if you did send your screenshots via mail, then they should still be in the outbox. Just download them from there and show us, ok?

Edited by LoCK at 11:15 CDT, 25 October 2008

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tifu - Reply to #419

im sure that clearing his outbox is part of his daily routine :(

<< Comment #443 @ 11:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #437

Of course it is.

<< Comment #445 @ 11:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #437

Just like deleting screenshots that takes HUGE amount of space on your harddrive..

<< Comment #426 @ 11:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #401

End the drama and admit it!

Edited by Larvi at 11:17 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #430 @ 11:27 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #401

/not impressed

<< Comment #431 @ 11:29 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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eoe.d1ablo - Reply to #401

FAIL

<< Comment #436 @ 11:40 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vamp1re - Reply to #401

If you admit to it, maybe you'll be able to regain some respect, and in time possibly play in events again.

Otherwise your only other option would be to provide proof that there is some sort of conspiracy. Which you seem to be avoiding by saying that you deleted the screens.

If you are just going to sit there and say SOMEONE'S OUT TO GET ME and do nothing, then you might as well just leave the community for good. That's rather disgraceful.

<< Comment #444 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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paulrrrr - Reply to #401

Dude, honestly stop digging a bigger hole.... You could have said, "ok guys i cheated. :( it was wrong and I'm ashamed of myself, sorry to fire bot and all other players etc."

but you have decided to deny first, which is one of the normal human options when being caught red handed like this. it's such a shock.

Please, stop talking, sleep on it. Then tomorrow you can sorry for cheating and also for lying about it today too.

<< Comment #465 @ 12:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.pool85-49-143.dynamic.orange.es) - Reply to #401

http://undelete-plus.com/

Or look for it in mininova or piratebay

<< Comment #469 @ 12:41 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #401

you should still have them in your Sent mail box - unless of course you delete all emails as soon as you send them too

<< Comment #793 @ 10:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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raithza - Reply to #469

oh well played good sir

<< Comment #543 @ 16:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #401

So basically, a person can attend a LAN, play for a long time, and that makes it impossible for them to cheat?

I really can't see how you can explain the mountain of evidence against you... the only thing you have left to say is that you attended some LANs... =(

<< Comment #572 @ 17:55 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (dslb-088-064-182-088.pools.arcor-ip.net) - Reply to #401

If SombrA deleted the screenshots he can still try to use a data recovery tool. Worked well for me when i deleted 500 mb of important stuff. Those two screenshots should still be there.

<< Comment #573 @ 17:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #572

important stuff == porn

<< Comment #768 @ 09:28 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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outlaw - Reply to #401

Theres no conspiracy to show you cheat you fool, if people could do that they would have done it to me a long ass fucking time ago.

You fucked up and now you have to pay the consequences.

<< Comment #1051 @ 22:54 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Venim - Reply to #768

ya but now we'll know for next time

<< Comment #1407 @ 22:52 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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waIter - Reply to #768

waltel allready fucked up with his cheating stuff, but hes still trying not to loose his face in cyberspot community)))

<< Comment #779 @ 09:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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light - Reply to #401

no wonder you delete your screenshots after your games.

<< Comment #1267 @ 11:41 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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-greg- - Reply to #401

Look into your mailaccount into "sent items" or something, there should be the original mail you sent. Send it again, but i guess u deleted it...

<< Comment #405 @ 10:58 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vicek

use gmail.

<< Comment #425 @ 11:16 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (87-194-94-244.bethere.co.uk)

I once played a guy who insisted we used PB server. I thought it was odd but figured it was because I usually beat him and he wanted to be sure I wasn't cheating.

The guy destroyed me with 70% rail and 60% lg on OSP. He then denied having the demos but I later got them from his/our mate and it was just stupidly obvious.

I now realise, after rowing with him, that he wanted to have a PB server so that he could say "but there was pb, how could I cheat??"

So IMO your request to play on PB server, despite the lag, just says to me you were looking for a way to backup your "I don't cheat" arguement (in the event something should go wrong).

// rax

<< Comment #595 @ 22:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #425

yep, same thought here

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Anonymous (212.219.117.143) - Reply to #425

Haha rax, I remember that. Damn I can't believe I lost the demos, was legendary for him to boast to me about it and then send me the demos' over msn. Was so blatent.
/dor

<< Comment #422 @ 11:15 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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pozi

Lethe and vkl, double click on the time on right bottom corner of your windows bar and u can change the time of ur computer. Please.. that screens don't prove anything.

<< Comment #427 @ 11:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #422

Please don't be pathetic. Thanks.

<< Comment #433 @ 11:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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pozi - Reply to #427

I'm talking about the spect screens of Lethe and vkl, so if u didn't read anything before, shut up your big mouth, thanks.

<< Comment #442 @ 11:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #433

What I mean is that you are pathetic trying to defend him. Thanks.

<< Comment #547 @ 16:36 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #433

You're basically accusing everyone of framing SombrA for this whole thing?

<< Comment #549 @ 16:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #547

Screenshot on the grassy knoll.

<< Comment #553 @ 16:54 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #549

Spanish government black ops mission to ruin SombrA's quake 3 "career".

<< Comment #466 @ 12:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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TdM - Reply to #427

still he's right with "that screens dont prove anything"

<< Comment #468 @ 12:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #466

But you see, they kind of do. The only case where you would be right would be if they all would be in on some kind of conspiracy against SombrA, which is just... come on.

<< Comment #479 @ 13:08 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #466

in that case you migh as well allow cheats

pb can be wrong.
demos can be misleading except for 100% aimbot
and now even screenshots aren't acceptable.

What's left?
Trusting every player? ahahahahha

<< Comment #489 @ 13:36 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.pool85-49-143.dynamic.orange.es) - Reply to #479

That you don't like the fact of being unable to 100% prove someone is cheating online doesn't make it different: you can't.

The only thing you can do is go to lans and prove yourself, and he did that.

I don't like sombra too much (in fact, I posted earlier in the thread "lmao @ sombra, and joked about him in another), but legie and others not just posting this thread (which would be the right thing to do), but ALSO being that active and interested bashing sombra make me suspicious.

By the way, I also posted a link to undelete earlier, which would get the deleted screenshots back. Not that the screenshots would prove anything either, because he himself could do what pozi said.

<< Comment #560 @ 17:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #489

that much is true.

But even in everyday life you can almost alway think up some conspiracy theory for every crime that a court deals with. And a lot of lawyers ordefendants do. So you can never be 100% certain a verdict is indeed correct.
So judges have to evaluate what the most probable situation was.

<< Comment #421 @ 11:13 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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CAREEM

can any1 make a video with wallhack included? of this match? This is the only way to prove SomrA's guilty, if he is guilty of course.

<< Comment #423 @ 11:16 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #421

this is as much proof as anyone can EVER get. demos dont prove much, they can only look suspicious

<< Comment #424 @ 11:16 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #421

No, it's not the only way.

<< Comment #435 @ 11:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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sch.

omfg hahaha what a joke

i dont care how you playing on lan so i fuck your demos from hmm CPL ? nevermind who cares

Give me screen wait - you dont have ? so you dont have any proof.
What a fun , every player from spect send screens and you dont have it becuse you delete it
but but but wait a moment -

on screen i see 6 players , http://quake.own.cz/sombra/ there are five screens without yours ... so from who are thats screen on qqc site ? I dont know maybe God made it ...

GO to the hell cheater ! :D

<< Comment #434 @ 11:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Malice

Spartie on preparing for ESWC Athens:

"I played mainly with Sombra, but also a few games with other players such as strenx, noctis, fox, av3k, Rapha. While I was in Athens I just concentrated on my games. "

xDDD

<< Comment #446 @ 11:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #434

He should practice more with SombrA vs. the next event then! Maybe SombrA can make a trademark with his wallhack.

<< Comment #488 @ 13:34 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #434

as a training device cheating has benefits

<< Comment #514 @ 15:15 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #488

like tennis players practicing vs a wall

<< Comment #439 @ 11:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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sama

As long it is fuckin' online - who cares...

forever cheated too on pickup games or somethin as far as i remember...

<< Comment #449 @ 11:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #439

So, cheating on an online cup with actually prizes is alright? Might want to think again.

<< Comment #823 @ 10:53 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sama - Reply to #449

I nowhere argued that this is alright, the point is there is no point for such an e-drama you know.

<< Comment #832 @ 11:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #823

There's nothing like fresh E-drama in the morning!

<< Comment #460 @ 12:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #439

If I lost a keg of beer, because of him cheating, I would be in tears right now. :[

<< Comment #540 @ 16:14 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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eoe.d1ablo - Reply to #460

well... cant you buy it?

<< Comment #561 @ 17:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #540

he's in .za

<< Comment #570 @ 17:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #540

You don't understand. It's not some normal consumer product, a pack of chips, or a toothbrush.

ITS A KEG OF BEER!!!!!!!!!

:P

<< Comment #440 @ 11:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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sn1kzZe

whats more sad: sombra trying to defend himself, or everyone else trying to convience him that hes cheating.

how can someone possibly think hes not cheating after all this evidence.

gg wp

<< Comment #467 @ 12:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (87-194-94-244.bethere.co.uk)

In fairness, the screenshot could have been editted by Legie, he did have photoshop open at the time of the mIRC DCC.

I doubt this is the case though.

// rax

<< Comment #472 @ 12:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #467

I wonder what would've been Legie's, organizer's who is liked by everyone and hasn't got a single thing to gain from it, motive.

<< Comment #473 @ 12:49 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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eoe.d1ablo - Reply to #467

nah, thats obvious he used PS to save the screenshots. In first screenshots there was no PS, then he opened PS saved 1st screend and made second one, which includes ps on the desctop :) time value in tray confirms that. easy.

plz no panic... this is doubtless clearest FAIL of all times.

Edited by eoe.d1ablo at 12:52 CDT, 25 October 2008

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rax- - Reply to #473

Hum, you mean you used PS to edit the IRC screenshot? Because if that was the case, he'd screenshot the desktop then edit with PS and save/upload. This wouldn't show PS on the desktop..

Like I said, I doubt it's the case that Legie editted it anyway.. No motive.

<< Comment #504 @ 14:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #490

Ninja plz, why would he edit a screenie?

<< Comment #548 @ 16:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #490

Opened PS before he took screenshot? Cause he knew he was gonna highlight the desktop screenshot with a big red square?

<< Comment #482 @ 13:17 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #467

yes i used PS why not? you mean i make this "screens with cheat?" :)

<< Comment #491 @ 13:36 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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rax- - Reply to #482

I'm just pointing out that while you were being sent the screenshots you had PS open.. I'm not accusing you, just pointing out that it IS possible that you could have (if you wanted to) modified the screenshots sent.

Though as I've already said, I doubt that's the case because you have no motive. Also, Sombra has provided no form of evidence that he wasn't cheating, not even the screenshots from his "sent" box.

<< Comment #497 @ 13:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #491

i mate one screen with MSpaint and it was bad quality - it was 1st screen sombra_pm.jpg ...so i swich to PS for quality images...thats all...look at times

<< Comment #447 @ 11:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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reyu

LULZ I SWEAR ALL THE FACTS ARE MADE UP 1`11!!!!

<< Comment #448 @ 11:54 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lovey

MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS

Edited by Lovey at 11:56 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #450 @ 11:57 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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dem0n

Why does everyone say that sombra sent his screenshots a few minutes after the match when it's clearly written 14th of october on the screenshots, and the screenshots have been uploaded only yesterday ?

Fake.

<< Comment #459 @ 12:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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rax- - Reply to #450

Perhaps there was a period of investigation where Legie seeked advice and comments from people (e.g. fox, dash etc.) and didn't want to upload them until he felt certain there was no mistake in his judgement?

// rax

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apoxic - Reply to #450

Look at all the other screens by the specs.

<< Comment #487 @ 13:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #455

proves nothing, not hard to fake a screenshot

not saying they did, and I really really doubt they did but it has no grounds for serious argument

<< Comment #505 @ 14:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #487

they are done automatically, we all sent our automatically made screenshots with the timestamps on it.

<< Comment #507 @ 14:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #505

stop taking this shit seriously, jesus.

unless you remove the plank of wood in your cunt I might start accusing.

<< Comment #508 @ 15:00 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #487

proves nothing, not hard to fake a screenshot

thats where you failed. it kinda adresses me also? which is, kinda, fail?

<< Comment #511 @ 15:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #508

wow...

all I'm saying is timestamps still are not definite proof that's all

extremely unlikely Sombra is telling the truth but that still doesn't change the fact screenshots can be easily faked.

<< Comment #512 @ 15:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #511

ok, hypothetically speaking.

how can you exactly fake a screenshot after a match?

<< Comment #528 @ 15:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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eoe.d1ablo - Reply to #512

change windows(bios) time?

<< Comment #534 @ 16:06 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #528

and that affects what? =)

<< Comment #537 @ 16:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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eoe.d1ablo - Reply to #534

time stamp on the screenshot

<< Comment #539 @ 16:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #537

what screenshot?

<< Comment #562 @ 17:19 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #539

THE SCREENSHOT WHERE I FUCKED YUOR GIRLFRIEND!

mildly drunk psting, but really can you try to be more dense?

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Lethe - Reply to #562

if you dont know what the fuck are you talking about, or anyone, then dont say anything, and shut the fuck up.

posts like "screenshot!" or "timestamp!" or whatever the fuck are pretty useless unless you specifically say what u mean, again, ESPECIALLY if its already cleared 1000 times here.

btw i fucked your mother, i'm also drunk.

<< Comment #749 @ 08:48 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #747

if you post in the thread to a news that offers the link to a screenshot, don't you think it is obvious which screenshot is being talked about?

yes, I know there are two screenshots behind the link, but everything that has been said counts for both.

<< Comment #751 @ 08:55 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #749

#519

i dont think there's anything more to say when it comes to this.

<< Comment #755 @ 09:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #751

yes

<< Comment #563 @ 17:21 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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eoe.d1ablo - Reply to #539

fake screenshot. just read few replys above.

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Raist - Reply to #450

Perhaps because lethe was late in uploading the pictures to the site?

the irc logs clearly show that the pictures were sent to lethe on oct 14, same as the ss taken.

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Lethe - Reply to #474

they weren't *sent* to me, its a screenshot which i found today in cpma/screenshots dir, didn't know i have it even. wasnt really important till today, every match i play/spec does a screenshot at the end.

<< Comment #517 @ 15:23 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #510

But I thought they were Sombra's ss? They obviously werent taken by you otherwise it would have meant you cheated :D

Think we have a misunderstanding here Lethe.

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Lethe - Reply to #517

legie opened this topic, gave link to qqc site, with 2 screenshots of "sombra".

i posted mine afterwards, and guards. vkl posted his, nighty's and firebot's are on the adress legie made. i guess you havent read this entire thing, but i cant blame you really =)

Edited by Lethe at 15:28 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Raist - Reply to #520

Nah I did read it, the misunderstanding is that I mixed up you and legie while looking at all the screenshots that's all :D

<< Comment #456 @ 12:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Xsi

Maybe he was so scared to play against fire_bot that he used OGC for the first time and didnt realize that screens would look like this. But who is sending screens not looking at them before? Obviously a moron ...

<< Comment #478 @ 13:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #456

Or he's so used to the radar that he forgot it's not normally there and was hyped from the close games so just uploaded.

<< Comment #471 @ 12:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (vasho.ynet.sk)

oouu maii daady pleasee suee him , i really dont cheat and alll world is against meee buuu :((((

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2787/fail2it9.jpg

<< Comment #470 @ 12:44 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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illogic

man would do anything for his beer

<< Comment #475 @ 12:51 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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exp!

ANYONE THAT IS TRYING TO DEFEND HIM IS JUST PATHETIC.
HE CHEATED. GET OVER IT.

next, lol.

<< Comment #480 @ 13:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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tyas

this is a story for jonathan frakes :O

<< Comment #493 @ 13:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vkl

oh so again...would i fake all of this?

Edited by vkl at 04:06 CDT, 26 October 2008

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Legie - Reply to #493

fakt what?:)) you mean i faked screens?

<< Comment #499 @ 14:04 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Dird

Legie to the rescue \o/

Edited by Dird at 14:04 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Putka

He can still get back all of his stuff because nothing is deleted until used formating a long way overwriting all with zeros probably known as low level format. Anything else can be reverted.

Even after quick format

Edited by Putka at 14:07 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Anonymous (150.Red-88-18-120.staticIP.rima-tde.net)

It�s incredible what u can do with adobe photosop CS3 extreme you can even be like Brad Pitt if you want....

<< Comment #503 @ 14:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #501

but It can't make look like Sombra didn't cheat...

<< Comment #502 @ 14:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Omni

based on a true story BANNNNNNNNNED FOR LIFEzz!!!!!!!!111 pew!

<< Comment #513 @ 15:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg

In CS I can usually see where people defending suspected cheaters are coming from, but this?

<< Comment #527 @ 15:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #513

They're coming from Spain in this case, not hard to understand. =P

<< Comment #529 @ 15:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #527

Ouch.

<< Comment #1097 @ 05:06 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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jal - Reply to #527

Not everyone from Spain is defending him, tho ;)

<< Comment #1230 @ 08:13 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (people.eniro118118.se) - Reply to #1097

but everyone defending him is. : D
/krek

<< Comment #518 @ 15:24 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Levi215

Is the area to the left with the cross this 'wall hack' / radar? I've never seen any quake cheats but in unreal any hacks i saw looked a lot different to that? Is it just a radar like CS or CSS?

<< Comment #521 @ 15:28 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #518

This would be a very basic hack since it basically only displays the direction and distance of your opponent.

<< Comment #522 @ 15:30 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #518

dont compare counterstrike with quake dude =(

<< Comment #526 @ 15:41 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #518

You can also see Fire_bot�s nick through the walls, hence the 'wall hack' accusation. Just look for it in the screenshots, his name is part red.

<< Comment #530 @ 15:47 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Levi215 - Reply to #526

Ah yeah i see now... cheers

<< Comment #545 @ 16:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #530

Np.

<< Comment #525 @ 15:39 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Six16

comments are great, never plussed so many comments in one thread..

Edited by d3c4y at 15:56 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #723 @ 07:47 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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karizma - Reply to #525

hahaha .. :D

<< Comment #531 @ 15:48 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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puritan '

This thread needs more conspiracy theories imo.

Sombra emailed his screenshots to legie, he confirmed this by himself, and since there were no double emails containing sombra's screenshots, the whole thing seems simple enough to me.

We all do mistakes and I believe Sombra will have the strength to admit this, because of his friends who try to defend him here in the first place.

<< Comment #544 @ 16:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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pozi - Reply to #531

It would be nice to see some screenies of that email, or better a video opening that sombra's email and then downloading and opening his original screenshots. And all it will be totally clear with this ^_^-

<< Comment #551 @ 16:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #544

are u a moron or what?

<< Comment #555 @ 16:56 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #551

easier for him to accuse everyone else of hacks then to admit a friend of his hacks.

<< Comment #558 @ 17:07 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #544

OH COME ON!

<< Comment #598 @ 22:46 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #544

I just asked mighty God. "cheat for sure", he replied =P

<< Comment #618 @ 02:00 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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erok - Reply to #544

Yeah wtf, where is everyone's video recording of their normal desktop activities? Obvious proof of a conspiracy against sombra.

<< Comment #538 @ 16:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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analyzer

Punkbuster is really useless by the way !

Edited by analyzer at 16:14 CDT, 25 October 2008

<< Comment #541 @ 16:18 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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oreozz

Like there hasn't been cheaters online that go to lan and do decent since the beginning of time(in almost every game!)

Griffin uploaded a screenshot a few months ago with wallhacks on ffs :D

<< Comment #574 @ 18:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #541

that wasn't really a wallhack, that was his crosshair. (the positioning just happened to be where the health would have been)

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot0021qa5.jpg

Edited by focus at 18:35 CDT, 25 October 2008

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Aaron - Reply to #574

LOL wow, it looks nothing like a health bubble at all

I have no idea what he is referring to but my guess is it's more the fact that model appears to be on the RL level so it looks like a wallhack although it's actually just dropping down

just an illusion

and if that's not the case and it's actually the crosshair, whoever mentioned that and agreed with it are fucking retarded

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f0cus - Reply to #580

My wording makes more sense given some context, so here ya go. But yeah, It's not really a wallhack.
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1571089#pid1571089

<< Comment #625 @ 03:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #574

Nothing resembling a cheat in that ss. Whoever thought that was a wallhack is retarded :D

Edited by Raist at 03:27 CDT, 26 October 2008

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becks - Reply to #625

or if it were a wallhack the coder would be severly retarded. "My wallhack shows randoms images that give you no advantage whatsoever"

<< Comment #670 @ 05:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #634

:D

<< Comment #546 @ 16:35 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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LuGia

I wonder how long it takes that some "new good spanish" player pops up out from nowhere with gaming style quite close to sombras hmmmmh
(btw i always tought he cheats, i think i said about it to some admin in some cup ...)

Edited by LuGia at 16:38 CDT, 25 October 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #546

I think a lot of people have accused SombrA of hacks. He had a stigma of being a hacker... which sadly, makes him easier to accuse in situations like this. =(

<< Comment #552 @ 16:53 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #546

Pr00f!

;)

<< Comment #569 @ 17:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (MS-148-121.dyn-ip.SPb.SkyLink.RU)

finish him quick!

<< Comment #557 @ 17:02 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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lolograde '

I really, really doubt SombrA will admit anything. You would hope he would man up about it, but think about this objectively.

First off, he hacks which shows his immaturity level about playing "competitive" video games... which is a joke, to cheat in something that is meant for FUN.

Second, he threatens legal action over the internet. (ahah, ok?)

Third, all of his online friends are defending him (so he has someone to back him up so it isn't him versus the world). He doesn't feel alone and without options.

And lastly, he doesn't have to look at anyone in the eyes and say he didn't hack. He just types away on his computer, over the internet, and edit and re-edit each of his posts to sterilize them of any incriminating comments.

Probability that SombrA hacks: 99.9999%
Probability that SombrA will admit it: 0.000001%

20%

<< Comment #576 @ 19:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #557

awesome post. [+]

<< Comment #1066 @ 00:44 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #557

No wait, give me my plus back. The probability that he hacks is a full 100%.

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Anonymous (MS-148-121.dyn-ip.SPb.SkyLink.RU)

finish him quick!

<< Comment #567 @ 17:38 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (MS-148-121.dyn-ip.SPb.SkyLink.RU)

4uTepa B TonKy

<< Comment #565 @ 17:37 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (c117-59.i05-30.onvol.net)

Why don't you request his demo and check using r_shownormals 1 or w/e cvar quake has to view wallhack in a demo and check if the guy was really behind that wall on the left or where ever the wallhack is

// killer

<< Comment #638 @ 04:10 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #565

Maybe you wanna check this

<< Comment #746 @ 08:35 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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MFM - Reply to #565

I did a comparison for the ztn map (didnt find the hub demo)
http://xs232.xs.to/xs232/08430/sombra-vs-fire...ey1159.jpg
Spot is at the same location.

<< Comment #824 @ 10:55 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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TdM - Reply to #746

this only proves that whoever made the screenshot used cheats..:P
conspiracy ftw

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Weird ' - Reply to #746

sarcasm:
omg you have exactly the same fov I smell a conspiracy!!!
/sarcasm
wtf are you doing with a cheat installed anyway ? :P

Edited by Weird at 11:38 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #577 @ 19:32 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cpe-68-175-88-120.nyc.res.rr.com)

HACKALITY

<< Comment #582 @ 20:43 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (173.Red-83-58-21.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)

Sombra says "see you in lan"

If anyone of this people who insults him and has balls to go to any event in lan and beat him, i will respect. The problem, it's most of this people will never have the same level than him, and never will beat him.

I think sombra deserves more respect than this kind of lie.

Quake 4

2006 - Quake 4 - 1st - ONO Arena Lan Final - Madrid, Espa�a. - 2.000�
2006 - Quake 4 - 1st - ONO Arena Fase PRO 2.0 - ONLINE
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2006 - Quake 4 - 32th - ESWC Gran Finals Q4 1vs1 - Paris, Francia

Quake 3
1999-2003

2002- Quake 3 - 1st - (Spanish Championship) Campus Party 2002 TDM - Valencia
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2002- Quake 3 - 2nd - Euskal Party 1vs1 � Bilbao
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1999- Quake 3 - 2nd - (Spanish Championship) Campus Party FFA - Valencia
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2003- Quake 3 - 2nd - Torneo Tarragona 1vs1 � Tarragona
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2002- Quake 3 - 3rd - Torneo Ciberlord 1vs1 - Madrid
2002- Quake 3 - 5th - CPL Cologne TDM - Cologne, Alemania
2002- Quake 3 - 10th - Lan Arena 7 TDM � Par�s, Francia.
2003- Quake 3 - 16th - Quakecon � Dallas, USA.
2001- Quake 3 - 16th - Top16 ELSA CPL London - TDM - Londres, Inglaterra
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kaspeRQ -ESP-

<< Comment #584 @ 21:05 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #582

/facepalm

Playing in an event does not give you immunity to cheating.

<< Comment #586 @ 21:09 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #582

hello sombras friend

he got caught, just face it. he made a really stupid mistake, and got caught.

caught

caught caught caught

sounds good doesnt it

CAUGHT

<< Comment #596 @ 22:42 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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rolf - Reply to #586

hello trippys friend

he got caught, just face it. he made a really stupid mistake, and got caught.

caught

caught caught caught

sounds good doesnt it

CAUGHT

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rep - Reply to #596

are you trying to say they're no longer more than just friends?

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becks - Reply to #601

I hear they'll form a boygroup.

Can you guess the name?

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nekon - Reply to #636

caught in the egd?

26%

<< Comment #732 @ 08:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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rolf - Reply to #601

what? they can't be gay and friends at the same time?

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funnyb - Reply to #596

hello ix, why raged : D

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rolf - Reply to #730

raged? I'm merely pointing out obvious hypocrisy ; ---- D. Also, it's ix who's imitating me, not the other way around.

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funnyb - Reply to #733

sorry for calling you ix, uncalled for

but im trolling ,i don't need logics here �8-)-<-<

<< Comment #592 @ 22:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #582

Yeah because being caught cheating and blaming it on organizer doing voluntary work + sending spanish helper monkeys here instead of taking tiniest bit of responsibility of his own actions is ballsy and respectful :/

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apoxic - Reply to #582

Funny how his only real achievements are online or on spanish ground.

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LoCK - Reply to #582

You're an idiot.

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Raist - Reply to #582

Totally unrelevant.

Edit: The only part that your entire post might help is that Sombra will probably enter a lan tourney no problem since it would be pretty impossible to get away cheating there.

Online though, no chance atm :D

Edited by Raist at 05:26 CDT, 26 October 2008

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a1r-r41d - Reply to #582

yeah... Sombra has already disconnected several times against me in QuakeLive...

And now i hope no ones ever gonna play him again...

he suck.

<< Comment #1017 @ 19:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Drexciyian - Reply to #582

So basically you sucked vs international players, grats :D

<< Comment #587 @ 21:12 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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madbringer

OH DEAR

Edited by madbringer at 21:13 CDT, 25 October 2008

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becks - Reply to #587

Oh dear, I see you have done this with Adobe Photoshop CS3.

Wait, were you trying to make some point??

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madbringer - Reply to #639

Yes.

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becks - Reply to #665

and what would that be?
That editing with photoshop changes the file information of a screenshot? Good point!

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madbringer - Reply to #668

No.

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becks - Reply to #683

k

<< Comment #691 @ 05:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #587

Clearly thats not the Wolfenstein logo in the right corner! I SMELL SOMETHING FISHY HERE.

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madbringer - Reply to #691

You're... you're not suggesting the screen was edited, i hope????

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apoxic - Reply to #726

Seceretly, I am. But officially no, that'd make you look bad!

<< Comment #772 @ 09:36 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #760

I had nothing to do with it. I got the screen from Arqon. You can see him on the server. Yup.

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Lauke - Reply to #772

hahaha.

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Warlock

mm this seriously surprises me, would have never thought sombra cheats.

Could someone explain to me what that radar hack is and where you can see on the screenshot that he is using a wallhack since I have no idea , thanks .

On the faking screenshot possibility, its fairly easy to fake screenshots if youre good at photoshop or any editing tool.

About the screenshot and radar image on it, shouldn't a hack tool be working in the background ? I mean if you use the radar tool and press score tab, shouldnt the numbers & % be hovering OVER the radar instead of behind it ? Since on the screenshot they are hovering over the text (the black lines from the radar, hovering over stat 14/137 of sombra pg dmg).

Note that above im just thinking in photoshop terms, has nothing to do with defending sombra or not. Just if the picture is fake, someone can test it easely by downloading the hack tool and pressing score tab with effeciency to see if its hovering over or behind the text.

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vedic - Reply to #588

You say you don't know where/what the radar is, but then seem to know exactly where/what it is later in your post... Radar is translucent, and is an overlay. There is nothing fishy about the scoreboard/radar in those screenshots at all.

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Warlock - Reply to #590

mm It's called thinking, if I would make such a tool I would make it so that the text comes over it, not behind it like on the screenshot.

I have no idea how the radar tool works or what proof on the screenshot tells that he is using a wallhack, why else would I ask for it ?

So if fox says the radar is part of OGC, it means he used OGC in the past and or still uses it at time ?

nice way of thinking you have there, not ...

There is a difference in thinking, guessing and knowing by using the tool yourself. I for one am sure I would never lower myself to crap hack tools or whatever since I seriously hate cheaters

I was asking if the radar tool itself have its black lines come OVER the text or BEHIND it, since if the real tool have the black horizontal & vertical lines hovering BEHIND the text, it means the screenshot is faked since on it the lines are OVER it. If it's not then it its not, I was just trying to help to find a way to proof if the screenshot is real or not :)

And yes most likely only Legie could have edited the screenshots, which wouldn't make any sense at all.
It's just hard to believe that someone would send his screenshots to an admin, which hold proof of the radar thing and wallhack, just sounds a bit too stupid for a respectable player like sombra

Edited by Warlock at 11:46 CDT, 26 October 2008

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vedic - Reply to #851

Or perhaps the players listed above have tested it to see how reliable PB is?

I was asking if the radar tool itself have its black lines come OVER the text or BEHIND it, since if the real tool have the black horizontal & vertical lines hovering BEHIND the text, it means the screenshot is faked since on it the lines are OVER it. If it's not then it its not, I was just trying to help to find a way to proof if the screenshot is real or not :)

I can't even understand what you're trying to prove/disprove. The radar is an overlay, and it's displaying completely correct.

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Warlock - Reply to #1016

wasnt trying to prove or disaprove, was asking if the radar is supposed to be an overlay or not. So thanks for finaly pointing it out that its supposed to.

Thats all I wanted to know with my posts

<< Comment #765 @ 09:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #588

The thing with faking the screenshots really doesn't make sense. SombrA sent his screenshots to Legie who put them up on the site. Legie's IRC chat log shows this.

If you're saying the screenshots were faked, the only person who would have the ability to fake them is Legie (since he was the guy to receive the originals). But why would Legie do this?!? He organized the tournament, he organized Oktoberfest (which SombrA won). It would make absolutely no sense. Legie doesn't have the motive to do that...

There are millions of possibilities that could be applied here and there in this situation. But the circumstances surrounding SombrA's sending of the screenshots make it pretty obvious what happened.

<< Comment #935 @ 15:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Quetz_ru - Reply to #588

Its known issue.

<< Comment #1102 @ 05:37 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #588

As far as the wallhacking is concerned, check the Aerowalk screenshot, MG Ammo box in the bottom right corner behind the CPMA logo.
(you can see its normals there, at a different angle because it's spinning though : http://www.ekgamers.com/images/Shownormals_Sombra_shot.jpg)

<< Comment #597 @ 22:45 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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rolf

~

<< Comment #599 @ 22:52 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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v1ze

iddqd

<< Comment #600 @ 23:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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rep

can't believe no one has mentioned the mg ammo box on the hub screenshot, apart from the name showing up through the wall..

couldn't personally care less about him cheating (since i don't think i ever have or ever will play versus him) IF NOT he provided such comedy comments trying to save his ass :b

<< Comment #602 @ 23:10 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

From now on I trust nobody when I play online, not even the guys that I was thinking they make an exception, like pro players.

<< Comment #604 @ 23:31 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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rep - Reply to #602

you actually play something?

<< Comment #606 @ 00:08 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #604

Right now Vampires: The Masquerade Bloodlines (great game, folks, deus ex kinda, u should try it), but the game connected to what I said before is qlive.
Not just people that "go pro" and participate into competitions are called players, u know?

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Jamerio : - Reply to #606

GGPO+Super Turbo = bliss!

Edited by Jamerio at 00:43 CDT, 26 October 2008

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #607

can't see the image yet but I can sense some jameriotic philosophy already =)

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Jamerio : - Reply to #608

The philosopy is don't let Boxer get you in a corner!

<< Comment #951 @ 16:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #611

oh, u are a pro then, hands down

<< Comment #621 @ 02:14 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #607

Afro Legends is a very good player.. places well @ Evo :D

Evo 2006 against Daigo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3wdoe2qFqo

Evo West 2007 Finals against Jason Cole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgddz-_AJ8

Edited by Aquashark at 02:28 CDT, 26 October 2008

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LoCK - Reply to #607

Oh, you played afro? How did you do against him? =P

<< Comment #663 @ 05:13 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #622

I lost by x2 weak punch in that game, but according to the pro's boxer has the advantage vs dj

Results

but I'm only on my 3rd hour of super turbo since 1994 and I'm on this crappy joypad.

In all fairness I lost other games by more, but yeah he's very good
A good ST guide BTW!

http://www.shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/Super...r_II_Turbo

Edited by Jamerio at 05:18 CDT, 26 October 2008

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LoCK - Reply to #663

Oh, you'll beat him next time. Show him who the real nigga is. ^^

<< Comment #952 @ 16:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #678

rasist!

<< Comment #624 @ 02:35 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #607

btw use these settings to make the games look a lot better

Video -> Select Blitter -> Enhanced
Video -> Blitter Options -> SoftFX Algorithm -> AdvanceMAME Scale2X

<< Comment #655 @ 05:03 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #624

I feel than those kind of settings takes away some of that crisp feeling old pixelated games have. They just make them blurry and actually LESS smooth in my opinion.

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #655

err, no?

arcade games weren't pixelated, they had on board graphics chips doing sprite smoothing/blending.

those algorithms try to emulate those chips effects.

Edited by Aquashark at 05:10 CDT, 26 October 2008

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LoCK - Reply to #660

Really? I learned something new. Yay! =)
Though how I remembered sf2 is how Jam's screenshot is looking like. I never played it in the arcades though. Only on the SNES. *roll eyes*

<< Comment #680 @ 05:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #675

Well Super Turbo was never on snes, this is like promode for Super Street Fighter.Cept this version is actually better :)))))))

Snes similar/same gameplay to arcade, so you can play GGPO on a joypad and have same expereince with timings etc, the only dif is arcade stick vs pad. On and most people on GGPO are pretty good.

Edited by Jamerio at 05:35 CDT, 26 October 2008

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LoCK - Reply to #680

Yeah, dude. I HAVE played super turbo, emulator only though (GGPO and other earlier emulators). I was only talking graphics wise. Guess you got that though. =)

Edit: I have to add that I suck. ^^ I LOVE fighting games and try to follow the big stuff happening in the scene with tourneys and stuff, but I'm lousy at the games myself. I gotta get my act together some day and get my game going in SF3:TS as it's my fav.
Bottom line, I'll show you some day!

Edited by LoCK at 05:49 CDT, 26 October 2008

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tzz - Reply to #624

You mean Scanlines 50%!

<< Comment #729 @ 08:03 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #607

i'd be very very happy if i got afro that low. well done.

<< Comment #1641 @ 07:51 CDT, 26 September 2020 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #606

Bloodlines is an awesome game.

<< Comment #610 @ 00:49 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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rev0x

D:!!!!!! that sucks !

^^

<< Comment #612 @ 01:07 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jamerio :

Legie can you provide the source images that were sent to you please?

<< Comment #616 @ 01:43 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #612

Yes... could anyone paste the images who proves Sombra's guilty?

<< Comment #623 @ 02:16 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #616

Fuck off spaintard!

<< Comment #796 @ 10:17 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #623

No need for racism.

<< Comment #803 @ 10:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #796

Oh, come on Mr. Politically correct. It's not even meant to be racist and you know it.

<< Comment #808 @ 10:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #803

I don't like Pedrosa tho, I hope he never becomes a champion.

<< Comment #981 @ 17:51 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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kaliberr44 - Reply to #808

He won't he always copies setu from Hayden, beside he is only fast in Spain

<< Comment #617 @ 01:43 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cdb35-1-88-174-12-51.fbx.proxad.net)

Mother Poland is proud of you Sombra.

<< Comment #614 @ 01:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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amt

Mother Poland is proud of you Sombra.

<< Comment #693 @ 06:10 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #614

:E don't try to get involve Poland into this

<< Comment #626 @ 03:29 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (ua-83-227-224-71.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)

Gotta love all the spanish players posting trying to defend him. Dont you understand that it makes your whole country look like they are full of retards ? And about Sombras past, maybe he was a decent player. He never achieved anything on international LAN events tho.

<< Comment #631 @ 03:53 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #626

Well, I'm becomming a bit fed up with this whole thing. I think I've proved myself to be a serious person to you all people during the last year. I've been organizing lan tournaments in Spain for a long long time and looking carefully for cheats and rare commands in spanish players cfgs so we could do fair tournaments. Sombra has played in some of my tournaments and he's never used any kind of cheats. Never.

The reason why many spanish players are defending him is because we all know he doesn't cheat. Simple. Most of the people don't really like him, cos as I've said before he's never been too friendly on spanish Q3 sites or playing online, but he's a serious player, he's always been. We don't really care of you ppl calling us retarded or all the racist crap along the post, it's up to you guys to be like that, it's also up to us to trust a player we know for many years.

I really hope someday, if any of you guys are accused unfairly of something you haven't done, you have your whole country to support you cos that will prove that you're more than a name in the stats of a game, that although the trolling in the boards or the arrogance in the competition they really respect you as a person and as a player.

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OmeN_ - Reply to #631

SECONDED

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noxene - Reply to #631

Yezabel just consider the facts

http://quake.own.cz/sombra/

All specs and firebot provided screenshots with correct timestamp

instead Sombra said:

"Yes i sent the mail to Legie, but these screenshots are not mine.
Well i cant do nothing i deleted these screenshots after sending it"

everyone knows there are programs to restore delete
files even on formatted hdd, and a lot of ppl already told him that.

no one in spain suggested him to recover the ssc ?

<< Comment #659 @ 05:08 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #654

Check my last post :)

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becks - Reply to #631

first of all, don't ever let a anon get to you neither from Spain nor from elsewhere.

If you want to stand up for a friend that is fine and an honorable thing to do. But then you should say so.

If you want to treat this seriously that to me means you should treat it objectively. And then it shouldn't matter if you know him personally, but instead you should ask yourself:
1. What would you think if another player you don't know personally was the accused.
2. What would you think if another lan-proven player you don't know personally was the accused.
3. Is there really any hint to point to his innocence, besides your gut feeling and knowledge of him. Like a motive for someone else to fake this and so on.

And if you want to see it somewhat subjectively:
4. How would you expect him to behave if he really did cheat? Like this or differently.

Finalyl, don't let all the "Spain sucks" get to you, this is the internet after all. I'm German, I should know :P

<< Comment #672 @ 05:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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green - Reply to #631

everyone understands it must be pretty gay having the pride and joy of spain destroy himself by an act of unbridled stupidity..

however, when you say things like every player in spain knows he doesn't cheat, when it is so blindingly obvious he does, you come across as mildly retarded.

<< Comment #679 @ 05:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #631

Don't take it personal. Aside from some idiot anons, most people here are in fact looking at things objectively. That's the reason it also creates a backlash to the few people defending sombra, the evidence is too much against him.

Saying that you shouldn't take it personal because the same people also know what you did with gamegune, and how great you made it.

I understand its a hard thing to accept something like this when you have known someone for a long time & that he is/was a respected player. Then again, you can never know somebody completely can you?

Edited by Raist at 08:04 CDT, 26 October 2008

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becks - Reply to #679

some idiot anons most people here are in fact looking at things subjectively

:D

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Raist - Reply to #688

Ok messed that word up, edited :D

<< Comment #699 @ 06:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Cat0r - Reply to #631

I totaly understand the fact that u DON'T WANT Sombra to be a cheater but if you put aside all your emotions for a while and really really look into the evidences presented and his unwillingness to prove his unguiltiness (please m8... he is showing no will -- what so ever -- to do so) you will see the words and actions of a cheater.

I can understand that some spanish players want him to be found not guilty, but I don't understand why you yourselves don't want the guy to present "the lost screenshots" here. You should at least hold him responsible for the sloppiness, arrogance and the ignorance that he shows; by putting some pressure on him to PRESENT the screenshots here. Is that to much to ask you think? I think it's below you dignity NOT to ask this of him due to current the circumstances.

Doesn't he have any responsiblititys at all? Is he perhaps a child not to be blamed for anything, not to be pressured to put forth anything at all? Common you can't be serious... m8 you seem much smarter than what you have come up with so far. You are upset and its blinding you.

Atm you are doing nothing but defending him on the basis of pure emotions...and I understand how you feel, but it would be nice if you also could take a step outside those emotions and dare to look at it from another perspective.

<< Comment #710 @ 06:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #631

No-one on this site will ever discredit your work for the community in terms of organizing LAN events and an amazing GameGune 2008. Should there be another GameGune with Quake3 (or perhaps Quake Live) the thanks and support you will get from this community will equal this year's.

That aside, the whole Sombra issue is completely unrelated. It's true, there are some racist comments, but mainly because everyone defending him happen to be from Spain and a friend of his, hence "spanish idiots". Not that I condone the tone of the posts. Most people who actually care about the Q3 community would actually prefer Sombra not to be a cheater, because the player base is small enough as it is. And as it looks right now, this does not seem to be the case.

Everyone screws up (not everyone will forgive him). But he said himself: "See you on LAN". I for one would actually welcome it, because it is just so much more unlikely that someone cheats on LAN than on the interwebz.

<< Comment #858 @ 11:54 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Warlock - Reply to #631

One thing Yezabel

I know you respect sombra alot, so do I since Ive been friends with him and Hadex for a long time, but even if someone never cheated before on lans / online it doesn't mean that there's no chance he used it '1' or more times. This could have been his first time using this tool ever and immediatly getting caught with it, which is sad .

If a respected player never used a cheat but on one day he does, ofcourse all the people knowing him would not believe it, but on this case so far every proof looked against sombra :(

realy hope that its fake though, since I still have it hard to believe that sombra would lower himself to such tools, but I fear the proof is against him so far :(

Edited by Warlock at 11:55 CDT, 26 October 2008

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jal - Reply to #631

Well, Yeza, yes a no. I for sure know Sombra doesn't need to cheat, as I know the advantage a inPVS wallhack and radar like that one gives is useless for any half-skilled player. But I can perfectly picture a situation where he tries the cheat for fun and forgets to remove it before connecting to the cup game. I've been in this scene since the days of Q2, and while I know D&M never cheated I remember seeing the nWo guys, including evenFlow, having fun at a public Q2 server with aimbots. Not trying to hide it, just having fun. TBH, I, as everyone else in this thread, think the conspiracy theories are overcomplicated and just don't make the cut, so for me it looks clear that those screenshot are real and Sombra had the cheat in during the game. That doesn't make me think Sombra always cheated nor anything like that, nor I loose any respect for him, but the screenshots speak by themselves and Sombra's arguments only helped confirming it.

Edited by jal at 05:41 CDT, 27 October 2008

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Yezabel - Reply to #1098

You should check my last post. I really wanted and still want to believe he's innocent but all I've seen, all I've been shown proves he's not. Anyway he's my friend so that's why I've decided not to talk about this anymore. He'll have all my support if he decides to continue playing fairly and prove everybody what a great player's always been.

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jal - Reply to #1130

I'm sorry. It's very hard to keep track of what is each one's last post in this mess. I just reply to what I see at that moment and think is worth replying. :)

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #626

The weather in all your countries makes you like that?

c'mon... Not all de english or sweden players are like the retards i'm reading here. Please, do not insult spanish people. Insult yourself if u have small dick and do not have real life at all.

Thanks :D

<< Comment #646 @ 04:28 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #640

LULZ BRING OUT TEH RAEL LIFE CARD!!!1

I suggest you take your own dumb advice and get the fuck out.

<< Comment #662 @ 05:13 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #640

Ouch man, that really hurt. Picking on my dick like that. =( I thought I had showed again and again that it isn't small by posting pics on #esreality. But you still have to go there. I'm dissapointed... and hurt, did I mention that? HURT!

<< Comment #734 @ 08:08 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #662

i'd love to pick on your dick (L)

<< Comment #738 @ 08:14 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #734

Dude, lol!

<< Comment #667 @ 05:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #640

defending a cheater, the epitome of "having a real life" :D

<< Comment #703 @ 06:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #667

You can hide wherever you are. RL is hunting people like you every single day :)

Good Luck ;D

<< Comment #1260 @ 11:06 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #626

can you put your nickjust like a guy with ball or you are a cheater and fear ESR news?

<< Comment #629 @ 03:48 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Corey

THIS IS MADNESS

<< Comment #630 @ 03:49 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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stripy

The fact that sombra is a good player, does not mean he didn't cheat. so dont really get the spanish players are trying to defend him by stating that.

I just dont see Legie having cause to falsify a screenshot, or anyone else for that matter. so even though sombra seemed to be a ok dood, its seems he did cheat.

Sombra should have just admited it imo, would have been hes best course of action. this way he just looses more credibility as a person.

my2cents

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shlaeNg - Reply to #630

If anything Legie has a lot of balls to make this public, because cheaters in a league certainly don't attract more players and sponsors.

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Corey - Reply to #647

or he doesn't realize that, no bravery in it

<< Comment #838 @ 11:15 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (90.162.224.130) - Reply to #630

Im spanish and i think he cheats.

<< Comment #641 @ 04:17 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (41.124.broadband5.iol.cz)

Sombra is fucking cheater

<< Comment #643 @ 04:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #641

And you are idiot and nobody complains :D

<< Comment #649 @ 04:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #641

do prdele!

<< Comment #904 @ 13:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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valvalis - Reply to #649

=]

<< Comment #645 @ 04:27 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ted

lets cut his balls off

<< Comment #648 @ 04:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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analyzer - Reply to #645

when you cheat, you have no balls.

<< Comment #652 @ 04:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #648

true :DDDD

<< Comment #702 @ 06:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #652

do you press note of that?

Also press note that liars do not have dick neither. ;-)

<< Comment #794 @ 10:11 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #702

true :DDDD

<< Comment #656 @ 05:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #648

q3scene should get medieval on his ass

<< Comment #1103 @ 05:41 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #648

Are you saying sansai is half a cheater ? (paye ta semi private joke !)

<< Comment #1278 @ 14:07 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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analyzer - Reply to #1103

wai xD

<< Comment #1352 @ 12:53 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1278

8(

<< Comment #653 @ 05:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel

Does anybody wanna check this? You can also watch the demo again with r_shownormals 1.

<< Comment #661 @ 05:10 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #653

i don't get it
what this sst should prove ?

Edited by noxene at 05:12 CDT, 26 October 2008

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Corey - Reply to #661

It proves that he's got skills in MS Paint

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tifu - Reply to #653

does anybody IN SPAIN wanna check this?

<< Comment #669 @ 05:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #653

i don't quite get what you are trying to prove with this?

Edited by fjorgyn at 05:24 CDT, 26 October 2008

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #669

I think the point is that the accusations of WH based on the fact that it says fire_bot's name in the shots are flawed, because using r_shownormals you can see that fire_bot is not actually there (a player model would show up as lots of white lines on the model).

However, this is actually a self evident fact, because the screenshots are taken at the intermission - when all players are spectators, and so there are no player models actually in the map, so clearly the name cannot possibly be a correct WH.

My guess is that the WH only updates periodically or doesn't handle the case of players going spec properly, so r_shownormals doesn't help identify it in this case.

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fjorgyn - Reply to #681

and there is also the mg ammo box which yezabels shot actually shows behind the wall like on the cheat shot ;)

<< Comment #687 @ 05:48 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #681

simply sombra took the sst manually

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #687

No, because clearly sombra is at the intermission, as a spectator, scoreboard up, and "timelimit hit" displayed at the top.

I'm not saying there isn't a WH, I'm saying its got a small bug in it that means the r_shownormals test isn't a good way to confirm it based on players.

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noxene - Reply to #689

i mean manually at the end of the game
a fraction before the bodies are removed

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Anonymous (ua-83-227-224-71.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)

It seems like still the spanish players accept the fact that sombra cheated and are ok with it. I hope big organisations will think twice before putting qualifiers in Spain again, when even the people from Spain who organize LANs are supporting players that cheat.

<< Comment #700 @ 06:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #658

Think you twice if *ALL* Spanish people are cheaters.

Not al the swedish/findland people are murders, neither austrian people are fucking rapers.

right?

Thanks to show us your racism and retard ;-)

<< Comment #706 @ 06:29 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #700

He didn't even say all spanish players cheat you fucking idiot. Are you just this dumb or are you trolling this whole thread?

<< Comment #716 @ 06:54 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #706

Could you please explain me this sentence? Maybe I missunderstood something.

"I hope big organisations will think twice before putting qualifiers in Spain again"

Thanks

Dumb

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LoCK - Reply to #716

Yes, if you read the rest of the post you would know what he was talking about. But let me explain it to you; he was saying that you shouldn't bother with a community that supports obvious cheaters.

Now I don't say I agree with his post. But you are just stupid saying he is saying stuff he's obviosly not. Ok?

Also: you don't seem to speak English that well, so please get a grip of what people are saying before making posts in the future, you come of as an ignorant piece of shit.

Edited by LoCK at 07:04 CDT, 26 October 2008

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DamianLillard - Reply to #706

Are you just this dumb or are you trolling this whole thread?

Can't it be both?

<< Comment #721 @ 07:15 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #720

Can be, but I'd like to think it's not. For his sake. =/

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Anonymous (ua-83-227-224-71.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) - Reply to #700

If you dont understand english or if you are just stupid as hell, maybe you shouldn�t try to make this situation more embarrassing than it already is.

<< Comment #657 @ 05:07 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tyas

whats that yezabel?

<< Comment #676 @ 05:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel

Well, I give up. I've tried to prove that he's innocent because I believed in his word and because I couldn't believe someone so respected in the spanish comunity and someone I've known for years would lie to me that way in my own face. But an international player I really respect and trust in showed me my mistake. My apologies to you all for defending Sombra.

<< Comment #682 @ 05:41 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #676

The other evidence wasn't enough for you? Sigh...

Edit: Apologies accepted... I guess?

Edited by LoCK at 05:43 CDT, 26 October 2008

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Cat0r - Reply to #676

LoCK should really be locked up somewhere, don't bother about him :)))

Btw forget about my last post since it seem to be obselete due to your last post.

You yourself has regained everything by this last post. I have no hard feelings towards you and understand that you were blinded by your own friendly emotions towards him -- I would have been too. I also understand that this must feel very hurtful for you to see and for that you have my sympathies, really.

Peace and respect to you m8 -- and none for Sombra until he steps up and take his responsibilities.

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LoCK - Reply to #698

TO HELL WITH YOU FOR NOT AGREEING WITH YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMAN! ^^

Anyway, I'm one of the nicest persons on this site. I just have a problem with stupidity.

Edited by LoCK at 06:34 CDT, 26 October 2008

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becks - Reply to #707

I'm nicer than you YOU FUCKING RETARDED IDIOT I HOPE YUO DIE AND BURN IN HELL!!!!!

<< Comment #713 @ 06:44 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #709

GOD DAMN YOU BECKS YOU DAMN GERMAN NAZI! I HATE YOU AND ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE! I'M THE NICEST PERSON OF AAAAAALL TIME! I'M GOING TO POOP ON YOUR CHEST IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS FACT! OK?!

<< Comment #905 @ 13:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Cat0r - Reply to #707

You still play q3? I haven't seen you for years :)

<< Comment #910 @ 13:59 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #905

Hehe, it's RARE to say the least. I still enjoy following the scene and speccing games though. I will probably play some more soon. Missed me? =)

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tifu - Reply to #676

so first you belive sombra, because he's respected spanish player, then you admit to mistake when internationally respected player told you that you were wrong... no offence, but start thinking for yourself, all the evidence you need were here all the time

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Yezabel - Reply to #690

No, I believed Sombra cos I know him for many years. And now I apology and see my mistake cos someone gave me proofs I was wrong. That's all.

<< Comment #711 @ 06:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #692

What was the proof that convinced you?

<< Comment #697 @ 06:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Cat0r - Reply to #690

He was blinded by his good feelings towards Sombra. He did the right thing and questioned those emotions; doing so on the basis of so many facts pointing towards the obvious: Sombra really being a cheater... You should honor him for the personal strengh required for such an operation.

He is a true gentleman now let us ALL aknowledge it!

peace ffs

<< Comment #708 @ 06:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #697

how many guys called "Yezabel" do you know? :)

<< Comment #863 @ 12:03 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #708

how many guys do you know called "cat0r"?

<< Comment #975 @ 17:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #863

one.

from ancient rome.

yes, I will excuse your typo.

<< Comment #1035 @ 20:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #975

Cheat

<< Comment #1091 @ 04:45 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1035

:D

<< Comment #1053 @ 23:12 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Venim - Reply to #676

i believe in his screenshots

<< Comment #696 @ 06:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (142.Red-88-9-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)

What proofs?
Can you show them?

<< Comment #735 @ 08:09 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #696

Time to reuse this:

Sorry mario, but the princess is in another castle.

26%

<< Comment #769 @ 09:30 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #696

Let me just cut those eyelids so you can see it.

<< Comment #695 @ 06:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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vOOd

I dont get it, how can you still think he didnt cheat ?

- legie asked ppl on irc to send screens on his email
- 5 mins later, sombra says its done
- then legie takes the screens from his email and put them on the report, where we can easily see cheat.

so, now, explain me how that couldnt be HIS screens ?
- someone else faked his nick on irc ? hardly possible, he is talking about his upcoming match and stuff, doesnt sound like a faker, plus we have his ip (from legies pm) so we can compare with his comment or server log if you can find admin.
- someone else sent the fake screens to legie ? so why legie didnt have 2 mails from sombra ? I know you can easily fake sender email, but still legie would have received the true mail from sombra, and the other one with fake screens.
- legie is a fucking asshole that HATE sombra so he planned all of this to ban sombra for life and have a better life. (for those that dont get it, this is not possible.)

Even if it wasnt his screens, sombra could provide some proof, but he deleted the screens (im sure you all automatically delete your screens after EVERY single game), he could get them back with some soft (undelete+ etc..), he could get them back from his outbox (but I guess he deleted them also just like someone else said). But the only thing he has done so far is giving some ROFL excuses "my father is gonna arrest you!" "I cant be a cheater, Ive been playing for so long, look at my achievments, you must trust me with all the events I played". Come on, just face it, he cheated, and he wont admit it.
And yes he won LAN etc without cheating, but the fact is he cheated on THIS game. After 12 years of Q3, how come you are using cheats now ? I can *understand* ppl using cheats at start cuz they are noobs and unknown players, but after 12 years... you clearly know cheating is even worse than being a witch, BURN THE CHEATER !

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sansai - Reply to #695

TBH Q2 players should shut the hell up. Playing Q2 is even worse.

<< Comment #1104 @ 05:44 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #695

"12 years of Q3"

That was fishy from the start !

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Memento_Mori '

Please stop the crap against spanish players. They are only shocked that someone they know for so long did something like this.
To those willing to defend Sombra, please read the following.
We have a wrongdoer here. The question is who. The number of people that could have the screenshots is limited. I see three options:

1) The wrongdoer is not Sombra, nor Lergie, but someone else (one of the spectators). Sombra confirmed he sent the screenshots. So the only option here would be that Sombra's mail was lost, and Lergie just received the wrongdoer's email containing the faked screenshots. If Lergie confirms that he received the screenshots just a few minutes after the match, then the wrongdoer is not only lucky (that Sombra's true mail got lost) but also quick at faking screenshots, probably having the radar layer already loaded in photoshop. The wrongdoer also faked a second screenshot that he later published within this discussion. This option sounds quite unlikely. Many things could have gone wrong for the wrongdoer (sombra not deleting his own screenshots, sombra�s mail not being lost, etc�).
2) The wrongdoer is Lergie. He faked the whole thing. It appears that there was enough time between Sombra's mail and the public upload of the incriminating screenshots to actually fake them. Compared to the previous, this option is simpler in term of sequence of events, and is technically much more feasible. Though, the question would be what kind of motif Lergie had to do something like this. Unless someone can prove that Lergie had serious clash with Sombra in the past, this option is quite unlikely, though possible.
3) The wrongdoer is Sombra. During this match he used the cheat, he forgot to turn it off, and sent his screenshots incriminating himself. This is the simplest option as it fits the timing of the sequence of events, and is the simplest in all respects (technique and motivation). The open questions here are: Why did Sombra do something like this? Cheating after his long respected career, especially in a tournament like this, a match like this� it makes little sense.

Although it might be hard to accept, given the current evidences, the third option is by a big measure the most probable.
It is true that the witch-hunting atmosphere of this whole discussion makes the thing even harder for Sombra: any word from him makes him look guiltier, and this is not a matter of true facts or evidences, but it the psychological effects of having a jury that declared you guilty before you even spoke. Though Sombra could have reacted in a better way, avoiding legal threats, trying to find something to prove his innocence, or simply by confessing his guilt.
Whatever the truth is, this is a sad story.

Edited by Memento_Mori at 06:31 CDT, 26 October 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #704

SombrA isn't known for his tactics... he's known for his aim. In fact, there's a recent demo of him against Magic/Hack where he was doing impossibly dumb stuff but was getting away with it (now we know why...). Probably a crutch he was using to win these big online tournies, in my opinion. I really doubt he used it a lot, in fact, I think at the 8 minute mark in the ztn game you can see him turn it on. For the first 8 minutes he seemed pretty placid and defensive, after that ~8 or so minute mark, he went on a rampage which led to his victory.

Besides, going to lots of big tournies and LANs doesn't make you good. I've been to quite a few in other games (Halo 1 for Xbox) and there were people there who just genuinely liked the LAN atmosphere rather than the actual competition.

<< Comment #894 @ 13:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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lewl - Reply to #776

I totally agree with the 8 minute mark. I watched the demo and at some point he just stopped for few secs and all of a sudden his whole play style changes and he starts to frag.

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dadS - Reply to #704

jesus take some paracetamol, penis breath!!!

<< Comment #705 @ 06:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Ryan2015

Le partimos los cojones!

<< Comment #719 @ 07:06 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.0.30.251) - Reply to #705

try if u have cojones :D

<< Comment #712 @ 06:42 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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juvenile delinquency

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Edited by juvenile delinquency at 15:13 CDT, 29 March 2019

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LoCK - Reply to #712

Haha, last time someone said that to my friend was at "Hazzard LAN" here in Sweden (he call himself Melkor when he plays, usually go to QH Lan, maby you know who he is?), he ask the guy to come closer and say it again. When the guy got close enough he rose from the chair and delivered a one punch to the guy face, knocking him out cold. Then sat down again to play.
At the time he was playing a DotA game and felt he couldn't just leave his hero hanging out in the field, so he had to move it back to the base. ^^
The police eventually came to the site too.

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juvenile delinquency - Reply to #714

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Edited by juvenile delinquency at 15:13 CDT, 29 March 2019

<< Comment #725 @ 07:53 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #724

I get the hint. ;)

Edited by LoCK at 07:54 CDT, 26 October 2008

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apoxic - Reply to #714

I was there, and I know both Melkor and the guy who got hit :p. Total over-reaction from melkor but then again, the guy has a temper XD.

And lolofftopic!

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LoCK - Reply to #773

lol, yeah! I've studied with him for four years now so I know exactly what you mean. Though I mostly beat him up. ^^ You should have seen him after that LAN, he was so proud. I remembered I laughed so hard! He had a friend with him that became scared and ran away when he hit the other guy, he is such a pussy. lol

Btw, how was the oher guy after he regained consciousness? =P

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apoxic - Reply to #792

I went to his house at like 4am to check how he was doing, when I re-told him the story he was like "what? Nooo, I havn't been hit, stop kidding around" :D

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LoCK - Reply to #816

lol, ignorance is bliss ^^

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apoxic - Reply to #891

Actually, ignorance due to drunkenness and shock from the hit, but yea XD

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LoCK - Reply to #1039

Thats what I meant though. =)

<< Comment #1049 @ 22:08 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1047

Heh alright, had just woken up, sorriez! >.<

<< Comment #798 @ 10:18 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #712

i got nice jumper with logo "de puta madre" :)

<< Comment #814 @ 10:37 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dabra - Reply to #798

De Puta Madre
Nice trademark, awesome sh1rts

<< Comment #860 @ 11:56 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #814

yeep I`m awesome too! joke :D it`s from ebay, think its from spain :) good clothes line, i like it :) and ofcors spain guys are most styled in europe for sure! nice hair cut, nice clothes, girls arent bad too :)

<< Comment #722 @ 07:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Legie

Iam sorry, but really i just doing my admin work.
Screens was on qqc site ~ 17.10 and 2 days ago some guy said me: "what is this cross on the screenshot?, any new cpma modification? ... so i asked some players who know more than me and all know it was a cheat. So i checked email and found - screens was from sombra !! he told it by himself !!! anyway i checked IRC log and he send me screens 5 minutes after game...and yes, it was same sombra who was speaking spanish on IRC with unity and with fire_bott and with me in private message....then i asked all specs to send me screens and they send me screens at once. I dont need other proof!
Thanks and sorry for bad eng. (tired )

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nemecel - Reply to #722

How about comparing IP addresses? If they get logged anywhere, try to compare IRC, email, and Quake adresses from that match (all you can get) and ask Sombra to show his actual IP, so we can discard a huge IRC+email+player faker. Also this could add further drama.

P.D: A screenshot of your inbox with the attached screenshots must have been posted already.

Edited by nemecel at 08:43 CDT, 26 October 2008

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GUArd - Reply to #742

yeah ! what about fingers stamps?!!

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apoxic - Reply to #802

Don't forget DNA.

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GUArd - Reply to #818

yap yap, and DNA!

<< Comment #884 @ 12:51 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #802

WOW a fucking lithuanian. Even if I think he cheated, im being serious you dipshit. If they put all this shit here: http://quake.own.cz/sombra/ , which is really a decent proof (minus the video, what the fuck is the video showing at all?, dumb), a crucial one would be a screencap of Legie's inbox with the screenshots. Even if it seems almost sure he cheated, you can't judge this kind of stuff before getting really anal in the proof department, so bring these fucking inbox caps now. Also, the site http://www.quakequickcup.com/ being blocked as an "unsafe website" adds to the conspiracy theory and also more drama which is always fun.

Your nickname is guard so I dont expect any inteligent reply at all.

<< Comment #941 @ 15:31 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #884

ok, you a right! sorry !

<< Comment #756 @ 09:02 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #722

sif your english is bad because you are tired :p

<< Comment #727 @ 07:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Symbi0nt

So he is banned by PBUID or just by name?

<< Comment #728 @ 08:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #727

lol

<< Comment #736 @ 08:12 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #727

Pb instantly did it's job and banned Sombra ofcourse. Everybody knows punkbuster does it's job completely.

<< Comment #737 @ 08:13 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #727

there arent pb1 servers in cpma ;-)

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Symbi0nt - Reply to #737

I do understand that on public servers the cpma community dislike playing with punkbuster, but in a turnament over the internet - come one. PB is'nt that bad.

If you host serious tournaments you have to use anticheat stuff just because that almost everyone plays under the same conditions.

One guy here postet a screenshot together with his use of the cheat for compasion. The cheat therfore must be knows somehow.

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erok - Reply to #947

4 year old hacks work on pb servers, I'm failing to understand you here.

<< Comment #786 @ 09:52 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Slajer - Reply to #727

I don't think that tourney uses PB GUIDs.
He was banned from there based on a screenshot that doesn't indicate who made it or who sent it.

If there was a PB screenshot showing that, he could have been banned from CB. But apparently there is no link between the player and the cheat (IP/GUID).

<< Comment #739 @ 08:15 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dabra

ESR community just r0x.
Reading all the blames and whines and seeing the "funny" pics u post just make me sad.

GJ

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Raist - Reply to #739

You are free to leave then, Esr community is what it is.

I am not entirely sure if any other place would react much differently to the situation though. Nobody would really pat sombra on the back and say "its ok, we believe you. That admin guy must be lying"

most of the pics are funny to me and are just directed at sombra. If you take them personel for some reason, then you missed the point.

Only valid argument you could make is about the anons saying stuff about spain, and it that case you failed to properly point that out anyway.

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LoCK - Reply to #743

And even if it is about the anon posts it's quite sad to see someone take it personal.

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becks - Reply to #745

and blaming the community for anonymous posts takes the cake

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dabra - Reply to #748

Most of the post are no annonymous, they really mean it, and blaming the whole spanish community for this is just what piss me off.

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DamianLillard - Reply to #750

ESR community just r0x. Reading all the blames and whines and seeing the "funny" pics u post just make me sad.

blaming the whole spanish community for this is just what piss me off.

Edited by Vernon Schillinger at 09:04 CDT, 26 October 2008

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becks - Reply to #750

do this:

- press ctrl+f
- enter "spain" and "spanish"
-look at every post

some actually defend spain, other are more or less plainly sarcastic (if you've read other svalur posts it becomes more obvious),
aaron says he is trolling 3 posts down, lukrek always is
and lock is always angry.

That leaves one anon from sweden.

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LoCK - Reply to #754

I'm never angry you bastard. =P

Everything else I agree with in this post. It's just wrong to say that we are against all of spain because of this. Frankly, I would be suprised if anyone even cared what country SombrA was from. He cheated, that's what mathers. Everybody saying bad things about Spain is, like you said, either sarcastic or trying to be funny (see trolling).

<< Comment #764 @ 09:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #761

seen you profile pic recently? :D

Edited by becks at 09:22 CDT, 26 October 2008

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LoCK - Reply to #764

lololol! How DARE you bring my appearence into this? =D I was hungry and saw food, ok?

<< Comment #839 @ 11:17 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #750

yet its fine for you to blame all of ESR, nice logic lol

<< Comment #744 @ 08:31 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #739

I'm sad someone like SombrA cheated. It's the people supporting the cheater I'm laughing at.

<< Comment #752 @ 08:56 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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MFM

I did a comparison for the ztn map (didnt find the hub demo)
http://xs232.xs.to/xs232/08430/sombra-vs-fire...ey1159.jpg
Spot is at the same location.

Edited by MFM at 08:57 CDT, 26 October 2008

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vOOd - Reply to #752

MFM banned for life, cheater.

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vedic - Reply to #752

That pretty much erases any kind of doubt that there could be.

<< Comment #759 @ 09:14 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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urg

change the past!
[img1]http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/back_to_the_future.jpg

<< Comment #771 @ 09:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Vega

Hi,

I know Sombra since 2001 I have been playing quake 3 since then I learned from several spanish players in a cyber cofee here in barcelona Akiles, Sombra, Logan, Koba they are top players here in spain they team was called MasK at the begining and after D&M. Everyone here knows Akiles was ESWC 2002 second place and second place also 2v2 with Logan , D&M did nice also in several team competitions Sombra played with that team I have seen several tourneys they played in that cyber cofee with my own eyes. I have played lots of games with them and I have seen they won vs several top players arround the world : Logan defeated zero 4 in 2002 WCG , Akiles defeated cooller , Sombra also vs top players.
But the thing is: Why a consolidated player like Sombra who is well known in all quake comunity arround the world wanted to use cheats against a Lituanian or whatever called Fire_bot in a league that has no relevance at all for his curriculum as a player. And if that is true where are the demos of the fight cause a screenshot proves nothing about a fact. I mean its easy to fake a screenshot with Photoshop. Jesus you can even can change faces how is not posible to change a fucking game screenshot omg...
All the e-sport comunity and society is living a contest where everyone can talk and blaspheme about almost everything showing 0 proves just to ruin someone�s life in this case 12 years of quake. Everyone can vote everyone can give his opinion and that makes a lot of posts of people that post instantly and dont know nothing about this problem.
What I want to show is my own opinion of the problem which I think I�ve got good knowledge about it.
For all of those that talks about spaniards, etc . There are retards in all countries I hope you realize about that cause you are one of those.
For all of those who think Sombra cheated please read this. Thanks

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lolvc - Reply to #771

the reason people are generalising all of the spanish into things you dont like is because of people like you (actually everyone supporting him is spanish) posting stupid things after its quite obvious he cheated during that game, OH WAIT, im sorry, i must have looked over on the fact that when you goto lan you are magically blessed with the ability to win every single competition and make lots of money like toxic in q4, thts what happened to him for sure... but anyway, back on topic...

a simple answer to the whole of your post would be:

"he cheated for prizes you moron"

hes not good enough to win that cup without cheats

Edited by nVc at 09:52 CDT, 26 October 2008

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Vega - Reply to #775

Why do you call me moron? I hate you english fuckers youre the true shit in this world and the main of all problems of nowadays go learn some manners.

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LoCK - Reply to #801

lol, raged

<< Comment #805 @ 10:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #801

Why do you call me moron?

Because you are one.

<< Comment #914 @ 14:08 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dadS - Reply to #801

lol, omg, n1 racist, you win the inerwebs!!!!!

<< Comment #1067 @ 01:24 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #801

lol. plussed!

<< Comment #780 @ 09:47 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #771

Um, isn't SombrA the one who should be giving us the fresh demo's and what-not?

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LoCK - Reply to #771

Obviously you don't know anything about this and only go by pitty and emotions for a friend.
I read all of it and still don't know what your point was. This isn't going to change anything. It's your opinion, ok fine. But it's wrong as far as the evidence goes.

I agree about the "retards" part though.

<< Comment #785 @ 09:51 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #771

Simple as this:

SombrA sent those screenshots to Legie (no one else).

Either SombrA is hacker or Legie has some reason to make SombrA look like one.

So, if you're going to accuse Legie of doing this, please read every post by Legie to see what he has done in respects to this situation.

<< Comment #787 @ 09:53 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #771

OK!

<< Comment #790 @ 10:02 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #787

Answer to my post you bitch

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Legie - Reply to #790

?

<< Comment #882 @ 12:47 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #854

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1628320#pid1628320 this

<< Comment #788 @ 09:56 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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fox - Reply to #771

Even if this was about Cooller I would be 100% convinced that he cheated regardless. Past performances don't mean shit when presented with this kind of proof. Sorry, but you need to come to terms with this.

Its either A) Massive conspiracy against SombrA for no apparent reason, or B) A cheater trying to deny his guilt. Wow that last one sure is far fetched. And all criminals are innocent.

Which would you find the most likely if this was not about your friend?

<< Comment #791 @ 10:03 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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fox - Reply to #788

I don't even like using the word 'likely' in this context. This is not about probability at all.

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Vega - Reply to #788

I think its option A Fox as far as I think. You are a profesional gamer answer me then why Sombra has the need to use cheats in that competition?

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LoCK - Reply to #800

It would be of no use trying to explain things to you as you clearly has your mind made up already. It's even a waste of time for me to write this reply to you as you probably still will go on asking stupid stuff.

<< Comment #810 @ 10:27 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #800

is that your only argument for his innocence? what a thick question. to perform better and win maybe? a much tougher question to answer is why legie would try and frame him

Edited by rapidshit at 10:29 CDT, 26 October 2008

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becks - Reply to #800

don't mix up "feel" and "think" please.

<< Comment #831 @ 11:00 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #800

woah you actually think A is feasible WTF

<< Comment #1298 @ 23:50 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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erok - Reply to #800

Because he has no chance of winning without cheats?

<< Comment #825 @ 10:55 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #788

This is the only and true proof and cant be modified at all:

SombrA(POV)-vs-fire_bot-ztn3tourney1-2008_10_14-20_14_30.dm_68

I have been watching it and you must do the same before take wrong sentences.

<< Comment #856 @ 11:52 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #825

Good aimbots smartly used are undetectable even when watching a demo.

<< Comment #1071 @ 03:13 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #771

You're so dumb it makes me cry.

First of you all you try to give us a lesson and not to be racist towards spanish players, the next post you're raging about how dumb and lame british people are. It's sick.

Second you try to give people a lesson about knowing every fact there is to know about a case before giving an opinion. And that's where you fail AGAIN: if you knew it all, you'd know that sombra SENT his screenshot to Legie and he gave screenshot proofs.

Really get yourself a brain that's sick .

<< Comment #770 @ 09:32 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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outlaw

Theres more evidence to support Twin Towers being imploded by explosives than some conspiracy to show this fucktard cheats.

I was hoping he would man up and face the consequences then work to rebuild his character. Too bad hes just crying fake.

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<< Comment #789 @ 09:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #770

Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck are doing here anyway? Just GTFO until you attend an actual LAN.

<< Comment #826 @ 10:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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paulrrrr - Reply to #770

1337 posts :)

<< Comment #1354 @ 13:05 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #826

+ !

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waIter - Reply to #770

guys, sorry, as i told you before, i have some serious incurable disease... since birth... kind of pathological liar and split personality...

but thats not all, i pee in my bed so cant live in hotels, and have some paranoia about vietnam campaign because of my fathers father catch there exactly the same problems as i do...

<< Comment #778 @ 09:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (217.217.80.38.dyn.user.ono.com)

Sorry dudes but there's no solid proof of anything. And the idea of a cheater sending screenshots showing his cheat is laughable, completely absurd.

<< Comment #782 @ 09:50 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #778

You are laughable.

<< Comment #783 @ 09:50 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #778

Anon delivers.

<< Comment #817 @ 10:43 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #778

Its a good thing SombrA showed us through his posts that he is not the kind of moron that would cheat and reveal himself.

It's sarcasm btw and fuck all you spaniards who say that there is no evidence. This shit couldnt get more obvious if it had the batman spotlight on it.

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<< Comment #862 @ 11:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #817

This shit couldnt get more obvious if it had the batman spotlight on it.

ahahahahaahahaha!!

<< Comment #843 @ 11:25 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #778

ye coz them "oh shit" moments never happen

<< Comment #1018 @ 19:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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hnns - Reply to #778

you're right about: "sending screenshots showing his cheat is laughable, completely absurd"

<< Comment #1033 @ 20:37 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #778

Happened in WC3 just a few months ago. Guy took a screenshot of the other player not being in game, and forgot to close the maphack in his task bar.

<< Comment #784 @ 09:51 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Larvi

I really want to watch the demo of ztn now

<< Comment #799 @ 10:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (41.124.broadband5.iol.cz)

facts are hier:
http://quake.own.cz/sombra/

<< Comment #1081 @ 03:55 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #799

jawohl

<< Comment #797 @ 10:17 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tifu

1000 posts go go go
btw. i have nothing against spanish people, but judging just by this thread, spain is full of retards /flamebait :D

<< Comment #811 @ 10:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dabra - Reply to #797

As far as I know, Poland has at least one.

<< Comment #815 @ 10:39 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #811

Come on Rudy, leave your great country, like millions of Polish already did, and come to Spain. You're gonna love it

P.S: Oh wait! there are no more houses to build, so you wouldn't find a job. Rather stay there

<< Comment #830 @ 10:59 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #815

haahhaah true fact

<< Comment #833 @ 11:02 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #815

Yeah but he could always cheat and break the law to earn his living as that seems to be the national standard.

<< Comment #850 @ 11:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (33.Red-79-148-18.staticIP.rima-tde.net) - Reply to #833

Or he could just buy a gun, go to a school, and practice Shitlands national sport =)

<< Comment #859 @ 11:55 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #850

There ya go, believing in a lie by the media. When in fact, the culprit was framed in a conspiracy involving everybody in the world expect the his close friends and relatives to cover up 9/11.

<< Comment #1080 @ 03:55 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #859

lol

<< Comment #840 @ 11:21 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #815

awwwwww, raged ~~retarded cheat symphatizers~~ spaniards, that was too easy

<< Comment #813 @ 10:37 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #797

Judging by this thread, Spain is the new Poland and I'm gonna start eating bigos instead of tacos to accommodate myself into my new nationality.

<< Comment #822 @ 10:52 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #797

Holycrap. Poland vs. Spain EL GRANDE FINALE!

<< Comment #806 @ 10:25 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead

ohmagawd 800+ comments!

<< Comment #812 @ 10:35 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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zengfu

i would really like to have some of those spaniards in the jury if i was ever on trial. "hmm i dont know, dna is only 99.999% sure"

46%

<< Comment #827 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #812

i dont know why but i lol'd

<< Comment #848 @ 11:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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light - Reply to #812

better pray that you ain't on trial for racism then.

<< Comment #1019 @ 19:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #812

Awesome, this is the type of post everyone should be aiming for, so good that even nVc's inane and downright fucking stupid reply couldn't even ruin it.

[++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++]

<< Comment #1046 @ 21:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #1019

i had to google what inane meant :(

<< Comment #1117 @ 06:44 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1046

SHUT IT BOLLOCKS CHOPS

<< Comment #819 @ 10:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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paulrrrr

i wonder if carmac is going to interview sombra for the inside scoop :)

<< Comment #829 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #819

He might get sued for asking the question tho.

<< Comment #828 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sama

Seriously, how can ppl put so much text on this - and who the fuck is sombra anyways?!?!

<< Comment #834 @ 11:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #828

Thanks for the addition :D

<< Comment #837 @ 11:15 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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QuM0

Neither i think Sombra would cheat nor he needed to, but seems he did.
Ive played against D&M several times and they are the greatest quake players ever in Spain,i really "flipo" when i see them playing, but if someone cheats and he is caught he should be banned for life, even from ESReality and expecially from LAN competitions where you can identify him; this game is about fun and honor, we all are gentlemans and anyone who is caught cheating should be banned from our "selected club".

I am from Spain so stop posting "chich�s" about spanish people, this is disgusting.

QuM0

<< Comment #1036 @ 20:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #837

I wouldn't go so far as to ban them from ESR - we need stuff to talk about.

<< Comment #836 @ 11:12 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Makie

WOROLOL sombrinjoooooo! you douchebag :))))))))) cheat next time smarter :)))))

<< Comment #932 @ 14:54 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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666gad - Reply to #836

drop dead kurac

<< Comment #849 @ 11:39 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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stnk

Can someone please do a "Poll" ?

Sombra is:

[ ] a cheater
[ ] innocent
[ ] i don�t know
[ ] victim of conspiracy
[ ] Legie�s victim

Don�t know how to do a poll
And please don�t missunderstan d me Legie, i just want to see what the people think.
<3 for all ur management action in quake

<< Comment #857 @ 11:52 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #849

no please, don't give another chance to retards..

<< Comment #871 @ 12:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #849

I think it's fairly obvious he was framed by Estonian crypto-freemason conspiracy, lead by Al Pacino, Stephen King, Roger Federer and Teletubbies.

11%

<< Comment #892 @ 13:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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stnk - Reply to #871

:D which tubbie was involved most?

<< Comment #898 @ 13:17 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #892

That would be Tinky Winky. He contacted the aliens with the transmitter on his head to give SombrA an anal probe. But why?

<< Comment #918 @ 14:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #849

you could wrap that up:

sombra is
[ ] a cheater
[ ] everything else / i am spanish

<< Comment #847 @ 11:37 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue

hey spaniards, grow some balls and learn to take abuse.
just think about how much the americans and polish have to put up with.

23%

<< Comment #916 @ 14:14 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dadS - Reply to #847

I was just thinking that yesterday, good point.

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Aaron - Reply to #847

hamstahue telling people to learn how to take abuse

how fucking ironic

<< Comment #1116 @ 06:37 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #992

IGNORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #853 @ 11:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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BILLY_LO_

Well before i posted i read them all so far...
First of all this is my opinion, as everyone can have their opinion thinking if he cheated or not.
I know Sombra from long long time ago, all i can say is that for me some screenshots arent enough to make me beleive that Sombra cheated, not only for his playing all this time, but also by the tipe of guy Jordi is...
Jordi"Sombra"Orteu, has been a well known player not only for Spanish community but for a bunch of more players outside the Spain frontiers.
To judge someone i think you got to know a bit of him first, and second you got to be polite and manner about how you do it...
Sorry but most of the post i have seen saying that he is a cheater is always with a Spaniard tard etc etc, That just shows me more a Racist fact than a acussation for a player, Jordi has a good life outside gaming, and by his standards morals, witch i think prolly Spanish know better(Because they know him RL, thats why all who know him defend his innocence).
Jordi is almost 30 years old, im sorry but after 10 or 12 years playing i dont think he risk his full "name" just on a SUPER DUPER inet match vs Mr.WalterPeanutButter.
The saddest thing of all, is that prolly this will affect him and he wont be able to play on the internet again, cause even if someday is prove that you where wrong, there will be always someone who think that he cheated.
This is my opinion as far as i know everyone can have one, and no one should be called tard for that, the admins of this website should take a little bit more care about that kind of stuff.
Im just good cause i know that people that knows Jordi are 100% sure that he didnt do a shit, i just hope that one day all this is clear up :/.

PD: To the "smartest" guys i ever seen that will post some Racist shit about Spain, i wasnt born in Spain, i just live here, but with the post i already seen i just feel ashamed that this kids who live with their Daddys havent learn respect for people yet.

<< Comment #867 @ 12:25 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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a1r-r41d - Reply to #853

ur fucking retarded ???

HOW CANT THOSE SCREENS NOT BE ENOUGH IF THEY ARE FROM SOMBRAS COMPUTER?

<< Comment #870 @ 12:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #853

Check the news comments here ; http://www.d3porte.com/2008/10/sobre-d3porte-y-dream-magic/

What about the racist insults coming from Sombra to french people ?

You say screenshots are not enough, then, what can you say about those evidences ; http://quake.own.cz/sombra/

<< Comment #958 @ 16:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #853

he's 30 years old and he's threatening that his daddy will take legal actions against someone who showed he's a cheater? pathetic

<< Comment #1042 @ 20:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #853

Funny how he almost lost, even tho cheating, to Mr.WalterPeanutButter.

EPIC FAIL.

<< Comment #852 @ 11:45 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold

lol gyus my schrollbahr is soo small right now

<< Comment #866 @ 12:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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spammah

If some of you Spanish guys say that you know Sombra since a "long" time then surely you guys can contact him easily and persuade him to recover the "missing" screenshots by using a data recovery program... whoever's supporting him atm is doing it blindly.

Also knowing someone for a long time doesn't mean jack shit. Stop playing the "achievements" card because the past doesn't have to do shit with what he did right now.

<< Comment #873 @ 12:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #866

exact, every sane ppl is telling the same over and over again:

recover those screenshots
and upload POV demos

<< Comment #868 @ 12:25 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco

I thought I should comment on this. I've never heard of this player before, but since this thread has more posts then the ESWC Finals one did, I guess it's important.

Technically, he could take legal action. This post could be labelled 'libel', but I think everyone here agrees that it would be a complete waste of time, and money, to pursue something like this.

Secondly, I've never hacked before, but I kept reading the name 'OGC' everywhere in this thread. I managed to find a download for it, and tried it out on a local server with a bot.

From my understanding, to run this cheat, you first need to run OGC.exe, THEN browse to the Quake 3 directory within the program, launch CPMA within Quake, then connect to the server.

Now explain this to me. Why would a SPECTATOR connect and join a server running cheats? Even if a cheater was just going to spectate, why would he still launch OGC then Quake 3 then CPMA? You would assume that a spectator would just directly launch CPMA, regardless of if they cheat or not.

I think it's wrong to stereotype and insult the rest of the Spanish community. I think those players still defending him should still get SOME respect. Looks like most of the players defending him are Spanish though.

I believe one of SK's CS players (Or another top teams CS player) got caught cheating during a scrim online once. It was only a scrim, but people were outraged that he cheated. Later, he did an interview (I think it's on SK's site) saying that it doesn't matter if he cheats online or not, his team is proven on LAN over and over, and still wins. I agree with that. If you're playing some random people online for fun/practice, then who cares if you cheat. I think the problem comes in when people cheat when things become "Serious Business", aka, tournaments, leagues, etc.

Unfortunately, Sombra doesn't fall under the good guy place. He cheated in an online tournament/league with prizes. Wrong. If he was cheating playing someone outside of that, then fine, let him do what he wants. But there should be no tolerance for cheaters once they compete in a tournaments/league.

My overall point is, it's wrong to cheat to win something physical (Like prizes and money), and that a spectator most likely wouldn't launch cheats when running CPMA. I could be wrong, I don't know the mentalities of cheaters, but that's just my assumption.

- You're friendly Canadian (FUCK YEAH CTF)

<< Comment #869 @ 12:31 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #868

So it's not wrong to cheat, when there isn't anything substantial to win? It's ok to have an artificial, unfair advantage? It's fine to make fools out of people who just want to have fun playing the game fairly? Sportsmanship, no matter on what level, is a non-factor?

I think that is the highlight of everything that's wrong with this community.

<< Comment #872 @ 12:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #869

Online accomplishments don't matter, both you and me know that. Who cares if he cheats playing randoms in a day. A player that is proven on LAN, and still is proven on LAN, should be respected for his skill. Maybe Cypher cheats occasionally while playing people outside of a tournament. It doesn't matter since he's still proves himself on LAN.

<< Comment #874 @ 12:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #872

Of course it matters. Those 'randoms' are still people, who are getting cunted out of a fair game. I don't give a fuck about how many times someone proven himself on a lan, if he cheated even in one game vs an utter noob nobody, he's still a fuck in my book. Maybe i'm weird, i dunno, i just believe that the game should be played without this kind of shit, no matter what circumstances and opponents.

<< Comment #876 @ 12:42 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #874

To cheat is STUPID but... the man who cheats on a random game, and win, will lose for sure when he's without cheats so, why do u care on what he does...

<< Comment #881 @ 12:47 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #876

Because, for example, when i play online versus a Sombra, i wanna know i'm playing a clean game, and not get a 'hey, i went to a few LAN tourneys, so it's ok for me to cheat vs you' line instead.

You dig?

<< Comment #879 @ 12:44 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #874

My main point was that it's not a big deal if they cheat against randoms outside of a tourmanent. Most of the time they're doing it so cause problems and create anger in their opponent, ruining fun, etc.

Sure, the cheaters are usually assholes with nothing better to do, but like I said before, my main point is that we shouldn't make a big deal of cheaters playing randoms. Unfortunately, Sombra doesn't follow under that. He cheated in a league, with prizes. That's wrong.

<< Comment #883 @ 12:49 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #879

We should. It's still cheating. It's still having an unfair advantage. It's still a real person getting arsed.

I feel really, really depressed to have to write this stuff. :/

<< Comment #886 @ 12:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #883

In all honesty, a single person shouldn't be the one telling a cheater "Hey, you're not playing in anymore online tournaments" because in all honesty, this game should HAVE A WORKING ANTI-CHEAT THAT BANS CHEATERS.

We wouldn't have this problem in PB worked correctly (If at all) with Quake 3. Quake Live should change things up, hopefully.

I do agree with you on the personal traits of cheaters. But, I think our disagreements come when we discuss the severity's of cheating randomly online.

<< Comment #940 @ 15:29 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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outlaw - Reply to #886

What makes you think Quake Live is aiming to give a shit about cheats? It is fucking using punkbuster for christs sake...

<< Comment #968 @ 16:47 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #940

Well so far Punkbuster doesn't give you bullshit FPS drops.

So, as long as they keep it up to date, it will be fine. I'd assume they would care since Quake Live will probably run tournaments within the site in the future, and they wouldn't want cheaters to win.

I'm not saying that I know if they care or not, I'm just saying I'm assuming they do.

<< Comment #1262 @ 11:20 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Tchouky - Reply to #968

so far punkbuster isn't doing anything in quakelive except wasting your bandwith and memory.
At least in q3 it has some detection systems not exclusively based on a blacklist (game code checksums, lookup of specific functions to see if they were hooked or not, etc...)

there are no such thing in qlive and porting a q3 cheat to qlive is a piece of cake. i also know for a fact that some people have already done it.

On the matter of wether punkbuster team cares or not, i'd say that they only care to eliminate most of the cheating going on. That means they will probably detect public cheats and some others but not much more.
PB team doesn't have the incentive, ressources or skill (sry but it's true) to effectively combat cheating. And unfortunately for the esport scene that means "pro-cheaters" will fly under the radar.

<< Comment #1368 @ 17:00 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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SenT!neL - Reply to #1262

i see what you did there in the last sentence

<< Comment #1073 @ 03:31 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #940

I lol'd

<< Comment #1405 @ 22:51 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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waIter - Reply to #940

i have to admit, walter feels here in this topic like a fish in a water)))

professional cheater)))

ps. walter, dont try to teach ppl, because you are nothing and your name is nobody)))

<< Comment #1061 @ 00:18 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #883

I feel depressed you had to. And I've played vs cheaters I've known about (which were eventually busted or not later, doesn't matter) regularly, without really caring.
I even practiced regularly vs clans in which I knew there were cheaters.
But I played them nevertheless, mostly because I had no solid proof so hey, what gives ? Wasn't gonna spoil my fun caring about them.
And actually it was sorta fun sometimes. We really had to laugh about some of the stuff we had to deal with, it almost made some of the games we played even funnier, in a way, and in another way, it made for more challenge.

But to say that it's ok to cheat if there's no money or no "big names" involved ? Depressing's the right word indeed.
Fucking elitist cash-prizes obsessed and full of wannabes scene.

Edited by sansai at 00:19 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #895 @ 13:11 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #879

"My main point was that it's not a big deal if they cheat against randoms outside of a tourmanent."

Usually that person will then cheat against non-randoms later.

<< Comment #893 @ 13:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #868

Gillz it is so hard to understand that they can MODIFY THE SCREENSHOT SOMBRA GAVE THEM WITH ADOBE PHOTOSOP?
I add watch the demo which is the only real proof here:

SombrA(POV)-vs-fire_bot-ztn3tourney1-2008_10_14-20_14_30.dm_67

If u want it post ur mail I send it to you.

<< Comment #897 @ 13:16 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #893

modifying a pic would alter file metadata
and again
all specs and firebot sent sst with correct timestamp/metadata

ztn demo is online
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1622760

where are sombra screenshots/POV demos ?

Edited by noxene at 13:27 CDT, 26 October 2008

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #893

You do realize how long it would take to photoshop something like that. You'd need to create and modify the three layers (The map layer, the radar layer, the score layer, then adjust opacity accordingly, and make sure the name is in the exact same position. This is something that could be accomplished in an hour or two, but not in a matter of 2 minutes.

But it doesn't matter, because the screenshots sent to him were the ones uploaded onto the site. How convenient is it that the ONE time he needs to prove screenshots, is the one time he deletes them?

He gets accused of being a cheater, and his defense is

A) I deleted them
B) I delete all my screenshots.

A is useless. There are countless numbers of data recovery programs. Three years ago I reformatted my drive, and installed Windows XP again. I had forgotten to back up my UT2K4 demos of some good matches. I downloaded a data recovery program, and I was able to get 98% of the demos (Two of them were corrupted).

B is bullshit to. Unless he's dealing with a 10GB hard drive, I highly doubt he's that strapped for HDD space that he needs to delete 200KB files. If he's REALLY concerned about space, he should be backing up his demos on a DVD, and deleting them from this HDD. Don't tell me it's not bullshit when he says he has to save space, so he deleted the SCREENSHOTS, and not the DEMOS.

200kb vs 3000kb. Which one needs to get deleted for space? Exactly.

His reasons for being unable to prove he's not cheating are inexcusable.

I'm being realistic here. I'd have the same opinion whether it be Sombra, Nomadic, DKT, Av3k, or even Walter. I'm not playing favorites here. If someone cheats and spews bullshit, I'm not going to pretend like it didn't happen, I'm going to actually help prove what a lying cheater he is (Aka, I'm pulling a Carmac)

=D

<< Comment #1038 @ 20:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #909

Hell, why go out of your way to delete screenshots instead of just turning autoaction off and using /screenshotjpeg for when you DO need to take one? It's far too fishy.

<< Comment #878 @ 12:43 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #868

so maybe i can take a shit on your chest for fun/practice, hm?
and how i'm friendly canadian?

<< Comment #880 @ 12:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #878

I never said cheating against randoms outside of a league was the right thing to do, or that it doesn't make you an asshole. My point is that randoms shouldn't be taken seriously when cheating, EXCEPT in tournaments and leagues.

I'm friendly, right? =)

<< Comment #1054 @ 23:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Venim - Reply to #880

arent you going to sue gellehsak for stalking you? hows that going

<< Comment #1149 @ 13:49 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #1054

Don't even bother posting something like that when you clearly have no idea what's going on. Please.

<< Comment #954 @ 16:09 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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hnns - Reply to #868

we on #esreality agreed your post is the stupidest of this thread. out of 1000 stupid comments that's quite the accomplishment. congratulations.

<< Comment #967 @ 16:45 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #954

Maybe explaining why it was stupid would give me some constructive criticism. I really could care less what Daryl and Liam think anyways.

<< Comment #1012 @ 19:14 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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hnns - Reply to #967

:)

<< Comment #1021 @ 19:52 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #967

Actually I've only just seen it now and wasn't involved in that discussion, but yeah I'll join in, that was pretty fucking stupid overall.

<< Comment #1031 @ 20:16 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #1021

Once again proving you'll say shit without backing it up.

*yawn*

<< Comment #1114 @ 06:33 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1031

Well if you want specifics, it was the first and second paragraphs that got me, I dunno what it is, but you seem to have some sort of inflated sense of self importance in all of your posts:

I thought I should comment on this. I've never heard of this player before, but since this thread has more posts then the ESWC Finals one did, I guess it's important.

PROCESSING....

CONVERTING INTO INTERNET....

CONVERSION COMPLETE:

"I'm... kind of a big deal."

-Gillz, 2008

Then your assertion that there's even the remote possibility of some sort of extradition of Legie to Spain so he can face charges of posting video game pictures on the internet pretty much just set the mood for the rest of the post.

Edited by Liam at 06:34 CDT, 27 October 2008

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #1114

?

Thanks for not explaining why my post was stupid. Do you even know what stupid means? Your assumption that I'm egotistical has nothing to do with the intelligence of the post.

Maybe it was egotistical, that obviously doesn't relate to it being 'stupid'.

=\

<< Comment #993 @ 18:12 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #954

i guess you missed stelamfanboys post then

<< Comment #1028 @ 20:12 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #993

I'm surprised that there's even people around here who do not have him on ignore yet.

Edited by somebodyshootme at 20:26 CDT, 26 October 2008

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ChOu

Deleted.

Edited by ChOu at 16:57 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #902 @ 13:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #875

WE ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS, OMFG! The problem we are having is with those who still support and defend him. Why won't people get this? Are you not able to read or what?

Edited by LoCK at 13:28 CDT, 26 October 2008

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tzz - Reply to #875

If we start that way, i can start with EEUU ppl because of Bush actions, or maybe, with German ones because of Hitler actions... and so much more...

Yeah, because nobody does that on ESR...

The hordes of oversensitive and raged Spaniards in this thread are disgusting.

<< Comment #920 @ 14:21 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dadS - Reply to #903

you'd of got a [+] without the 'hordes' and 'disgusting'.

<< Comment #1093 @ 04:54 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #920

seeing that he is actually Spanish he deserves it :)

<< Comment #1022 @ 19:56 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Drexciyian - Reply to #875

Is Yezabel hot?

<< Comment #1043 @ 21:06 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #875

The probability of that he just cheated this once, contrary to several times before this seems very unlikely in my eyes.

If he did, he wanted to get caught, and seeing his posts makes me believe otherwise.

Edited by apoxic at 21:08 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #1112 @ 06:25 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #875

You dont know a shit retard so shut up "gran Chou"

<< Comment #885 @ 12:52 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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arachno1d

muhaha, what a pendejo (just learned the word from dexter s03e04 :> )
But great drama ! :)

<< Comment #888 @ 13:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #885

That's as Spanish as big sombreros and tequila...

<< Comment #889 @ 13:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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cK-nomadic

I only wish his past winnings could be confiscated and spread amongst those that placed beneath him in past tournaments. I personally know the frustration of being cheated against and having that guy get away with it, only to be found out later. But finding out later does no good because he has already made off with the winnings.

Banned For Life is getting off easy IMO.

<< Comment #890 @ 13:02 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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fox - Reply to #889

I too know how that feels :/

<< Comment #901 @ 13:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Reyn1r - Reply to #890

You've been a victim of icelandic terrorism. :) ... :(

Edited by Reyn1r at 13:25 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #907 @ 13:44 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #901

El Generallissimo Brown will show you lot that we don't stand for terrorismists!

<< Comment #964 @ 16:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #890

Although it may have felt like it, toxic's lg in Q4 wasn't cheating :(

<< Comment #1074 @ 03:39 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #890

looking forward to fox finally making a mistake like sombra and send his haxed screenshots !

<< Comment #896 @ 13:15 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oreozz

Everyone respected Sombra

Everyone hated Walter

Conspiracy to make Sombra look like a cheater is initiated

Walter still isn't proven as a cheater

!?

<< Comment #906 @ 13:41 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #896

walter is all aim+brain

<< Comment #922 @ 14:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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a1r-r41d - Reply to #896

walter doesnt use cheats.
sorry.

<< Comment #985 @ 17:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #922

Proof will be LAN, until then hes a cheater.

<< Comment #989 @ 18:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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rolf - Reply to #985

you can't prove a negative you dumb fuck

<< Comment #1134 @ 08:18 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #989

Incorrect.

<< Comment #1206 @ 04:51 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #985

Aren't you innocent until proven guilty, rather than the other way around?

If I randomly accused you of doing something say a few years ago, would you be found guilty if you couldn't remember what you were doing on that day?

<< Comment #1375 @ 22:44 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (67.159.5.76) - Reply to #985

Until you can show me a video of you having sex with a woman, you're a faggot that has orgys with massive amounts of gay men.

See how that works?

EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty.

Get it right, idiot.

<< Comment #1377 @ 23:20 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1375

I could upload some, but ask your mother if she would enjoy being all over the internet.

<< Comment #899 @ 13:18 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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uEi~ k1m'Z

la cagaste feo sombra

<< Comment #900 @ 13:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dronesoul

I love this thread with all my heart.

Raged spaniards and lots of funny pictures. \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/

<< Comment #927 @ 14:43 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #900

You wouldnt repeat that If you are in front of me nerd swedish prick I would kick and punch you till KO

<< Comment #928 @ 14:45 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #927

You're a big pussy and you know it.

<< Comment #934 @ 15:09 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #927

Edited by Jamerio at 15:09 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #948 @ 15:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #934

Handsome fighters never lose battles.

<< Comment #1063 @ 00:27 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #948

In Street Fighter 4 they do!

<< Comment #1096 @ 05:03 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #1063

I hope that changes for the home version :(

<< Comment #939 @ 15:25 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #927

reply to my post instead of being a turd

<< Comment #956 @ 16:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Ryan2015 - Reply to #927

LOL Interwebs Threatz are teh awesomeness !!!!!1!!!!11

Edited by Sun Tzu at 16:20 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #970 @ 17:09 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #927

Better STFU... Because of ur comments, spanish ppl are getting closer to ridiculous... so, STFU.

If u want to defend SombrA, is OK, but PLEASE, dont give a shit to ppl who insult the spanish community.

We know, our community is NOT GUILTY about a 1 man's actions so, dont defend the community, defend ur friend if u want.

It's stupid to threat someone @ forum... SO STUPID....

<< Comment #972 @ 17:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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dadS - Reply to #927

even better a raged hypocrite

<< Comment #908 @ 13:53 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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link

holy mother of god this thread has a lot of posts.

<< Comment #938 @ 15:24 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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rep - Reply to #908

sorry to break it to you but god's parents are two homosexual married men who adopted god out of pity..

<< Comment #955 @ 16:12 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #938

FUCK.

i knew something was wrong

<< Comment #1111 @ 06:17 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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fazz - Reply to #938

This is simple not true! Where is proof????

<< Comment #961 @ 16:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Omni - Reply to #908

is it enough drama for you? :D

<< Comment #965 @ 16:39 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #961

yes! need moar chair throwing and screaming though.

<< Comment #1040 @ 20:50 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #908

You wanted quake drama...

<< Comment #1070 @ 02:41 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #1040

<8-D

<< Comment #911 @ 14:00 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

***

Maybe its a bit too late for this, but still, here goes.

wouldn't really think of this, but better to point it out, just in that 0,00001% case sombra isnt guilty, as someone said.

www.quakequickcup.com was down for a couple of days, i remember it, and when you tried to open the page you would get something like "site was under attack" red message. i'd say it was exactly about those dates, after the match.

would it be possible if someone just hacked the site and put the pictures?

more probable than all theories with hacking mail/irc accounts and silly photoshop ideas.

<< Comment #979 @ 17:45 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #911

possible I guess. But that should be easy enough to check, shouldn't it?

<< Comment #1010 @ 18:49 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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TdM - Reply to #911

i thought legie uploaded the screens to the page after he received them via irc. if the site got hacked he would have realised it yet.
... unless he deleted the ss after he uploaded them and forgot how they originally looked like :>

<< Comment #913 @ 14:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead

Only jealous euros think walter cheats because they realise he is the biggest quake talent since Thresh.

<< Comment #915 @ 14:09 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #913

yeah.

and superman is the strongest man on earth, also.

<< Comment #917 @ 14:16 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #915

No, there was wirus from some russian hacker and it was easy java script. And I remember if i get a screens and resize it to 482*xxx and there was "radar" but i didnt know what it is ! so its not posible.

<< Comment #929 @ 14:47 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #917

You replied to the wrong post.

<< Comment #983 @ 17:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #929

no, he's talking about superman

<< Comment #1084 @ 04:06 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #983

!

Edited by Dem0n- at 04:09 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #923 @ 14:38 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Corey - Reply to #915

Sta se raspravljas sa ovima kada su trollovi sve preuzeli : )))
btw jos mi nisi poslao ono!

<< Comment #919 @ 14:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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valvalis - Reply to #913

One thing is sure: he has got BY FAR the best movement i ve seen

<< Comment #924 @ 14:40 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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koji

who will get the 1000th post ;)

<< Comment #925 @ 14:42 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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�ke Vader

Sombra for president. He will get as (in)famous as Ilf in QW!

<< Comment #931 @ 14:53 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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vkl

dang...it never stops

Edited by vkl at 14:54 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #933 @ 14:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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puritan '

NOES! YET ANOTHER CHEATER CAUGHT!

http://quakequickcup.com/index.php?page=duel2_match28

<< Comment #937 @ 15:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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T-B0N3 - Reply to #933

haha :d

<< Comment #942 @ 15:32 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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noxene - Reply to #933

what a meme \o/

<< Comment #943 @ 15:33 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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arachno1d - Reply to #933

lol

<< Comment #971 @ 17:12 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #933

lol

<< Comment #936 @ 15:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg

Comment #1000 GET incoming.

<< Comment #946 @ 15:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #936

FAIL

<< Comment #949 @ 16:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #946

Didn't mean my own post. :<

<< Comment #957 @ 16:20 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #949

I know, just getting into the 4chan vibe.

Also FAIL

<< Comment #1044 @ 21:13 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #957

SAGE

<< Comment #959 @ 16:25 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Reyn1r - Reply to #936

This thread is slowing down too much.

Edited by Reyn1r at 16:26 CDT, 26 October 2008

66%

<< Comment #986 @ 17:59 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #959

hahaha [+]

damn H.

<< Comment #944 @ 15:35 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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gnarf

Look, the herd is gathering around the cyber-pillory!

<< Comment #950 @ 16:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

anonymous ftw

<< Comment #953 @ 16:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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XeroxHands

I don't necessarily know what to believe in this particular case, but dumber things HAVE happened :-/

<< Comment #962 @ 16:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Stuyvesant

Hi

<< Comment #960 @ 16:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

erm, what happend? I quit quake for 3 weeks and now i'm back. Can someone fill me in. I dont' want to read 1000 posts. Thx in advance.

<< Comment #963 @ 16:37 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #960

Watching pictures should be enough.

anyway :
After a online game Sombra sended his 2 screenshots to the admin.
We can see on both screens giving by the admin as being the sombra's ones a cheat (radar + wallhack)
Sombra said for defense he deleted his screens, and that both screens are not what he send, but he can't proove it and don't say a thing about recover them.
Some spanish people said they can't believe he cheats, other people (97%) are more or less bashing.

2 url to know :
sombra's screens : http://quakequickcup.com/index.php?page=duel2_match2
all evidence (all spec screens etc) : http://quake.own.cz/sombra/

<< Comment #969 @ 16:59 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #963

rofl!! is that a facking radar ??? incredible! if this is true, that's sad. Sombra has been around for such a long time.......=/ and he hasn't provided his screenshots by saying he deleted them after sending them to legie?? that smells of bs. how the hell do you delete them ??? rofl. thx. i guess i'll browse throough some of the posts.

<< Comment #966 @ 16:45 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tom

it seems like a long time since the World's greatest gamer poll. esr needed some controversy

<< Comment #1037 @ 20:44 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #966

Needs a Greatest Cheater competition/poll thingy!

<< Comment #973 @ 17:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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noxene

the truth

Edited by noxene at 17:27 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #976 @ 17:37 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tifu

hope i dont get sued for this :x

Edited by rudy at 17:38 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #980 @ 17:48 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #976

And, where's the humour? Dont get you m8... Maybe Polish humour is hard to understand :/ i prefer the italian one that's over you...

You Fail...

<< Comment #991 @ 18:05 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #980

it's suppose to be mean, not funny

<< Comment #996 @ 18:21 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #991

Hm... gz

<< Comment #1034 @ 20:37 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (dmc157.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) - Reply to #991

you failed big time

<< Comment #1008 @ 18:46 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sudstah - Reply to #976

YOU CHEATING BASTARD SOMBRA

<< Comment #1078 @ 03:48 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #976

omfg this made my morning, thanks :D

<< Comment #1223 @ 07:20 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #976

hey /b/tards spamming this gruop
Hey Faggots,

My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Edited by Vernon Schillinger at 07:21 CDT, 28 October 2008

<< Comment #1263 @ 11:23 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #1223

http://lemmycaution.files.wordpress.com/2008/...essful.jpg

<< Comment #1272 @ 12:36 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #1263

ESR censorship = fail :/

<< Comment #978 @ 17:41 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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panCho

"Donde esta el zapateria?"

<< Comment #984 @ 17:58 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #978

Bing tiddle tiddle BANG
Bung tiddle tiddle bang
Bung tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle
Bung tiddle tiddle BONG
Bung tiddle tiddle bing
Bung tiddle tiddle bang
Bing (tiddle tiddle)
Bang (tiddle tiddle)
Bong (tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle)
Bang bong bing (tiddle tiddle)
Bang (tiddle tiddle)
Bong bang (tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle)

Bing tiddle tiddle BANG
Bung tiddle tiddle bang
Bung tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle
Bung tiddle tiddle BONG
Bung tiddle tiddle bing
Bung tiddle tiddle bang
Bing (tiddle tiddle)
Bang (tiddle tiddle)
Bong (tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle)
Bang bong bing (tiddle tiddle)
Bang (tiddle tiddle)
Bong bang (tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle)
Bong bang (tiddle tiddle tiddle tiddle)

<< Comment #982 @ 17:55 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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judge717

Sombra would be a Palin supporter if he lived in the US.

<< Comment #988 @ 18:01 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #982

More like OJ Simpson....THE GLOVE DIDN'T FIT!!!!1

<< Comment #1233 @ 08:21 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #988

More like, Barry Bonds... that guy obviously never took steroids. You can't prove it, even though he gained 100lbs of muscle mass in 5 years.

<< Comment #987 @ 17:59 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Jazka

http://link1n.free.fr/delete_your_screen.jpg

it's mine, not lk one, tx to him for the space

Edited by Nicky at 01:16 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #994 @ 18:14 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

god damn it (c) Cartman

<< Comment #995 @ 18:19 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #994

Screw you guys, I'm going home.

<< Comment #998 @ 18:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #995

you are most certainly not!

<< Comment #1005 @ 18:31 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #998

True, was waiting for #1000. :D

<< Comment #1006 @ 18:34 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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koji - Reply to #998

FUCK

<< Comment #1056 @ 23:42 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #998

winrar

<< Comment #997 @ 18:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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[TA]STiNGS

1000!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #1001 @ 18:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #997

^^

i win.

<< Comment #1599 @ 07:24 CDT, 19 May 2017 >>

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sonic - Reply to #1001

nah

<< Comment #999 @ 18:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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[TA]STiNGS

1000!

<< Comment #1000 @ 18:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Nukm

damnit, the guy who didnt even try got it :o

Edited by Nukm at 18:23 CDT, 26 October 2008

<< Comment #1004 @ 18:29 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1000

i was undercover!

<< Comment #1600 @ 09:05 CDT, 19 May 2017 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1000

well well well

<< Comment #1601 @ 11:08 CDT, 19 May 2017 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #1600

huh

<< Comment #1602 @ 13:14 CDT, 19 May 2017 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #1601

People were going for comment #1000. Then someone deleted his post and you got #1000. ;)

<< Comment #1603 @ 04:40 CDT, 20 May 2017 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #1602

yep, happened multiple times actually, im surprised this got dug up again.
but hey, whats your qc nick again? wanted to add you after we met but t1e is appearently too short :o

<< Comment #1002 @ 18:23 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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[TA]STiNGS

lolololol 999 and 1001
epic fail

<< Comment #1003 @ 18:28 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1002

the epicest of all epic fails :D

<< Comment #1011 @ 19:02 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1002

Mouahahaha :D PWNED !

Did Lethe used a cheat for the 1000th or not ? We need demo and screenshots !!

<< Comment #1041 @ 20:51 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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puritan ' - Reply to #1011

And an .avi of Lethe making that post.

<< Comment #1146 @ 13:43 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #1041

i accidentally deleted it and no, i cant download software that recovers it, for some reason. and my father will sue you if you dont trust me.

<< Comment #1231 @ 08:14 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1146

Someone compare ESR user logs to see who posted what and at what time!!!

<< Comment #1290 @ 17:07 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1231

haha lolograde :p

I just checked the logs :

[TA]STiNGS Comment #999 @ 00:22:01.200 CET, 27 October 2008
Lethe Comment #1000 @ 00:22:02.100 CET, 27 October 2008
[TA]STiNGS Comment #1001 @ 00:22:02.150 CET, 27 October 2008

Imho, Lethe used xerp, and he has a better ping than Tasting.

So please, remove xerp from ESR !

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 17:09 CDT, 28 October 2008

<< Comment #1324 @ 10:18 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1002

Have you tried to delete your 999th post, to see if your 1001th become the 1000th one ? o_O

<< Comment #1009 @ 18:48 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

can i has radar?

<< Comment #1013 @ 19:16 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (214.Red-83-38-19.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)

Sombra cheater and retard, nice combo.

16%

<< Comment #1015 @ 19:22 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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hnns

when did esr turn into 4chan

<< Comment #1023 @ 20:00 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1015

fuck you newfag

<< Comment #1045 @ 21:17 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1015

When did 4chan turn into ESR

<< Comment #1083 @ 04:06 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #1015

4chan was down some hours yesterday. i guess thats why

<< Comment #1024 @ 20:08 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sinoXy

Sombra cheated. He had the wallhack ready and made the game seem hard on purpose, so it looked like he earned the win instead of coasting easily with the hack.

Wallhack on hub is fucking stupid though. I can see the need for it on ztn but on hub it probably hurt more than it helped.

Anyways, who gives a shit? call me when you catch Walter.

<< Comment #1025 @ 20:09 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Stev

1025 posts already. WAY more than the Athens masters thread.

Some things never change. People love the drama more than the game. :)

<< Comment #1059 @ 23:57 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1025

Drama ? This is fucking epic !

I don't care about the cheating itself. It's the way it was spotted. It's just too good.

<< Comment #1060 @ 23:59 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1059

Oh and the court thing. Fucking epic. This is way too good to be true.

<< Comment #1064 @ 00:31 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1060

Oh and the picmip 3 thing too. This is getting legendary.

<< Comment #1068 @ 01:28 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Stev - Reply to #1064

I know; It's all so delicious.

The "I am from Spain" pic sealed it for me.

<< Comment #1079 @ 03:51 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1068

True, I was just lolling the whole time was reading the posts. Just awesome.

<< Comment #1048 @ 22:04 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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v1ze

idkfa

<< Comment #1052 @ 22:54 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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LukKe

awesome

<< Comment #1055 @ 23:29 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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Venim

we need a match between walter and sombra to see whos the better cheater

<< Comment #1357 @ 13:26 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #1055

the winner will be decided not by who has the most frags, but by who sells legitimacy the best.

<< Comment #1058 @ 23:56 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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sansai

By the way : "I'd also like to thank Sweden Fox, Germany K1llsen, Poland Thrawn, Hungary Dash1 and the others for helping me to discover this. "

All those people were needed to spot something that obvious ? Man, aging doesn't do no good to progamers either. :o

<< Comment #1069 @ 01:46 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

oh fuck off you guys! too much pluswork in this thread

GOD DAMN

<< Comment #1072 @ 03:22 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1069

Noo they be stealing mah plusings!

<< Comment #1077 @ 03:47 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold

Edited by MarzenGold at 03:48 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1082 @ 04:00 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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filo

yep drama, man i thought i quited wow years ago :>

<< Comment #1085 @ 04:10 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n

This thread is awesome !

Edited by Dem0n- at 04:13 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1086 @ 04:13 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Zonic

I can't believe I just read through all comments :)

And to mee it's kind of obvious that Sombra did cheat :/ Snoop!

<< Comment #1090 @ 04:32 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #1086

wanna cybar?

<< Comment #1088 @ 04:23 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Arcita

what a bitch... haha. Then he talks about how is dad is going to sue

<< Comment #1089 @ 04:32 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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vkl

don`t slow down now

Edited by vkl at 04:34 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1105 @ 05:52 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Memento_Mori ' - Reply to #1089

You cut the nose of that poor kitty, you drama addicted scum!

<< Comment #1108 @ 06:02 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #1089

Indeed you are adobe photoshop true profesionals in every screenshot you post.

<< Comment #1136 @ 12:43 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #1108

under 1 minute of work...what do you expect....but just keep on reading...more to come!

<< Comment #1168 @ 16:10 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #1108

omg yer right. i bet they framed your boyfriend

<< Comment #1101 @ 05:24 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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kentauruz

LOL

(c)

<< Comment #1106 @ 05:55 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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[mash]

i'm not convinced.

<< Comment #1153 @ 13:58 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #1106

Well you think walter is legit, which proves how much of a fucking moron you are. But yea, "you're not convinced" and we're all dying to know why... idiot.

<< Comment #1157 @ 14:18 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #1153

i'm convinced now ... that you're dumb.

<< Comment #1161 @ 15:10 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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cK-nomadic - Reply to #1153

"Well you think walter is legit, which proves how much of a fucking moron you are." - I lol'd.

Thats a [+]. But Mash is a special kinda guy that needs to be beaten over the head a few times until he "gets it".

<< Comment #1273 @ 12:47 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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micke - Reply to #1161

are you saying he's spanish?

<< Comment #1107 @ 05:59 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Vajra

I love it how every single busted botter situation pans out in the same way. The caught player claims to be the victim of a conspiracy/jealousy & recruits clan mates and/or countrymen to give "character witness"

Who was it who busted himself exactly like this, years ago.
He was stoned and sent the screenies /w the hacks on to his opponent?

Edited by sleipnir at 06:00 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1150 @ 13:51 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Melted - Reply to #1107

satan?

<< Comment #1109 @ 06:08 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

to counter the Spanish faggotry in this thread..

edit: apparently they cheat at boobs too.. damn! =/

Attached Image: 67271-vivaespana.jpg (471KB)

Edited by Aquashark at 16:48 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1110 @ 06:16 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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KekS - Reply to #1109

are those gay guys holding hands behind the chick?

<< Comment #1127 @ 07:34 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #1109

boobjob, eww.

<< Comment #1165 @ 15:48 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dabra - Reply to #1109

Those are fake boobs!!!
We're gonna ban that chick from Spain FOR LIFE!!!

<< Comment #1113 @ 06:29 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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amt

Well, i guess history of sports too can be revisited ...

Edited by amt at 06:31 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1118 @ 06:45 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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elFary

you guiris stop insulting spanish people... we are not guilty of this...

<< Comment #1124 @ 07:22 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #1118

Shutup you moronic Spaniard.

The behaviour of the Spanish in this thread is so typical of our Iberian friends, you guys are worse than the Poles and the French put together.

<< Comment #1139 @ 12:50 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #1124

A fucking polish talking about behaviour go eat some more Stallin comunism tard.

<< Comment #1142 @ 13:18 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #1139

Full Name: Andrew Evans
Age: 21
Location: London
lolwut

<< Comment #1151 @ 13:52 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (233.Red-79-156-156.staticIP.rima-tde.net) - Reply to #1139

LOL
He's not polish, he's english, and you are a complete retard, but keep on posting plz, I'd really like some more comunist related stuff...

Come up and see me, make me smile
Or do what you want, run on wild

PS This is by far the best thread in ESR history :)

<< Comment #1145 @ 13:42 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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SenT!neL - Reply to #1139

=(
cunt

<< Comment #1154 @ 13:59 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1139

MORE FRANCO PLZ

<< Comment #1159 @ 14:43 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #1139

Wow, you just can't stop being a complete idiot can you?

<< Comment #1163 @ 15:21 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1139

dumbest

<< Comment #1471 @ 23:54 CDT, 24 September 2009 >>

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linkoo - Reply to #1124

looking through this and just realised, you know most of these are probably sombra himself, created account the same day and started trolling here. HEHE

<< Comment #1115 @ 06:34 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Khorney

Sombras favourite rockband.

Edited by Khorney at 06:35 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1119 @ 06:48 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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reyu

someone just randomly reply to me that I don't need to scroll down fucking 1000+ post the next time I wanna read it more

<< Comment #1120 @ 06:55 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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snapcase - Reply to #1119

sure, why not!

<< Comment #1122 @ 07:08 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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elFary

look at this foreign animals coming to spain to drug and drink lol
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=5zbwjnpG5zQ

<< Comment #1128 @ 07:37 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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skint - Reply to #1122

wow most irrelevant post yet

<< Comment #1160 @ 15:00 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #1122

that's the equivalent of running away.
'hey Adolf, what've you done to them jews m8?'
'ooohh look over there, a butterfly!'

<< Comment #1121 @ 06:58 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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kentauruz

woot

<< Comment #1123 @ 07:19 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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knallebumm

sombra is only the funny peak of the iceberg

Edited by knallebumm at 07:24 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1125 @ 07:30 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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rzelky - Reply to #1123

wow, coz that is a fcuking rocket science , jaysus ... ppl are interested in the game they play, they want to know not only about how to shoot at prodm6, but also how to set up servers, what is pukbuster, how to do a config, what is wallhack , etc ...
I myself used ogc_bot on LAN ... in my apartment ... on a 1v1 lan ... so, we drink some beers, we get stoned .. i fire up my ogc bot and play against my friend that always pwns me ... after hearing "zomg wtf nice ffs !!!" , beating him xx: -2 and finally letting him know that i used an ogc after like 2hours of lan ... well we had tons of laugh... i dont feel bad and think it was worht it ..

so thats that :)

BTW: classy edit , lol

Edited by rzelky at 07:31 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1135 @ 08:19 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1125

Goddamn Poland is really dumb these days.

<< Comment #1140 @ 12:50 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Dux_

Osombra Bin Laden

<< Comment #1129 @ 07:52 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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_Rapid_

i was impressed with the last results of sombra, because i play them and i know it's a good player but not that much. But i trust him when some people say that he cheats with rail and lg....

now i have to say that what a fresco! and very intelligent to send screenshots with radar activated! jajaja....

i'm sorry because i'm a spanish guy and i know most of us never used any cheat, so not nice for sombra to do that.

Edited by _Rapid_ at 08:09 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1137 @ 12:44 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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vkl

moar

Edited by vkl at 12:45 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1141 @ 13:05 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #1137

listen, friend
if this was 2005
i would say this lolcats thing is getting fucking old
but it isn't
it is 2008
so i don't know what to say
except go away
go away

<< Comment #1144 @ 13:29 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #1141

i don`t recall being your friend, but thanks for the reminder. next time i`ll use a rat, more your style stinkin canal rat

<< Comment #1164 @ 15:36 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #1137

would you tards PLEASE resize your images to reasonable sizes

<< Comment #1182 @ 18:11 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #1164

would mongo pleaze use 21st century resolution!

<< Comment #1256 @ 09:58 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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mnemjc - Reply to #1182

i use 1680x1050 and its still way to huge

<< Comment #1143 @ 13:19 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Drexciyian

Bet theres loads of cheats out there, plenty of backwards countries playing q3 now days like the united nation of tr1ppy

<< Comment #1147 @ 13:47 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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cyronix '

As long as there are online competitions,
there will be cheaters, especially if there are real prices.
It's LAN where it's at!

<< Comment #1152 @ 13:55 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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cyronix '

Btw, in cycling it's the same with spaniards,
they back up their professional cyclists who dope,
they do all know their cyclists cheat,
yet they back them up with all their power,
official institutions, people with high diplomas, having been on university, who have studied sports, having a big background on life, yet same crap as the mafia.
Spaniard Mentality: Who care's if it is unfair, as long as it is in my favour :-)

<< Comment #1177 @ 17:24 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1152

Yeah sure... -.-

<< Comment #1276 @ 13:44 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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jal - Reply to #1152

That's why we won the last 2 tours, which are the competitions with more anti-dopping tests in history of sports, yeah.
Stop the envy. Yeah, we are EC champions, ye we won the Tour, yeah, we are bascketball's world champions, and ye, we've got Nadal too. Don't hate us for being too good ;)

<< Comment #1155 @ 14:03 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Khorney

Over 1100 comments? What the hell? AWESOME!

<< Comment #1156 @ 14:04 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dem0n

2008 is the official Spain year for drugs and cheating in every sport \o/

Btw if you want another proof of it, go check the football game BEL vs SPA and see how the referee happily made invalid a 2-meters-free offisde goal made by belgium 20 minutes before the end of the match and made them win afterwards.

FUCK YOU SPAIN. YOU DESERVE NUTS

<< Comment #1162 @ 15:17 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1156

Dude you are not the fucking Maradonas out there in BEL. SPA is overally a better team anyway.

<< Comment #1193 @ 03:20 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1162

ROFL ! And how does that make this match any fair ? We still deserved to win or get one point on this match. It is very likely you didn't watch a fucking second of that match nor any other lately. So you better be quiet.

The fact this HUGE mistake wasn't taken into account in ANY media internationnally just shows how fucked up football is becoming.
The funnier is the denial though. We dominated the fuck out of them spanyards and none gives a fuck if this game was cheatd cause hey! It's little belgians vs giant spanish heh.

Edited by Dem0n- at 03:24 CDT, 28 October 2008

<< Comment #1199 @ 03:55 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1193

nothing special here people just a butthurt football fan.

You see them everywhere these days.

<< Comment #1277 @ 13:47 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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jal - Reply to #1199

Hey, football is great. Specially now :P

<< Comment #1217 @ 06:34 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #1193

lol@belgium

<< Comment #1221 @ 07:00 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1217

that's what they all said before the last Q3CTF NC though :x

Edited by Dem0n- at 07:01 CDT, 28 October 2008

<< Comment #1236 @ 08:46 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1221

and this is after the last Q3CTF NC.

lol@belgium

:]

<< Comment #1224 @ 07:21 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1193

I dont need to see anything to state BEL is totally crap compared to SPA in football.

<< Comment #1239 @ 08:54 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1224

This used to be true,I have to admit.
Tough we don't have 1/20 the money spain spends for football.

I'm being very irrelevant in my statements but yours are even worse.

<< Comment #1166 @ 15:54 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (217.Red-79-152-173.staticIP.rima-tde.net) - Reply to #1156

HAHAHAHA what a retarded !
Yes, it's a global conspiracy. How did you notice it? =)
Idiot.

<< Comment #1167 @ 16:02 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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dabra - Reply to #1156

Yes, u deserved to win that game for sure. U got awesome players over there in... oh yes, Belgium.

PS: No.

PS2: Retard.

Edited by dabra at 16:04 CDT, 27 October 2008

12%

<< Comment #1191 @ 03:15 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1167

rofl you can thank the referee for making you win, else you'd have just shut your fucking mouth up, cause you obviously stolen the match, idiot.

<< Comment #1170 @ 16:23 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #1156

lol@belgium football team

<< Comment #1192 @ 03:18 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1170

lol its not like The Netherlands have much more to be proud of in terms of sports \o/

<< Comment #1194 @ 03:21 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1192

At least they have a football team eh.

Also in before americanes, *soccer.

<< Comment #1220 @ 06:58 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1194

Well we got lots of football talents now who just joined the A team so we'll see if we don't have one either now. We obviously havent had a team for the past 6 years but I think this shit period is over now :).

We have a shit team ? Most of em are evolving with some of the best european clubs... The thing is that is a whole new generation and they will surely prove you wrong in a near future ;)

Isnt Timmy Simmons playing in PSV Eindhoven ?
Aren't Jan Vertonghen and Thomas Vermalen playing in Ajax ?
Aren't Pocognoli, Dembele and Swerts playing in AZ Alkmaar ?

I'm not naming some bayern munich, manchester city or everton key players...

Btw the netherlands football team is my favourite one so anyway we should just stop trolling :)

<< Comment #1240 @ 08:56 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1220

Actually, I don't really follow football, I'm just acting on past experiences :P
So yes, lets stop trolling.

<< Comment #1222 @ 07:03 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #1194

It's called football you know.

<< Comment #1490 @ 03:03 CDT, 21 July 2010 >>

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if-22 - Reply to #1192

Vice World Champion! =p

<< Comment #1493 @ 05:34 CDT, 21 July 2010 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1490

LOL you had kept this message so long to tell me that? :P

I was cheering for NL the whole time anyway, and I was disgusted out of my mind that they lost to Spain ;(

Anyways 2014 is Belgium's !

<< Comment #1173 @ 17:02 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Malice - Reply to #1156

U srsly played the belgium soccer team card about 2 years too soon.

Even then, if the new team reaches it's limits it'll still massivly smash dunk fail (sombra style) against any above average european soccer team.

<< Comment #1248 @ 09:34 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #1156

What do you talk about spain tard.
What you�ve got in Belgium ? Shit weather , nobody cares about Belgium people , you�ve been nothing in history ...
Oh yes you�ve got Jean Claude Van Damme Brussels muscles yeah!!

<< Comment #1258 @ 10:11 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Malice - Reply to #1248

alrighty franco, can it.

<< Comment #1257 @ 10:07 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Torzelan ' - Reply to #1248

oh god yes van damme
:D____\___|

Edited by TorZelan at 10:08 CDT, 28 October 2008

<< Comment #1268 @ 11:50 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1248

Lol, you can thank Belgium for allowing Spain to be incorporated in the Europe Union, RETARD ?

You were a shitty poor country, u would not be able to have such a good economy without us, so go eat shit and die moron. :)

About our history, Belgium's history, as a country, only begins in 1831, idiot, thus we can say our history is to be shared between france and the netherlands mostly... Get a fucking brain, you're totally irrelevant in your sayings.

How is your History any nicer than ours if we compare it by country history ? Spain was still ina fucking dictatorship 30 years ago.

PLZ know your place :)

Edited by Dem0n- at 11:55 CDT, 28 October 2008

<< Comment #1291 @ 17:43 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (201.Red-79-155-192.staticIP.rima-tde.net) - Reply to #1268

you can thank the referee...blahblah

you can thank Belgium for allowing...blahblah

I can see a pattern here :)

You can thank yourself for being a complete idiot ;)

PS. IDIOT =)

<< Comment #1302 @ 04:28 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1291

atleast I ain't insulting people through internet as anonymous :'(

Funny how this spanish guy said the very same thing as I did but I get the anonymous fagget's reply :'(

Edited by Dem0n- at 04:29 CDT, 29 October 2008

<< Comment #1293 @ 18:17 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #1268

Yes the only history u know about spain is franco that means your knowledge increases at infinitum.

<< Comment #1303 @ 04:32 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1293

it hurts heh

<< Comment #1315 @ 08:30 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Vega - Reply to #1303

What hurts? Thx to franco we evaded Stallin comunism which was a fact if he lost civil war. Go learn some maybe u talk too much without 0 knowledge of facts.

<< Comment #1319 @ 09:32 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #1315

without 0 knowledge !

<< Comment #1366 @ 14:46 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #1315

No need to keep trying to be the dumbest person in this thread, you already won by a landslide.

Cunt.

<< Comment #1388 @ 04:09 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1366

he' s not only a fanboy, he's a fanboy of a cheater. srsly what did you expect?

<< Comment #1158 @ 14:27 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

as a wise man said it before me: MOAR FRANCO PLZ
let's maximize the rage damn it!

Edited by Aquashark at 14:28 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1176 @ 17:22 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1158

-.- really clever

<< Comment #1171 @ 16:48 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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ix

http://www.filedropper.com/sombraconspiracy

<< Comment #1187 @ 19:24 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1171

buahahaahahaahahahahhahahaahahaahahahhhaahhaahhahaahahahahah
fucking classic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #1174 @ 17:07 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Jazka

The most terrific thing is in my opinion, not that Sombra still not recover his famous deleted screenshots 2 days later when it's so easy, not that he don't say a word about recovering them, of course, but reading some spanish comments that most of them just can absolutely ignore this question.

This collective deny is just amazing.

<< Comment #1175 @ 17:18 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #1174

yeah, weird innit. they just want to defend their hero, no matter what proof there is.

<< Comment #1179 @ 17:28 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1175

"weird" ? Haven't you seen similar things in aAa before ? :P
I know I have !

Edited by sansai at 17:28 CDT, 27 October 2008

<< Comment #1181 @ 18:06 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #1179

talking about kazulama?

<< Comment #1183 @ 18:24 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #1181

Did he get busted? I haven't heard anything about this.

<< Comment #1184 @ 18:38 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1183

It wasn't about hacking. No Q3 player in aAa has ever hacked as far as I know - well, if you take away the lame OGC tests on public servers which some of them might have done 4 or 5 years ago when everyone was discovering it and trying it out to know how it worked, but then again they weren't hiding it, and I'm not even sure any of them was involved. Too many players did that for me to recall precisely who did and who didn't.
In any case I'm pretty sure no aAa player has ever hacked to take advantage of it.

<< Comment #1195 @ 03:24 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1184

I've never tried cheats for an online game, anyone else?

<< Comment #1209 @ 05:50 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1195

I'm with you, brother.
----------------------------------------------------------
98% of teenagers have tried aimbots, if you're one of the 2% that hasn't, put this in your signature.

<< Comment #1241 @ 08:57 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1209

90% of the facts are made up on the spot, the other 12%..

or isn't that how it goes =p?

But yea, I'd imagine it could be something like that, especially if they've tried counter-strike.

<< Comment #1266 @ 11:34 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1209

I used shownormals in ra3 everynow and then :( and hacked pak files to turn off rocket smoke :(

hacked .exe for q2 as well that allowed custom maps or something, had a wallhacked q2dm1 where certain parts of the map were glass walls, was awesome :D

tried botting in cs as well hm, fucking retards believed you when you said lag and packet loss was the reason you somehow managed to pull 3 180s and hitting 4 headshots in the progress while flashed

then I got caught looking through solid steps thinking they were grated :(

am such a cunt

<< Comment #1282 @ 14:31 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1266

When using fox (fojji?) 's Quake4 config, even in base, there is no rocket smoke. I want just that one command, but I have no idea how he did it without having to adjust a pak file.

Fox, if you're out there, and you happen by this post, please pretty pretty please tell me which of those commands does that! I've tried the ones that looked obvious, but the smokes still there.

<< Comment #1286 @ 15:40 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1282

The command is cg_noprojectiletrail 1:)

<< Comment #1361 @ 13:42 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1286

thanks for taking the time, but I think that's a q3 cvar, not q4. Or I'm not putting it in right, but since I've been editing .cfg files for id games for years, I doubt that's the case.

<< Comment #1358 @ 13:26 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #1282

no smoke is toggle-able in the gui. Its the explosions of the rl and gl that needed to be dumbed down in q4.

<< Comment #1360 @ 13:40 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1358

It's toggle-able in Q4max, not baseQ4. And the explosion doesn't bother me, it's the smoke trail.

<< Comment #1369 @ 17:03 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1358

Oh sorry, I read Q3 instead of Q4. I have no idea about Q4, I don't really like the game :S

<< Comment #1378 @ 23:40 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1369

ahahaha <3

<< Comment #1288 @ 16:19 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1266

I did actually cheat once accidentally. I used to have a really shit PC, 166mhz... all I could play was quake1 at about 12fps or sommet. So I wanted to play against bots like in Q3 so I downloaded an exe which I thought was a "bot", shockingly it didn't work so I just forgot about it, a couple of months later or sommet I decided to try playing online and started auto aiming at people thinking "wow this game is easy!"

<< Comment #1289 @ 16:19 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1266

oh btw you make me sick, cunt

<< Comment #1296 @ 20:15 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1209

"I've never tried cheats for an online game, anyone else? "

/me too

in fact I never used cheat for quake (the only online game that I played), but 15 years ago, I admit that I used some cheat code like "iddqd", "idspispopd", "idkfa" (switch "q" and "a" for the french cheat code :o) and so on on doom :x

<< Comment #1311 @ 07:02 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #1184

although linkin has cheated with aliasing and using rj scripts.

<< Comment #1351 @ 12:51 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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sansai - Reply to #1311

That's more the type of things I was referring to - although lk is far from beeing the only known case.
And seeing the support of players from other aAa sections each time was always funny, considering most of them didn't even have an actual clue of whatever happened.

So I had to laugh a bit when reading *aAa*Gladius' post. :)

<< Comment #1364 @ 14:25 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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vOOd - Reply to #1184

[troll]remember GA2005 finals, where aAa fakenicked between kazu/thefou :>[/troll]

<< Comment #1188 @ 22:22 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler

where tha posts @

<< Comment #1190 @ 01:43 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1188

all back now... was testing some new code and it appeared to not work :P

<< Comment #1196 @ 03:26 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1190

Funny how you used the wording "appeared" HUHU.

<< Comment #1189 @ 23:39 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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enzo

test

<< Comment #1197 @ 03:31 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

1200!

<< Comment #1219 @ 06:46 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #1197

next stop: 1337th comment!!

<< Comment #1281 @ 14:28 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1219

not long now

<< Comment #1203 @ 04:11 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (124-169-21-200.dyn.iinet.net.au)

Anyone remember when Spain cheated at the Paralympics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2umhVpCKe4

<< Comment #1210 @ 05:52 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1203

Haha, my immediate thought was "how the fuck did they fake having only 1 leg?"

<< Comment #1249 @ 09:35 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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rolf - Reply to #1203

But but, according to this thread all Spaniards have mental illnesses

<< Comment #1204 @ 04:44 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel

This is getting ridiculous. Ok, he cheated, so what? Are you all gonna burn him at the stake? Cmon... I'm sure all of you have made mistakes you haven't admitted when got caught. And about all the racist crap.. we could all take a look at every country's history and feel ashamed of it, don't make me give some of you a couple of history lessons. Really guys, get over it and stop looking like no-life nerds.

<< Comment #1205 @ 04:49 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #1204

It's the internet.
Welcome to it.

<< Comment #1381 @ 00:48 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #1205

thanks for comin to the party, glad you could make it
here's your complimentary Sprite and 7 year old girl

<< Comment #1208 @ 05:03 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1204

Mash does have a point, Internet is always great like this :(

But just imagine what would have happened if a Turk had done something like this. 3x the flame trust me :D

<< Comment #1243 @ 08:58 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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meh_ - Reply to #1208

armenian genocide. have you ever heard anything about it?

<< Comment #1245 @ 09:23 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1243

I rest my case!

<< Comment #1253 @ 09:52 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #1208

FREE KURDISTAN

<< Comment #1264 @ 11:28 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #1208

Turkish toilets... hang your heads in shame, that shit is nasty.

<< Comment #1274 @ 13:17 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1264

There is some improvements in that department. Working on it!

<< Comment #1211 @ 05:54 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1204

I can't believe I'm having to explain this: people are trying to piss you off, and you're responding by getting pissed off. It's like a fireman throwing petrol on a burning building and saying "Y IS NO STOP???"

<< Comment #1216 @ 06:21 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1211

I'm not really pissed off about this, I'm just pointing the fact this has become too ridiculous even for a bunch of nerdies as we all are :)

<< Comment #1237 @ 08:48 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1211

I'm part of a burning buidling. Awesome!

<< Comment #1218 @ 06:36 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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a1r-r41d - Reply to #1204

r-tard

<< Comment #1226 @ 07:56 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1204

Yezabel, don't take the racist stuff seriously. I really, really doubt anyone actually believes what they are saying about Spain. They are just trolling and looking to get a reaction out of their absurd comments. And if they seriously believe what they're saying about Spainish people, then they truly are idiots.

They are just attacking SombrA (he has become an easy target) and anything he is about.

<< Comment #1232 @ 08:19 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1226

I know, I know, but still you'll have to admit it's become too ridiculous

<< Comment #1238 @ 08:50 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1232

not yet.

number of Spanish defending him: several
Spanish having the balls to admit a mistake: one

<< Comment #1244 @ 09:22 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1238

There've been a couple anonymous spainards in here that agree SombrA has cheated. Uniiity I think does as well as a few other Spainards.

<< Comment #1252 @ 09:50 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1244

yes.
Maybe I didn't write it clear enough. I didn't mean those that said he cheated right away. I meant the Soanish that came here saying their friend wouldn't ever cheat.
And of those only Yezabel actually realized she was wrong and said so.

<< Comment #1259 @ 10:14 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1252

Ah, true. You just meant those who had realized SombrA cheated and acknowledged it after defending him.

Regardless, the only person here who needs to admit anything is SombrA. Yezabel was just doing what any good friend would do and that is defending their friend. I don't think she needs to apologize for that at all.

<< Comment #1265 @ 11:33 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1259

of course no one has to apologize, but that makes it more respectful to do it anyway.

<< Comment #1261 @ 11:11 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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zashael - Reply to #1244

My lmao was one of the 1st :(

<< Comment #1292 @ 17:43 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1238

I don't really have balls, sorry mate, your equation ain't right :(

<< Comment #1301 @ 03:17 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1292

I know, but I thought this figure of speech would make that statement stronger :(

<< Comment #1275 @ 13:40 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #1204

Here you go:

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/troll.htm

=)

<< Comment #1287 @ 15:44 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1275

Thanks for the definition, It reminds me of someone called Dem0n, I don't know why -.-

<< Comment #1207 @ 04:58 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8

To me it goes something like this:

[x] It is obvious by now that he cheated.
[x] 100% of the people defending him are Spanish
[x] Some people from Spain still wonder why other people call them idiots in this thread

<< Comment #1212 @ 05:59 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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fooKi - Reply to #1207

Wankmaterial

<< Comment #1213 @ 06:06 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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tokeh - Reply to #1207

[x] You are an idiot.

This test is complete now.

<< Comment #1214 @ 06:11 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #1213

Thank you for helping to prove my point (not that it was needed, but still.)

<< Comment #1215 @ 06:15 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #1213

hmm

[x] It is obvious by now that he cheated.
[x] 100% of the people defending him are Spanish
[x] Some people from Spain still wonder why other people call them idiots in this thread
[x] You are an idiot

are you sure?

<< Comment #1225 @ 07:38 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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ibuWan

SombrA is now known as fired_bot

<< Comment #1227 @ 07:58 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1225

more like, autofire_bot

<< Comment #1228 @ 08:00 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Anima

CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER
CHEATER

BUMP'D

<< Comment #1229 @ 08:07 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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svn

Sombra it's still not to late, all you have to do is PIMP HIRO and travel back in time

Edited by svn at 08:18 CDT, 28 October 2008

<< Comment #1331 @ 12:07 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1229

Hiro seems to do a ~~cheat~~ shit, each time he wants to travel back/forward the time...

<< Comment #1234 @ 08:31 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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zld

spanish cheating in the Paralympics reply was sick but extremly funny haaha nice one .. as for sombrero keep it clever in the future

<< Comment #1235 @ 08:42 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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toifel

sujoy himself faked the screens to get more registrations from spain!!1
case solved

<< Comment #1251 @ 09:43 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #1235

lol interesting theory...

<< Comment #1242 @ 08:57 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ zrC

I READ ALL THE COMMENTS! GIVE ME [+] FOR THAT!

<< Comment #1246 @ 09:24 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1242

You can't prove it... and if you really did, then, who is the best poster of them all?!?!??!??!

<< Comment #1250 @ 09:43 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ zrC - Reply to #1246

Just give me the motherfucking +'s OK?

<< Comment #1255 @ 09:52 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1250

Fine, but that plus is on credit. Next time you say something funny or insightful, you won't get a plus. Okay?

<< Comment #1269 @ 12:03 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1255

YOU DON'T DESEVE YOUR GOD STATUS.
GIFTS SHALL NOT BE GIVEN TO MERE MORTALS!!!

<< Comment #1270 @ 12:23 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1269

I'll plus who I want... when I want. Okay??????

<< Comment #1304 @ 04:44 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1270

lolograde, my friend, for all the funny discussions we had together, I deserve a [+] from you ! :o)

14%

<< Comment #1310 @ 06:47 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1304

sure, why not =)

<< Comment #1321 @ 09:57 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1310

yeahhh thx \o/

You know, nowadays (with the financial crisis and so on), a little thing (like a simple [+]) is enough to make people happy.

I just need another God [+] to become again an "ESR Megastar"...

I'm gonna ask Becks :o)

<< Comment #1323 @ 10:15 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1321

Ahaha, goodluck!

<< Comment #1326 @ 11:16 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1321

I can also [+] you for free (you can pay later on alcoholic drinks when you come to Spain)

Edited by Yezabel at 12:20 CDT, 29 October 2008

<< Comment #1329 @ 11:41 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1326

alcoholic drinks!? you meant to reply to Co1nco1n?

<< Comment #1333 @ 12:15 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1329

Yeah sorry xDD

<< Comment #1335 @ 12:17 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1329

[+] My 1337 post ?

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 12:18 CDT, 29 October 2008

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Nicky - Reply to #1335

you git i was waiting to post 1337!

<< Comment #1345 @ 12:32 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1336

You failed, like sombra... :o)

Thx to my 1337 keyboard (http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/1337.jpg) and my pure luck, I had the 1337th post :o)

But if you want I can change my post to have only the content you expected to write (in your dream) : 1337 !

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 12:57 CDT, 29 October 2008

<< Comment #1347 @ 12:35 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1345

nono i didnt FAIL im just not as fast as you :(( plus my aim is crap

<< Comment #1467 @ 14:42 CDT, 1 April 2009 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1336

WTF ? Did you erase a post to retrieve the 1337th posts instead of me ?? :o)

<< Comment #1344 @ 12:32 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #1335

Would you squeal for a plus?

<< Comment #1349 @ 12:41 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1344

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! \o/

Is it enough for you ??

<< Comment #1350 @ 12:50 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #1349

You failed at squealing :(

<< Comment #1353 @ 13:01 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1350

T'es m�chant xou :'(''' snif

bouhhhhhhhhhhhhahhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooiiiinnnnnnnnnnn snif :'(''''

<< Comment #1356 @ 13:26 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #1353

Fais l'cochon !!

<< Comment #1359 @ 13:31 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1356

Si encore tu me demandais de faire le canard, pourquoi pas, mais bon j'vais pas non plus te sucker les bollocks pendant que tu y es :D

<< Comment #1365 @ 14:33 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #1359

English :(

<< Comment #1254 @ 09:52 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1246

if you mean who was the funniest to read?

Anons and newly registered Spanish for sure. :)

and an extra prize for dashboard for being so quick.

<< Comment #1322 @ 10:06 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1254

Becks, could you please use your super heroes power ([+] me), to help a semi-god (me...) to become again an "ESR megastar" ?

If not, I regret to inform you, that... ~~lolograde will be my 1st best ESR friend instead of you. (And I will ask all the anonymous spanish guys to spam your mail box with Q3 cheat screenshots)~~... I will be sad

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 10:55 CDT, 29 October 2008

<< Comment #1327 @ 11:32 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1322

haha, how about you tell a joka and receive plus? :)

<< Comment #1330 @ 11:42 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1327

Or he should make a sacrifice to one of the ESR Gods...

<< Comment #1332 @ 12:12 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1330

Can I sacrifice Sombra (it will not be so difficult, he is already dead in q3 community) ?

<< Comment #1334 @ 12:17 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1330

did someone mention beer? O.O

<< Comment #1338 @ 12:22 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1334

I mentioned alcoholic drinks in general, don't mind if it's beer, gin or whisky, my stomach can stand them all xD

<< Comment #1339 @ 12:25 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1338

You sound like a cool girl! =)

<< Comment #1342 @ 12:30 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1339

Hahahah, you wouldn't say that if you had to pay my drinks

<< Comment #1362 @ 13:48 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #1342

He wouldn't mind as long as it leads somewhere :P

<< Comment #1343 @ 12:31 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1338

sorry, we are talking sacrifices to gods here and regarding my nickname it's clear wat drink it should be.
You may have leftovers though :)
But i'm afraid I haven't been to the non-German part of spain in a looooong time :(

<< Comment #1337 @ 12:22 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1327

And for my 1337th post (see uper), I think I deserved a [+] ! No ?

<< Comment #1340 @ 12:27 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Yezabel - Reply to #1337

Ok, one more [+], but no more from now on!! ... this seems like a soul selling for alcohol to me, I'm afraid my liver is gonna ask for independence :(

<< Comment #1341 @ 12:28 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1337

no.

Come one one good joke can't be that hard to post ;)

<< Comment #1374 @ 21:47 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1341

Comon.. he's french :/

<< Comment #1386 @ 03:45 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1374

true :/

maybe if he wrote something about the greatness of his country tho :P

<< Comment #1391 @ 05:10 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #1386

Pff, he won't surrender to popular demand.

Oh wait, he's frensh

<< Comment #1392 @ 05:15 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1391

:]

I remember when we taught some French exchange students the wordt German curse words:
Eichh�rnchen and Waschmaschine

<< Comment #1247 @ 09:25 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1242

No plus because reading all the comments = lots of fun

<< Comment #1271 @ 12:27 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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paulrrrr

1337 comment coming up!!!!!!!

that comment might be sombra finally admitting it :)

<< Comment #1355 @ 13:07 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1271

False.

<< Comment #1280 @ 14:15 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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urg

i would forgive him if he said he did it for the lulz

:F

<< Comment #1305 @ 05:02 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #1280

m�rschel`d

<< Comment #1279 @ 14:10 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Legie

http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quake3titlecopyeg3.jpg

who made this?:))

<< Comment #1285 @ 15:31 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (148.Red-83-45-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) - Reply to #1279

Amazing... hahaha

<< Comment #1299 @ 00:11 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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By

erok

ESR needs a search flag function. Some of the spanish posters in this thread are fucking amazing.

<< Comment #1306 @ 05:59 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #1299

Just search for "Anonymous".

OUCH!

<< Comment #1307 @ 06:19 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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link

is this some sort of a record btw?

<< Comment #1308 @ 06:22 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1307

cant remember tbh. im sure the cpl dying post got a lot

<< Comment #1314 @ 08:30 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #1308

I was just wondering about that. Would be nice to see a top5 most commented news items ever. The search function is not much of a help ;)

<< Comment #1328 @ 11:38 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1314

yep i thought so too. its been requested :) as far as i can see the most comments on a news post was Q4 patch and the most commented forum post was the QL post. apart from 99btls of beer but i think that was a journal

<< Comment #1346 @ 12:35 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #1328

Q4 had some nice dramas over patches : ]

<< Comment #1348 @ 12:35 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1346

didnt it just

<< Comment #1317 @ 09:01 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #1308

ql sandbox thread has a lot too

<< Comment #1318 @ 09:31 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1317

wasn't really drama tho

<< Comment #1320 @ 09:42 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #1318

nah but post-wise i mean :D

<< Comment #1325 @ 10:42 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #1308

bottles of beer on the wall prolly got most?

<< Comment #1309 @ 06:46 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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serak

Seems to me that people are not seeing the fine line in all of this. The cheater had to out him self to be recognised as one. It wouldnt suprise me the slightest if a lot of players in Europe used cheats.

<< Comment #1312 @ 08:17 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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qahdrk

Sombra was sure not first in line for a pair of brains

<< Comment #1313 @ 08:27 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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By

Anonymous (90.162.224.130)

I use picmip 3 ROFLMALOMALOMLAO.
You can do better xD

<< Comment #1363 @ 14:03 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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By

skint

still not as epic as the 'for norwegians only' thread

<< Comment #1367 @ 16:08 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1363

What it could be "for norwegians only" ??

A nuclear flashlight for the 6 months winter night ?
Some naked Santa Claus photos ?
...??
?

<< Comment #1382 @ 01:06 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #1367

no fucking idea, but that entire thread was in SPANISH!!!!
i never knew vikings spoke spanish

<< Comment #1376 @ 23:04 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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By

fanfreluche

Up up down down left right left right b a b a start

Thats the last time I cheated in a game.

<< Comment #1379 @ 23:49 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #1376

Mine was DNSTUFF :]

<< Comment #1380 @ 00:06 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #1376

Life Force?

<< Comment #1384 @ 02:22 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #1380

Facepalm! *scruff*

<< Comment #1390 @ 04:48 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #1376

http://www.uttertrash.net/upupdowndown.htm ??

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bcveen/55122774/

Konani ?

<< Comment #1385 @ 03:18 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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OvO

how bored AND BORING can this community possibly get? some spaniard kiddo goes ragehax and 1400 comments? come on

seriously though, nice troll sombra :)

Edited by OvO at 03:24 CDT, 30 October 2008

<< Comment #1393 @ 08:07 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #1385

drama, whats not to like?

<< Comment #1396 @ 08:51 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #1385

jealous much?

<< Comment #1395 @ 08:10 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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By

Anonymous (59.Red-88-14-160.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)

THE GAME IS OVER, MOTHERFUCKERS

<< Comment #1399 @ 12:23 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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dadS - Reply to #1395

wrong!

<< Comment #1401 @ 14:40 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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By

stelamfanboy

next stop 1500

<< Comment #1402 @ 15:01 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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By

riske_of_h8

thanks to the awesome lack of real life among the esr community, this thread might very well outlive time itself \o/

<< Comment #1403 @ 15:20 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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By

Derb_

anyone here gay?

<< Comment #1410 @ 02:25 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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By

terrorhead

LMAO@BUTTHURT FRANCO BOYS

<< Comment #1411 @ 03:59 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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By

.syL

I once new a girl named Regina

Edited by .syL at 04:05 CDT, 31 October 2008

<< Comment #1412 @ 06:04 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #1411

Regina Phelangy?

<< Comment #1414 @ 09:59 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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By

if-22

I already wondered why he became so good suddenly..=p
It's like a drug, once you use it (wallhack, radar, etc.) and like it (the positive attention due to your match-results) you will continue on using it.

I guess it started out as a joke and then he got addicted.

<< Comment #1416 @ 12:16 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (221.pool85-49-134.dynamic.orange.es) - Reply to #1414

Yeah it's hard to back off. But I'm you would have no problem doing that.

<< Comment #1417 @ 15:31 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #1414

i wanna a poll about it

<< Comment #1439 @ 11:22 CST, 3 November 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1414

insightful!

<< Comment #1415 @ 11:24 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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By

rupertt

ugh, has anyone got a demo of the hub game vs k1llmas?
I've been looking for hours... and the lack of results are freakin' me out :(

<< Comment #1419 @ 16:46 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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By

enzo

this thread is dying; needs more raged spaniards asap :(((

<< Comment #1421 @ 18:41 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1419

Ok, you got it, motherfucker

<< Comment #1428 @ 16:25 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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enzo - Reply to #1421

i piss on you retarded family tree

<< Comment #1432 @ 04:47 CST, 2 November 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1428

That's all?

<< Comment #1433 @ 12:09 CST, 2 November 2008 >>

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analyzer - Reply to #1432

well I hope its all, otherwise it will end in 2girls1cup ...

<< Comment #1422 @ 21:29 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

look ok, I understand that you are jealus of Sombra. He is great player from Spain and then he is good and you start to call him cheater. Why? Spain is great country! Our women are the best and our food too. You can make fun of Sombra. He did not cheat. I was there helping him while spectating and watching from spectating. So shut up and leave Spain alone! maricones mama huevos. me cago en la que los pario hijos de la puta mas grande

<< Comment #1424 @ 04:54 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #1422

Nice try. Even the mexican Spanish sentence you wrote at the end is funny

<< Comment #1423 @ 03:27 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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By

terrorhead

hi can't see comments

bye

<< Comment #1426 @ 07:47 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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By

Anonymous (cpc1-leic5-0-0-cust717.lei3.cable.ntl.com)

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/ot...66061.html

<< Comment #1429 @ 16:53 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1426

Sombra is a cheater, but uk is being a huge faggot there.

<< Comment #1427 @ 15:05 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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By

vkl

*cough*
so i was thinking....why is this community so fucked up....grow some balls motherfuckers

<< Comment #1430 @ 18:56 CDT, 1 November 2008 >>

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By

retire

�You are never really playing an opponent. You are playing yourself, your own highest standards, and when you reach your limits, that is real joy.�
- Arthur Ashe

<< Comment #1469 @ 21:38 CDT, 2 May 2009 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1430

bellend

<< Comment #1431 @ 00:27 CDT, 2 November 2008 >>

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By

koji

has some brah proved himself yet?

<< Comment #1450 @ 17:45 CST, 22 November 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #1431

guilty? yes. :)

<< Comment #1434 @ 15:25 CST, 2 November 2008 >>

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By

hydra

I suppose his daddy is sueing ESR now?

<< Comment #1436 @ 03:49 CST, 3 November 2008 >>

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By

Derb_

muaahahahhahahahaha

<< Comment #1438 @ 11:19 CST, 3 November 2008 >>

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By

pl4gue

we need something that will give us a hundred or more posts in this thread...

<< Comment #1440 @ 08:18 CST, 4 November 2008 >>

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By

Anonymous (213.0.30.251)

At the end, the last conclusions is that all of you are retards :)

GG

<< Comment #1442 @ 08:53 CST, 7 November 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #1440

hi sombra

<< Comment #1441 @ 09:00 CST, 4 November 2008 >>

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By

ametys

omg antoher cheater!

<< Comment #1443 @ 09:28 CST, 9 November 2008 >>

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By

lolograde '

Is it too soon to start bumping this thread?

<< Comment #1444 @ 14:49 CST, 9 November 2008 >>

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Legie - Reply to #1443

hehehe :))

<< Comment #1445 @ 01:54 CST, 10 November 2008 >>

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By

Arcita

my favorite thread. I nearly forgot about you. Woe is you. I feel your pain. You need love to get bigger

<< Comment #1446 @ 13:36 CST, 14 November 2008 >>

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Anonymous (14.pool85-53-193.dynamic.orange.es)

We miss you Sombra. RIP

<< Comment #1447 @ 11:52 CST, 15 November 2008 >>

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Anonymous (pool-98-113-183-162.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)

guess thats the end of that lol.

wut a retard

<< Comment #1448 @ 15:02 CST, 17 November 2008 >>

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qahdrk - Reply to #1447

You are post 1450 !!! YOU GO ON FOR THE DISHWASHER !!

<< Comment #1449 @ 17:44 CST, 22 November 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #1448

Can I have a dishwasher? <3

<< Comment #1451 @ 04:22 CST, 24 November 2008 >>

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qahdrk - Reply to #1449

:D

<< Comment #1453 @ 09:03 CST, 28 November 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #1447

THERE'S NO END TO THIS THREAD THOUGH

<< Comment #1454 @ 12:42 CST, 30 December 2008 >>

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By

Anonymous (ip-78-94-79-240.unitymediagroup.de)

bomp

<< Comment #1455 @ 12:45 CST, 30 December 2008 >>

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By

xou

It seems like SombrA is focusing on poker now

<< Comment #1456 @ 19:49 CST, 1 January 2009 >>

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By

lolograde '

Has anyone been sued yet?

<< Comment #1457 @ 09:37 CST, 5 January 2009 >>

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By

valvalis

I ve read it all again. Took me 6 hours =]
* @ work \o/ *

<< Comment #1458 @ 10:52 CST, 5 January 2009 >>

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TUMULT - Reply to #1457

",

<< Comment #1459 @ 04:44 CST, 8 January 2009 >>

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Anonymous (80-42-141-83.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)

CHEATY CHEATER IS ONLY CHEATING HIMSELF

lmao@spain

<< Comment #1460 @ 23:33 CST, 18 January 2009 >>

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Anonymous (fibhost-175-220.fibernet.bacs-net.hu)

LEGENDARY THREAD!

<< Comment #1461 @ 12:22 CST, 29 January 2009 >>

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By

xou

Soon 50k hits and 1500 comments!

<< Comment #1462 @ 16:24 CST, 1 February 2009 >>

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By

f0cus

bump

<< Comment #1463 @ 18:43 CST, 28 February 2009 >>

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By

nekon

so did he cheat or is this all just a hoax????

<< Comment #1464 @ 12:32 CDT, 9 March 2009 >>

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By

mic

what?

<< Comment #1465 @ 12:39 CDT, 9 March 2009 >>

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By

rockz '

did he said "im sorry" or smth similar?

<< Comment #1466 @ 06:42 CDT, 24 March 2009 >>

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By

_Rapid_

sombra completely disappear since this notice of OCT2008!

I don't know if sombra cheats or not, i just know sombra is a very arrogant person, and he always said "I like salsa" when he makes stupid comments in other forums in spain, i think he really gets deeply into the salsa now!

Edited by _Rapid_ at 07:14 CDT, 24 March 2009

<< Comment #1468 @ 10:44 CDT, 2 April 2009 >>

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Po0dle - Reply to #1466

Not completely disappeared :)

<< Comment #1470 @ 09:36 CDT, 28 June 2009 >>

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By

zkyp

hallo!!

<< Comment #1472 @ 18:00 CDT, 5 October 2009 >>

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By

trippy

BLUMPPPPPPPPPPP was there any other proof then these random screenshots :o)

<< Comment #1475 @ 17:31 CST, 30 November 2009 >>

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By

tourist - Reply to #1472

none

<< Comment #1479 @ 07:03 CST, 5 December 2009 >>

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linkoo - Reply to #1472

No proof besides sombra actually sending a screenshot with a radar.

<< Comment #1473 @ 13:41 CST, 30 November 2009 >>

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By

linkoo

BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP

<< Comment #1478 @ 03:32 CST, 1 December 2009 >>

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By

dansen

sombra = yuka

<< Comment #1481 @ 08:04 CDT, 23 June 2010 >>

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By

runner_100m

sup

<< Comment #1482 @ 08:19 CDT, 23 June 2010 >>

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By

kaliberr44 - Reply to #1481

bad bump is bad

<< Comment #1483 @ 08:19 CDT, 23 June 2010 >>

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By

runner_100m - Reply to #1482

:(

<< Comment #1484 @ 18:01 CDT, 12 July 2010 >>

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By

lolograde '

Edited by lolograde at 18:05 CDT, 12 July 2010

<< Comment #1485 @ 18:08 CDT, 12 July 2010 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1484

Takes 50 years to load this thread. I'm just adding to it.

<< Comment #1487 @ 02:13 CDT, 14 July 2010 >>

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Raist - Reply to #1484

iniesta is sad now because of sombra :((

<< Comment #1488 @ 12:55 CDT, 14 July 2010 >>

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By

becks - Reply to #1487

spain is broke now because of sombra :((

<< Comment #1489 @ 02:24 CDT, 21 July 2010 >>

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By

Legie

Hehe this thread is still alive

<< Comment #1491 @ 04:03 CDT, 21 July 2010 >>

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Anonymous (92.153.48.117) - Reply to #1489

It's time to confess you photoshopped those screens

<< Comment #1492 @ 04:41 CDT, 21 July 2010 >>

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Legie - Reply to #1491

hehe yeah

<< Comment #1494 @ 17:47 CST, 5 January 2011 >>

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By

Ryan2015

BUMP

We need a new cheater !!!

I miss such EPICNESS

<< Comment #1502 @ 15:55 CST, 31 January 2011 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1494

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2027717

<< Comment #1503 @ 17:24 CST, 31 January 2011 >>

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Ryan2015 - Reply to #1502

Not really epic tho this with the lawsuits and the screenshots

man good times

<< Comment #1504 @ 19:15 CST, 31 January 2011 >>

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tourist - Reply to #1503

and spaniards defending him because he's a good player and they know him.

<< Comment #1495 @ 18:55 CST, 5 January 2011 >>

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By

reload

Think of some polish LAN dodger.

<< Comment #1496 @ 19:02 CST, 5 January 2011 >>

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waVVes - Reply to #1495

I read through the entire thread and end up with this. One way or another you end up ruining everything. fuck's sake.

<< Comment #1497 @ 22:06 CST, 5 January 2011 >>

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reload - Reply to #1496

You always make me laugh. :D

<< Comment #1498 @ 05:35 CST, 31 January 2011 >>

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By

Raist

bump #1

<< Comment #1499 @ 05:36 CST, 31 January 2011 >>

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By

Raist

bump #2

AND 1500 DING DING DING DING DING DING!!!

<< Comment #1500 @ 06:06 CST, 31 January 2011 >>

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By

nvc - Reply to #1499

such a cheater, posting twice for 1500

pft

<< Comment #1501 @ 09:01 CST, 31 January 2011 >>

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By

Raist - Reply to #1500

:D:D:D:D:D

<< Comment #1505 @ 07:50 CDT, 24 June 2011 >>

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By

cha0z_

RISE MY CHILD, RISE!

<< Comment #1506 @ 08:52 CDT, 25 August 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #1505

RISE!

<< Comment #1507 @ 18:13 CST, 18 January 2012 >>

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By

Ryan2015

It's about time for a BUMP

<< Comment #1508 @ 19:57 CST, 18 January 2012 >>

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By

lithz

;o

<< Comment #1509 @ 11:59 CST, 21 January 2012 >>

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By

ins '

aaaand he's back !

<< Comment #1510 @ 12:41 CST, 21 January 2012 >>

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By

ShadyVoltaire - Reply to #1509

Hi sombra))) WHY YOU LANDODGINK? (((

<< Comment #1511 @ 04:10 CST, 24 January 2012 >>

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By

ischju

insane amount of comments :D

<< Comment #1512 @ 04:27 CST, 24 January 2012 >>

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By

Raist

funnyb you are supposed to bump this till you die, less talk more work!

<< Comment #1513 @ 15:45 CST, 24 January 2012 >>

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By

SenT!neL

almost forgot how hilarious this thread was

<< Comment #1514 @ 08:36 CST, 31 January 2012 >>

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By

Po0dle

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/s0mbr4

Just saiyan

<< Comment #1519 @ 06:16 CST, 24 February 2012 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #1514

He cant possible be that bad efter a short break like that -_-
must be fake.

<< Comment #1523 @ 13:14 CST, 27 February 2012 >>

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dansen - Reply to #1519

he's legit nowadays

<< Comment #1520 @ 07:45 CST, 24 February 2012 >>

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By

DamianLillard

So is this the biggest thread in number of responses or is there fatter ones yall

Edited by ESR is dead at 07:46 CST, 24 February 2012

<< Comment #1522 @ 09:48 CST, 27 February 2012 >>

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Hadeskaya - Reply to #1520

There's at least one thread.

<< Comment #1528 @ 11:00 CST, 5 March 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #1522

should go on tbh!
FREE THE BEER THREAD!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #1525 @ 21:10 CST, 1 March 2012 >>

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By

melechesh '

oh man I've been re-reading the whole thing, shit will never get old :D

<< Comment #1529 @ 12:00 CST, 5 March 2012 >>

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kenZu - Reply to #1525

d'oh you have time to lose :P

<< Comment #1531 @ 12:27 CDT, 23 April 2012 >>

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By

Anonymous (213.4.115.151)

bump!

<< Comment #1532 @ 14:23 CDT, 28 April 2012 >>

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By

lolograde '

Good memories....

<< Comment #1533 @ 07:55 CDT, 2 June 2012 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #1532

ahah yea absolutely. I remember coming in here and seeing all the comments.

wonder where the old boy is now though? pretty sure p0ni = sombra

<< Comment #1534 @ 10:52 CDT, 2 June 2012 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #1533

p0ni = phoenix (q3ers apparently know that name)

<< Comment #1535 @ 18:21 CDT, 4 June 2012 >>

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By

rizzah

I hear sombra has sl1pped back into the scene unnoticed

<< Comment #1536 @ 15:55 CDT, 15 June 2012 >>

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By

no_il

Man whatever happened to all the ESR drama we used to get? 1500 responses in 2008 and less than a 100 in 2012.

It seems that the cheating epidemic in QL is not only ruining games, but ESR drama aswell...

<< Comment #1537 @ 05:50 CDT, 14 July 2012 >>

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By

Nzr0 '

bump bump bump

needs HOF

<< Comment #1538 @ 05:34 CST, 3 December 2012 >>

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By

Raist

HEY GAIS WATS GOING ON

<< Comment #1539 @ 10:46 CST, 4 December 2012 >>

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By

mar- - Reply to #1538

I miss this thread.

<< Comment #1540 @ 17:31 CST, 6 December 2012 >>

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By

zkyp

I heard funnyb was going to bump this 'till the end of his life, liar :(

<< Comment #1566 @ 05:42 CDT, 27 July 2014 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #1540

Sorry :(

<< Comment #1589 @ 16:54 CDT, 23 August 2016 >>

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By

funnyb - Reply to #1540

Not sorry.

<< Comment #1627 @ 18:43 CDT, 24 July 2018 >>

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zkyp - Reply to #1589

?????

<< Comment #1542 @ 19:45 CST, 6 December 2012 >>

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SIHdW3W

what's he doing these days? i wonder

<< Comment #1608 @ 17:47 CDT, 20 August 2017 >>

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Lw)f - Reply to #1542

Epic Actuality BUMP:

Guess where he is :>, closer from you than you think :D (retro-actively)

<< Comment #1543 @ 18:24 CST, 2 January 2013 >>

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Nzr0 '

Hall of Fame goddamnit

<< Comment #1544 @ 13:28 CST, 3 January 2013 >>

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atomigo - Reply to #1543

time to review that yet another time

<< Comment #1554 @ 06:06 CST, 6 January 2013 >>

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dashimself - Reply to #1543

Haha! This thread... I remember when I was pointing those obvious screens out (not even right after they were uploaded). I wonder if anyone would ever recognise those, or ppl just didn't see the wood for the trees.

<< Comment #1545 @ 05:52 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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CENEk

I can't believe I just read through the whole thing. Where'd all the Spanish fellas go after this?

<< Comment #1546 @ 06:24 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1545

They all retreated butthurtedly to mediavida.com where they set up a language barricade, and continue to this day to convince eachother that Sombra is in fact innocent and was set up through some hilariously unconvincing conspiracy theory, and also that everyone who was born outside of Spain is a natural born spaniard-hater, and that ESR is a blasphemous place full of lies and deceit that are jelly of Spain and dedicated to doing everything they can to put Spain down.

However, they still haven't figured out that they are ridiculed for blindly defending Sombra in the first place, rather than their fairytale of Sombra being just another innocent victim of an already existing ridicule.

All this even after Sombra decided it was a good idea to claim Guard's screenshots as his own 4 years later.

kinda pathetic

<< Comment #1547 @ 06:32 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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CENEk - Reply to #1546

Haha, that is amazing! I don't understand one word of it all, except I think I can tell what melechesh is pointing out. It's hilarious that they're still talking about it. Good thing they can all pat each other on the back and agree that this place is horrible!

<< Comment #1551 @ 12:09 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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By $\0/$ -xinnn- - Reply to #1547

iirc quake is potat=melechesh :)

<< Comment #1548 @ 06:33 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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CENEk - Reply to #1546

I also wonder if SombrA started acting more kindly to his "fans" after this whole thing.

<< Comment #1549 @ 10:44 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #1545

I can't believe it's only the first time you've reread this ;] .

<< Comment #1550 @ 11:36 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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CENEk - Reply to #1549

You're right, I'm actually sorry :(

<< Comment #1552 @ 14:35 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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xero- '

well, they unbanned zeroql, might as well unban sombra

<< Comment #1553 @ 15:08 CST, 4 January 2013 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #1552

needs to release a 6.1/10 movie first.

<< Comment #1555 @ 04:26 CST, 6 February 2013 >>

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Whipas

bumping just because no one else did.

<< Comment #1557 @ 08:21 CST, 14 February 2013 >>

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BloodRave

LOL

<< Comment #1558 @ 11:55 CDT, 14 April 2013 >>

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lolograde '

Never forget.

<< Comment #1559 @ 17:09 CDT, 14 April 2013 >>

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Lw)f

Amazing!

<< Comment #1560 @ 06:59 CDT, 2 June 2013 >>

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Vium

olo

<< Comment #1561 @ 12:06 CDT, 2 June 2013 >>

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zkyp

heahaeheahaehah MY FATHER IS COMING FOR YOU

<< Comment #1562 @ 17:02 CDT, 6 August 2013 >>

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qwih

lol when dem0n randomly starts defending belgium football team it's hilarious

<< Comment #1563 @ 17:08 CDT, 6 August 2013 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #1562

nice timing, execution isn't bad, content is okay, all in all a decent bump

Edited by quake is potat at 17:08 CDT, 6 August 2013

<< Comment #1568 @ 23:51 CDT, 27 July 2014 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #1563

http://esreality.com/post/1627195/sombra-bann...pid1920528

<< Comment #1564 @ 02:36 CDT, 27 July 2014 >>

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Anonymous (213.37.72.70)

up!

<< Comment #1565 @ 03:27 CDT, 27 July 2014 >>

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CMSS

GIVE
US
SCREEN
SHOTS

<< Comment #1567 @ 06:26 CDT, 27 July 2014 >>

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sonic

Last point, Legie if you dont remove this new i will take legal actions against you because this is totally a big lie and i am not kidding.

Regards.

<< Comment #1569 @ 06:19 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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CENEk

I think it's high time SombrA came back to ESR.

<< Comment #1570 @ 15:25 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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Legie

still alive

<< Comment #1571 @ 16:02 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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goodbye_world - Reply to #1570

That you, Logen?

<< Comment #1572 @ 16:19 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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Legie - Reply to #1571

what?

<< Comment #1573 @ 16:27 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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goodbye_world - Reply to #1572

Reference, probably a lonely one at that. You have to be realistic about these things.

<< Comment #1574 @ 16:28 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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Badb0y

screenshots pls. cant find them anymore.

<< Comment #1575 @ 16:49 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #1574

The two against fire_bot are above: http://www.esreality.com/post/1627195/sombra-...pid1915176

<< Comment #1576 @ 22:26 CDT, 28 July 2014 >>

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_agu

http://esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=4781

<< Comment #1577 @ 14:45 CDT, 15 August 2014 >>

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Derb_

Hahah GOAT thread!

Sombra is a legend!

<< Comment #1578 @ 18:43 CDT, 9 August 2015 >>

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Linchpin

1590th!

<< Comment #1579 @ 18:51 CST, 25 January 2016 >>

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lolograde '

[img1]

Edited by hanslolo at 17:05 CST, 26 January 2016

<< Comment #1630 @ 08:36 CDT, 25 July 2018 >>

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sonic - Reply to #1579

yes

<< Comment #1580 @ 06:41 CST, 26 January 2016 >>

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zkyp

Hey, how is the lawsuit going?

<< Comment #1587 @ 16:20 CDT, 23 August 2016 >>

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tony

Did he cheat at end?

<< Comment #1588 @ 16:48 CDT, 23 August 2016 >>

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sonic - Reply to #1587

Edited by sonic at 16:50 CDT, 23 August 2016

<< Comment #1590 @ 16:57 CDT, 23 August 2016 >>

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xou - Reply to #1587

He sure never played a quake tourney again

<< Comment #1591 @ 14:26 CDT, 4 November 2016 >>

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zkyp

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/heroes/sombra/

HE'S BACK

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<< Comment #1593 @ 01:12 CDT, 5 November 2016 >>

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bogOtac - Reply to #1591

Edited by bogOtac at 01:13 CDT, 5 November 2016

20%

<< Comment #1592 @ 16:13 CDT, 4 November 2016 >>

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T1E '

If you're new to ESR and read this thread in one sitting you gain enough exp to level up for 3 levels.

<< Comment #1598 @ 06:56 CDT, 19 May 2017 >>

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d1z :

bump

<< Comment #1604 @ 06:14 CDT, 20 May 2017 >>

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nvc - Reply to #1598

Tuned in, was using Visor in duel.

:'D

<< Comment #1605 @ 10:26 CDT, 22 June 2017 >>

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rehepapp

10/10

<< Comment #1606 @ 15:08 CDT, 29 June 2017 >>

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mdv

for life?

<< Comment #1607 @ 18:32 CDT, 29 June 2017 >>

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SaturdayEveningPost

wait hows he playing in qchamps is banned for hacking!!!! Visorrr!

<< Comment #1609 @ 05:20 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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sTPHN

Necro'd

<< Comment #1610 @ 06:31 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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Ryan2015

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1612 @ 06:31 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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Ryan2015

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1611 @ 06:31 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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Ryan2015

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1613 @ 09:29 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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sonic

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1614 @ 10:51 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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d1z :

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1615 @ 11:04 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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Vig1lante

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1616 @ 11:10 CDT, 21 August 2017 >>

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ProT :

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1617 @ 16:21 CDT, 22 August 2017 >>

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Hawklaw

i forgot what i was meant to copy and paste

<< Comment #1618 @ 17:15 CDT, 22 August 2017 >>

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sTPHN

i forgot what i was meant to copy and paste

<< Comment #1619 @ 03:33 CDT, 23 August 2017 >>

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By $\0/$ hc

stop spamming you fags

<< Comment #1620 @ 08:44 CDT, 24 August 2017 >>

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ProT :

Stop spamming you fags.

<< Comment #1621 @ 08:50 CDT, 24 August 2017 >>

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esdf '

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1622 @ 09:28 CDT, 24 August 2017 >>

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sonic

I remember you fags hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1623 @ 07:11 CDT, 1 October 2017 >>

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harosh - Reply to #1622

I remember when you wrote this and it was a hilarious time :)

<< Comment #1624 @ 07:53 CDT, 1 October 2017 >>

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sonic - Reply to #1623

I remember when this happened were hilarious times :)

<< Comment #1625 @ 09:35 CDT, 2 October 2017 >>

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mcdaddysandwich

c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker, motherfucker!

<< Comment #1628 @ 21:07 CDT, 24 July 2018 >>

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LOLatRoflexTimers '

He is active in QC again:

https://www.twitch.tv/dmsombra

I wonder what happened to Akiles, the guy that placed 2nd against unkind in WCG 2002? unkind also has disappeared from gaming.

<< Comment #1629 @ 02:17 CDT, 25 July 2018 >>

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Quetz_ru

Why does http://quakequickcup.com/ become wedding forum?

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<< Comment #1631 @ 00:45 CDT, 26 July 2018 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #1629

That's nothing, 10 years ago there was a clan/webpage called /spawnraped. One time I opened it up after the domain had expired and well, there was a lot more literal representation of that phrase than I was ready for.