Moving mouse in frustration at missing the shot, and it's not centered on evil at all. Keel is always to the right.

agree but its the worst situation to do such a thing. After getting the frag or after getting killed is logical to do such a thing. In a fight in a cup...
i guess he didnt take the cup seriously so he did stupid things.

He normally doesn't take it serious, indeed. I saw him a lot of times doing such things.

wait what cheater ??? in quake live no one cheats !!

that was just a lucky shot...you are just mad because you are not that good...do you even know how long he plays quake blablablabla


base...hopefully ur qlstats acc status get switched to deactivated...

Oh look it's a [+] farmer. Thinking if he makes a Base hacking thread people will give him [+]

Useless thread is useless

wow nice ruse i almost plussed your post

there we go moronism talk incoming

If anything this thread is pointless. Pretty much everyone jumped on the hate Base bag waggon since the last thread. Now this guy claims to have found more evidences of Base hacking?

All I see here is hate and [+] farming.

do not missunderstand me but thats just ur way of looking at things ;)

Don't defend a player who was just recently VAC-banned.

Not cheater

I can defend whoever I want.

If anything get actual solid proof that he was hacking, then I'll change my mind. If you have a brain cell of any kind, you would least know that VAC-banned means nothing. But this being ESR, well... Don't expect much

Where is solid proof that daddy cheats? Or serious? Or anyone? Even Sombra denied those screenshots were his and people say there's not enough proof he cheated.... Unless base admits he cheated (like zeroql admitted he did), nothing will satisfy you because there's always going to be some lack of "proof".

Stop being so naive. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

I don't believe everything I read on internetz.. And for you to believe that Base is hacking on no actual proof. Who is naive now?

Lol, "no proof". Vac ban, account name changed a hundred times to hide his account name, people suspected him previously... I get that's "no proof" to you but it's enough for me. It's not easy to hack a steam account. I think steam requires two step verification when logging in from a new IP so they would also have to have hacked his email or had his phone.

Why would someone hack his account, install and use cheats (not knowing whether base would get vac banned), and then spend an hour changing his account name a hundred times? If the hacker wanted to embarrass base by framing him as a hacker, why bother changing the user name? Why go to all that trouble and then try to hide base's name?

Apparently people hacked the Pentagon, if a they can do that they can do the same with Steam I guess? But who knows I'm no hacker..

World is a strange and weird place. Some people will do things that is beyond our understanding. If some hacker decided to single out Base for reasons unknown to human science then so be it. And many people change names, now it is a bit weird for top player to change names a lot. But to use that as one of the reasons, sadly that is not much to go on.

I'm just not convinced enough at this point to believe he hacks. We can debate this all day :/

Here's a more likely story than "world is strange and mysterious place": base used some cheat, got VAC banned, tried to hide the fact it's his account that got VAC banned by changing his name a hundred times, then stopped playing for two weeks (probably ashamed he got busted). After two weeks of thinking of a good excuse, he comes back, claims he was on vacation, says account was hacked.

There's so many coincidences in base's story that make it very suspicious that base is not telling the truth. How did his account get hacked? Why did the hacker use cheats and get VAC banned? Why did the hacker change base's name a hundred times after VAC ban? How did the hacker know to hack the account while base was away on vacation? Why didn't base attempt to appeal VAC ban?

There is no reason for him to justify his actions or inactions for us. If he choose to be the silent type and let the public speculate as to what happened or didn't happen. So be it.

Who are we to force him to tell us the truth? if you really want answers from him that badly, take him to court?

That's true. But I'm entitled to my opinion that he probably cheated and may be continuing to cheat.

Wtf, not cheater!!!😊

why would anyone ddos 125fps cup every week for months?

https://np.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/5skfg4...it/#notice

it's certainly* a duck

whomever

I remember watching this live. Thought crossed my mind for a billionth of a second.

Then it occurred to me, that's probably the best way to give your self the least chance of not missing your shots vs a fresh no gun evil whos gonna dodge his ass off, and mg scan you to death.

He just rotated the cursor around evil. not letting him know where he would settle it, worked perfectly. Similar things could be used more often. Similar to jaggering your left and right keys back and forth in attempt to dodge while keeping crosshair on opponent for scan weapons.

Doesn't look like anything to me...

Same.

Haven't seen Westworld yet, huh?

probs hit tha blunt before the cup

Since he's been banned before we'll never know for sure.

I wonder why they still let him play.
He is/was banned. End of story. He got a VAC ban, is proof enough.

VAC ban is not proof, if someone else uses your account or you give it away and someone cheats on it, that does not make you a cheat.
Or I hear it can happen if you're playing pirated software on cracked servers etc.

A system which hangs people for gaming equiv of "murder" without trial is not credible, unless you have other probably evidence to go with it.

The odd behavior surrounding it? Account name changed a hundred times, base went incommunicado for a couple weeks, and only then claimed to be hacked later. It's pretty fishy.

Plus, iirc, some people suspected he used cheats before as he became top tier very quickly (compared to agent and evil who have played 15+ years).

Yeah, that's not your account getting hacked. That's realizing your VAC came in and trying to do damage control before anyone can see it.

He tried to obfuscate his account and prevent people from seeing his VAC ban, and then he basically hid from the controversy for weeks when that ploy didn't pan out and people noticed he had a VAC ban.

And then he came back with an 'Oh, gee, looks like my account got hacked or something...' even though he was playing under another account during this period.

The only purpose of someone hacking his account, appears to be to CONCEAL the VAC ban.

It's beyond unbelievable at every step.

That VAC, like 90 percent of VACs, was triggered months prior. No AC is perfect, but VAC really allows cheaters to get comfortable and hang themselves.

Doesn't change anything.
If it possible to get VAC banned without cheating?

YES?

Is it possible to argue your case?

NO.

Therefore, its flawed, end of story.

Therefore no one should ever go to jail either, as you only have evidence not proof in court. I did not know you were an anarchist, Jamerio.

The point is, valve does not have the equiv of a court to appeal.
So your example is flawed. Its straight to jail.

Now this is hilarious. Jamerio, who personally judges billions of people by their skin color, explains to me the necessity of a fair individual trial before locking a person out.

I was wrong about Fizzle, you are still the biggest joke on this site.

How did that Germany/Refugee/Migrant thing work out mate?
Any spike in rapes and terror attacks?

Whose the bigger cunt, the guy who called it right and would have saved your countrymen and women's asses and lives if listened to, or the treasonous lefty scum bag like you who was happy for his own people to get raped and killed?

I sleep well at night.
You're the one whose got his people's blood on his hands.

even with mountains of evidence.... they'll never believe you. Even at the moment of their own death by the hands of their welcome guests.... they still believe it's their own fault.

tl;dr; something something wall something something mexico something something muslims
*puts trump hat on and takes a beer out of the cooler*

Are you now seriously trying to cover up hard numbers with an emotional breitbart rambling?

Your "strong" evidence (mountains of evidence!) leads to a 99,9999999% false positive rate. That evidence is subjective and based on emotions.

VAC evidence leads to a < 1% false positive rate. That evidence is based on objective algorithms, executed by an emotionless machine. I presume the false positive rate being that low because otherwise, due to the sheer number of steam users, there would be constant ban waves. Even if we are talking about rather exotic but legal software.

By the way: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/f...b-gdnmedia

Define irony, someone using Wikipedia and The Guardian to dismiss the daily mail as fake news. One a user editable source famous of being edited by the people/organisation it talks about. The other, a left wing rag favored by traitors, and Marxist trash currently going nuts over Brexit and Trump, raging about policies and words Obama did and worse.

"Germany toughens rape laws after New Year's Eve attacks in Cologne"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/07...ne-attacks

For all of Germany, police report that ~1,200 women were sexually assaulted and estimate that at least 2,000 men were involved, acting in groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year's...in_Germany

now then...

"VAC evidence leads to a < 1% false positive rate."

Then you've just admitted I am right, because while <1% might not sound like a lot, on a system which has over 125 million user accounts that means over 100,000 people are potentially getting screwed over, which I find strange you're ok with as you're always talking about how racist I am, yet here you are, advocating a system which takes care of the 'minorities' it discriminates against.

yet when someone advocated such a method from stopping the citizens of his country getting blown to shit, its deemed as racist.

Scooby Doo is less confused than you....

Define irony, someone using Wikipedia and The Guardian to dismiss the daily mail as fake news. One a user editable source famous of being edited by the people/organisation it talks about. The other, a left wing rag favored by traitors, and Marxist trash currently going nuts over Brexit and Trump, raging about policies and words Obama did and worse.

The Guardian was just a random source reporting this fact. Could have picked any other. But I understand that a Daily Mail reader may confuse real facts with "alternative facts".

"Germany toughens rape laws after New Year's Eve attacks in Cologne"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/07...ne-attacks

For all of Germany, police report that ~1,200 women were sexually assaulted and estimate that at least 2,000 men were involved, acting in groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year's...in_Germany

How is this related to the false positive rate at all? Do you even know what that is? What was your self-reported IQ score again, 138?

Then you've just admitted I am right, because while <1% might not sound like a lot, on a system which has over 125 million user accounts that means over 100,000 people are potentially getting screwed over, which I find strange you're ok with as you're always talking about how racist I am, yet here you are, advocating a system which takes care of the 'minorities' it discriminates against.

You are absolutely right, if 100.000 people would get banned we certainly would hear of it. Therefore it is highly probable that the false positive rate is far below 1%. Now go figure out if that makes my point stronger or weaker.

So what this boils down to is, someone on the internet said someone's organisation is fake news?

One, the complete opposite of the daily mail.

The other, an organisation which allows people to write their own news and facts, which often go unchallenged and rank well with SEO.
Whose owner is not a Trump fan and pushed by a lefty like yourself whose happy for his own people to get killed and raped to help some 3rd world muslim's who could have gone to 100 places closer and more appropriate to home than Germany?

"You are absolutely right, if 100.000 people would get banned we certainly would hear of it."

You are hearing of it because we're discussing it here.
Other incidents on google too.
https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrom...t+cheating

Secondly because people know steam do not make any amendments to being VAC banned, they've probably given up.
especially as it can be remedied by getting a new account.
The official line from steam is.

"VAC bans are permanent, non-negotiable, and cannot be removed by Steam Support."

Does that sound like someone worth negotiating with, especially as bringing it up draws attention to your apparent cheating and the gaming community is full of tards who always think the worse.

I realize you've probably got something else to say, but you've spent hundreds of words trying to form a conclusion to inspire and others into believing two things already and it didn't go well and won't get any better for you, so I'm done.

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrom...t+cheating

This LITERALLY proves that base is innocent.

I'm done

You definitely are.

"https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrom...t+cheating
This LITERALLY proves that base is innocent.
I'm done
You definitely are."

I am done, I just wanted to know if you mean to post that URL, or did you fuck that up too?

You must be really desperate if you try to undermine my statements by criticizing the way I quote a link that you posted...

You posted a link to a blank google page of which you implied was the undoing of me.

Even when I told you the URL appears to be broken, you then got upset accusing me of being desperate.

Is it too much to ask for you to post a URL to the bit of information you claim is relative to your discussion?

That is a basic law of the internet you know.....

hang on.

I'll just link you to yahoo.com and my fails will turn to wins.

www.yahoo.com

valve pls unban

Just like any legal justice system that is in existence today. However, if you have enough money you can buy your way into freedom/innocence ie: The Oscar Pistorius : Blade Runner case.

Just one of many examples which are out there and you can say this applies to Base in this instance considering he's been to many LAN's and also that the 125FPS is run by Russian administration, it's easier for them to just accept the facts as it is etc.

Too many in game politics to account for, however Base went from being beaten by pretty much everyone, to roflstomping everyone in a space of say 3 months, which is interesting unless he has practices like a motherfucking beast.

I dunno man, too many holes in the elusive online cheating industry.

And? He said he was hacked, okay.
But what proofs that? How can he proof that? Everyone who has a vac ban can say he was hacked.

I wouldn't let someone play who can't proof that he wasn't clearly cheating.

That's just one example, the point is there more valve could do.
I'm not talking specifically about this case, but even if he had proof, Valve would not even look into it.

If you lend a car to someone, or they steal it and run someone over, are you to blame for their actions?

Valve pass a life sentence with no chance of a trial.

Its like we're all negroes in 50's America in Valve's world.

yeah, just watch him play... I remember that series against cooller before qcon where cooller was also hacking his ass off... so fucking obvious. I mean I think everyone who is a decent player in Russia knows that guys like base are hacking, which is why you get weirdness sometimes from Russian players.

Absolutely nothing here imo

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<< Comment #4 @ 05:35 CET, 7 February 2017 >>
By illiterate

Oh look it's a [+] farmer.

Actually, I think his game on Sinister versus Prox1mo has more interesting stuff. For instance, between 7:00-7:15. Two LG tracks that look snappy.

Nothing.

I played him and everything was legit. Could ofc also be that he needs the software only against stronger opponents.

Timing is off sometimes.

Misses a crucial shot here and there.

Walks around silently from time to time to figure out my position.

"Alltimes lucky"

Ok how to tell. I did not want to accuse Base of cheating. I thought it was funny to say so because of his weird mouse movement at the end of the clip. I wanted people to smile because its so crazy it could be called cheating.

But ye ok, Base is being accused of cheating. Maybe i should have not used that. But then again, maybe some people take to too serious. At least i think its pretty obvious that this is a joke. Or is this circling with the mouse human-like? Is it what humans most of the time do and an humanized aimbot has to mimic? C'mon...

From here on let us just enjoy the Base's play.

Don't defend a player who was just recently VAC-banned.

enjoy the skill that you lack

But he could download some skills

hey base, what can be said against not want to upload your recorded demo f ex inhere ?


i rly would watch it with timescale 0.1 again


ill wait of ur reply....but a voice tell me that i possibly wait forever

Yes zome plz ipload the demo!

People still defending him... I mean sure my dog eats my homework all the time too

lol that's not cheating

can I get plusses for pointing the obvious?

I would better watch Base techniques than Cooller streaming OW

Could be cheating, could also not be cheating. Need demo to analyse the mouse movement.

All the aimbots have parameters within which they are interacting. If his mouse motion was within the same scale during the motion then it's positive to aimbot.

So far with this .gif what i see is that he makes a few circle motions, doesn't go over a certain amoutn of height and crosshair always go over keel at the same moment of the circle which is wierd indeed.

Need demo to be sur but is does look like th exact same aimbot Daddy_ is using. he often makes circle motions like that and if i can have th demo i could tell immediatly if that's the case.

Can't say 100% convicted so far.

The screen capture of the chat where he admits cheating, was fake? People still arguing if he cheated or not?

That's news to me. Did he really admit it?

Cant find it right now, it was a steam chat screen capture iirc. Its in one of the recent base threads.

Love threads like these 8-D

T1E alltimes greatest at starting shitstorms. Feelsgoodman

T1E alltimes greatest

tread remind me this lil bitch ass classic =]

We need either Kevz, or Zhu's expert opinions.

LMAO

gotta love them triggerbots.

Base is now again going on his twice in a life time 2 week holiday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zsq_2igbas

Just one more proof to fact that people are really really stupid )

@fazz, can you see anything here?

So what if someone cheats? You think non-cheaters are so innocent?

I had to re-read this about 17 times.

If someone doesn't cheat, there is no reason to feel guilty. If someone cheats then of course they're not innocent. They should hang their head in shame. The gaming community have become so watered down it's unbelievable. The only game that is currently destroying cheaters left right and center is Overwatch, they are banning players via ip-range/dns. HWID. Mac Addresses etc. Yes I know there are way to spoof those, however they're managing to get it to a point where the person can't spoof they have to end up replacing said parts in question.

p4r4 claims another succulent victim

lolwhat?

https://youtu.be/y7ErFCqCXcg?t=37

No demo?

noobs and their threads...

morons and their shaky arguments

Lul I watched the video and thought this was a funny cocky thing to do in a cup game vs evil and thought that was the point of posting it.
Then people act as this is some form of added proof that Base is cheating....
Come on, he draws some circles with his crosshair and presses shoot at the right time to hit. That's nothing. He could do this with a blindfold and there still would be quite a high chance that he would hit.

It's like Chance Time in Mario Party:

On the other hand, I wouldn't let a VAC banned player play if I was in charge. He'd have to re-earn his reputation with a fakenick.

It's called shaking your head. Nothing more nothing less.

It does look lucky as hell and like he was giving up. He was going to get MG'ed to death in RA hole. He realized that and was raging...

Evil had picked up RA before his death and mega was coming up. base had lost stack for no reason, and because he dropped down like an idiot he was going to die to MG and look like a noob.

Why did he drop down?

Anyway, he was obviously pissed off at his performance and the outcome of the exchange and started raging...and somehow made a shot accidentally.

Little, weird...

Dumb exchange, Evil got the RA despite his death, base lost stack, base for some reason drops into an empty RA (WHY?!) and would have got MG'ed to death...except for a lucky shot while raging at his own performance and stupidity...

Sure...

does base use accel? it looks like he doesnt

Small amount

Happen to know his dpi/sense/accel?

Sens accel he showed on stream as ~2.4 ~.01 and yaw .020. I think dpi is 450 coz he was usin razer abyssus on a movie.

such threads can expose retards better than me

Not all retards are better than u imo

I found a chart of base his skill level:
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=RUB&view=5Y

Hmmmmm......?

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people talk about that vac ban is proof. but where is the proof for the ban? did he really get a ban for hacking in ql?

Refer to the thread by ins

ins hates duel in favour of team play modes...

You didn't read it then, okay.

compare him then and now, also he made a new account so he could play... there was also the chat in which he admitted cheating... also any real legitimate player would of been here defending themselves, but I'm yet to see any sort of puclic acknowledgement from him... judge for yourself, but people don't just get vacbanned, and I'm sure their are alot of players above him that hackers would like to ruin.

> compare him then and now, also he made a new account so he could play...
this is not a proof, this is a claim that he made a new account that he could play

> there was also the chat in which he admitted cheating...
chatlog? maybe the log is fake? maybe the guy named base was not base? maybe the guy who read that he admitted got it wrong, because he misunderstood?

> also any real legitimate player would of been here defending themselves, but I'm yet to see any sort of puclic acknowledgement from him...
pure nonsense

> judge for yourself, but people don't just get vacbanned
your knowledge about the world. not necessarily right and i am pretty sure that you did not put any amount of time into investigating if your statement is correct.

> and I'm sure their are alot of players above him that hackers would like to ruin.
terrorists

wow, maybe naivety does grown on trees.

I think you are the one who needs to do some investigating, instead posting here to defend the guy who you donated all your lunch money too.

wait what cheater ?! in quake live no one cheats !

in real sport there are rules how to punish someone for cheating. in here people are way over it. there is no compomise. no good proportion. people are aggressive.

But there was no punishment. He just chose not to play for a bit.

i dont care if he cheated. i enjoy watching him play and i am happy that he is here.

Maybe daddy should be allowed to play as well?

he won't win anything though.

Nah. Vermin Trustee Award fo sho.

is norm

these kind of shots are "easy" to make with the old abyssus and relatively high sens

i don't see cheat there

i hate my thread

At first I read "i hate my breed".

: D


True story.

the answer is here http://www.esreality.com/post/2858452/base-explains-flickshots/