we know.

pathfinder on film4, free shit is good anough for me

obv

Rome

you just like the sex scenes

Stop it.
Everyone knows that Full House was - and still is - the best TV show ever produced.

<3

fucking idiot

dont hate full house ya dirty scouse

the hell does this shit have to do with full house?q

thats an mv of full house; one of the most popular kdramas ever ;o

you are such a phaggot

He needs to hurry up and finish the books before he fucking dies, goddamn

like robert jordan did ;-<

i like brandon sanderson's style better tbh

Yeah, he doesn't go apeshit with convoluted descriptions and organizes the chapters a bit better. His dialogues don't seem as interesting, on the flipside.

Pretty much nailed it there...comparing the pro's and con's of both, I'll take Sanderson. Though I have thoroughly enjoyed every novel in this series, but I think The Gathering Storm is my second favorite to the eye of the World.

what utter rot. sanderson's style actually ruined the whole experience for me. its not fit for the wot series. i LIKED the convoluted explanations and setups. on the other hand sanderson's own books are pretty good tho.

I never noticed a huge difference between the books honestly other than the way they write some dialogues and the way they would describe situations. Honestly, when Jordan would write half a page about the way some bitches dress fit I would nearly put the book down, which is something I've yet to encounter in Sanderson's writing. In my personal opinion, he's doing an amazing job given his circumstances...Jordan was a phenomenal author in some aspects, but I think I liked his series for reasons other than why he became a bestseller. He seriously put me to sleep a few times, something Sanderson has yet to do in any of his novels I have read. Jordan may be superior in writing dialogue from what I've read of either author, but I don't read fantasy for well written dialogue.

Well said, my sentiments exactly. Matter of taste i suppose, but Jordan's obsession with details really started to wear me down around halfway of each book. That and the way he was all over the place with chapters. The thing is, it's the setting itself and characters and the way the interact with each other that made me stick with the books, and Sanderson left all that stuff intact, so i can't say a change in writing style made a huge difference for me personally, other than eliminated two annoying elements.

I doubt, if he'd rewrote the books all the way from the first one, his style would stand up to Jordan's - the ridiculously long descriptions, exposition and style of writing help immensely in drawing in the reader and making him stick with the books. It does get tedious after a while, nothing a short breather can't fix, though. But for writing what seems to be the final trilogy of books in the series, Sanderson's more simple and straightforward style goes a long way to close things out and tie all the loose ends together.

I'm halfway through Towers of Midnight atm, and i'm enjoying the shit out of it, same as i enjoyed The Gathering Storm. Only thing i'm sad/angry about is that i'm near finishing this great series. The amount of time i invested in reading all those books, the characters and setting seem like old friends, and i hate to say goodbye to them. :/

I know what you mean dude, as much as I'm looking forward to the last novel, I am almost sad that it's finally almost here. I read the Eye of the World when I was 12, and at that point it was the most entertaining book I had ever read, and is still in my top 5. Now here I am, about to be 23, and the series is nearly over...I've read through every book at least twice now except for the Towers of Midnight, which I will most definitely read again before reading the last book.

I've never thought the series to be the most well written or thought provoking that I have read, but it certainly tops my list of favorite fiction/fantasy series. The world Jordan created is nothing less than phenomenal, and every other fantasy book or series I've read I always find myself comparing to the WoT. I sincerely hope Sanderson can somehow continue writing the series, or at least continue writing in the realm Jordan created. I think there's certainly plenty of room for an endless continuation after the final book in the WoT, especially considering what happened in Towers of Midnight. On a side note, I know Universal bought the movie rights, and I believe someone else has video game rights who are possibly creating an MMORPG as we speak.

anyone posts any spoilers in here and i'll threaten you on the internet!

and then cry at having the show ruined :(

voldemort kills snape

Sorry, but hands down this is The Wire.

The Wire ended in 2008 so this thread is still correct

true, and tbh i enjoy "the killing" much more than this softcore middle age porn which is slowly improving right now.

Danish or American version?

us, you've seen the danish one?

Yeah, season 1 is really good, not liking season 2 so far..
From what I've heard the US version is good too, probably gonna watch a few episodes to compare :)

+ Mad Men

the wire best tv thing ever

so true

Nothing will ever top The Wire

Go Ned Stark!

haha did enjoy that'n gorra say

If we're on the topic, what else is worth watching? I haven't really seen any shows at all (except House herp derp).

Too bad House is pretty much over now.

Watched up to half of the sixth season.

i hope not

I don't see how they can really carry on at this point. Additionally, the actress that plays Cuddy didn't renew her contract - even if they do make another season, they'd have to do it without her.

ye, heard that too. but they can't let it end like this. atleast they could do some 2hour movie as ending or so, if not a whole season

House was over seasons ago when it became so fucking predictable.

(In no particular order)

Shows still on:
1. Game of Thrones
2. True Blood
3. Entourage
4. Breaking Bad
5. Sons of Anarchy
6. Dexter
7. Boardwalk Empire
8. The Walking Dead
9. How I met your mother
10. Modern Family

Shows not still on:
1. Sopranos
2. Lost
3. Deadwood

true blood sucks

VD >>>>>>>>>>>> TB

rofl. christ you're gay. i suppose you love twilight, too?

no twilight is shit

point is VD is better than TB...and more relevent than TB i.e. actually has regular killings rather than 80% sex 20% killings

tb > vd

it sucks compared to VD

you just like the kinky sex

ive watched vd and it's just too emotional for me... really like teenage girl drama... its getting kind of better now that theres a witch though

thats what makes it so awesome!! instead of some killing & lots of sex (rather just get to the point & watch porn instead) it has more killing & teen drama (a reason to watch tv shows)!

Teen drama, a good thing? Do you like Make It or Break It?

never heard of it

edit: just wiki'd & sounds a bit zzz (gymnastics) but then i saw the girls ;o

might check it out eventually but have lots of korean shit to watch

I don't get it - I see the girls on that program and I think 'wtf - that is fucking terrible'.

Are you saying you find that appealing? I don't get it at all :/

far left looks hot there & far right is ok too

Yeah but what does 'looks hot' have to do with everything.

nothing i was just saying she looks hot `-`

All awesome... I watched all the seasons of SOA a few months back, it's so so good. Can't wait for the new season :)

I'm not a fan of How I Met Your Mother - other than that your list kicks arse! I have to check out Sons of Anarchy I heard it's really good.

other than the wire not being on your list, and lost being on it, i agree!

Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy and Boardwalk Empire sound good. I saw the first season of Dexter, was nice, but I don't think I wanna watch another one. Also saw the first of Sopranos, how do the later ones compare?

Check out Twin Peaks, Carnivale, Charlie Jade, The Wire, The Walking Dead, Homicide, Dexter, Kingdom Hospital AND TRZYNASTY POSTERUNEK LOLOLOLO

Soon, Charlie is drawn into a conflict that involves these two universes and one other pacifist universe (gammaverse) with unsuspected terror at its heart.

:@

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, IT'S SUMMARY STEVE

so is there anything weird and mad as twin peaks?

I'd say Kingdom by L v Trier has the same dark plot, weird humor...

thanks, heard about riget

I've been meaning to watch Twin Peaks since middle school. :@ Also, what's Carnivale like? Ben also finds himself disturbed by cryptic and prophetic dreams doesn't really sound like something up my alley. c:

The Wire I will check out; saw the trailer for The Walking Dead and wasn't interested. Maybe too much zombie stuff in cinema nowadays. Homicide looks like a normal cop drama sort of thing and Kingdom Hospital like a normal horror sort of thing (:@), are they really good or just ok?

the wire is easily the best series ever created..
http://arts.nationalpost.com/2010/06/27/reykj...-the-wire/
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/01/u-s-atto...more-wire/
nuff said i think :)

close second (for me) is six feet under
carnivale is also one of my faves, its about nomadic circus during the dust bowl period, weird and interesting characters + a little mysterious main plot, great cinematography and also costly, which was the reason it was cancelled in the end :( but its got some closure at least
Riget/kingdom hospital is kinda interesting but in my case it didnt live up to the hype ive heard about it

I wouldn't list stuff i didn't like personally. Check them out or not. *shrug*

I was merely asking whether they are OMGWTFBBQ good or "ok, fun to watch" good.

I'm quite enjoying Spartacus: Sand and Blood

It can be rather vulgar, but the fight scenes are spectacularly over the top :)

I don't have a problem with vulgar, but what do you mean by over the top?

The only thing I mean by over the top is 'unrealistic'

Half of the things they pull off in the arena are impossible, but it just looks damn cool :P

Thats what I meant, my bad :)

Ah, I'd prefer something more realistic, for over the top fighting scenes I can just watch 300.

True :)

I'd still recommend giving it a shot for two or three episodes at least; there is a good plot and it's an entertaining watch. A revolution is literally coming within the show ;)

the wire , all the rest are shit

Watch whatever me and Phil quote on irc the most c:

Atm it is Game of Thrones

I've always had a problem with watching stuff based on books before reading the books, but it doesn't look like I'm gonna read lolfantasy so w/e. c:

uhh Dexter/Breaking Bad/Mad Men?

It is $ tho

Dexter can't be compared to this tier 1 titles.

Season 1 can.

100 times this

I watched three seasons of Mad Men before I realized how fucking boring it was. Breaking Bad better be good, I don't get why they need over a year between series though.

still best

its about the feel good effect around xmas time

serious

well not really....just makes your belly all warm <3

check it out yo

i'm betting it's something like a simulation of the gay stuff you do with your gf (if you have one, that is)

sif im that sweet

check out the 1st 2 eps yo

are u gay brah? i like asians but to fuck, not like love...

rofl

watch b4 judge

The great thing is that the story just gets better. The first book is the weakest in the series.

I guess you haven't read the 4th book yet then

I see we have different opinions then.

Breaking Bad tbh. Looking forward to the 4th season. $$$

It's pretty great. I'm a little distracted by the pacing, but having read the books first, i guess that's normal, stuff usually happens much quicker in shows and series. I'm also not too convinced about the actor that plays Jon, i always imagined him to be a fair bit more... rough around the edges, dunno. He looks like a pampered wimp here. Eh. They pretty much nailed the rest, especially that smug asshole Jaime and his cuntish but goodhearted bro Tyrion so fuck it.

Carnivale $$$$$$$$$

Yeah that was brilliant, too bad it got cancelled right when it was getting good.

the event is decent, alien race co exist on planet earth for years, so on and so on, missed the last episode after they teleported their whole planet to earth orbit because their sun is going to super nova

story line is rushed, and probaly end after season 3

It has already been cancelled.

wouldnt know, its a random program on c4 on monday, then gets repeated whenever its wants to be on e4

british free tv is always 5 yrs behind usa, except channel 5

Yeah we already knew that. Best series I have ever watched tbh.

youve watched no shows?

both the tudors & rome are better...

Haven’t watched Tudors (never heard of it actually) but I find Rome inferior.

how can you find rome inferior?...in rome you actually get to see fighting...

tudors >>> rome >>>>> game of thrones

game of thrones will be the best show u watch, when it develops more, according to the way the books are. So just wait.. there is tons of fighting and action and plot to come

there is no way it will be the best show ive watched if im 6 eps in and bored still. stretching it out so the good stuff doesnt arrive until season 5 doesnt make it good

last christmas = best; 11 eps, no more...full house = 16 eps, no more

america drags shit on so much its tedious. HIMYM has been shit for seasons but they continue to drag that out. if it doesnt get exciting until book 2 or w/e then they should have just started from there with voice overs/stories of some key parts before.

regardless of how good the rest may be its never going to be the best show ive seen when 50% of a season has been shit

Why dont you just watch UFC if want fighting. Are you one of those people who unironically love explosions and car chases?

the ufc is half-naked men hugging. and i like a good story with it. GoT has nothing interesting

'unironically'

I lol'd.

ive just downloaded cos of this thread (hadnt heard of it before) and so far im disappointed (watched 3 eps)...its basically rome/some other show with way less sex & violence...whats the point =/

would have been better if these 'white walkers' were vampires instead =[

*goes to watch ep 4*

Go and watch Spartacus: Sand and Blood.

There are lots of (too many) sex scenes, but the fighting scenes are awesomely over the top :)

I think the main actress is from battlestar galactica (not sure); the one that plays Diana?

Also really cool its about one of the earliest recorded (the first?) revolutions in history

i started watching it when it first came out...lost interest after a few eps

pff

THE SHIELD!

for me it's behind the wire, but still awesome

All u niggas posted the best shows i know, so ill post the best action anime i know, ya ya fuck you.

where the fuck is serial experiments lain in that list ?

never seen it, looked boring/slow

I'm not talking about Dragonball Z

dragonball z is awesome especially the movies.

All I remember is endless battles that would already piss the 4yo me.

http://www.mangareader.net/105/dragon-ball.html

much faster and same action.. if u didnt want to wait for it in the anime

Did you like the animatrix?

I only recognize The Matrix. The rest didn't happen.

and it's one of the only anime that is worth watching!

Outlaw Star [+]

didnt like the ending, just shitty

Overall it was good though, and I've seen shittier endings(claymore lololoi).

claymore is still going in manga form, the anime was shit

Berserk is fucking amazing. Both the anime and manga, although the manga downhill lately.

Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star and Ghost in the Shell. Can't be bothered to watch the rest of those

I've seen most of those.

You can see my list if you have an anidb account (under Lorfa).

Naruto/one piece are for young children as are some of the others on that list though.

Dbz although it is a classic I'd have to say that it is also for children.

Elfen Lied and Afro Samurai are both atrocious.

A lot of people like bleach but it does nothing for me.

I was surprised to see FLCL not on that list. Same with the cheesy but extremely entertaining classic Fist of the North Star.

I also really liked Paranoia Agent.

I just read the mangas of hokuto no ken, there are a lot of them

FLCL was too fucking wacky, i stopped at the first episode. Never saw paranoia agent.

I've only listed really action-adventure anime. Mystery/horror/comedy etc i don't list here since most regular ppl won't watch that

FLCL pwns, one of the best.

I haven't seen Monster, but I know it is very good. I just don't think I can hang with the 74 episodes.

Eureka 7 was good. R.O.D. was alright.

D-grayman sucks! You crazy :-)

Kekkaishi I couldn't hang with, after a bit it just reminded me too much of Inuyasha, which always felt a bit juvenile to me.

Blood the Last Vampire was just a very short film that Blood+ was based on. I really enjoyed Blood+, even though so many episodes and some of the characters were garbage. Kai was one of the winiest and most worthless characters ever.

I haven't seen most of those others you mentioned.

I started on D-grayman anime and switched to manga for easier reading. The manga has 1 of the best scenes ever, like fuck i got chills son.


I really like characters so my mangas/anime that i like always have great characters. Reading manga is much quicker, no fillers and the story is faster and easier to get into. Also, you can't say FLCL is one of the best if u haven't seen that many anime/mangas.. i've checked ur anidb list, it isn't that much.

I would check out these manga b/c they are really nice:
MX0
Bloody Monday
Battle Royale
Blade of the immortal
Zetman
Cage of Eden
Ubel Blatt
Berserk
For a start..

I've seen a ton more anime than is on that list, just a pain to input them all.

I really consider FLCL to be one of the best but differences in opinion are bound to happen.

indeed. FLCL is quite excellent IMO

one of my favs that I see missing is the misfits... but i heard Nathan won't be back for the new season :(

macgyver

the very best tbh

+

sick of shitty vampire shows

Like what? There's true blood which is pretty good and then nothing else that even remotely looks watchable... dunno how anybody could be 'sick' of them

i dont like the characters, although the woman is a hottie

seen VD? shits awesome!

seinfeld > *.*

Arrested Development > Seinfeld !

lol! Knew it :D

curb your enthusiasm :)

you're all wrong

dexter, workaholics, king of thrones, south park, arrested development, spartacus.

Only TV shit worth watching.

Hahahah, my mates introduced me to workaholics the other night - I loved it :D

its simple, retarded and fun. just like life should be lived :>

Don't think I'd enjoy taking mushie's during a shift at my job :P

No archer or Always Sunny love? Strictly comedies, sports, and science/history nerd stuff for me. I swore myself off tv dramas after the last episode of the Sopranos. Nice job laying down the pompous artist card on the last episode David Chase. Thanks.

On a lighter note..

chickichickaaaaaa

Archer is like Sealab on land.

EastBound and down

This!

Tour of Duty

Oh also, one of the best:

Probably the funniest show ever.

its 100% pure shit and unfunny, its not black books in black comedy, its just pure shit, it has nothing amusing even if you examine it

There are a bunch of excellent stand up shows from Bailey and Moran as well, worth youtubing for people who haven't seen them.

bailey died when he did that wildlife program

Damn, Bill Bailey jumped the shark too? What was the show called? :(

pompus fart going around the country putting up fences to top mice and badgers getting run over on main roads

aint no sharks in it

WAS AMAZING

better off with mock the week, its about the only funny things on british tv

and always full of the cleche standups

Have I got news for you?

nope, this

Thanks! I never heard of this show before, but it's pretty hilarious.

Yea, Bernard is just... <3

Love Black Books :D
His stand-up is hilarious as well. Easily one of my fav comedians :P

you all liking black books and think that guy is a good comedian is obviously why this forum sucks

Went to see him recently, was $

Haha Black Books, I had forgotten about that gem.

well, from the shows that are running, i must say i like the killing slightly more than game of thrones at the moment.. largely due to the atmosphere and cinematography.. (im also reading got)

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Justified yet. Where is the Timothy Olyphant love? Was the Hitman movie really that bad? Well I suppose it was but I mean Deadwood was good.

Another great show is The Riches, they only made two seasons unfortunately but so far the first one is awesome. I will post a bigger list later but lastly, Hyperdrive. You either love or hate those kind of British comedies, I love it. No laughter track is a must for me.

i recently watched both seasons of justified because i was looking for some show to kill time during exam period and i like olyphant.. when the main plot picks up the pace, it becomes really fun, cool hillbilly characters and accents, olyphants witty remarks + boyd..

I would thrown in Stargate Universe, but it got canned. =(

I feel it had too much human drama and not enough exploration, maybe it was too dark to be mainstream. I still liked it, it has good characters and casting, but I would have liked to see some more aliens in a Stargate show.

Californication, easily.

Didnt see anyone else say it so far, wtf? u guys must be weirdos if u rate some shit series like rome on top lol

Was so and so. Some of it was funny, but really cba watching another season.

oh and

Watched (or rewatched) and enjoyed by me in the past year or so:

Srs:
Breaking Bad
Game of Thrones

Comedies:
Archer
Arrested Development
Frisky Dingo (and the two X-tacles pilots)
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
South Park
Trailer Park Boys (wtf everyone forgot it?)
Venture Bros

All these shows get a tem-dorsement of between $$$ and $$$$$$

I've also watched some other tv shows which were less awesome (like parks and recreation, simpsons new eps, futurama new eps, but the first one seemed bland while other two don't have the brilliance of earlier seasons unlike south park which even though changed, has kept some raw elements*


* I heard liam likes the Futurama episode with the dog and appreciates when people mention it due to his fondness towards it. A gentle giant c:

I must admit, being a fan of the books, the casting for the show has been terrific. I can see in future when I read the books again that I will be imagining the characters in the show (SOME of them - like Arya, Tyrion, Drogo, Viserys, Littlefinger!)

I'm actually impressed that so many people think the TV show is good. Although I am enjoying the show I watch it and fear that it may inaccessible to people that haven't read the books. I'm glad to see that's not the case.

My only gripe is that 10 episodes is too few, about 13 to 15 would have allowed better pacing, when I'm watching it feels like a lot of it is rushed and they skip scenes (but not too many thankfully) Of course, maybe the later seasons will have more episodes, this will give GRRM more time to write another book too!

Man, just thinking about how awesome everything is about to come, honestly the first book is still standard fantasy and just setting everything up, at the end of the series you're going to shit bricks.

I also hope that they can figure out how to do some stuff, like the huge sea battle between like 40 ships in book 2. (With Byzantine Fire!)

Camelot was a major disappointment. The Borgias is really good though.

Loving game of thrones atm tbh :)

LOVE IT.

Pacing is a little slower than most shows but it still keeps me entertained throughout. I can tell it's only going to get better.

I officially have a major crush on Emilia Clarke:

Slow? It's too fast!

yea man; cant believe how much fighting theres been already...

:d

It's not about fighting.

yet they're key moments in the book and rather defining point of Robb, and later on Tyrion and lots of others. In fact, half the reason his 'clan' give him so much respect is the valour he shown in the battle they have just 100% cut out.

I gotta read the books. I just don't wanna spoil the TV experince because whole whole setting is so visual beautiful. On the other hand I can't stand waiting a week for the new episode, and on top of that the first season is about to end afaik.

What to do? >:[

dumb show is dumb. you guys are fucking losers. omg a tv show on a network channel its GOOOOD. u fgts will gulp this shit down like a over the hill prostitute with no teeth.

y'all don't know SHIT.

curb your enthusiasm
the office (the original, not that american crap)

Jesus Christ.

Shit just got real in Game of Thrones.

after waiting for the 5th book for like 20 years, seeing the instant game of thrones orgasmic bandwagon is pretty much irritating.

The so called "Lord of the Rings" effect :P

well basically yeah, but i wouldn't really compare martin with the kiddy stuff though

So? Does that mean you're a better person or something?

yes, you all need to fuck off.

hipster.

your so cool

Yeah yeah, admit it you saw lotr and then you figured "hey this genre seems cool maybe i'll read some extra stuff"

Nailed it!

I was told by a friend this was an amazing show but frankly I really don't see what the fuss is about. I've watched all nine episodes and so far I've found it average. The acting is so-so, with a LOT of actors constantly overplaying/being too dramatic - i.e. those who play Catelyn Stark, Daenerys Targaryen and Jon Snow + to a lesser extent those who play Eddard Stark himself, Cersei Lannister, Viserys Targaryen, Sansa Stark and Bran Stark. In fact, the only actors I think are doing a good job so far are those playing Barristan Selmy and Ser Jorah Mormont, and to a lesser extent Petyr Baelish. Tyrion Lannister is also played pretty well although the character is rather typical. To be honest, pretty much all the characters are one-dimensional. The scenario isn't anything special and rather predictable, the political intrigues are extremely basic... I also think the pace is too slow - I know those who've read the books will disagree but that's precisely because you've read the books.

I really hope it picks up steam after the first season.

I haven't actually watched any of it, just read the books. I usually wait for series to get like 3+ seasons or get finished then watch that show constantly till the end. I do this with major shows like The wire/ shield /24 etc.

I don't watch tv usually so i don't see spoilers, so when i watch a good show from start to end in a few days, i jizz like a motherfucker.

That being said, the books have lots of different plots that are very interesting and a lot of twists and really nice developments for nearly all the characters.

If the show is sucky, then they fucked it up. Really. Just get the books.

you're actually right

I do not understand the wank fest over the acting in this show

it isn't bad by any means, but it is contrived. What I find disturbing are the perverts jerking off over Arya, seriously it's average at best and she's like 10 you twisted fucks.

the books aren't _that_ grand either. I really enjoyed them and I am looking forward the next instalments but I wish the idiot blind fans would shut the hell up. Take away GRRM's killing of 'main characters (there are no main characters, it's about the civilisation and its story as a whole) and you're not left with that much worth raving over.

I'm with you on the acting. It's super melodramatic at times. It's warranted sometimes with the brutal nature of the times and what's happening, but a lot of the time they REALLY overdo it, and that bothers me. It's not bad acting, just really overselling it, which I'd rather see than some guy/gal/kid who can't act their way out of a paper bag. Overall the acting's fine, nothing to write home about, but certainly not bad by any means.

I actually agree, I'm watching it purely because 1h a week is not too much wasted time and I find it watchable (do note that I'm incapable of watching most series though, recently I've only managed to watch Spartacus (well cheesy but the plot wasn't that bad in the end) and Rome (not too bad overall)).

But frankly I can't call it amazing and I am kind of bored when watching it, haven't read the books but I'm not going to, got far too many things to read already anyway.

Thank god you hate the series, because if you would have liked it, it would have automatically meant that I would hate it.

There are enough series for your type of people already, so I suggest you go watch some of that.

What do you mean by "your type of people"?

dense, blockheaded, boorish, doltish, dull, dumb , fatheaded, ignorant, imbecilic, impassive, lethargic, numskulled, oafish, obtuse, phlegmatic, simple, slow-witted, sluggish, stolid, thick, torpid

take your pick

So you're bashing him because he doesn't like your show.

Saying that the characters are one dimensional, the plot is predictable, and the political intrigue is extremely simple etc. is so incredibly stupid that not even "being born in belgium" is good enough to excuse for that.

wow, you spotted some idiot who's not capable of getting the same impression you do. so if he "gets smart" and agrees with your oppinion, you'll actually switch sides and say dumb stuff, or will you focus your hate on him in reply, or do you think you can handle it?

Welll to be honest, its a good fantasy novel / series but its not quite up there with tolsoj or so is it

How am I supposed to know, I haven't read Tolsoj or Tolstoy or whatever, and neither am I planning to.

However I have read enough crappy fiction to know when something isn't crap.

(with the exception of the 4th book of the series, which I have already mentioned)

you're the type of person who reads lord of the rings, with the little gnome poems and all. aren't you?

Do you realize how ridiculous a statement that is? :p I didn't even say I hated the series, I said that I found it average and that I didn't really understand what was supposed to be amazing about it. I gave several reasons to explain why I felt that way, you're free to disagree but I think it's quite stupid to call me an idiot for having a different opinion than you. If you want examples of series I enjoy more, there's The Wire in the Drama/Thriller category and The Office (both versions, although in the American one seasons 2-3 are the best) in the Comedy category. Parks & Recreation is also pretty funny.

fuck the acting, its decent and that's enough.
the production value is through the rood tho, for a tv show atleast.

most non-hbo/showtime series make me cringe because the production is so bad. and tho the pay-tv series often have a very high production-values( for example dexter, californication, weeds and so on), this one raises the bar.

it looks epic, it sounds epic, it feels epic, so it's the usual bullshit for 12yearolds

Hehehe.

It's slow as turtles fuck..

It's slow for a reason. First of all, there are a lot of narrative threads going on that they're tying together. So it has to jump around a lot and little by little show what's going on with all the different characters and their respective subplots, so naturally it just takes longer to tell as the story has much more going on than typical trash television. Secondly, the story is brilliantly paced to make you give a shit about the characters. You have to spend enough time with characters, getting to know them, to care about what happens to them when things finally come to a head (like this past episode from Sunday-wow). If you rush it, you don't develop the characters properly and then when the twists and turns start flying around, you really don't care. It's about making you feel attached to (or generally having an opinion on) the characters in the show so that the events following have some sort of impact/consequence for the viewers, to keep them interested and watching. 24/7 bloodbath is fine for a 1.5-2 hour film, but for an ongoing series, things have to be paced slower for character development in order to maintain interest and make the events that unfold REALLY have an impact on the viewers. That's just how television writing works best. The best shows generally follow a slower pace (see: Breaking Bad). You should probably stick to predictable, linear television with cardboard characters and constant action if you think it's so slow. It's building to a season climax. And there's a lot going on, there's a lot to tell. It's really well-written, and very entertaining. You should probably stick to Burn Notice or something like that. Might be more your speed. :)

there's slow & there's snail pace. you forgot the main reason...they want to run this shit for 10-20 seasons and milk the shit out of it like how i met your mother which has sucked for like 3 seasons now

That's going to be a bit hard since they only have enough material for 4-6 seasons. It takes GRRM like 5 to 10 years to write a novel, sooo....

which how little has gone on this season i doubt theyve even covered 2 chapters. complete joke with the war too...hype it up then cover it on the cheap by just showing the aftermath

Lol, that's not the war, it was just a skirmish, the real war is still coming. And actually they've pretty much covered the first book, the next big thing happens to Daenyes and then the book ends on a wtf note.

rofl?! this is most of the first book? what idiots would read a book on that shit `-`

Well you obviously wouldn't read it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkKYNwYBYrs&t=0m30s

Lots of unnecessary tits.

Oh the humanity :(

If I wanted to watch cheap sex, I'd surf for pron :(

Also, best actor on TV:


He's always been good but maybe not gotten the best of roles, although the "Station Agent" was decent. But in Game of Thrones he just owns every scene he's in.

yeah, dinklage really shines as tyrion

He steals the show for me too. They should just cancel the show and do a spin-off series with this guy immediately.

this!

hockey fans might like this

The thing that annoyed me from watching a few episodes of this was the exposition. It's so clunky. Half the scenes are one guy talking to another guy, 'reminding' him about a bunch of stuff he already knows for our 'benefit'. For me it gets really old and predictable. "You have a son your majesty, your son's name is blablabla your majesty, hey remember that time last year where yadayada happened? I know you do, but I'll go over it anyway!"

Shit, wish I hadn't read this as I didn't notice it but probably will now. Still at least it's not as bad as inception

Well I watched the 4th episode and I'm pleased to see they eased off on the constant lore and are taking a slightly slower pace developing the characters. It looks good so far.

As for Inception I only saw it once, but when I watch it again I will probably notice it as well now that you mentioned it. :O

"Still at least it's not as bad as inception"

n00b

Get Nolan's cock out of your mouth

thank fuck there's someone else who thinks that movie was bad. was beginning to think I live in some parallel universe.

Ye I was really looking forward to it too, tried hard to like it. Just didn't see any point to it... characters spent the whole movie explaining the mechanics of it and nothing noteworthy happened at all

the whole thing is utterly pointless, from the plot to the action that was just some cyclejerk bore.

I hope christopher nolan dies fucking piece of shit

Yeah I mean, fuck, like why can't he be more like Michael Bay, we want explosions and giant robots god dammit.

Shit you're right it was actually a really deep movie and the only reason I didn't like it earlier is because I just didn't get it. If there's a hidden meaning in a movie no matter how small that makes it good because it's hidden you see doesn't matter if it's a bunch of boring shit so long as there's a hidden meaning. Cinematography.

btw I'm talking about Armageddon... we win Gracie :(

Ofc Liv Tyler is awesome!

inception seemed pretty awesome and definitely had interesting philosophical themes. that said, I only watched the first 30 minutes and I was pretty high, but chill the fuck out. it's just a movie.

give one example

well, if I have to give examples then I'd assume that means you either missed something I didn't, or I'm reading too much into my own interpretation of the film. neither of these things are necessarily bad, but if it's the former, I don't think I'd really do well to elucidate on the matter--that's something you'd need to discover for yourself. nevertheless, I can try.

that said, it's been over half a year since I watched it now probably, but I recall some interesting ideas on what makes consciousness or reality in the little bit I watched. it was also incredibly creative, with the cityscape deforming into odd shapes. I was pretty impressed with the vision. it may seem simple to most, but that kind of thinking is only trivial when you're unaware of the process involved in having such images and bringing them to life. it made me question what reality is.

inception was awful. just because it is (was) new and popular doesn't make it a genuinely good. I especially hate it when film kiddies that watch a film, say it's good, even though they've never seen genuinely good films like the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie or even fucking citizen kane.
i don't understand why people are drawn to movies that are dark (not even nior), full of narcissistic characters, and without any real-world meaning. everything about this is trite; take a couple of scenes from the dark knight and put it in inception - you wouldn't even notice the difference.

And of course, you can call it a fact to say whether a film is good or not.

I mean Citizen Kane is brilliant isn't it? You can't disagree with this sentiment. It's fact right?

Unless of course it's just an opinion, right?

What annoys me to no end is people that say a movie is great when they have no clue about films - they don't know enough or have seen enough. It is one thing to say that a movie is good and another to say that they enjoyed it.

Anything to do with art is of-course subject to opinion. Someone might think shit-smeared cock drawings on a bathroom wall is thoughtful and artistic; but if they haven't seen View of Delft (Vermeer), they don't know what they’re talking about (Similarly, Inception vs. Citizen Kane - incomparable).

Some of us still have standards in film.

And what makes you believe with such certainty that all of the people who enjoyed it (or called it good) have no clue about films ("films kiddies" as you said)?

"genuinely good" yeah right, you may as well have said "I'm genuinely superior to you lot, just because I think so"

so did you want to say something?

I meant a specific example rather than "there's some shit in there about reality yo" but kinda pointless asking you since if I understand correctly you've never seen the entire movie

I found all those ideas in the movie to be old ground, and none of it even presented interestingly, the only thing I thought was cool was the concept of someone training their subconscious to attack intruders (but psychonauts had the idea first :>)

if it means anything to you I'll mark this comment and come back to it whenever I finally get around to finishing the movie. it's been a long time since I watched it and being that I was pretty fucked up, I scarcely remember what was so awesome about it anyway.

of course I don't consider it a very "artsy" film overall and it didn't have anything original to say (that's nigh impossible for anyone), but it was cool as fuck.

You saw the good/interesting part of the film though, it seems like its going to be really good at 30 mins in, but it degenerates into a standard action film, with a bit of a twist.

I came out of the cinema a bit disappointed, I felt like they had some nice ideas, but they didn't really use them to their full potential, and the rest of the film is just filled with standard action and pretty boring dialogue.

Its not a terrible film, but I think you will see what I mean at the end.

Leonardo DiCaprio starred in a better "mind" film called Shutter Island, imo. I think it executes its idea a lot better than Inception. Also its got re-watch value :)

LUTHER

(For non-brits stringer bell is the main guy in this go d/l it)

When I read this I was secretly hoping Idris Elba would actually be playing Stringer Bell. Oh well, I will check it out none the less!

The Shadow Line is a breath of fresh air ...

Watched the last (I assume) ep last night and honestly don't know how I feel about it, some of the things that happened just felt really contrived

Since the first series has come to a conclusion I'd have to say that The Shadow Line is one of the most brilliant series I have ever seen, without a doubt.

Surprised no one has mentioned these:

Hustle (british show)
-5 conmen hustle bitches, very good cons and characters

Leverage
- 1 theif/1grifter / 1 hacker /1 mastermind / 1 'bodyguard' con people
- like hustle but superpowered individuals -> the thief is the best thief in the world, the hacker is the best in the world etc

The Mentalist
-A guy who used to pose as a con man (fake psychic) hunts down a serial killer that killed his family by working with the CBI.
- He uses various traps and cons to catch the criminals he encounters


White Collar
- A master of white collar crimes, fakes art and swindles money from people is caught and now works for the FBI
- think of the end of 'Catch me if you can' where Leonardo Dicaprio is working with the fed who caught him
- some good plots, some hilarious stuff


Supernatural
- Monsters,demons,angels etc
- Like buffy/angel but way better and has actual scary/gory shit
- hilarious characters

Hustle is my favorite. :D

Leverage is the same episode over and over.

Majority of all American TV is built up on that model.

fuck all that

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098878/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106028/

oh and

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0459159/

Joffrey is an asshole, I hope something terrible happens to him, and soon

he dies, don't worry

For some reason I'm not mad about the spoiler

Everyone dies. Painfully. (Not entirely true but close enough) Of course, one or two of the characters are the ones doing the killing.

Shushhhhhh

What? What I said was generic enough. :P

Will the show spoil anything past the first book?

Nope.

Dragons \o/

There's so little good fantasy movies/shows GoT seems like a blessing. Love the show and even bought the 4book box-set. I am in the middle of the first only though. I wish somebody would make the first law trilogy in to tv series hngggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Falling Skies looks to be a decent show.

ALIENS! \o/

I thought the first episode(s) were rather poor to be honest.

No real introduction to the characters, no introduction to the world they find themselves living in,...

Just felt like one giant battle scene (and not a very spectacular one at that)

Well they could always make another cop/lawyer/doctor drama.

Not like we haven't had tons of scifi dramas ;-)

This one seems like a mix between BSG and The walking dead

V to me was more interesting and even that got axed, not looking good for this one

V is kinda meh...

Falling Skies.. dunno, average on the first episode. Can go either way, probably gonna fail though. Just like The Event, which had a great setup and failed so hard.

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