i read that as dahang2000

From what we know him and Takasta12 are the go ebay sellers for WMOs.

Of course be aware it's an over 10 years old product, so what you receive might be used and materials are way worse than today's standard, plus that a 99.4% is not a 100% :P (on ebay 99.4% is not thaaaat good), etc.

If by any chance we get to hit the front page of Google search, this would make the forum less filled with irrelevant questions.

Such as one of the million "is my WMO legit?" question that have been pestering the humanity for decades?

I'm a fairly new user but I've grown tired of endless WMO threads - some time I ago I made an image that included all relevant info about the wmo, including indicators from which you can tell if it's a legit copy, different ways to overclock it, added all link to sources, even got help from Skylit and other guys from overclock...

All my "effort" was fruitless because I've come to the conclusion that WMO cannot live up to its name - people expect it to be something else rather than a formidable pointing device with no prediction, a solid sensor, shabby feet and a familiar, comfortable shape.

No I'm sorry this mouse won't make your breakfast or change your life drastically.

I've deleted that image and would like to replace it with a flowchart.




Until recently the market wasn't saturated with great products, now you have all sorts of superb mice with no prediction and a low price, dozens of tutorials how to mod them et cetera

Woe is me who spent 10 bucks on a mouse - if the seller is shit, name and shame and move on. I've purchased 3 wmos from dacheng and all of them worked nice, some blokes disabled it and compared to "original wmos" had exactly the same PCB. Some other guy said he got screwed over by dacheng.

Some say takasta is the only legit retailer but I personally don't trust those mods.

Do a quick seach on this website and all you're going to find out is that there is not perfect salesman and last but not least, there is no perfect mouse.

Sayonara


References:
http://www.esreality.com/post/2620436/my-wmo-...se-to-buy/

http://www.esreality.com/post/2614875/need-new-wmo/

http://www.overclock.net/t/1462960/are-takast...he-default

http://www.esreality.com/post/2529283/painted-wmo-s/

http://www.esreality.com/post/2494279/buy-real-wmos-where/

http://www.esreality.com/post/2533265/#pid2533265

thanks for typing that out

i have an absolute hard on for vintage.

after finding out about the WMO just recently, I have been ever searching for a genuine model but to no luck.

mind posting pictures of the WMOs you bought from dacheng2009?

thanks buddy!

Everything is on those links.

Sorry, don't have pics left, just formatted my PC and I've sold WMOs - I used to play around with them as a hobby when I still had some money left. I know a guy who lives nearby that has my mouse so I'll try to get a pic for you, but it was generic X08 series.

it's really not worth going so much into it, if you like the shape, fine, you need the wmo, but it's not some magical holy grail of a mouse. Find shape you like, play quake, that's what ppl did, and some liked the wmo and it somehow got legendary status for some odd reason. Yes, back in 2004 everyone was like, get the wmo or ime3.0.

I agree 400dpi no nonsense smoothing snapping, no nothing, is why the were so popular, but really not some sort of FATHER OF ALL MICE.

Microsoft mice was always build rather poorly compared to logitech of the same age. squicking buttons, shell banging and creaking, feet just a lump of plastic shaped to look like a foot. Logitech on the other hand had great mousefeet, sturdy build quality etc. Only problem logitech had, was the sensors had angle snapping, which some people insist are the devils work, that's ok. It's not any harder aiming precisely with it, and is had a special feel to it, that some ppl liked very much. Once a mx500, always mx500 shape user.

ESR serves as an elite gaming the world's largest C O O L L E R fanclub forum where the users seem to know their shit.

get your facts straight

might be a bit offtopic and i'm sry for that, but imho wmo are overrated.

sure the mouse works GREAT, good shape, and is very simple and cheap. But look, still, bad cord, only decent build quality, you have to o/c the usb port manually (and sometimes it doesn't work, like on windows 8), only 400dpi (sucks for game like starcraft or mobas, and also sux if you're using 1920x1080p resolution or something similar), relatively low malfunction speed (1.5m/s if i'm correct, compared to some more recent mice that can hold 3m/s easily) and finally, last but not least, as the time pasts, it's harder and harder to find new wmo, to buy a new one from trusted users/websites.

Wmo made sense from 2002 to 2006, because at that time there were only razer and logitech and their mice were debatable, angle snapping, forced to use drivers, not THAT good build quality, low malfunction speed and so on... But now we are in 2014 and it's not only about logitech and razer anymore.
There are A LOT of great and solid mice in the market nowadays from logitech, razer, steelseries, zowie, coolermaster, corsair, mionix, ninox etc... Most of them got much better build quality, ok, it's more expensive but it's worth it imho. Most of them got also much higher malfunction speed, and also probably a bit more accurate sensors.

In my case, i'm playing with 1600 or 1800 dpi, it just feels perfect to me, 400/450 is definitely too low for me, however i agree that anything above 2000dpi is just marketing bullshit, who would need more than 2000dpi really ?
I'm currently using the abyssus 2014 (as you might already know) at 1800dpi 500hz (default settings out of the box), without any drivers, and it works wonderfully. Razer made some improvment regarding build quality and shape over the years, so yeah, the build quality on the abyssus 2k14 is quite nice actually, shape is also very comfortable for fingertip/claw grips users. Malfunction speed is HIGH (~5.48m/s), and sensor just feels GREAT.
I see no reason for me to buy the wmo, really.

I think some people are tempted to buy the wmo because it's probably one of the mice that the pros players used the most. Cooller, cypher, rapha, toxjq, and also a lot of pro CS players. But what they don't realize is that, like some people already mentioned before me, it's NOT the holy graal. It WON'T make you play much better all of a sudden. The reason why the pros players using the wmo are so good with it is not because the mouse is THAT great, it's because they use/used it for a VERY long period of time and some of them never changed to another mouse for years. Basically they felt comfortable with the wmo settings and kept practicing like this for years.
For example, evil and strenx are using the kinzu v1, as well as f0rest from CSGO (well, not anymore but he used to use it for quite a long time), and see, they still rape 95% of the player base. Doesn't change the fact that the kinzu v1 is a bad mouse. Basically, you can get used to anything, even crap products/devices, you can be very good with almost any mouse as long as it's not TOTALLY crap.
But the PERFECT player wouldn't use the WMO, trust me. And even rapha and cypher AREN'T the perfect players.

There are A LOT of great and solid mice in the market nowadays from logitech, razer, steelseries, zowie, coolermaster, corsair, mionix, ninox etc...

steelseries rival, kana v2 and kinzu v3.

coolermaster storm alcor

mionix avior 7000

ninox aurora

At least not the aurora :P

Scratch zowie off of that list too.
And coolermaster is actually great.

tldr also no one cares about your opinion

maybe because it hurts your feelings to say that the wmo is not the holy graal ? ;)

DPI irrelevant unless moba/str
Hz doable on win7 (takes 15min)
cable better than braided ones

Argument should only be: play with whatever feels comfortable :P

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go figure :>

got 4 unused ones, I bought them from ebay in china. It says 1.1 and not 1.1a and it's fully black and not part grey-ish and part black like my former 1.1a.
It's the same damn mouse tho.

The 1.1 vs 1.1a are retail box vs OEM, cant remember which is which but yeah they're the exact same otherwise.

I bought a WMO (steelseries mod) from takasta:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121179666270

It should be a legit one (p/n x802382 ----> MLT04) but i'm not 100% sure, maybe some plastic parts aren't original, but i think the PCB is legit. i think i will open the mouse to check the PCB.

I've tested it and it feels the same like some of my old WMOs (yes i have a little collection), they are like more than 10 years old.

some pics:

http://imgur.com/r6FUZF6

http://imgur.com/sDhfrTX

http://imgur.com/KkjVZNu



-The grey base is really weird compared to my old wmos, maybe it's brand new i dont know, it's semi-transparent.

-The cable and usb plug are like the original.

-Mousefeet are not like the original ones.


If you have particular questions or need other pics, ask me.

Use mouse.
Does it feel accurate and responsive?

Do a malfunction speed test on enotus and see whether it reaches 1.2-1.7 m/s

 Enotus Mouse Test v0.1.4
Mouse: @msmouse.inf,%hid\vid_045e&pid_0040.devicedesc%;Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical
Model: wmo
Resolution: 400 dpi \bad\
Polling speed: 498 Hz
Max speed: 1.98 m/s (31155 points/s) \good\
Precision: 98.9 % (0.31 m/s) \excellent\
Smoothness: 8.5 % \ok\
Debug data: [('52', '0.71'), ('60', '1.98'), ('63', '2.00'), ('57', '2.00'), ('55', '2.00'), ('59', '2.00'), ('58', '1.99'), ('61', '2.02'), ('63', '2.02'), ('56', '2.00')] 

probably original

it looks legit, is doesnt have any chinese characters at the underside of the mouse unlike many models that come from HK or China

white version(which in your case is painted) is always semitransparent, black(dark blue) is non-transparent grey

I have white version but its not semitransparent.

I have both original white ms wmo and yellow takasta wmo like on the screenshot.
I tried replacing white body on top of takasta's bottom, and takasta's case is completely incompatible with original wmo. All the parts are different, buttons are different size and dont fit the case, case itself on takasta's wmo is thinner and cant fit on original wmo bottom, its just a chinese version of original wmo, not an original wmo in different color. I am not sure if actual sensor and all that stuff inside is the same as in original, didnt actually check, but in terms of performance it feels like original.
Even tho it acts like an original wmo and i didnt encounter any problem while using it, be warned what takasta sells is replica of wmo.
Playing on original wmo because i hate the feeling of takasta's glossy yellow case sticking to your skin if your hand sweats just a little bit. Bought it just incase my old wmo breaks, tho still goin strong after all the years :)

I got a IMO 1.1 from takasta that was pretty crappy.
The sensor seems fine, but the problem are the buttons. The sidebuttons are completely loose, the main mousebuttons also have almost no feedback (feels nothing like my other IMO that I compared it to, I doubt those are omrons), and the shell material feels different/cheaper too. Don't know if it was just unlucky getting a bad one, but if all the mice are like that then I can't recommend.