Get a job.

I have one, get the fuck out.

Sure thing, good luck with your endeavors. ;)

Prot, why are you always the king troll on this forum? Do you have a job?

No job, I live off donation threads.

ahaha

Can somebody legit confirm this enraged man's claims?

Don't even attempt that bullshit, I know it for a fact.

Sorry mate, you ain't legit enough so keep tight untill somebody I trust actually confirms the stuff you write. Have a nice evening (or what ever it is over where you live right now) ;).

It's 00:35 in the UK, so yea that's where I'm living. Legit enough? okay :D haha

I think more needs to be done about cheaters. It's gotten terrible over the past couple months.

Some time ago there was another thread about SA players getting banned..

I'm from SA originally, yet reside in the UK, I've not been banned, well I wouldn't be surprised if I some how long in tomorrow and wake up to a ban.

BR #1 hacker huehuehue u r shit my hax destory u jajajaja

So you're keeping track of QL ban percentages by nationality, over time, on a global basis, and you've been able to determine that id Software is purposefully and actively targeting South African players and banning them (as opposed to the rest of nations where they only
review demos which are submitted to them)? Or am I missing something?

I'm keeping track of the players who I've known for years. I must be highly delusional or an incredibly talented hacker for knowing these individuals. Who have bought a new computer, changed ISP's yet still get flagged by ID and their all knowing "system" of who hacks. Why would they purchase a pro account 3x and be banned on all 3 occasions yet there are no hacks installed whatsoever?

Because a ban for hacking is a permban, they use various methods of identifying a banned user.
It is possible to inherit a banned IP, but that's easy to see if it's *probably* that as the account won't be stamped with a suspended notice on their user page. A quick email to support sorts that one out if it was in error.

If they've been able to identify a banned user otherwise, or they've simply been detected as hacking again on a brand new system, then tough.

Various methods AKA bullshit.

Hey, guess what, with that attitude I wouldn't feel sorry for you if ID software just said: Just another bunch of hackers whining.. what bullshit. *deletes email*

People are trying to give you some reasons why some people might still be banned.

WHY THE F * U * C * K would ID target SA players? It just doesn't make sense...

Why the f*u*c*k would id go easy on Serbian hackers? It just doesn't make sense, yet they do (did) just exactly that.

Maybe because id present themselves to be sloppy and incompetent morons at best?

I thought serious is still banned.

I don't know the zeroQL story well enough, but who else from Serbia is hacking?

All hackers should be dealt with swiftly and mercilessly.

I do feel bad if ID really is 'hating' on SA guys and treating them worse than others :/

Serious is definitely still banned, that won't ever be revoked. I've been told by other players he's returned twice so far and those accounts have been banned too.

I've heard that line before

Kappa

yap, he keeps returning with new accounts :D

his last account to date is F1RE :D

Yep, but id refused to ban him until idoser finally made him snap. I bet that he would still be playing on his account if he had set his bot to 60% instead of 99%.

In (almost?) every freaking video of him, there were dozens of scenes where the cheat was rather obvious. id didn't react until he hit 99%...

Well, they give zero validation as to why people where banned (In detail) and what "cheats" they've been using. Their copyrighters have obviously written their ToS to be a bag of horse shit. Especially when people pay money for their premium/pro subscriptions. When they feel the need to terminate an account it's all fine and dandy. Yet people that actually do cheat get let off the hook.

It does sound pretty lame to not even give an explanation.

And there's been so many new cheaters lately (heard it from the people that duel a lot in Australia, not a dueler myself though).

Perhaps if we keep this thread civilised (not trolling dudes!) SyncError will see it and investigate it.

:)

I've got mad respect for SyncError, but it's just a bit stupid, About 12 months ago about 30 people from the SA community were just randomly banned. I doubt there'd be that many cheaters that play quake even if it was the case, the community is really close knit as it's obviously not as massive as EU scene.

Because a lot of SA players hack, so they get targeted ???

Next up: Mexico

uh oh ins gunna get banned!!! :(

Well then obviously it's because they set the South African flag in their profiles each time. Doh! Instaban!

I wouldn't even change the flag if I were you, you might get perma-banned, don't risk it quake is potat, this forum needs you!

"I'm keeping track of the players who I've known for years."

...what's to say you haven't know players that cheat for years?

he's been keeping track of them






































through walls

: D

their anticheat 'system' consists of guys who ninjaspec players in and make subjective decisions about the identities and behaviors of people. there's no code or updating involved. it's pretty shady. i'm curious about what sort of information the clients are capable of passing to people with administrative access to ql.

It's actually pretty easy to get a dump of anything that could be deemed as "3rd party" that is trying to manipulate the actual engine as whole for quake. We best not expose that because we'd probably instantly be seen has hax0rs.

Except it's not on systems where the hack can run with elevated privileges, which is why anticheat systems like punkbuster have to run services that run with higher privileges.
gg, but thanks for playing.

heh, accidentally hit iMsg... ah well, can't undo :/

It's all good.

what's easy or not is irrelevant to me. i'm genuinely curious about the information ql passes to volunteers.

Well they'll never reveal this as they don't want to have their own bread and butter game/engine seen as being flawed.

Who the fuck buys a new computer to evade a ban?

It's to prove a point, changing an area/isp and a brand new pc, yet the person gets singled out again, even though that person has never cheated in his life.

What it seems to prove is that they are consistent with their bans or that their system to track previously banned players is pretty effective. For better or for worse.

I still call bullshit regardless of it, there is no way on earth you can prove someone is someone else, if they've gotten a whole new setup/isp. There seems to just be a bunch of little shitnoobs that can't handle taking a beating and then when they do get their shit pushed in the cry to higher powers.

For what it's worth, I've personally known two people to get banned under pretense of hacking. The real reason they were banned is because of baby-tier players in NA close to the devs couldn't handle a beating. One was unbanned months later and one simply quit the game at that point. I've also known a group of players, all of which are friends, to be banned for alleged aliasing, though they all played at the same gaming shop.

What is the whole truth? I don't pretend to know in such cases. I do, however, know of id Software's incompetence. Wrongful bans are not farfetched.

Seems like it's the standard lately though.

Players from top SA Ca teams?

Your questions ho ho ho

something something nagger

what could their motivation for banning SA players possibly be!?
have you and or dopey been banned?

Nope, that's cause we live in the UK, probably.

well then at least my babies aren't banned :>

hahahahahahaha

You know what would be useful?

Specific names instead of flat out ranting without further explanation & evidence.

Specific names won't do anything regardless of the situation.

how could not providing names possibly be better than actually providing them? like acuerta says, without names/specifics, all we read is a garbage rant that makes you look like a tool.

how does providing names change that?

It just provides drama, the fuel of ESR.

Do you have a list of the recently banned players? I mean, "everyone" is not just five players, right? Please list the "unique" players accounts only, so not all those made afterwards by the same players trying to circumvent the ban (no matter if they were right it's still a smurf account, thus not increasing the numbers).

What if they were notorious players due to their skills, but those skills came from cheating?

Well the aren't, I've known them for years, played with them at lan events. So no.

So who are they? A list.

Syncerror has the list.

I am from South Africa, also live in the UK now though, but this has been an ongoing issue for a couple of years. Lots of players I know have been banned and re-banned, I think a couple took a long path into investigations with ID and I recall even Syncerror was on a server with one of them at one point.

There was speculation it something to do with certain hardware drivers, the South African static ip situation, a whole bunch of reasons they gave, but seems to still be happening.

stop cheating - problem solved LOL.

oh look, we have a comedian.

Delusional asshole has a better ring to it imho.

"Don't even attempt that bullshit, I know it for a fact"
"Various methods AKA bullshit."
"Specific names won't do anything regardless of the situation."

And then with regards to these names:
"Syncerror has the list."

Its all tall talk, no substance. If id has that reported, talk to them. What do you want us to do, hold hands?

Anyone can spin such tall tales. Yeah, they're targeting South Africa. No wonder you're in the UK, but don't worry they'll get you there too.

No offense man, but talk to id Software. A petition, collective email or whatever. And if you want anyone to sympathize with your cause, provide sources.

Collective IP bans are not uncommon, depends on the routing the ISP provides and leve at which the ban takes place. This however should be discussed with id Software.

http://www.qlranks.com/duel/player/F1RE but not banning serious his new account :(.

Banned

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/upload...t-fire.gif

As other said, we cant do much. What i can say, is that i had some players which i know would never cheat who got banned and unbanned some time ago.

Happens all the time: banning without reason or proof . This explains all the new accounts. And it Will never stop without anticheat :)

http://www.esreality.com/post/2655448/re-sync...pid2655448

^ Spotting a theme from this IP address.
Why don't you just start an evidence thread about your ban like everyone else seems to.
Foul language/threats/bad harassment gets you banned.
Cheating gets you permbanned.
Ban evasion gets you permbanned.
Leaking company secrets can get you permbanned.

Inherit a cheats IP and you can contest it with support.
I flat out just don't believe whoever you're talking about (I assume yourself tbh) didn't deserve their (your) ban.

If creating an account gets you "insta" banned then you were already banned for something, or you have cheats installed that are being detected.

You think you'd be banned for having old school skills when they know full well what people are capable of with players like Cypher, Evil, Strenx etc about? lol.

never been banned, no idea what you're talking about.

Why did you think I'm replying to you? :)

lol, strenx...

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/h_hippie

WHY ... WHY :[

Seems like they made the correct decision. Less weiners in QL the better.

banning african players to sponge, means he won't contract ebola

Does anyone think that there has been a huge increase of cheaters recently?