if you liked mx300 why won't you get g100s ?

good argument ) well I am mostly tending between the g100s and the abyssus so far, but in some forumpost I read something about the g100s having a "slow" buttonreaction or something like this? they called it different but iirc it had to do with the reactiontime of the mousebuttons and that irritated me a bit you know :/

g100s does not have any major button lag.

i use g400 with fingertip grip, don't have particularly large hands but it seems fine.

well it was some esreality thread where I read that the g100s is slightly slower than some other worthy mice concerning the clicktranslation or however it is called. I guess this is such a small factor anyway and I wouldn`t even notice it, but I kept it in my mind at least as one negative aspect.

regarding to the g400 I must say that this isn`t the kind of mouse I am looking for, because of its size. I am playing with a g9x at the moment which comes sizewise lets say a bit close and I can play with fingertip grip as well with it, but I really want to get back to a smaller mouse, because somehow I always felt more comfortable playing with smaller mice like mx300 and diamondback for an example.

clicks are fine on g100s, you must mess it up with something else

I can definitely recommend the Zowie FK!
Awesome mouse.
Sensor is pretty much flawless (nothing is, but it's flawless in the way the word is used around here).
Very good for fingertip grip. Light, thin, low profile.
Only complaint I ever heard about it is that the mouse buttons are to hard to klick. Personally never really noticed it and don't think it's a problem.
Oh and something you should considder: the LoD is very low (1.5-2mm), which is useally regarded a good thing, but takes some getting used to.
The mouse has weird DPI steps of 450, 1150 and 2300 and only those (no software).

Abyssus: Can't recommend it at all.
The mayority of the mice have a huge jitter problem and you need to get lucky to get a good one.
So far noone figured out how to fix the problem and Razer never bothered to fix it either or even aknowlege it. They just continue to sell flawed and practically unuseable mice to their costumers.
Abyssus also has the worst build quality I've ever seen.

G100s: Never used it myself. Read a couple reviews but still confused.
Some claim it has very low max tracking speed, some say it doesn't etc.

Regarding to the abyssus I heard that the mice which were constructed in like ~2011 or something like that do not longer have these jitter issues, but I don`t think that I want to get another razermouse anyway, because I didn`t have the best experiences with them so far.

Hmn I didn`t read anything so far about the g100s having a very low max tracking speed. The only thing I read was the thing with the reactiontime of the mousebuttons, but somehow it is very strange that some people say this and others say that. I mean the most of the comments about this mouse were quite positive, but here and there you also hear some negative things.

As far as zowie mice are concerned I must admit that I never had one and that I am not much into their products. I just looked around a bit and saw that it`s not just the zowie fk which looks kinda small and suited for fingertip grip, there are the zowie am and ec2 evo as well and I really have no idea what the best choice would be.

There's no way of knowing what you'll like without trying the mice for some time imo. You seem to have a good list of mice to check out. The advice I would give is avoid razer mice, they are low build quality from my experience. I have an abyssus but I don't use it, using microsoft ime 3.0 atm.

Mionix new mouse avior 7000 may be worth looking at, my first impression without trying it is that it seems heavy for a small mouse and expensive. Many people seem to like it, maybe because it's the new shiny thing though: http://www.overclock.net/t/1447157/mionix-avi...and-review

Personally I'll probably order a microsoft wmo from China, cheap and proven mouse. The downside of it is not being able to change dpi though, 6/11 win sens is way too low for me in many other things I do :/

Ye I think avoiding razer mice is not the worst advise. As I already mentioned I had some bad experiences with their mice as well. I only thought about the abyssus because of its form, but I think that the g100s has the best form in my opinion.

The wmo was my first gamingmouse, but it was very big and iirc it was kinda heavy as well. My second gamingmouse was the mx300 and I directly felt more comfortable with it.

As it is now I think I will buy the g100s or a zowiemouse, but I really got no clue in how far the fk, am and ec2 differ from each other. I mean they look the same, cost the same and seem to have the same technical characteristics.

EC1, EC2, FK in terms of weight/size from large to smaller. Only the FK is ambidextrous I think..

Dont know if you have normal or large hands, but with large hands the FK can feel a bit off. Its kind of slim, so wide hands and a tight grip can cause hand cramps for some, having to cup the mice kinda.

Thanks for this information. Well I would judge my hands more as normal than big, but somehow even the zowie fk looks not small for me. Well the only way for me seems to be having the zowie in my own hands once to check the size. With the g100s I am pretty sure that it would fit perfectly, but as I already mentioned I do not know if it`s a dope mouse besides its size and form as well.

Go with the g100s.

The FK would have been so much better with easier to press buttons, a regular 800 dpi step and a higher LOD

I'm using the FK and I totally disagree with you. I love those things about it. The only gripe I have is that its slightly too flat and thin for my hands.

send me the mouse + 50€ and you get what you want. ;)

well, 900dpi then

If you can make a sensei raw with an avago 3090 inside, I'll send you 100 euro. :}

it could be possible with DA3G / 3.5G.
they use sensors similar to the A3090(at 1800DPI that is).

why would you want a higher LOD?

Maybe he wants to use a glass pad?

Zowie AM doesn't track on it.

at first the low LOD kinda made strafe and circle jumping awkward. Like with my IMO when I would reposition the mouse it used to still track while I picked it up slightly, with the FK I just stop turning during certain motions. But I got used to it and I like the fact that the mouse doesn't do anything funny when I pick it up now

o.k. guys thanks a lot for all your comments. I decided to buy the g100s mostly because so far I had my best experiences with logitechmice (especially with the mx300 which is my alltimes favourite) and the g100s seems to come very close to it.

razer abyssus