pointless idea is pointless

Yes lets boycott the biggest quake LAN since we have so many LANS to go to. should id improve on their quakecon events? yup, they can do a lot of things better. but at the same time, so many companies dont hold LANS for their own game. they are still showing support for quake live. we should not boycott :D

yes, they NEED to improve, because right now tons of players wont go because there is too little info released on QC13

hi, you're mistaken. it's not a quake LAN. if you go there you can see this.

everyone plays league of legends, outside of the very small duel tournament that you can't see anywhere at the venue.

the biggest quake LAN is probably in some guy's basement at this point.

ehm I think you should be rather glad to have a major lan organzied by the publisher ;-)

I believe the event is organised by the fans and not by id/bethesda

SyncError is organizing most of the tournaments if not all of it.

that explains why it is so poorly run

instead of organizing quakecon he's busy trying to beat daddy on an alias

if he is truly in charge of this game than he should be replaced

SyncError is fine. And he loves the game.

nah, the dude is incompetent

As much as people love to hate on him and as many mistakes he did or does, everyone that attended Qcon confirmed that he worked his ass of jumping around the area making sure everything goes as smooth as possible and people that met him are aware his really passionate about the game.

It's just that his hands are tied most of the time and he can't perform miracles.

Honestly if I were in his shoes I'd probably resign from whatever position he's in right now because he's getting so much shit thrown at him and 90% of the time it's simply unjustified nerd rage that has nothing to do with him.

he might be trying, but in the end the event is too poorly run to be taken seriously.

ye I knew that fans were involved but still thought, that ID/bethesda helped

boycott ESR please

You're right, I'm not gonna go!

On a serious note it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever as I'd imagine nowadays quake players make up about 2% of the people going to Quakecon.

way less than 2% =/

You new brah? Tournaments will always take a backseat to everything else... quakecon gonna quakecon.

not true, quakecon is one of the least organized events for a number of years now. There is virtually no interest given to ql since 2009. While the idea may be extreme there aren't exactly many other options available anymore. Perhaps, top players skipping the event will at least send a message. The horde of players who play a conglomerate of games will show up anyways regardless how they feel about the company that is hosting the event.

tl:dr, top players not showing up can do a boycott, the rest of us have no power with sponsors/zenimax/id anyways.

edit: i do agree however that id has been incredibly rude to their players by announcing things last second for years now. They have really made it clear they don't give a shit about quake live.

Quake is a sideshow in that event. The main attractions are the lan itself, expositions and the main stage show. Quake is played in a different closed area, with 1/100 people compared to the rest, and the main stage matches are played after everything else is done (after guitar hero, after silly contests to get car tickets).

That means player names don't matter at all, to the point most probably the organizers don't know them. Numbers could if they are very low, but what that would only do is decreasing the focus on actual quake even more. Be glad there are lans left.


And even if quake actually mattered, it's never a good idea to threat people to achieve your goals, especially as the first attempt of making yourself notorious. The world doesn't work like that.
If you want to make a difference on this matter, send them a founded, well written email. It should include info from past quakecons, how other events tackle the issue and how you can help the actual organizers solve it.

edit: Now that I'm on it, most probably it cannot be solved since they cannot properly announce tournaments if they don't have prize money, which comes from other companies. It's a typical situation in which it's everybody's fault: intel, id, quakecon volunteers. You are probably blaming the second one, when you should blame the third but in reality it cannot be solved.

I don't usually post in threads like this, but I felt I had to say something:

This is the most retarded thread I've ever seen

qcon last year was most retarded qcon..

That was 2010.

my bad :X... but still. D

hey zoot,
check my bottom comment (where i clarified what i meant) and revaluate please

Posting in most retarded thread zoot has ever seen

Yeah, boycotting Quakecon is a good idea...




...if you hate Quake.

seems that you think the quake tournament is the highlight of quakecon

Registered: 27 Mar 2013

Toddler is talking gibberish.

shame that you (and many others) take this subject so personal.

oh well, i guess i should have expected that from game-addicts/nolifes

game-addicts and no lifes?

You want to boycott QuakeCon (whatever that means)

lol baited. somehow i knew you would feel adressed.

she does not even play i think, she just spends 24/7 on forums/irc

it is true that she does not have life though

> (ID) regularly shows no sign of attention or respects for the QL-Community.

emmm...have u ever seen THE MASTER with respect and attention to his slaves?

so u wanna stay slave lol?

They're already 2 steps ahead of you: they're the ones (secretely) boycotting quake by messing up streams, creating ridiculous schedules and refusing to upload players configs / demos.

YOU CANT BEAT THE SYSTEM BRO

yes, thats why im discussing a method to "wake them up" and force them to change their attitude towards the ql community

I'm not even sure you know what quakecon is and how it works.

quakecon works?

troll

How about you register so I can put you on ignore?

And no, this is not trolling either.

!

Nice try, zhu.

Go back to Call of Duty you retarded Anti-Quake cocksucker

lol u didnt get it. i love quake.

boycotting the ql-tournament would force them to be nicer towards their community, and invest more planing in the ql-tourney

quakecon is not a quake event, despite the name.

It would only make them cancel their support for the game, gg in that case!

quake players are a small minority at quakecon, so boycott wont make any difference.

Get a grip. It's great that id continues to support Quake at all with QL not even breaking even (as of 2012), and tournaments not breaking viewer records.

OK apparently no realizes what i mean:

obviously the ql-tournament players make up less than 1% of the quakecon.

but the ql-tournament is a tradition on quakecon. without players, they are gonna be left with a big hole, which is gonna force them to think

It would hurt Quake more than Quakecon / id.

elaborate pls

Quakecon is not about Quake. They would manage without us. idsoftware the same. They don't get big bucks from Quake Live.

But Quake needs LANs, we didn't have a major LAN for what, 8 months soon? And in spite of the mistakes id made in previous Quakecons, the duel tournament last year was still baller. And I loved the CTF as well. I wouldn't wanna miss this year's duel tournament, because if the players go, it will be awesome, guaranteed.

So in short, if we want Quake to thrive, we need LANs.

Yes, agree, LANs are the most important factor for QL.

Ok I'll explain you my ideal scenario, feel free to discuss how realistic it is:
- about 4 players show up for the QL-Duel tourney
- this sparks some attention in the gaming-world
- id/quakecon becomes embarassed and tries to make up for it by oragnizing the next Quakecon much better

Most likely there wouldn't be a next year for Quake at Quakecon after that.

first post in the whole thread that actually contributed something to the original question. nice :)

yes, thats a possibility. it would definetly be a risk. maybe a risk not worth taking.

Was daydreaming about a Quake LAN in either Vegas or New York where mostly people are playing Quake. :P

Force yourself to think, idiot. Again, nice try, zhu.

oh wow, didnt think people could become so bitter over a lost internet-argument oO

If only I didn't think people could be as stupid as you, or jamerio, or heartless, or cooloutac, etc.

proving your intelligence by calling others stupid.

omfg i really damaged your insides :DD

Lol at your assumptions. If noone goes they will just leave out on quake. Simple as that. Those pro torunaments have barely any value for anyone outside the quake community I'm sure. It is mostly an act of solidarity in my eyes.

"it is mostly an act of solidarity in my eyes" is what follows "lol at your assumptions"

see the irony?

The best way to make them realize we are emotionally hurt is to write a letter from the Russian Community.

words arent as strong as actions tho my friend

take a clan.

Esreality isn't made for sharing your stupid ideas

The only possible realistic outcome of that would be that QuakeCon would simply drop QL tournaments. In your eyes, it's

But as a matter of fact, there is no better way to make them realize that we find their behaviour disrespectful.

In their eyes, it will be : We're not gonna waste our benevolent time and money on those disrespectful brats anymore.

i would like to say this is not my alternate account

Fuck I laughed :D

First hitsu comment that made chuckle.

good one!

good thread

inb4 everybody agrees to this for some reason but in the last day cooller and agent secretly go and win everything because everybody else in the tourney are BYOC noobs

What the fuck is a Quake con.

they wouldnt give a shit, they'd just be more inclined to shut this ql down sooner

this year qcon will be more like wolfenstein-ad-con imho

They announced a Retro Doom 2 Tournament which to many may believe could be related to Doom 4 and Doom's 20th anniversary this year. So it could be more Wolf-Doom-con than Quakecon this year. I am thinking Doom 2 should be fun to watch though