yes my friend!

Maybe it should be possible for entire configs and a log of all vstrs, cvars, alias, binds etc that have been used by each player over the course of each match to be openly available for download by anyone, this way online cups can add a "forbidden rjump" rule, and admins can download cfg and logs and see if there is any rjumping going on for each player, or any other similar controversial script. This will have added benefits such as no more "GIEF CYPHER'S CFG" drama after each lan, amongst other things.

What do you think about removing rjump scripts palatka? :::::DDDDD

This seems to me the only viable solution, because removing scripting altogether would leave us without such wonders as volume/gamma control, nick colour changes, toggle lagometer, stupid clusters of /say binds, and a large etc...

We dident allow it at Dreamhack Im quite sure

I'm currently testing evil's cfg from DH winter 2012 and it has bind b vstr rjump :o

so thats how he flawlessly 180ş jumps from lower YA up to SG area on ztn while coming from mega, every time :|

same with rg to gl on ztn

Nothing in the rules for scripts, except timing scripts. So it's allowed.

Or maybe id software can simply make +moveup incompatible with vstrs or multiple commands. I wonder what syncerror thinks about it.

rj scripts were allowed in q3, cpma only banned ninja aka. forward rj scripts.

rj scripts were allowed at q3 lans?

yes, and in esl/clanbase/kuh3liga/you name it. what was banned after getting used a lot in one ctf eurocup is the mentioned forward rj script aka. ninja (which was the name given by fox to the vstr in his config iirc).

If I remember correctly it was fazz not fox.

fox using it on ztn every time going from tele to ra in like .5 seconds

So was fazz. I would say that fazz was abusing this script on ztn like no one else.

RJ bind is only useful for one thing, highest height in straight vertical jumps

if you want to accelerate in the horizontal, you'll find you can time the jump + shot better (and therefore faster) than with the bind

nope! manual is better for rjs with low heath though.

So.... Yep! You have no idea what he just said, clearly.

l2r

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he's right though, there's no way you can do a horizontal rj manually nearly as well as with a script (= ninja)?

not in ql because yawspeed etc.. is cheat protected

also ia was talking about something very different from what I started with, doing rj's with the lowest self dmg, which I didn't talk about

That isn't what we were talking about, though.

So to answer my question, only a vertical vstr rjump is legal?

if I understand correctly for the ninja script you'd need +moveleft or whatever it's called, and that unavailable in ql

Anything that can be scripted using pure vstrs and toggles is legal. If something got out of hand, it would be banned, just like +moveleft was.

whats the perfect vertical rjump script? i want to cheat by jumping from shards to ra on ztn

set rj "+moveup;+attack;wait;wait;-moveup;wait;-attack;-attack;-attack"

Actually

bind <key> +attack; +moveup

works just as fine.

depending on your lag, it won't (or atleast it didn't use to before projectilenudge).

Works fine for me between 45-90 ping.

your lag doesn't matter as long as both commands arrive at the same time. in response to megaman3 the old scrips that manually look down are less versatile than what nymphets pasted... but then again neither of them are a ninja script.

hm, ok :) i just copy n pasted stuff from fox config.

bind MOUSE3 "+attack;+moveup"

movement is part of the skill involved in quake, all scripts should be banned. Damn is there anything people won't do to cheat.

What else are you supposed to do when you are bad? Practice? Nah, too hard.

Yes scripting is legal as long as you make frag videos

ouch.

Yes scripting is legal as long as you make defrag videos

added.

If this is about the current RJ script I say leave it. The advantage it provides is minimal.

Since there is know yawspeed and pitchspeed, a proper RJ script that performs the RJ for you is not possible. All this script does is help you to hit jump and attack in closer succession.

The rocket jumps mentioned in this thread are really easy to do manually.

Really you need much more careful timings on most things than you do to hit +attack and +moveup at a quick enough interval to perform an RJ.

I can understand players on LAN with money on the line wanting the tiny bit of extra consistency, but it's really just psychological. It's a very very minor advantage if at all. Not worth implementing code to prevent it or making unenforceable rules on it.

not true, remember cooller vs czm on dm6. a failed rj can cost you a game.

Such situations are rare though.

but happen often enough that pro players like evil, linkin and fox have rj scripts.

im no pr0, but number of games i lost because i failed rj to ra @ ztn goes into hundrets

It's in fact a bad example as in this very case, the rj script wouldn't have changed anything. czm just landed from another jump and got some bounce, so he did his rj as usual but ended up with too much horizontal speed and then it the edge (that's what he said in an itw at least).

But generally I do agree that rj can be very criticial, cf the one stermy missed to get the LG YA at the beginning of a game on dm13 in the legends tournament, that cost him a lot.

Not a simple game, an ESWC! :(
Well, he won in my heart.

Are people really discussing this? RJ scripts are garbage. Way worse than even the worst manual RJ from some brand new player to the physics. There is no script to make complicated RJ's for particular circumstances. If there is an rj script in some pro's config, it's simply because it is residual off of someone else's shell scriptconfig. Why is it still there? I dunno, why would you bother to remove something you weren't aware of, had zero interest in it, and don't use?

Only if you are 18+.

Im a rocketjump retard by nature, can never make the heigest possible jumps.
But never used script for it :<

I´m so used to script on sidebutton, always use it, even if its a small jump. probly a bad habit ><