ESR - QuakeCon Day 3

<< Comment #1 @ 07:25 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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madbringer

Update: Still no VODs or demos available.

Rassum frassum

<< Comment #3 @ 07:30 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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brz - Reply to #1

downdate

<< Comment #48 @ 10:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #1

It's "PRIORITY" for them, so it's first thing they give absolutely no crap about.

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<< Comment #2 @ 07:29 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Smofo

When will the VODs of the CTF be available?

<< Comment #5 @ 07:38 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #2

for another parallel universe i can tell you the time, not in ours.

<< Comment #255 @ 20:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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pernix - Reply to #2

When HL3 gets released.

<< Comment #6 @ 07:52 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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jonesky

DaFaQ?

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<< Comment #4 @ 07:37 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore

Here we go again..... *sigh*

<< Comment #7 @ 07:53 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Carsomyr

What's even the point with these news posts?

<< Comment #8 @ 07:58 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ipx! - Reply to #7

Instead of hating against xou's work and his posts because of QuakeCon fail, I'd thank him for doing something right in this madness :)

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<< Comment #16 @ 08:48 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #8

good point

<< Comment #90 @ 13:13 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #8

what madness? we have two streams now, rapha just beat czm.

<< Comment #403 @ 03:53 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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ShadyVoltaire - Reply to #8

what madness?

THIS

IS

SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

<< Comment #9 @ 08:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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tony

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<< Comment #10 @ 08:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sk!a

Still no demos of the duels released? Who the fuck is taking enjoyment out of sabotaging this event coverage every year?

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<< Comment #12 @ 08:22 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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scowl - Reply to #10

I love how Carmack's 2 GB-sized keynote has been uploaded to Youtube, but a couple of MBs worth of demos can't be uploaded "due to upload speed limitations".

What a joke.

Edited by scowl at 08:22 CDT, 4 August 2012

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<< Comment #13 @ 08:31 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kevz - Reply to #12

loool, ive never heard so many over the top wrong excuses in 1 tournament at the same time

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<< Comment #20 @ 08:57 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #12

tru dat

<< Comment #27 @ 09:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Raist - Reply to #12

ahha, i think he is calling us all morons by that half assed answer

<< Comment #98 @ 13:18 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #27

i think he's right.

<< Comment #38 @ 09:46 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #12

carmack is ill, keynote was too short :/

<< Comment #80 @ 12:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #12

he was talking about VODs not demos, l2r. But I agree not even sending demos is just wrong.

Edited by GzUz at 12:55 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #87 @ 13:11 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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scowl - Reply to #80

He replied to a post that explicitly asked about demos. If anything, he has to l2r.

<< Comment #101 @ 13:20 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #87

EVEN if he did, he was still talking about VODs. And the post he replied to asked about demos OR vods, he didn't say anything about demos.

<< Comment #110 @ 13:51 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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scowl - Reply to #101

The post was mostly asking about demos, though. He either failed at reading or deliberately ignored this because his excuse doesn't apply to demos. Either way, a laughable reply.

Edited by scowl at 13:51 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #97 @ 13:18 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #12

you do realize the keynote could have been recorded by someone else on stream and uploaded to youtube from outside quakecon network?

<< Comment #108 @ 13:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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scowl - Reply to #97

To the official quakecon youtube account? Unlikely imo.

<< Comment #33 @ 09:44 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz - Reply to #10

But you can enjoy LIVE rebrodcast of a games broadcasted after hours they were actually played. What's not to like?
Tried to keep silent all that time, but this is hilarious.

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<< Comment #256 @ 20:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (92.76.235.166) - Reply to #33

There are rumours FIFA is planning to show some Blatter speech during next world cup final and inform people via twitter about scores of the match! When someone as important as Blatter wants to speak you have to set priorities ...

<< Comment #11 @ 08:18 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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InDepther

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even though it didn't really deserve any coverage

<< Comment #32 @ 09:43 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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hyperblastr

Who cares about quakecon day 3? no one gives a fuck since there are no vods or demos...

<< Comment #14 @ 08:45 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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MandoO

the tournament itself had many issues though, I still respect those participants.

D a H a n G
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<< Comment #17 @ 08:51 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Mustaine - Reply to #14

DaHanG \o/

<< Comment #15 @ 08:47 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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hitsu

who plays in these matches? awesome coverage is awesome :S

<< Comment #18 @ 08:52 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #15

~ 19:30 CEST - Duel Masters - Bronze final - Rapha vs czm
~ 23:30 CEST - Duel Open - Final - Exima(?) vs flysher I think
~ 01:30 CEST - CTF Open - Grand Final - ROOOF vs DaFoneMen
~ 04:00 CEST - Duel Masters - Final - Cypher vs DaHang

Edited by Yellack at 08:56 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #19 @ 08:57 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #18

Final - Cypher vs DaHang
wat?

<< Comment #21 @ 08:58 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #19

Final - Cypher vs DaHang

<< Comment #24 @ 09:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #21

Why isn't it:
Final - Rapha vs ...anyone ?

rapha noob

Edited by Ffleri at 09:02 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #25 @ 09:05 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #24

cause DaHang 3-0'ed Rapha!

<< Comment #26 @ 09:11 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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function9 - Reply to #25

Not to take anything away from Dahang, but damn, rapha was playing so timid in that match. There was times on dm13 where he'd have all but maybe one YA and would still chill in one of the side areas. Hopefully we'll get to see a nice final though.

Edited by function9 at 09:11 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #35 @ 09:44 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (146.52.21.11)

so was the duel final played at all yesterday?

<< Comment #41 @ 10:04 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #35

it's played today

<< Comment #22 @ 08:59 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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function9

For anyone hoping for VODs to be available soon, just remember that in 2010 the video footage from quakecon had to be delivered to id headquarters.

<< Comment #23 @ 09:00 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d

Can someone record the stream of the duel masters final and upload it somewhere please? I won't be able to watch it live and don't wanna wait till 2014 for the vods. :(

<< Comment #29 @ 09:31 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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esdf ' - Reply to #23

I could, but with my upload rate (25kb/s) you'd wait even longer.

<< Comment #30 @ 09:33 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kevz - Reply to #29

well if u can tell everyone in short what it needs to record a stream smoothly and with proper quality, anyone can do it :>

<< Comment #39 @ 09:46 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #30

well theres a few ways to do it, if anybody has some kind of screen capture software you just set the region of the screen to record. Or if anybody has xsplit you could stream the stream to an account on twitch.tv and the vods will immediately and automatically be uploaded to your twitch page.

We're gonna have to sort these things out ourselves because certain people at quakecon aren't capable.

Edited by dru1d at 09:49 CDT, 4 August 2012

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esdf ' - Reply to #39

what i thought of is using mplayer to play the stream and ffmpeg to capture the stream and encode... well, if no one else steps up, i'll record it, but dont know how soon i will be able to upload.

maybe i could just make a torrent of it and seed to interested people?

<< Comment #45 @ 10:41 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #40

That would be great. Wait to see if someone with xsplit and twitch account can do it first though because that is by far the easiest way because everything gets uploaded automatically.

<< Comment #51 @ 11:04 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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esdf ' - Reply to #45

yeah well, i've managed to compress my files on same good quality...
~200 mb for 20 mins, so that's not something I can't upload, would probably only last a night or so of uploading to some service..

gonna do it and upload if nobody restreams.

edit: just saw duel masters final at 4am, not gonna be up for that 100% so someone else should do at least that.

edit2: won't do it at all... not gonna be home, sry.

Edited by esdf at 11:38 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #28 @ 09:30 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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xoji

LOL @ today's schedule.

Where the fuck are the demos and VODS already. I don't understand how they can fuck up so badly for several successive years without learning from their mistakes.

<< Comment #31 @ 09:41 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mar- - Reply to #28

ID don't give s shit about the community

<< Comment #36 @ 09:44 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #31

who said q4?

<< Comment #34 @ 09:44 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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nex1 :

LMAO@QUAKECON

<< Comment #44 @ 10:31 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz

Any Quake mentions in the keynote?

<< Comment #49 @ 10:56 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt-iVFxgFWk
minute 17
ql makes money

german

<< Comment #59 @ 11:50 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Notreallyamember - Reply to #49

it's "making ends meet"

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<< Comment #65 @ 12:16 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #59

lol, ty

<< Comment #37 @ 09:45 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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rTx

what the hell are these creatures im watching on the rebroadcast, fuck you quakecon.

<< Comment #42 @ 10:26 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore

Whose line is it anyway:
Where everything is made up, and the points don't matter.

Quakecon:
Where everything is fucked up, and the viewers don't matter.

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<< Comment #43 @ 10:28 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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jetro

The rebroadcast (future VOD's I suppose) has a nice buzzing sound and the ingame sound is way too low. Quality isn't great either.

Another good day at the office in Dallas.

Edited by jetro at 10:29 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #46 @ 10:48 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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p4r4

Totally great, considering that own3d allows for completely automatic VOD recording that is available minutes to hours after broadcast and requires no resources at the venue.

Edited by p4r4 at 10:48 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #47 @ 10:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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hauer

This is how the admins get the VODs out to the fans.

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<< Comment #50 @ 10:56 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Shardik

No demos, no Vods and great final sunday @ 4h00 am CEST. Ok...this event is a big Fail.

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<< Comment #52 @ 11:11 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #50

You're gonna complain about the final times?

It's a double edged sword. I remember having to wake up around 5:00am to watch the final of the IEM World Championships both times. And I'm on the EAST coast.

Just sayin' =)

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<< Comment #56 @ 11:35 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sLowbi - Reply to #52

100% true.

<< Comment #57 @ 11:38 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #52

But you got a great show - it was IEM, one of the best events. And this time it's quakecon, just quakecon. There is no comparision to IEM imo.

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drink.more - Reply to #57

iem is way bigger then qcon wtf..

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Ziel - Reply to #57

I am not comparing the two events...I am strictly saying that us Americans have had to wake up early to see finals for European events numerous times.

<< Comment #67 @ 12:21 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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drink.more - Reply to #61

ye i know what you mean man and no bad feelings here, but with such organisation and prize pool(i think) and casting demos, there will be no qcon next year, atleast for Ql viewers ;)))).
ill still try to catch the final :)

go cypher

Edited by drink.more at 14:04 CDT, 4 August 2012

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sLowbi - Reply to #57

Quakecon is the only Quake event that happens in this country... ( and yes I know it fails so hard :P )

Only time we don't to get up at asscrack of dawn or w/e we get absurd delays and sit around all day looking at splash screens, so I guess it evens out :D

Edited by sLowbi at 12:33 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #60 @ 11:59 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #52

yep, but with quakecon u can't trust the schedule, therefore even if u wake up at 4 o�clock in the morning u will probably just waste ur sleep

the only thing u can do, is wield guessing

<< Comment #62 @ 12:01 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #60

You couldn't trust the schedule for IEM either :P I would wake up around 5-6am for the finals per the schedule and find that they were often delayed by an hour and sometimes two. LOST PRECIOUS SLEEP! :PP

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lukee - Reply to #52

well if you were on the west coast i don't think it would have been much of a problem...

<< Comment #88 @ 13:12 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Venim - Reply to #66

ya 1am is a lot better

<< Comment #131 @ 14:53 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Shardik - Reply to #52

Poor boy. You want links for Vods and demos ?

Edited by Shardik at 14:54 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #135 @ 14:58 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #131

Lol you mad.

<< Comment #177 @ 16:50 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Something - Reply to #52

Well, at least you had some coverage to watch....

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Ziel - Reply to #177

Do I have any coverage to watch right now? LOL NOPE

This "coverage" is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. Quakecon continues to get worse and worse and they never cease to amaze me each year by getting WORSE and WORSE. I honestly didn't think it was possible for people to continue to fuck up and make mistakes every single year.

We're all in the same boat here.

<< Comment #186 @ 17:07 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #183

Last year was pretty good imo, shame they didnt keep it up at all.

<< Comment #213 @ 17:44 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Something - Reply to #183

I'm not sure if we are posting/arguing about the same thing here?!

My point was that, whilst the iem finals were at an awkward time for you; there was the reward of having continuous coverage/casting of all important matches with no technical hitches. Whereas this time around; we stay up to the designated time to find no coverage whatsoever, no vods, not even demos: absolutely no "reward".

That was my point :)

And idd, we are all in the same depressing boat here :(

<< Comment #237 @ 18:28 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #213

Nah I know what you were saying. I originally stated that Americans have also had to wake up early for games, so the fact that the final is at 4am in Europe isn't really that big of a deal.

I wasn't trying to be like "oh we've had it really bad too having to wake up early!" I was merely stating a fact and that was it. So I'm not sure why people keep bringing up counters to my original statement as if they feel they need to justify being upset by the 4am match time because when it ultimately comes down to it, we've all been fucked over by this "coverage."

<< Comment #53 @ 11:22 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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clemso

wow ....just wow

now they show a trailer on stage, but instead of showing the trailer, all we get to see is the guys on stage. what amateuers are working there?

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<< Comment #54 @ 11:26 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #53

Yea I saw that, were they even showing a new trailer? Or are they just showing something everyone's seen before and then talking about it?

<< Comment #55 @ 11:34 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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clemso - Reply to #54

Funniest part is, that this is the stream they embedded on gametrailers.com

Enjoy your shaky cam, out of sync audio and stuttering video consumers!

<< Comment #63 @ 12:01 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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jwzr

gonna watch ufc instead

<< Comment #64 @ 12:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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xoji

LOL at the filler. Quakecon has its very own version of the TSA. Does that include the molestation?

Edited by xoji at 12:14 CDT, 4 August 2012

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Jako - Reply to #64

I look forward to see just one semi-positive post from you one day.

Edited by Jako at 13:17 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #106 @ 13:28 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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xoji - Reply to #95

Actually, the match for bronze was the first watchable game I've seen so far. Super smooth and it actually looked decent with their high quality cfg. Shame it took them this long to sort out.

My written diarrhoea is out of love. Perhaps my whine about todd hollenshead boasting about the insane bandwidth they have available actually encouraged them to set-up a 2nd stream. I like to think so at least ;(

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Jako - Reply to #106

Well, accept my apology after having seen the video in another post. I'm to say the least disgusted with id Software, and i hope they rot in hell.

<< Comment #78 @ 12:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Zallkar

What?! I can actually watch the games now.

<< Comment #69 @ 12:40 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sLowbi

mmm 60 fps :D

<< Comment #70 @ 12:41 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ggnore

Unwatchable, seriously.. quakecon you f*cked up.

Done with this freakshow

<< Comment #71 @ 12:42 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore

Rapha vs CZM now

<< Comment #72 @ 12:44 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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oneroomdisco

Don't expect much from mattcom, the guy can't even clue in and upload the videos from a different part of the network. Last year he didn't do shit all and also lost almost every video interview that ql. tv did. He decided to get wasted and publically announce it than do the work he was supposed to do.

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<< Comment #102 @ 13:20 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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drink.more - Reply to #72

hahah

<< Comment #206 @ 17:31 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Mattc0m - Reply to #72

i got drunk this year and deleted all the vods.

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havz0r - Reply to #206

Lol, incompetent guy trying to be funny, and failing at that also. Is there anything you can do right except miserably fail?

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<< Comment #73 @ 12:45 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Attyla7

double sound + lags + warping + some faggots talking = unwatchable

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<< Comment #89 @ 13:13 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sLowbi - Reply to #73

Throw away your shit computer

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khan_ - Reply to #89

Such a stupid response.

<< Comment #174 @ 16:36 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sLowbi - Reply to #167

It's not actually, because most people didn't experience those problems.

HD video at a high bitrate at 60 fps isn't a walk in the park, but you can get a computer that can watch it these days for quite cheap. Go educate yourself.

Edited by sLowbi at 16:37 CDT, 4 August 2012

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khan_ - Reply to #174

I have a good computer that runs HD video fine, but quakecon streams somehow take more processing and crash and lag more than any other video or stream.

Russian streams in 60 fps with 720p? Smooth, as hell.

Quakecon 240p? Nothing but cracks, lags, stutters and shit. It's just shit set-up.

Shit streams have nothing to do with computers what so ever.

Go educate yourself.

<< Comment #198 @ 17:18 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sLowbi - Reply to #178

Texas routing is notoriously bad thanks to Level3 Communications. Could be a routing issue.

"Shit streams have nothing to do with computers what so ever."

Yeah go ahead and talk in absolutes; totally makes you more believable.

Also, your computer isn't his computer.

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khan_ - Reply to #198

If it's the routing it's the routing, so why on earth would you think he needs a better computer, or that he should throw his out? Does your head go backwards?

And shit streams, streams that have poor hardware and shit routing, have nothing to do with a personal computer that receives it. That's just fact. The computer has no effect on the stream, if the stream is just poorly set up or poorly run on a poor network.

So shove it

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<< Comment #344 @ 22:34 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sLowbi - Reply to #236

Because both reasons are reasons the stream would come through like shit. Stop being a spiteful cunt.

Ran smoothly here on my pc, and not smoothly on my laptop, which has much older hardware, so obviously something is wrong with your shit. I know how difficult it is to accept that you're wrong.

I also watched the finals on a mobile phone on 3G internet and it was perfectly watchable. Dunno why I even bother here, you obviously don't know what you're talking about, and you're obviously not going to stop talking.

Edited by sLowbi at 22:43 CDT, 4 August 2012

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khan_ - Reply to #344

You're obviously not going to stop talking but I might as well continue, I like trying to bash sense into idiots.

My computer runs HD streams perfectly fine, with a few exceptions and those are routing or poorly set up and run streams. Those streams have nothing to do with my computer, at all. They're annoying. own3d is usually the culprit, but even the russians are able to stream HD on own3d and it works perfectly fine for me.

This guy mentions multiple reasons why the stream is shit (double sound, what fucking stream doesn't check for god damn double sound before going live? Shit streams son, shit streams don't.)

And you answer like a total fucking tool. "Throw away your shit computer"

You are just a fucking idiot. And you're a dick to boot. So shove it

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<< Comment #464 @ 08:46 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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sLowbi - Reply to #448

But you see (you don't see, because you're still talking), the stream WAS NOT DOING ANY OF THOSE THINGS FOR SO MANY PEOPLE, so the problem wasn't the stream source, it was the streaming service's failure to deliver it.

Yes, my response was unwarranted, and now that I'm involved in this ridiculous pissing contest with someone who doesn't actually have any points to argue besides "You're a dick, I watch lots of HD streams, and own3d sucks", I'm really regretting it.

Also "some faggots talking" isn't a legitimate complaint, it's a personal insult.

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khan_ - Reply to #464

It was doing it for me, and obviously doing it for at least some others since he is plussed.

You are a dick, I never said own3d suck but they sure as hell aren't good for me.

It is a legitimate complaint, but he expressed it in a childish manner. You then responded by being a dick, and an incorrect dick at that.

Just apologize and stop responding. If you stop responding, I will assume you apologized and we'll leave it at that.

Edited by khan_ at 09:58 CDT, 5 August 2012

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sLowbi - Reply to #479

"It is a legitimate complaint, but he expressed it in a childish manner."

No, it really isn't. I really is not a legitimate complaint and none of your shit talking is going to make it one.

I'm done with this. I'm sorry for the comment.

<< Comment #524 @ 15:46 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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khan_ - Reply to #482

Complaining about casters or people on stream is a legitimate complaint :/

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Jako - Reply to #524

Go go... i'm gonna go get popcorn!

<< Comment #227 @ 18:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Mattc0m - Reply to #178

Try running it at "Best quality" if one of the specific resolutions doesn't work. This is the stream straight from the event without going through an encoder, and sometimes works better.

<< Comment #446 @ 06:58 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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havz0r - Reply to #227

Yeah, like you know anything about streams.

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Anonymous (90.44.47.189) - Reply to #73

+ingame gamma 0.5 wtf ?

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jetro

Is that cocky "standard." bind some sort of inside joke?

Pretty arrogant if it's not.

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<< Comment #77 @ 12:53 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #74

welcome to america

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Memento_Mori ' - Reply to #74

It's a joke that started during a irl chat, and was brought into the game.

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ted

was that really czm?

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waltz - Reply to #75

Are the bronze finals done or what? So confusing
UPD ok, it's on 2nd channel

Edited by waltz at 12:55 CDT, 4 August 2012

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lukee

its unwatchable for you guys?

i have my dumb bitch sister downloading some dumb film taking all my bandwith

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kK_Storm - Reply to #76

It's perfect. She's a dumb bitch though, I suppose.

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lukee - Reply to #82

ona bolshoya su4ka

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<< Comment #116 @ 14:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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drink.more - Reply to #84

pic ;)

<< Comment #81 @ 12:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz

Great framerate for me. Like 40-50 at 720p

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13m3

at least now the stream is uber smooth, smoother than when I actually play. I blame my 60hz.

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<< Comment #85 @ 13:05 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz

Dunno how rapha have lost to dahang so badly. I'm very curious to see the demos and quite excited to see the finals actually.

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Fulgore - Reply to #85

I wasn't really that impressed of how Rapha played now, just disappointed of czm.

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afkElvis - Reply to #86

Same. It was clear from last zotac already, czm's lg was very shaky and his rail wasn't as bossy as it used to be. QuakeCon was just following the same trend.

Dahang has been playing amazingly well on regular occasions lately and I'm not surprised at all to see him in the final. It will be a good watch since cypher is on fire too.

dis gon b gud

<< Comment #134 @ 14:57 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #114

don't get your hopes up just yet, after all this is quakecon - you might not get to see the finals at all

<< Comment #94 @ 13:16 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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vxd - Reply to #85

I have watched rapha vs dahang (rebroadcast). It's not about rapha bad game but really great (agressive) dahang play.

<< Comment #104 @ 13:22 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #94

I missed that =\
shit

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24 - Reply to #94

On dm13 rapha had huge stack advantage for most of the map, and didn't commit to one fight, but always backed down at the very end. Dahang just stacked back up each time and eventually outpositioned rapha after 14 minutes, turned the stack advantage around and soon a frag followed.
Plus I haven't seen those incredible reads from rapha that he's well known for, where he knows what the enemy is thinking. Most of times on dm13 he looked clueless about Dahang's position.

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Venim

Not sure what all the whine is about. It was a bit laggy on day 1 but i watched a lot of ctf yesterday and the stream is even better today (higher framerate).

I didn't watch a lot on day 1 but the scheduling seemed to be on time for a change

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wormed - Reply to #91

I didn't watch a lot on day 1 but the scheduling seemed to be on time for a change

...lol.

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Venim - Reply to #93

instead of lol maybe you could say something like:

"it was terrible on day 1 but better on day 2"

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judge717 - Reply to #96

that's all well and good if you only cared to see the ctf tournament. we essentially missed the entirety of both duel tournaments (open/masters)

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<< Comment #92 @ 13:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Hito

Watch out for BS rockets!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyAfZxLRzgg

:D

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<< Comment #99 @ 13:19 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Jako - Reply to #92

Thats like the most insane rockets i've ever seen.

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madbringer - Reply to #92

do it on lan

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Anonymous (87.104.91.228) - Reply to #105

That was on lan :-{ (Dubai)

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madbringer - Reply to #111

Edited by madbringer at 14:04 CDT, 4 August 2012

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Ffleri - Reply to #115

was going to post a facepalm too but instead i thought just to n/c this...

<< Comment #100 @ 13:19 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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daka '

framerate was smooth, much better than day 1, too bad for czm i really wanted him to take the 3rd place

Edited by daka at 13:20 CDT, 4 August 2012

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baron Railgun :

FAILDAY 3

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<< Comment #109 @ 13:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #107

waitCon

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<< Comment #113 @ 14:00 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #107

FAILCON 2012
not just 3rd. day

<< Comment #112 @ 13:58 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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evl

What the hell, no stream ? they're all offline

<< Comment #117 @ 14:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #112

It's ok you can watch the vods.

Edited by dru1d at 14:09 CDT, 4 August 2012

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #117

i spilled my coffee:]

<< Comment #118 @ 14:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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rizzah

sif finals are on at 3am what the actual fuck

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vxd

Quakecon always was failcon / waitcon

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/18090-QuakeC...a_matters/

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<< Comment #120 @ 14:18 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore - Reply to #119

Interesting read

We were doomed from the start...

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drink.more - Reply to #119

big lol here!

<< Comment #123 @ 14:25 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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xoji - Reply to #119

The video is really depressing to watch.

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vxd - Reply to #123

yep :/

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<< Comment #175 @ 16:40 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #123

My thoughts exactly.

Times like these I am embarrassed for America. When the ESL and dreamhack do such a great job covering the game and host such wonderful events, and QL being so popular in EU, maybe some new branch of Id should just set up in EU to be run by Euros.

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drink.more - Reply to #119

"When John "ZeRo4" Hill and Alexei "Cypher" Yanushevsky showed up in the ballroom for the final, they were told that there was not enough time to play a full final." ..........hahahah wtf

<< Comment #128 @ 14:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ollir - Reply to #119

Well I just canceled my QL subscription.

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<< Comment #132 @ 14:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz - Reply to #128

What's the point now? Is that possible to get your money back?

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ollir - Reply to #132

No, but I'm not paying more either.

edit:
And if I change my mind, I can always resub. But atm it's not going to happen.

Edited by ollir at 15:04 CDT, 4 August 2012

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<< Comment #139 @ 15:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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drink.more - Reply to #132

do you see this video... FUCK THIS!!!
ponytail, come to me idiot!

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waltz - Reply to #139

Well, you can just stop playing. Canceling sub sounds like a big deal while it does nothing.

<< Comment #149 @ 15:25 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #144

except for it not being automatically renewed, duh

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waltz - Reply to #149

Got it, had no idea how it's working.

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ollir - Reply to #151

Ok, I'm glad this got figured out then.
Of course I'm still playing until my current subscription runs out. But after that, I don't know.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #128

so QL isn't fun because of a noob lan?

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ollir - Reply to #156

Don't pretend to be that stupid. I know you're not.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #163

i'm really, really, stupid. can you please explain the causation for your decision?

here are the reasons for me subscribing to QuakeLive: fun. QuakeCon isn't in there. i couldn't give a shit if there was no quakecon at all, or no tournaments at all. I'm subscribing to QuakeLive because it's fun. so, can you please explain how QuakeCon factors into your decision making to subscribe to QuakeLive?

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ollir - Reply to #172

I did cancel my subscription earlier today because there are less and less duels going. QuakeCon itself as an event didn't affect my decision in any way. So there.

Now, seeing Mr. Hollenshead and Mr. Stratton (in the video which was part of the story linked above) acting like the way they did towards the then QuakeLive finalists, it was clear to me that my decision to cancel my subscription was twice as good as I thought it would be.

And no, you're still not stupid.

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<< Comment #217 @ 17:52 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #176

it makes sense if you cancel because QuakeLive has less duels. however, why does seeing Hollenshead and Stratton be ignorant and dicks make you feel better? they don't care if you cancel, to them QL is a project on the books with some potential corporate benefit for which they are keeping it. what does this have to do QuakeLive as a game and as a form of entertainment of certain worth to you?

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wormed - Reply to #172

I subscribe to QuakeLive to support the game and its players. Gone are the days where QuakeLive has any appeal especially for someone in North America where the game is all but a deathly husk of what it used to be.

I subscribed to QuakeLive because I didn't want to be one of those free players, constantly bitching and moaning about lack of content; I wanted to be a subscriber to be JUSTIFIED in my bitching and moaning about lack of content AND support. God forbid, there are some of us who support it because we don't want to see guys like Cypher, Rapha, Dahang, Zero4, Spartie, Cooller, and the plethora of other awesome and amazing players be FORCED to change games or disappear because there was no support.

However, when the developer itself doesn't give a shit and the event that is supposed to hold one of the last remaining few big QuakeLive tournaments gets practically shit on, why the fuck should I support it? I can play the game for free anyways.

Fuck id, and you're right... you really are stupid.

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sLowbi - Reply to #119

The way they fucking patronize the shit out of them around 5 mins in is just disgusting tbh... also lol jock jams

Edited by sLowbi at 15:14 CDT, 4 August 2012

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<< Comment #143 @ 15:20 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #119

shit like that happens every single year at quakecon

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trolles - Reply to #119

Well... I should have watched that video before Failcon 2012. I would have had other expectations.

. <- The little hope I had on QL has vanished, although I feel a little bit enlightened. Knowing there is no future for the game is better than the uncertainty. Knowing the guys from id have so little respect for the best players of their game is interesting too.

I guess for them we are just money before a monitor. Well, not any more. They won't have a single cent more from me. GG

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #150

wtf does QC have to with QL?

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #157

QuakeCon
QuakeLive

ye, it's a tough one

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<< Comment #170 @ 16:27 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #164

Yeah, I always have trouble with words. So they're anagrams? What if I wear a 'QuakeKiller' hat and shoot up an orphanage?

Edited by Demiurge at 16:39 CDT, 4 August 2012

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #170

I always have trouble with words

You have trouble with one - context.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #188

i must, because the context is Quake. Quake causes QuakeCon and QuakeLive, but it is a one way relationship. various users of Quake just like consumers of various products don't have have ANYTHING to do with each other.

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #215

They don't 362 days of the year. In the other 3 they go to quakecon for the one thing they do have in common.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #424

going to quakecon and how they run it does not imply ANYTHING about quake. it's your relationship with some LAN organizer. Quake is not better or worse because of it.

Edited by Demiurge at 11:28 CDT, 5 August 2012

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nex1 : - Reply to #215

They HAVE a lot of things to do with each other: because the behavior showed by id in a lot of quakecons is just the behavior they usualluy have with the players and the game itself.

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son1dow - Reply to #170

Are you suggesting that it's as likely for QuakeCon to be named after the religious group as the game Quake?

<< Comment #207 @ 17:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #170

The more i read your comments the more i get the feeling you don't like the community,quakelive or this website.

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son1dow - Reply to #207

He's a troll with admin rights.

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r1ddler - Reply to #210

ye :/

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leopold ' - Reply to #119

At least we know now where that idiotic tl 10 obsession came from.

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<< Comment #220 @ 17:58 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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vxd - Reply to #160

haha exactly

<< Comment #454 @ 07:45 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (95.49.156.102) - Reply to #160

And yet it was Carmac himself pushing for TL 10 in the early days of QL, to give more bo5s in IEM or something.

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dru1d - Reply to #119

Rediculous. Just reject quakecon in future years, they are bunch of morons and every single year everybody is disappointed. I know it's another tournament but it's not worth it the way they treat quake like it's just some inconvenient pain in the ass thing they have to do every year. Tell em to take their tournament and shove it right up their ass, we'll wait for dreamhack.

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<< Comment #169 @ 16:21 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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wotan - Reply to #119

that was too repulsive to watch, closed after 1 minute

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Hito - Reply to #119

God dang.. that was painful to watch =( At the end... "Who is playing? Those 2 dudes back there?" Bah.... oh well, at least we get to hear voo yelling YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH CYPHERRRRRRR! That was money.

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Anonymous (109.80.56.20) - Reply to #119

it reminded me of
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1426026#pid1426026

<< Comment #252 @ 20:01 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ipx! - Reply to #119

Wow... just wow. What a big load of SHIT.

<< Comment #370 @ 23:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Jako - Reply to #119

Fuck me sidesways, this a disgrace, and it's even coming from the creators of the game. Utterly disgusting to watch /spit

This is gonna be the last i'll ever have to do with Quake, or anything coming from id Software.

I guess the phrase works.. Lead by example... No wonder Quakelive is off the table everywhere.

<< Comment #438 @ 06:28 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #119

the video was as difficult to watch as qcon 2012 stream, but for different reasons.

<< Comment #461 @ 08:26 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #119

"sorry, son, you have to wait????????!!!!!!!!!!!!"
To Cypher.........
To treat Cypher that way.... to me, he's justified if he drops quake for Shootmania.

<< Comment #148 @ 15:24 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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endzo

20:30 EEST , what time will be in lithuania ? :D

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son1dow - Reply to #148

It's EEST because it's already converted to your timezone. Lithuania is EEST during summer.

<< Comment #122 @ 14:19 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sleepii

so far the only useful video which has come out of quakecon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIOiaT5MjiA&feature=plcp

stephanie is hot

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<< Comment #126 @ 14:38 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Deadlynoob - Reply to #122

Omg like Im a girl, I have boobs and I play gamess

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sleepii - Reply to #126

u know u would hit that

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Deadlynoob - Reply to #130

Only Steph, and maybe chanel ;)

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<< Comment #507 @ 12:34 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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sleepii - Reply to #480

http://www.charismaplus2.com/gamers/wp-conten...anie11.jpg

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[mash] - Reply to #122

Like where are they from? They like rape the english like language with like their accent like.

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sLowbi - Reply to #127

i like lold

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nemecel - Reply to #122

Maybe because she is the only fuckable one

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nemecel - Reply to #122

Maybe because she is the only fuckable one

<< Comment #147 @ 15:24 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (2.94.212.222)

BTW, Russian restream at http://ru.twitch.tv/4cejkee?utm_campaign=live...oodgame.ru is very much fun to watch (provided u know the language:)) - there always smth going on and inbetween official matches they're playing QL, like, for example, tdm right now. They r doing it the right way.

<< Comment #159 @ 15:47 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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cerb0z - Reply to #147

Alteza owns :)

<< Comment #129 @ 14:51 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ischju

i have to wait 7h for the final? mmeh

<< Comment #133 @ 14:56 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #129

6 hours.

<< Comment #136 @ 15:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Shardik

480p + rusty cfg = pixel art

<< Comment #138 @ 15:04 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle

Scheduled: ### TIME SYNTAX ERROR ### to ### TIME SYNTAX ERROR ###

made my day

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<< Comment #141 @ 15:12 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Venim

lmao

Edited by Venim at 15:12 CDT, 4 August 2012

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<< Comment #152 @ 15:28 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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nineX - Reply to #141

Liam went to QuakeCon?

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<< Comment #158 @ 15:40 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #141

The only legal boobs you'll get on stream.

<< Comment #165 @ 16:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #158

someone please say "better this than nothing"

<< Comment #166 @ 16:10 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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frodonooblins - Reply to #141

Almost looks like Buzz Lightyear in some way, but a more plump version with boobs

<< Comment #171 @ 16:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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rareh - Reply to #166

He looks nothing like dahang

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frodonooblins - Reply to #171

i didnt say he looks like dahang, but thanks for bring that up.. next time ill use dahang

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rareh - Reply to #191

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/28669-DaHanG...Strenx_out

<< Comment #185 @ 17:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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fKm - Reply to #171

He looks like dis!

<< Comment #209 @ 17:35 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Horvi - Reply to #141

europe:

usa:

Edited by Horvi at 17:35 CDT, 4 August 2012

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Venim - Reply to #209

this should be good..

and it was ahaha

Edited by Venim at 18:13 CDT, 4 August 2012

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simonov - Reply to #209

more usa

Edited by simonov at 00:05 CDT, 5 August 2012

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aeoL - Reply to #209

It's the same guy, only that he spend some time in USA before Quakecon.

<< Comment #145 @ 15:24 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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endzo

how much time left till finals!?

<< Comment #153 @ 15:28 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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trolles - Reply to #145

your choice: wait till 4pm CEST or wait forever...

Edited by trolles at 15:29 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #155 @ 15:36 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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fuzz

czm cannot into RA at dm13

<< Comment #162 @ 16:04 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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tony

i just saw this
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/18090-QuakeC...a_matters/

lol

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<< Comment #173 @ 16:36 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Daddy_ - Reply to #162

oh my god, this was disgusting. I don't get id software...

<< Comment #180 @ 16:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sirax - Reply to #173

Basically why id haven't made a good game in 5+ years.

They think tv screen latency and guitar hero competitions are important.

<< Comment #192 @ 17:11 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (24.158.38.229) - Reply to #162

article from 2008? Seems irrelevant to how awful they're doing with this quakecon.

<< Comment #219 @ 17:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mar- - Reply to #192

It has changed to the worse...

<< Comment #230 @ 18:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #192

By that logic Bush politics are irrelevant to your debt. You sleazy republicans.

<< Comment #208 @ 17:33 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #162

ok, now i FULLY understand why quake was dropped from IEM.

<< Comment #168 @ 16:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Horvi

why is that despite its being a quake tournament everytime i turn on the steam its either someone talking or something completely unrelated going on. and when there is accidentally quake being showed it will surely end in 15-20

meanwhile.... in CSN quakecon stream (remember who collected money with kickstarter): call of duty :DDD

Edited by Horvi at 18:58 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #179 @ 16:53 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #168

Because QuakeCon is not a Quake tournament, they just host Quake tournaments although they have never been the main focus and coverage/streams have always been shit with huge delays, no "filler" content etc. The only time the stream was entertaining throughout the weekend was when 2GD ran things last year.

<< Comment #193 @ 17:11 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Daddy_

how long till the amateur final?

<< Comment #184 @ 16:58 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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nemecel

3:00 BST when is that in FRANCE?

I haven't been able to watch a single fucking duel of thins thing

<< Comment #189 @ 17:11 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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daryl - Reply to #184

your country nearly borders the UK and you don't know what BST is? ignorant European.

<< Comment #204 @ 17:26 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #184

in the news the timezones are activated, or not?

<< Comment #485 @ 11:09 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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daryl - Reply to #204

the timezones are dynamic, if that's what you mean. he has his timezone set to London.

<< Comment #212 @ 17:44 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Infuscomus - Reply to #184

Why do you need BST time ?

CTF finals -> 1h30 du matin
Duel -> 4h du matin

www.esportsfrance.com
http://frenchfragfactory.net

Juste au cas ou.

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<< Comment #187 @ 17:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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scriptor

where are the games

<< Comment #196 @ 17:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Snapphanen

Please, id software... Let me watch some Quake from QUAKEcon...

Edited by Snapphanen at 17:15 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #634 @ 03:19 CDT, 8 August 2012 >>

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Rothaarig3 - Reply to #196

I watched MORE Offensive Combat from Qcon then QL >8-D so far ... that says it all !

<< Comment #199 @ 17:20 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mar-

Fuck ID. When the new Doom 3 BFG-edition comes out, I'll go to the store, steal it and shit all over it.

<< Comment #200 @ 17:22 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #199

and after, you bring it back or keep it.

<< Comment #203 @ 17:24 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mar- - Reply to #200

Why? The game is shit, literally.

<< Comment #205 @ 17:28 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #203

some ppl looking forward for the doom classic games, maybe they have real widescreen support like the console ports.

<< Comment #201 @ 17:23 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kevz

AMAGAAAAD THEYRE TALKINGGGGGG

well zoot is, i cant hear dis haha!

<< Comment #202 @ 17:23 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack

Pro-Tip to id:
Besides streaming the same 4-5 Videos over and over again with ppl running around in an fps with bearsuits and bananas, you could have added a 6th with some crazy QL scenes and a msg like "PLAY THE FUCKING BEST FPS OUT THERE" @ www.quakelive.com.
I'm sure some1 out of the community would have even done it for free.

np

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<< Comment #214 @ 17:45 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Mattc0m - Reply to #202

it's a bit late in the year, but i'm all about streaming as many videos as possible (especially from quake live). in the past we've streamed some videos done by byoc folks, even.

next year i'll post a few weeks before quakecon and try to put together a good reel of frag videos / quake live highlight vids and such. should make things less repetitive.

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<< Comment #216 @ 17:48 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #214

please, stop

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<< Comment #231 @ 18:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #214

vods.

Edited by dru1d at 18:15 CDT, 4 August 2012

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<< Comment #235 @ 18:16 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #231

Dude, it took him two years after the spinning logo shitstorm to realize that the same things over and over again can get repetitive.

I wouldn't expect him to be able to upload VODs in a timely manner for another 3-4 years.

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<< Comment #233 @ 18:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #214

its not just to show fragmovies, its about advertising their own fucking game. People here whine cause they actually love the game and care about it and feel left alone by id

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<< Comment #234 @ 18:16 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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vxd - Reply to #214

Next year? There will be nothing next year. I feel this is one of the last quakelive events and "they" had to fucked it up.

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<< Comment #239 @ 18:30 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #214

man u should enter politics, u do many things with ur imagination

<< Comment #254 @ 20:11 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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hauer - Reply to #214

Where are the VODs of the duels? Both from the group stage and the knock out stage. We didn't get to see the majority of them. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

<< Comment #298 @ 21:56 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #214

you got jokes. don't bother showing up to Quakecon next year. if there even is one lol

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<< Comment #351 @ 22:46 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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drink.more - Reply to #214

next year...?!!! pf

<< Comment #352 @ 22:47 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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drink.more - Reply to #214

do you fucking with me?!

<< Comment #388 @ 01:29 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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trolles - Reply to #214

Really?? Thanks man!! That how things should be done! I have faith in QC and QL again! Fantastic! I am going to resub right now!

:/

<< Comment #551 @ 08:12 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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Nico_QD - Reply to #214

where demos, matt? where vods? where?!

<< Comment #555 @ 10:22 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #214

fool me once, shame on you, fool me every fucking year,..bah

<< Comment #221 @ 18:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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no_il

Hektik>toxicity

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<< Comment #228 @ 18:10 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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xoji - Reply to #221

Keep both and drop that snooze fest that is ZTN.

<< Comment #222 @ 18:06 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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inz^

surprisingly enjoyed the game, BRING HEKTIK BACK

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<< Comment #223 @ 18:06 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Leerno

a X e m a
X
e
m
a

<< Comment #224 @ 18:07 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Gladius

wow, that was actually one of the most tense hektik games I've ever seen. great game by both + excellent casting!

hopefully I'll get to see the vod of the final when I wake up tomorrow (hah!)

<< Comment #225 @ 18:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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lmx

i like the way u move - aXema

nice Dodging

(especially for rail)

Edited by lmx at 18:08 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #226 @ 18:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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xoji

Really nice play from axema. He looked really nice in the CTF, that game vs Flyscher on Hektik was epic. Sick rails.

<< Comment #232 @ 18:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Oaki_Duke

congrats to axema, entertaining matches

<< Comment #238 @ 18:29 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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evilbollweevil

knew the Open tournament would deliver -- although adrenal1ne :/
congratzo aXema.
-- rapha makes even ctf exciting: "we had zero4 in our garden" what a little general he is.

<< Comment #526 @ 16:01 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #238

wasn't my day :D

<< Comment #538 @ 01:32 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #526

you stepped up and competed where others didn't...shame ql doesn't have handgrenades--you'd be clownin' fools! gj though adzilla.

<< Comment #547 @ 06:10 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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INCubus - Reply to #526

fefe....

<< Comment #240 @ 18:31 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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vxd

I am wondering what has happend to syncerror. He has been even active before quakecon. I know failcon is not his fault but...

<< Comment #241 @ 18:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack

I like megaman3 btw

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<< Comment #488 @ 11:10 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #241

plus whore

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<< Comment #513 @ 12:50 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #488

<3

<< Comment #242 @ 18:34 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Horvi

and now masters final?

<< Comment #243 @ 18:36 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #242

~ 04:00 CEST - Duel Masters - Final

<< Comment #257 @ 20:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Daddy_ - Reply to #243

30 min then?

<< Comment #245 @ 19:21 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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jamalz

I just want to say fear & jehar are a fantastic casting team for quake

usually jehar gives his co-caster some weird jokes that they can't keep up with but fear just gives it back and makes the commentary pretty fun. also fear has good background knowledge of players and map knowledge (for ctf at least)

I am highly enjoying his casting, especially with jehar.

<< Comment #247 @ 19:22 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kevz

amazing ctf finals, really enjoyed watching that :)

<< Comment #248 @ 19:28 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ultrathin

any idea how long until the duel final?

<< Comment #249 @ 19:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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FarQ

Duel final is over. Awesome games. Well done Cypher!

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<< Comment #251 @ 19:50 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ultrathin - Reply to #249

I dont think so

<< Comment #463 @ 08:34 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #249

WHAT

<< Comment #250 @ 19:40 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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xoji

Zoot and Fear did a really nice job covering the CTF. Shame the final was anti-climatic. ROOF!'s team play was exceptional.

<< Comment #253 @ 20:07 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ultrathin

Duel final at 10:00 EST by the looks of it

<< Comment #258 @ 20:33 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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inz^

i refuse to believe the girls they get every year are not $20/hr hookers

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<< Comment #259 @ 20:34 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge '

omg, these cases are so fugly. and the presence of these women on stage is embarrassing.

Edited by Demiurge at 20:40 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #260 @ 20:39 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mistermojo

wtf am i watching

<< Comment #261 @ 20:39 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mistermojo

damn these quakecon girls look like they've been around for a while

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<< Comment #262 @ 20:46 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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rizzah

Highlights of Qcon 2012: Hulk case guy and that Asian from the keynote

<< Comment #263 @ 20:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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tom

when is finalz

<< Comment #264 @ 20:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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tom

when is finalz

<< Comment #265 @ 20:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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function9 - Reply to #264

According to the schedule, about 10 min, but I don't see that happening.

Edited by function9 at 20:55 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #266 @ 20:56 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ultrathin - Reply to #264

coming up shortly i think

<< Comment #267 @ 21:00 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Dav

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

<< Comment #268 @ 21:01 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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function9

disrepute = making flannel sexy.

<< Comment #269 @ 21:10 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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frs

is it finally the lightyear of the buzz?!

<< Comment #270 @ 21:10 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Lorfa '

They started a few minutes early..

Dahang omg!

<< Comment #271 @ 21:12 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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SigningOff

ztn was first map?

<< Comment #272 @ 21:13 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Yellack

fiiinnnnnaaaaaaaaaaallllll \o/

<< Comment #273 @ 21:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kK_Storm

DaHanG \o/

Posting while he owns cypher like there's no tomorrow.

<< Comment #295 @ 21:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #273

Well... Seems like DaHanG couldn't handle the loss on t7 after triple OT (and those drunk fucks chanting "CYPHER" again and again - must REALLY feel bad after such a performance by his 'home' audience).

Still, great finals. Shame dm13 turned out like that.

Edited by kK_Storm at 22:02 CDT, 4 August 2012

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r1ddler - Reply to #295

I think he had chyper down to 20-30health a couple of times and could have pushed, then failing that jump crushed his moral, on dm13 he even pulled out a pummle when it was 3:0 and just +f..quite unlucky, he really did play great up to that point

<< Comment #274 @ 21:16 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mar-

So who drugged Cypher?

<< Comment #290 @ 21:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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jamalz

i told you niggas before dahang + aim = FUCKING NASTY.

<< Comment #275 @ 21:25 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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baneman

cypher looking really nervous

also, wtf is up with the camera switching pov at the worst time in every fight

<< Comment #276 @ 21:27 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Lorfa '

Sigh, if only they could just r_gamma 1.5 or somt. Sooooooo dark :-(

<< Comment #281 @ 21:35 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #276

cant you change brightness on your monitor?

<< Comment #291 @ 21:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (91.51.155.215)

wtfffffff

<< Comment #277 @ 21:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mistermojo

damn cypher just beasted

<< Comment #278 @ 21:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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rizzah

epic aero

<< Comment #292 @ 21:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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CDRrules

This is a fantastic crowd.

<< Comment #279 @ 21:33 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler

them rockets..fucking hell what a beauty of an aerowalk

<< Comment #293 @ 21:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (91.51.155.215)

$$$$$$$$ rox $$$$$$$$

<< Comment #280 @ 21:34 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge '

wow cypher on aerowalk, really awesome. i wish i could buy 5 pro subscriptions!!!

<< Comment #476 @ 09:38 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Dird - Reply to #280

you can, give me one

<< Comment #282 @ 21:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d

This is why i fucking love this game.

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<< Comment #288 @ 21:50 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #282

but would you still love the game if carmack came on in overtime? would you cancel your subscription???

<< Comment #307 @ 22:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #288

You write that like I have a problem with Carmack and threatened to cancel my subscription at some point which I haven't.

To answer your first question, yes I would still love the game if carmack came on in overtime, but I would be ranting and complaining on esr about it because that would be a retarded thing to do. Any more questions?

<< Comment #317 @ 22:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #307

yes, why are you so crazy as to facilitate [id] killing this game with their shittily run coverage??? look at Todd going right into the stupid raffle tickets and some douche insulting ql.tv guys with 'almost like a sport, gaiz, thanks rasputin'. why doesn't that just make you not want to pay for this QuakeLive game???

<< Comment #331 @ 22:17 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #317

What are you talking about?

I maintain that mattc0m and his cowboy team messed it all up for a 3rd year running. Excluding casters who do what they're told. Pretty sure I haven't mentioned [id]

Although seeing as you bring it up, yes I will be thinking about not renewing my subscription when it expires at the end of this month due to id software's lack of interest in the game. See id software didn't make this final great, they couldn't give a fuck, nor mattc0m and his cowboy team, the players and the casters made it a great final.

Maybe you have me confused with somebody else.

Edited by dru1d at 22:17 CDT, 4 August 2012

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #331

no, i'm trying to blend in with the rest of the esr. although the reasoning about id Software lack of interest is very similar.

<< Comment #303 @ 22:01 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #282

a bit gay but whatever

http://www.imagebanana.com/view/bl4q3su8/quakeheart.png

:D

<< Comment #283 @ 21:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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lukee

so good

<< Comment #284 @ 21:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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SigningOff

ooooooo

<< Comment #285 @ 21:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kevz

o m g, amaaaaazing stuff

<< Comment #286 @ 21:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mar-

CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER

<< Comment #287 @ 21:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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SEAN P

holy shit this final almost makes up for the rest of the event

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<< Comment #311 @ 22:05 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #287

almost, but not quite.

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<< Comment #289 @ 21:54 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge '

lol dahang is raged. wp cypher.

<< Comment #294 @ 21:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Horvi

Cypher still king

<< Comment #296 @ 21:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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rizzah

dahangs fallen apart

<< Comment #297 @ 21:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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SEAN P

ya last map totally disappointing. oh well the other 4 were good.

<< Comment #299 @ 21:56 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Ziel

AMAZING final.

Cypher king of aerowalk.

Cypher did to Dahang on t7 what he did to Cooller on aerowalk...insane.

Since the final map wasn't as close, I still think the Cypher vs Cooller final was better.

WP Cypher. WP DaHanG. Thanks for making the final so entertaining. Definitely needed it after the 'coverage' that has been going on this event.

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<< Comment #302 @ 21:58 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #299

it's pretty fucking impressive that someone as calm as persistent as dehang seems to have been mentally destroyed.

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<< Comment #343 @ 22:34 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sleepii - Reply to #299

prolly a lot of factors go into why the last map was such a blowout (in comparision to the cooller series)

-dahang lost 2 in a row, cooller lost 1 (then played an evenly matched ztn but had an amazing start on it as well if u recall)
-dahang made a massive mistake (1 wrong move, rest of the game was fine and it was a simple jump), cooller played poorly on map 4 in general.

this was true for the DHS 2012 tournament as well. cypher played 2 really close games, but then the last one was a blowout (probably ran out of steam).

<< Comment #300 @ 21:57 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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kK_Storm

Hey, I won my bet on cypher! :D

But seriously, I'd like to hear from DaHanG what threw him off so hard at dm13. Really bad decisions. Baaad. :X

<< Comment #309 @ 22:03 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #300

Was the t7, dahang fell off the ledge or somt at YA and got LG'd in like the third over time. Seemed psychologically hosed by that.

So on lost world he was like not even playing.

<< Comment #358 @ 22:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ChillOut - Reply to #300

I bet it all on dahang, I could have stayed 3rd not betting at all :o
o well. Very good games :)

<< Comment #301 @ 21:57 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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inz^

such an unusual way of +backing, never seen anything like this before
absolutely amazing

Edited by inzov at 22:52 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #304 @ 22:01 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (90.44.47.189)

am i the only one thinking Cypher loose the 2 first maps on purpose to give a great show? Cypher trolling on? :)

<< Comment #310 @ 22:04 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #304

I missed the first two maps =\
but you're not alone...

<< Comment #305 @ 22:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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RonC

Lost World - never fails to ruin the game with lucky spawns. cypher getting everything at the start tilted dahang. ouch. this map should be annihilated on the face of Quake

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<< Comment #469 @ 08:59 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #305

dm13 raged loser detected

<< Comment #306 @ 22:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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palatka

well done cypher

<< Comment #308 @ 22:03 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler

aero and t7 were pure fucking quake gold...the shit chyper pulled wtf..dahang played so well, right until he failed the jumped :P

<< Comment #323 @ 22:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Tuubi

Cypher getting lucky with spawns on t7 and dm13, I feel DaHangs pain..

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<< Comment #339 @ 22:24 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz - Reply to #323

DaHang had a lot of lucky moments too. This game is half luck, it's never is an excuse.

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<< Comment #322 @ 22:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (91.157.22.78)

aero was sick sick sick also t7 soo tense holy shit :o

<< Comment #321 @ 22:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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rmd_

CYPHER \o/ \o/ \o/

Great finals... i set alarm clock to wake up to see it... and i have no regrets, almost makes up for the whole crappy event.

after 0:2 i somehow knew Cypher will win Aero in style (ALO CRAZY ROCKETS!).. and then on t7 such a close game, i was really impressed how he played out of control (even though he was missing a lot of shots he still managed to win). Lost World... well, no idea, something happened to Dahang and he snapped?

GG both, was grand finals worthy of Quakecon.

\o/

<< Comment #320 @ 22:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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whisp3r

gg cypher

<< Comment #319 @ 22:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (199.48.147.45)

Quit act Cypher good play on Furious Heights.

DaHang shoot 16% railgun 50+ shots. Miss many rail in overtime with Cypher back turn.

DaHang choke not Cypher play good.

DaHang haunt forever from this result.

From,
Cooller 2nd place eternal to Cypher/Rapha

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<< Comment #340 @ 22:25 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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pernix - Reply to #319

seems legit

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<< Comment #392 @ 01:43 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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simonov - Reply to #340

especially the non-russian ip.

<< Comment #389 @ 01:38 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #319

alltimes lucky =/

<< Comment #494 @ 11:21 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #319

"eternal" and "2nd place" gives it away

y u so bad at this :/ :/:/:/

<< Comment #312 @ 22:05 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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evl

CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER

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waltz

CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER

<< Comment #318 @ 22:09 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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thek1ng

GG Cypher !!!

<< Comment #315 @ 22:07 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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MandoO

really hoped DaHanG to win. :(

<< Comment #316 @ 22:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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vxd

Dahang looked like he was in the best shape of his quakelive history. I thought it would be 3:0 for him but Cypher... is Cypher :))

<< Comment #324 @ 22:10 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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outlaw

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Edited by outlaw at 12:56 CDT, 13 August 2012

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<< Comment #325 @ 22:12 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #324

oh, i thought he was just getting outaimed. still not sure what tilting has to do with giving up and going all forward.

Edited by Demiurge at 22:35 CDT, 4 August 2012

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nex1 : - Reply to #324

[+]

<< Comment #326 @ 22:12 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mar-

Cypher got DaHang of it

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<< Comment #327 @ 22:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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outlaw

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Edited by outlaw at 12:56 CDT, 13 August 2012

<< Comment #332 @ 22:18 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #327

if you mean totally throw the game as opposed to just not trying, i've never seen him give up like this, perhaps i miss it every international lan. do you have any examples?

<< Comment #346 @ 22:38 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #327

i think it means fold, still not sure what it has to do with giving up and going all forward. but if that's what it means, I still have to say i've never seen him do it, so would like to see any examples?

Edited by Demiurge at 22:38 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #395 @ 02:28 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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losty - Reply to #346

tilt is a poker term. it basically means to lose your discipline.

<< Comment #328 @ 22:15 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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vxd

Cypher - he came, he saw, he conquered

<< Comment #329 @ 22:16 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ashy

no clue how cypher managed to hold the score on 1-0 for so long on ztn, I don't even dare to imagine the amount of pressure.
i might be wrong, but it's not the first time cypher wins a b05 from a 0-2 score, that's impressive

on the other hand dahang played in such a marvellous way, yet his aggressive style which might work on other maps, costed him the final map and thus the match

one of the best aeros ever

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<< Comment #330 @ 22:16 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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orrrcccus

What happened with awarding the players on stage ?

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Infuscomus - Reply to #330

IN 20 minutes they said -they said 30 ten minutes ago actually).

<< Comment #333 @ 22:18 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Infuscomus

DAT FINALS OMG !

Like, this just cured the massive disappointment of the first day.

Also, please someone RECORD the check ceremony, I'm dying now and I'd like to see it).

Edited by Infuscomus at 22:20 CDT, 4 August 2012

<< Comment #334 @ 22:19 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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sk!a

Cypher, pure genius :)

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<< Comment #335 @ 22:19 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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SEAN P

would have been interesting if the final map were hektik or something else.

<< Comment #336 @ 22:19 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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uniiity

CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER

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<< Comment #337 @ 22:20 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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jacksonpark

ahhaa lmao at the guy with the gumball challange....well trained guy.

<< Comment #341 @ 22:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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inz^

"medals inspired by the olympics"
pretty sure its because they dont want to waste money on trophies anymore

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<< Comment #342 @ 22:32 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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lettu

Hulahoop challenge, pure genius :)

<< Comment #345 @ 22:35 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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outlaw

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Edited by outlaw at 12:56 CDT, 13 August 2012

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<< Comment #354 @ 22:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #345

http://i.imgur.com/rFYBd.png

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INCubus - Reply to #345

I worked my hands to the bone to bring you these fine ESR replies.

<< Comment #347 @ 22:41 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz

LET'S GO OFF THE STAGE LEFT
God, that's so harsh.

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lettu

But when are you going pro???
I fucking died :D:D:D:D

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<< Comment #350 @ 22:46 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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jacksonpark

Im pretty sure Rapha got a gf...thats why he sucked this season :P with that awesome hair , who wants to be a quake pro? :P

Wel cypher was frikking amazing to watch!! but DAAAANG DAHAND brought the game him.

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<< Comment #353 @ 22:49 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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mouse*

doesnt matter who got first. dahang won and quakecon lost

<< Comment #355 @ 22:50 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ZeriouS

All duels passed? ............................................ :[

<< Comment #357 @ 22:53 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #355

you just missed one of the very best bo5 in quake's history, and probably no vods (quakecon)

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<< Comment #359 @ 22:55 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #357

DOH ! :/ But at least I had a good sleep :> :D >:D

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Gladius - Reply to #359

True story: I woke up because some mosquitos at exactly 4.30CEST. Switched on my computer and was able to watch the final 3 maps =p

<< Comment #423 @ 05:43 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #408

lol I read mosquitos switched on your computer, was like wtf :D

Edited by Yellack at 05:43 CDT, 5 August 2012

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Akuma - Reply to #423

Same :)

I also woke up by chance and caught the last 2 maps :)

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Gladius - Reply to #437

haha, great =)

<< Comment #528 @ 16:56 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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2pak - Reply to #423

Same ahahaha.

<< Comment #356 @ 22:52 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (2.94.212.222)

Its even incomprehensible how cypha managed to hold to his 50/50 or 70/00 stack for so many times. It was like the return of the Divine Aero vs Coolah multiplied by 4 ('cause cyphe actually had next to no problems on the 5th map).

Its a pity Dahang slipped on lw, but its in no way depends on spawns ffs! Dahang had a lot of opportunities to slow down the pace and turn the score in his favor, but he somehow couldn't manage his head-cooling. Uber aggression worked fine on the first two maps until cypher worked out the counter-measures against such a piledriver techniques. It worked against the demi-godlike cooller, so it'll work against anyone on earth, except maybe rapha. It still remains a mystery - how does Cypha manages to stay alive for so long without any solid hp? Its like fucking chess against super-computer - it can throw away half of his army at the fist turn and still win. HOW THE FUCK DID HE DO THAT? Is he a skynet operative?

This show really compensates every fail the failcon brought to us this year. No thanks to orgs, however, but thanks to such an amazing Gladiators of Quake as Cypher, Dahang and a few others. Today's The day the niggaz took over!

Yeah id, go on fiddling with your tickets and shirts, bring bubblegum next year to throw it into the crowd for the whole event timespan and don't forget to stream it all instead of Quake, ofc.

<< Comment #360 @ 23:02 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz

Funny to hear all that 'next year' stuff. I wonder what 2013 QC will actually be.

<< Comment #366 @ 23:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #360

id Software would kind of have to go bankrupt for QC not to be held, it's first of all a volunteer lan that doesn't require money, second id Software convention.

<< Comment #373 @ 23:36 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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waltz - Reply to #366

Whatever.
I mean, who's going to play there.

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Badb0y - Reply to #373

for the players it wasnt bad. only for us viewers.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #376

bad? the net effect is still positive, no matter how 'bad' it seems.

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p4r4 - Reply to #382

What is positive about it?

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #407

as a viewer, anything you view for free is positive, even one game. not viewing anything is the default.

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p4r4 - Reply to #497

But people don't behave like objective logical machines and they don't compare what they see against "not viewing anything", they compare it with whatever expectations were arisen by pre-event hype.
E.g. if I promise you a great interesting job with huge salary, and then next day call and tell that I'm sorry but the job is no longer available, you would be disappointed, even though nothing objectively changed for you ("net result" is zero, not negative).

Edited by p4r4 at 12:19 CDT, 5 August 2012

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p4r4 - Reply to #366

Prize pool donated by volunteers?

<< Comment #492 @ 11:19 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #406

by ventrillo, bethesda, etc. these companies aren't going bankrupt either, and the prize pool isn't necessary to run a lan and an open tourney.

<< Comment #361 @ 23:07 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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DizzyMage

rapha, it time to grow up and get and education, you bum

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Jako - Reply to #361

WHY SO SERIOUS?!?!?!?

<< Comment #362 @ 23:08 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Krz

most entertaining lan final i've seen in all of quakelive.. awesome show cypher/dahang, some crazy stuff happened tonight =]]

<< Comment #363 @ 23:12 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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evl

Streamer playing Quake while shitshow goes on XDDDDDDDDDDDD

<< Comment #364 @ 23:13 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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DizzyMage

what place did zero4 get?

<< Comment #365 @ 23:14 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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dru1d

Thought I'd write a little summary from what I saw this weekend.

Day 1 was a complete shambles, one stream showing Carmack's keynote which is fine I enjoyed watching the VOD of it on youtube since I couldn't watch it live because I was too busy trying to find the stream for the actual tournament which of course, there wasn't one.

I enjoyed the CTF coverage because after much whining from the QL community mattc0m and his cowboy team apparently worked all night to fix up a second stream for the games. That's right they seemed to have forgotten about the games so had to put in some extra effort to make sure they got streamed. Yeah, like a computer, a copy of xsplit and an internet connection won't take care of that.

Today seemed to go well except for akward moments where the casters were showing us around a map whilst we are are looking at them at their desk. Waiting until 20 seconds into a game until they change camera to the in game view but those things are to be expected at quakecon. Dispite the poor organization from the mattc0m cowboys during the start of the tournament the final did not disappoint, and that's thanks to cypher, dahang and the casters.

I think the first day speaks volumes though for what quakecon is and what It's about. Or rather what it's not about. It's not about quake that's for sure, it seems quakelive is more of an inconvenience for them than anything.

WHERE ARE THE VODS????

Edited by dru1d at 23:17 CDT, 4 August 2012

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Anonymous (31.17.210.109) - Reply to #365

http://www.twitch.tv/4cejkee/b/327466796

<< Comment #436 @ 06:24 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Akuma - Reply to #365

True.

They needed a tournement to bring in viewers for zenimax and sponsors, and QL is the only decent game they have.
There was no choice. Shame :/

Edited by Akuma at 06:27 CDT, 5 August 2012

<< Comment #367 @ 23:20 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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DizzyMage

zero4 got 6th place...

<< Comment #377 @ 00:10 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (68.47.191.235)

Sorry, but Dahang is a notorious choker. Has nothing to do with talent, he can play, but he needs to get his head together.

<< Comment #381 @ 00:49 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Bono - Reply to #377

dahang has played 8000 duels with maybe 5000 of them being vs dkt and chance. gl ever winning a tourney playing vs the same 2 styles for 4 years

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<< Comment #368 @ 23:27 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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ZeriouS

wooohoo - QL . QuickDraw1 vs QuickDraw2 on Hektik :!

<< Comment #369 @ 23:30 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Derb_

Rapha wojuld've destroyed Cypher. that mental experience is so important.

<< Comment #371 @ 23:34 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #369

yeah right, he couldn't even destroy dahang. get your facts straight...

<< Comment #372 @ 23:35 CDT, 4 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore - Reply to #371

Not to mention Cypher has more lan experience than Rapha.

<< Comment #516 @ 14:07 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (68.47.191.235) - Reply to #372

Except cypher is known for being nervous on stage while Rapha is the most mistake-free player in Quake Live (more so than esreality God cooller)

<< Comment #378 @ 00:25 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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bl4ze

ow fuck I missed all of day 3 finals!
shit
VOD plz VOD aaaaaaaaaarghhh :(((

<< Comment #425 @ 05:49 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #378

http://esreality.com/post/2304185/re-quakecon-day-3/#pid2304134

<< Comment #536 @ 23:24 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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bl4ze - Reply to #425

Thank you so much! =)

<< Comment #379 @ 00:27 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y

<< Comment #383 @ 01:05 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Putton - Reply to #379

dayum now that was hawt >;D instead of brining us this pointless american styled promo crap, give us some professional coverage. can't believe first wcg dies (which was quite obv with quake) but now quakecon totally fucks up himself. i can't even laugh about the american crowd anymore, it's just sad :(

<< Comment #385 @ 01:15 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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sleepii - Reply to #379

wait so the hype video came out after the tournament is over? i also only recognized a few of those faces, potato head being one.

<< Comment #496 @ 11:23 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #385

i think they created it for showing in the stream.

<< Comment #398 @ 02:48 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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tony - Reply to #379

memento mori :D

<< Comment #444 @ 06:55 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #379

haha memento :D

<< Comment #380 @ 00:33 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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bl4ze

ow man looking at all the comments, must've been pretty epic final
can't believed I missed all of it
fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu
:(((((

<< Comment #384 @ 01:12 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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JDMYO

There's half of the first map of the final - ZTN Dahang vs Cypher on Youtube right now :)

<< Comment #387 @ 01:21 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Jude - Reply to #384

game1

<< Comment #391 @ 01:40 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore - Reply to #384

Footage from the finals on youtube?

Obviously not by id....

<< Comment #390 @ 01:40 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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simonov

also, only 2000 viewers for the final.

any ordinary zotac >>> quakecon 2012

<< Comment #466 @ 08:57 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #390

as good as zotac was, you can't beat lan + eu vs us :)

<< Comment #393 @ 02:01 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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simonov

http://ru.twitch.tv/4cejkee/b/327466796
russian restream by 4ce. the only thing we have as vods.

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<< Comment #402 @ 03:52 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #393

Thanks at least I get to see the matches - but just goes to show how useless this coverage has been that we have to rely on our russian friends to provide "vods".

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<< Comment #394 @ 02:07 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Legless

Some final VODS will be available here: http://www.youtube.com/user/neoQLive/videos

Edited by Legless at 02:32 CDT, 5 August 2012

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<< Comment #401 @ 03:15 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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ischju - Reply to #394

where is the rest :p

<< Comment #412 @ 05:11 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #394

Please upload maps 1-3 :X

<< Comment #418 @ 05:16 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Legless - Reply to #412

This is not my channel.
This guy have slow internet.

<< Comment #545 @ 04:54 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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Putton - Reply to #394

thanks bro ;)

<< Comment #417 @ 05:15 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (98.192.167.0)

Aerowalk vod
Please

<< Comment #396 @ 02:34 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Bono

this might be the some of the worst choking ive ever seen http://ru.twitch.tv/4cejkee/b/327466796 check 43.40 get that easy kill and u win quakecon ....i dont even like wt

<< Comment #404 @ 03:57 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #396

Fantastic rockets by Cypher on Aerowalk... A frag movie all on one map :D

<< Comment #420 @ 05:31 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Bono - Reply to #404

that rocket to take the lead on aero was epic

<< Comment #410 @ 04:31 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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sleepii - Reply to #396

cypher also pulled something like that vs rapha in the IEM 4 world finals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7LxhH8INtM&am...age#t=330s

its not choking, its cypher being cypher. obviously in that clip cypher had way more health/armor (and yeah mb dahang choked really badly, but still, not that surprised)

<< Comment #504 @ 12:02 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #410

a 10min break after t7 and maybe dm13 wouldn't have been so one-sided...strange how they played everymap with only 10s delay apart

<< Comment #664 @ 03:46 CDT, 21 August 2012 >>

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Bono - Reply to #410

about the key moment vs cypher in final. should have done a little rocket jump through the yellow armor doorway to avoid cyphers rockets and to get to the left side of the pillars so cypher cant use that postional advance behind the pillar and lg him to death

Edited by Bono at 03:49 CDT, 21 August 2012

<< Comment #399 @ 02:54 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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ischju

only english re-stream, anyone?

<< Comment #400 @ 03:11 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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dem0n

I need vodz

<< Comment #415 @ 05:15 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (124.185.166.26)

great grand final except for game 5.

i think if the tournament wasnt so fucked up and dahang had some time to cool down for the final map it would have been a lot closer.

it seemed like his brain was in map 4.

overall, fuck you quakecon.

unsubbed from ql

<< Comment #405 @ 04:04 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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SwarmDMX

Synopsis: Dahang is a beast in control, so is Cypher. Difference is Cypher can play incredibly well out of control and has the nerves of steel that win matches like that.

WP Cypher \o/

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<< Comment #409 @ 04:28 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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drink.more

Great game by cypher and dahang, one of the best quake you can see(but not cuz of id or cuz of qcon staff) GGG!!
PS. just cancel doom4 and ql and invest everything in that banana game id ;)))))))))))))))))

<< Comment #414 @ 05:15 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Your Eliteness

Epic final up until dm13. I think dahangs head went went after he lost t7, a game he should have won. there was a key moment in that game when he had cypher down down to 40hp in the rg room nd decided to leave the room instead of moving in for da kill, he lacked the courage in that crucial moment, if that was cypher he would hav got the kill. He was also in control for the majority of the game but didnt get the crucial frags. What can you say about Cypher! Whats amazing is when hes staring down the barrel of defeat he starts playing better, those rockets on aerowalk were fukin INSANE nd he pulls off the craziest shit when it really matters in games. I feel sorry for dahang but CYPHER IM COVINCED IS QUAKE GOD! ALL HAIL CYPHER!

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<< Comment #421 @ 05:33 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #414

that's what happens when you corner a beast ;)

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<< Comment #411 @ 04:54 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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hitsu

so qcon 2012 have ended? must have been great tourney, i didnt give a fuck about it :-)

ID y u so great?

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<< Comment #429 @ 06:10 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #411

lol me too

first lan I didn't watch after years

<< Comment #434 @ 06:19 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #429

one map pack combined with shootmania money and the game became shit :D how strange...

u still paly paly?

<< Comment #413 @ 05:15 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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xou

Totally felt asleep during the CTF final and missed the Duel final

<< Comment #477 @ 09:42 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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higgs - Reply to #413

lol same.. well i woke up right before t7 OT

<< Comment #419 @ 05:29 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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jacksonpark

Thank Intel :)

<< Comment #422 @ 05:36 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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u3a6

cypher's playstyle is impossible to mimic.

<< Comment #426 @ 05:52 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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lewl

nice ending for the finals. todd with the tickets :)))

<< Comment #427 @ 05:55 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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JDMYO

Awesome final! :) Anyone steal configs?! :o

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #427

If vods are proving too difficult for the organisers, I suspect we may never see the configs... We can hope tho.

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jetro - Reply to #427

Judging by the shitload of configs they managed to get last year, you're safe.

Edited by jetro at 06:47 CDT, 5 August 2012

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Yellack

I feel sad for DaHang.
Beating Rapha and strong beginning vs Cypher and still no title :/

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xoji - Reply to #428

I haven't seen the final yet but this is how I predicted it would go down.

Just wish they would hurry up with the VODs. Americans complained that they had to do the same for IEM and DH, the difference is the VODs were immediately available as soon as the game ended. Not mailed to the head office of id software and disappeared into the abyss.

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dru1d - Reply to #430

http://www.youtube.com/user/neoQLive

I don't know who this guy is but he's kindly uploaded the vods to youtube.

Don't rely on the cowboys at quakecon for ever providing vods, demos, cfgs or anything.

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<< Comment #442 @ 06:36 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #435

Awesome!
Community has to fix as usual :>

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nemecel - Reply to #435

I love how they make ztn premium and they are unable to fix the bug that shows the wrong player name when following him still to this day.

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Akuma - Reply to #428

I was just about to post the same.
He did well :)

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #428

Nevermind - he played well and was entertaining to watch. And post match photos suggest he may have gained some more fans:

Edited by SwarmDMX at 06:32 CDT, 5 August 2012

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Anonymous (90.44.47.189) - Reply to #428

i think he got trolled by Cypher tbh, like Cypher was baiting on 2-3 for some bigger cash??))

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rareh

Dahang had that game won on t7 :/
Was rooting for him, prefer his smart style, rather then the no brain, all aim from cypher.

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #439

lol @ no brain Cypher:]

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<< Comment #472 @ 09:15 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #439

no brain? holding 3:3 for some 8minutes or so vs a dahang in control is no brain?

daymn boi, u must be crazy

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<< Comment #514 @ 13:51 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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rareh - Reply to #472

Its called aim.

Look at the accuracies for dahang compared to cypher. Props to dahang for completely outsmarting a no brain player.

Edited by rareh at 13:58 CDT, 5 August 2012

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Glot - Reply to #514

so...what's so special about outsmarting a no-brainer. (oh, i mean COMPLETELY outsmarting a no-brainer. ) not that much of a challenge imo

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r1ddler - Reply to #514

dahang was spamming..even spamming rails..ofc he had low acc

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Anonymous (68.47.191.235) - Reply to #532

to be fair I think on most of the close maps Dahang had best item control

I feel bad for Dahang because you want to see him win something

Avek won, K1llsen won, rapha, cypher

Even cooller won a LAN

But not dahang

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Ffleri - Reply to #588

"even cooller"... lol
it's like in first place cooller, not even cooller, wtf man... :D

Edited by Ffleri at 10:12 CDT, 15 August 2012

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Raist - Reply to #439

yeah totally no brain....

hahahahahaha

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Anonymous (94.224.101.121) - Reply to #439

If you want to play a game where aim is not important, go play chess.

<< Comment #441 @ 06:33 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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ipx!

Such an epic comeback, this is why I love watching Cypher.

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johnny83

On the russian stream after 143 Zotac Cypher said that strenx kicks him and Avek from millenium shootmania team

http://www.esl.eu/eu/shootmania/open_gamescom...m/7045294/

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Ffleri - Reply to #447

if true then i suppose they both were making too much fun of strenx on ts and he raged. :D

Edited by Ffleri at 07:31 CDT, 5 August 2012

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #450

oh that Strenx:] such a class act:]

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #447

Strenx? Who's that?

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<< Comment #449 @ 07:21 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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kk-super_koziol.pl

mmm yes... Cypher trolling well on Aero... APPROVED

edit: shit. I just watched t7. Cypher had NOTHING. unbelievable

Edited by super_koziol at 08:37 CDT, 5 August 2012

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scowl

Does *anybody* care about the CTF tournament?

edit: I don't even know who won. Was it a close match? Are there any VODs?

Edited by scowl at 07:45 CDT, 5 August 2012

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dru1d - Reply to #453

yes, no and no

Edited by dru1d at 07:51 CDT, 5 August 2012

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madbringer

Amazing finals.

I'm glad something good was salvaged from this trainwreck, thanks to the players, casters and surprisingly animated audience. I'd also like to thank the gentlemen (had to watch 3rd map from Russian vod c:) who uploaded the final games to youtube, i wasn't able to watch the games live and with no vods in sight, i'd miss one of the greatest finals in the history of QL.

I'd end this on a positive note about learning from mistakes for future years and shit like that but... yeah.

Edited by madbringer at 07:55 CDT, 5 August 2012

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madbringer - Reply to #457

In Dahang's defence over his dm13 implosion, i think everyone who played duel knows how deceptive aggression is on that map. You think you have the guy low, so you throw yourself in, and you lose a frag, and another, and another, and another, and he never seems to go down, and it's SO FUCKING FRUSTRATING. A player as experienced as him should have known better, but what can ya do. He still delivered, imo. Beating Rapha, pushing Cypher to his absolute limits. He deserves props for this.

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<< Comment #459 @ 08:14 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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nemecel

Wheres the award ceremony? I wanna see the girls

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madbringer

http://tinyurl.com/9nnnr9v

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<< Comment #487 @ 11:10 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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TnG_Magick

GG :)

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Le0

Wow, Dahang was scary this tournament.
But Cypher just pulled off a Cypher.

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YoJJi

CFGs plzz ???

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ggnore

Awesome final glad Cypher won! Bringing the gold home for the Euros :D nice to see from all the Rapha wins.

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dru1d

and not a single fuck was given that day.

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Edited by dru1d at 11:26 CDT, 5 August 2012

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xou - Reply to #471

2mb gifs ?
no way.

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dru1d - Reply to #490

worth a try :P

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nex1 :

As usual, the pro players are the ones keeping alive the game.... Now, after all you read, go watch how Cypha got treated in 2008....

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/18090-QuakeC...a_matters/

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<< Comment #530 @ 17:30 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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2pak - Reply to #473

oh god... what a disgrace.

"zero4 and who else?" "cypher" "cypher, that's right"
"zero4 when did you win? 1995?"

wtf.

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nex1 :

So, what happened? Every time i tryed to connect there was nothing to watch.... I've just searched demos, and there are not even the last zotac's ones.....

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weltschmerz

Guess sum ppl weren't exactly happy with the title not staying in usofa given the little euro attendance. Next time better send cypher his paycheck in advance and ask him to stay home ... (if there is a next time anyway)

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r1ddler - Reply to #478

best part was when disrepute declared that this now makes chyper the best ever...jahar and crowd went silent. :))

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weltschmerz - Reply to #484

Ignoring accumulated wins and prize money for the moment, I'd rate cypher higher than rapha anyway. With rapha in his best moments, anything he does appears to be driven by the sole wish to win. While cypher seems to maintain a certain sense for playfulness and artistry even in the most fierce finals.

Might be not as effective given the goal, but it sure is most awesomest to watch.

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r1ddler - Reply to #502

well said good sir

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Anonymous (209.119.226.66) - Reply to #484

that's dumb. if cypher beat rapha I might have agreed but Dahang basically choked away a finals that he should have won

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r1ddler - Reply to #563

i commented on the awkward moment not the what he said

I still think that ql is more suited to Rapha playing style and is probably better overall.

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Venser

Great finals. In the end I'm glad it wasn't Cypher Rapha.

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SwarmDMX

Just like to say thanks and well done to the casters zoot, Jehar, Disrepute and Fear.

Under the circumstances I think they did a great job - especially when casting the demos (they must have known the results of each match even if just by the number of demos) they still made it feel like it was just happening :D I don't think any of them were very happy with the setup, but they carried on like pros and provided some great casting!

Well done guys.

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Fulgore - Reply to #483

??

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #491

I'm not being sarcastic - I don't think any of the cockups were their fault. We all know that both LevelUp and QuakeliveTV are able to stream and cast competitions in an organised and competent way, yet every year it's a complete farce at QuakeCon. Conclusion: It's the QuakeCon organisers that are complete f*ckwits and the casters just try to make it work. Given that - I think they did a good job.

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Fulgore - Reply to #500

I just didn't understand the part about casting from demos...

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #506

http://www.esreality.com/post/2302427/quakecon-day-2/#pid2302650

<< Comment #489 @ 11:12 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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megaman3

is there a list of QL LAN winners? I think cypher might have surpassed rapha

<< Comment #493 @ 11:20 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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xou - Reply to #489

PYTON got one :)

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art-hoshi - Reply to #489

http://www.foresightgaming.net/results-2011.php

Not 100% complete ... but might be a start :-)

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vxd - Reply to #495

You can fill 2008 - Quakecon for Cypher :p

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xou - Reply to #495

Alexey Yanushevsky aka Cypher (Belarus)

5 - ASUS Winter 2006 - 2006-02-05 (5000 RUB)
1 - GigaGames 2006 - 2006-04-30 (1000 USD)
2 - ESWC 2006 Finals - 2006-07-02 (9000 USD)
5 - QuakeCon 2006 Deathmatch Championship - 2006-08-06 (2000 USD)
2 - ASUS Summer 2006 Q3 - 2006-08-27 (17000 RUB)
1 - ASUS Summer 2006 Q4 - 2006-08-27 (23000 RUB)
5 - WCG 2006 Quake 4 All Stars - 2006-10-20
1 - ASUS Autumn 2006 - 2006-11-26 (32000 RUB + Logitech Hardware)
5 - i30 Quake 4 - 2007-04-08 (600 USD)
5 - ASUS Spring 2007 - 2007-05-27 (2500 RUB)
3 - WSVG Louisville 2007 - 2007-06-25 (2100 USD + $1,000 travel)
2 - WSVG Dallas 2007 - 2007-07-08 (3000 USD + Ticket to Finals)
3 - i32 Quake 4 - 2007-11-11 (2500 USD)
2 - ASUS Autumn 2007 - 2007-11-25 (10000 RUB)
1 - ASUS Winter 2008 - 2008-02-24 (20000 RUB)
4 - ASUS Spring 2008 - 2008-05-17 (4000 RUB)
1 - ESWC 2008 Masters of Paris - 2008-07-06 (2500 USD + Qualification to ESWC 2008 Finals)
1 - QuakeCon 2008 Championship - 2008-08-03 (5000 USD)
1 - ESWC 2008 Finals - 2008-08-26 (12000 USD)
4 - ESWC 2009 Masters of Athens - 2008-10-18 (1000 USD)
1 - ASUS Autumn 2008 - 2008-11-16 (10000 RUB)
3 - ASUS Spring 2009 - 2009-05-31 (4000 RUB)
1 - ESL Major Series IV - 2009-07-08 (450 EUR)
3 - QuakeCon 2009 Intel Masters Championship - 2009-08-15 (4000 USD)
1 - ASUS Summer 2009 - 2009-08-29 (20000 RUB)
2 - IEM4 Global Challenge Dubai - 2009-10-19 (1500 USD)
1 - ASUS Autumn 2009 - 2009-11-22 (7000 RUB + ASUS Eee PC 1008HA)
5 - DreamHack Winter 2009 - 2009-11-27
1 - IEM4 European Championship Finals - 2010-01-24 (3500 USD)
1 - ASUS Winter 2010 - 2010-02-23 (20000 RUB)
4 - IEM4 World Championship Finals - 2010-03-06 (800 USD)
1 - ASUS Spring 2010 - 2010-05-23 (10000 RUB)
2 - DreamHack Summer 2010 - 2010-06-21 (15000 SEK)
5 - ESWC 2010 Finals - 2010-07-04
1 - QuakeCon 2010 Intel Masters Championship - 2010-08-14 (14000 USD)
1 - ASUS Summer 2010 - 2010-08-29 (50000 RUB)
2 - FnaticMSI BEAT IT Finals - 2010-11-26 (3000 USD)
1 - DreamHack Winter 2010 - 2010-11-27 (45000 SEK)
1 - ASUS Autumn 2010 - 2010-11-28 (20000 RUB)
4 - IEM5 European Championship Finals - 2011-01-23 (750 USD)
4 - ASUS Winter 2011 - 2011-02-19
7 - IEM5 World Championship Finals - 2011-03-05 (400 USD)
1 - UGC 2011 - 2011-04-03 (3100 USD)
1 - ASUS Spring 2011 - 2011-05-28 (40000 RUB)
1 - DreamHack Summer 2011 - 2011-06-19 (25000 SEK)
1 - eSport Universe 2011 - 2011-07-03 (22000 RUB)
2 - ASUS Summer 2011 - 2011-07-30 (4000 RUB)
9 - QuakeCon 2011 Duel Invitational Masters - 2011-08-07
1 - DreamHack Winter 2011 - 2011-11-26 (30000 SEK)

Shane Hendrixson aka rapha (USA)

17 - QuakeCon 2006 Deathmatch Championship - 2006-08-06
9 - CPL Finals 2006 - 2006-12-20 (750 USD)
9 - ESWC 2008 Masters of Paris - 2008-07-06
4 - QuakeCon 2008 Championship - 2008-08-03 (500 USD)
3 - ESWC 2008 Finals - 2008-08-26 (4000 USD)
1 - ESWC 2009 Masters of Athens - 2008-10-18 (7500 USD + Qualification to ESWC 2009 Finals)
1 - Alienware Arena 2009 PC Gaming Season Open Midwestern Division - 2009-06-27 (500 USD)
1 - QuakeCon 2009 Intel Masters Championship - 2009-08-15 (14000 USD)
1 - IEM4 Cologne Pro/Am Challenge - 2009-08-22 (1000 USD)
1 - IEM4 Global Challenge Dubai - 2009-10-19 (3000 USD)
2 - IEM4 American Championship Finals - 2009-12-13 (1500 USD)
1 - IEM4 World Championship Finals - 2010-03-06 (10000 USD)
1 - EG Master's Cup Series #1 - 2010-06-15 (2000 USD + MSI GT660 Notebook)
1 - ESWC 2010 Finals - 2010-07-04 (8000 USD)
5 - QuakeCon 2010 Intel Masters Championship - 2010-08-14
2 - IEM5 Global Challenge Gamescom - 2010-08-22 (1700 USD)
3 - ASUS Summer 2010 - 2010-08-29 (15000 RUB)
1 - IEM5 American Championship Finals - 2010-10-10 (3000 USD)
1 - FnaticMSI BEAT IT Finals - 2010-11-26 (6000 USD + MSI GT663)
5 - DreamHack Winter 2010 - 2010-11-27
1 - IEM5 World Championship Finals - 2011-03-05 (8500 USD)
2 - UGC 2011 - 2011-04-03 (1600 USD)
2 - DreamHack Summer 2011 - 2011-06-19 (10000 SEK)
1 - QuakeCon 2011 Duel Invitational Masters - 2011-08-07 (8000 USD)
2 - DreamHack Winter 2011 - 2011-11-26 (15000 SEK)

kinda stopped tracking after DHW11

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Badb0y - Reply to #508

ok cypher got quake 4 and quake 3 vq3 in it.

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rareh - Reply to #508

Stopped reading at some asus cup.

For Quake live the only really big and serious tournament was
IEM WC and rapha won both.(Also note he didn't get the sens bug on them)

If you want to add minor tournaments add zotac, hell they were harder then most of those and strenx would have won with a huge list.

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xou - Reply to #517

"stopped"

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megaman3 - Reply to #517

rofl

every "international" LAN counts

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Anonymous (68.47.191.235) - Reply to #525

nobody was at the ASUS cups besdies cypher, cooller, and who else? agent? lol

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megaman3 - Reply to #533

Those don't count because they weren't "international". Not gonna bother putting rules to that because it's quite obvious which do and which don't.

For example 2 players invitationals (fatality counts them but whatever) and Aussie lans don't but IEM European/USA finals do, and Asus cups would if killsen, strenx, stermy, etc. attended, which isn't the case so are discarded.

Edited by megaman3 at 23:36 CDT, 5 August 2012

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lewl - Reply to #533

Shane Hendrixson aka rapha (USA)

3 - ASUS Summer 2010 - 2010-08-29 (15000 RUB)

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<< Comment #553 @ 08:17 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #542

Then they do count. Have a [+]

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nex1 : - Reply to #517

"If you want to add minor tournaments add zotac, hell they were harder then most of those and strenx would have won with a huge list."

You "forgot" to mention that when Cypher signed up to zotacs, strenxie rarely won, so if Cypher would have been less lazy, that record would be his.
Also, it's important to point out that Dahang but mostly Rapha couldn't sign up to zotacs cup due to the implayable pings deriving from connecting from America.
That's the reason Rapha have never won a single zotac, if i'm not wrong.
But anyway, a lot of high pros rarely signed up, peoples like av3k, k1llsen, cooller, stermy, etc. etc. .

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #550

Zotac is an online cup so it shouldn't really count - the level playing field (ping etc) and pressure of a LAN is what counts really. The fact that strenx could win all those zotacz but zero, nada, null, zilch LANs shows that its not the same thing at all. For example Dahang has beaten rapha in online cups and in general online matches, but the fact that he's beaten him at a competitive LAN means alot more and people are raising eyebrowes...

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Mattc0m - Reply to #552

in strenx's defense, he played very well at quakecon last year. but yeah, the lack of first place finishes in lan play is a bit disappointing.

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Lave - Reply to #489

we can start one!

i begin:

strenx 0

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<< Comment #503 @ 11:57 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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ischju

that t7 was just awesome. cypher also hit insane rockets on aerowalk everytime... u jump ra, i facial you. gg

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Raist

dahang looked unbeatable in first 2 maps, upto second half of 2nd one, but he had enough of a lead.

especially on ztn, cypher did everything right and hit every shot to make a comeback but dahang kept his cool, both players played the map by the book really, was a matter about who got control first.

sad about dm13, if dahang could have gotten a few mins rest to gather his thoughts back in line after that moral blow on t7, we might have seen a better last map.

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Lorfa ' - Reply to #511

if dahang could have gotten a few mins rest to gather his thoughts back in line after that moral blow on t7, we might have seen a better last map.

I agree. I think he should have taken a couple minutes to take a deep breath and reset his frame of mind.

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evoke

How the fuck are there know VoDs? Is this a fucking joke or what?

Edited by evoke at 14:34 CDT, 5 August 2012

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u3a6 - Reply to #520

http://www.youtube.com/user/neoQLive

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13m3 - Reply to #520

*know

<< Comment #529 @ 17:24 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (2.99.27.109)

Pro user here cancelling his subscription.

<< Comment #531 @ 17:35 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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dru1d

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<< Comment #535 @ 23:08 CDT, 5 August 2012 >>

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stunt.us

quakecon was fun being there.

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br1ck - Reply to #535

i agree fattttttty

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stunt.us - Reply to #540

ive slimmed down since qcon

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wicked5 - Reply to #556

Sexiest mofo ever

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stunt.us - Reply to #572

dat wicked guy omfg. boner!

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wicked5 - Reply to #577

Slapdick bro?

<< Comment #539 @ 03:07 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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dem0n

comon this must be a joke, where are the vods ?

<< Comment #541 @ 04:11 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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Nico_QD - Reply to #539

its quakecon, dem0n, it happens every year - no normal livestream, no demos, no vods, waiting about 2-4 weeks for this staff... ((

<< Comment #543 @ 04:41 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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jetro - Reply to #539

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1FC4A...ature=plcp

<< Comment #544 @ 04:46 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #543

but that's the russian vod right ?

If that's the case I think I'll pass :)

<< Comment #546 @ 05:08 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #544

nope, that's the quakecon stream... 5mins of the first map missing tho.

<< Comment #549 @ 06:34 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #546

and masters tournament grand final only

<< Comment #558 @ 12:03 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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limity - Reply to #544

dude i dont understand russian comentry but i more enjoy than other couse of emotions :))

<< Comment #569 @ 16:17 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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gienon - Reply to #544

In its overwhelming entirety do I feel your pain of playing one clip, rewinding it a minute forward and finding out for yourself.

<< Comment #570 @ 16:46 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #569

sry no like spoilers

<< Comment #557 @ 11:51 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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Carsomyr

Am I naive hoping for demos being uploaded this week?

<< Comment #559 @ 12:14 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #557

you'd still be naive had you said this month.

Edited by dem0n at 12:14 CDT, 6 August 2012

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dru1d - Reply to #559

you'd still be naive had you said this ~~month~~ year.

fixed.

Edited by dru1d at 12:28 CDT, 6 August 2012

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megaman3 - Reply to #560

you'd still be naive had you said this ~~year~~ decade.

fixed.

Edited by megaman3 at 12:38 CDT, 6 August 2012

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<< Comment #564 @ 14:33 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #561

You all are naive to think they will upload them at all.
fixed.

<< Comment #576 @ 20:40 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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aeoL - Reply to #564

You are naive to think they wouldn't upload them at all.
fixed.

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calleking - Reply to #576

no u

fixed.

<< Comment #623 @ 19:32 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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pernix - Reply to #576

They haven't been uploaded yet, have they?

<< Comment #625 @ 20:02 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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aeoL - Reply to #623

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1FC4A...ature=plcp

czm uploaded his demos, http://www.qldemos.com/

<< Comment #566 @ 15:23 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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ultra

Another year, another QuakeCon, yet more god awful coverage. It seriously has to be a fucking joke that no vods exist. iD can;t oragnise shit - no wonder QuakeLive is in the sorry state it is.

<< Comment #567 @ 15:49 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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dbflpZ - Reply to #566

wow you know exactly what youre talking about!! quakelive's "state" has nothing to do with hackers like you!! :DDDDDD

<< Comment #573 @ 17:49 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #567

why dont you dblflip into a fucking pile of dogshit, you stupid faggot

<< Comment #612 @ 16:42 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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ultra - Reply to #567

Americans * rolleyes *

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dbflpZ - Reply to #612

unless youre a diff ultra than the one that got banned for hacking in america. and judging by your comment it looks like youre not from america. so i retract my last statement :>

<< Comment #571 @ 16:49 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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Ziel

So...what mouse is cypher using now?
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8421/7718547016_f5eac07926_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8291/7718621312_910b0bdf5e_o.jpg

I only ask cause it looks like the mouse wheel is lit blue in the first picture. The shape still looks the same as the Abyssus though.

EDIT: still the abyssus, someone from qcon confirmed it.

Edited by Ziel at 18:13 CDT, 6 August 2012

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dbflpZ - Reply to #571

hes still on the abyssus

<< Comment #575 @ 18:13 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #574

Yeah thanks. Just looks weird in the first picture I guess. :D

<< Comment #579 @ 23:50 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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Anonymous (90.44.47.189)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscree...JfMZcKNByc

the fuk :>

<< Comment #578 @ 23:44 CDT, 6 August 2012 >>

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w0nk0

lol just read this thread after leaving qcon. funny i wouldve been one of you guys busting qcon for its coverage. but oddly enough being there was a blast. :)

i have to say for the most part syncerror and the team that ran the actual tournaments did a great job. but the lack of streaming coverage was a little difficult to even believe at first. its weird that they would think people who pretty much only come on stream to watch the games would stick around for a fucking panel discussion (cant think of any other reason for not having alternative streams).

gonna be so sad if they dont upload vods of our ctf games.

Edited by w0nk0 at 23:44 CDT, 6 August 2012

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Mattc0m - Reply to #578

it was only the keynote that had the conflicting stream issue. we never planned on running 2 streams, but we were able to put together enough hardware to run 2 streams without issue by ctf day (friday) and finals (saturday).

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grimbar - Reply to #581

Evidently you never planned to pay any attention to the tournaments either, just like 2008.

<< Comment #584 @ 02:47 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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dbflpZ - Reply to #583

Actually that has been our only focus since 2009 (since we werent even there in 2008...). the fact that the stream went down was not our fault. we did our best to bring you as much coverage from our end and streaming the panels was a requirement of us. we pay attention to everything on our side of things, and what people cant seem to understand is that despite us being the ones brought in to do the coverage, there are still hundreds of people behind the scenes we have to work with. everything is affected by something/someone else.

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grimbar - Reply to #584

So what, streaming the panels was a requirement. What stopped you from arranging the games outside the panel times, and don't give me any of your bla bla. There was more than enough time to make sure things would work out without making yet another mockery of the competitive side of Quakecon.

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<< Comment #599 @ 13:25 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #585

because "they" don't determine the game times. streamers have little control over when the games are played. they can put in requests to the tournament organization team but there are lots of other factors involved.

im not trying to justify the lack of coverage. just that it isnt as simple as it seems. it should still be fixed imo, and there are really no excuses. but putting it all on qltv is a bit much.

ps: different for vods and shit. i wonder if id themselves are going to delay the vods or its some other issue.

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dbflpZ - Reply to #585

we did arrange coverage outside of tourney/streaming hours on day 1. since the stream went down, myself and zoot recorded demos of every single duel masters game and we played those back on stream and casted over them trying to bring you every game (actually more games) that u guys missed. we were up all night doing this and those games went our on stream that night, yes they were on much later but they still made it up there. and wonko is right. we have no control over what we are required to stream, we simply nod our heads and do what we are told to do since we dont run the show. and again, the stream troubles were not our fault but i would rather not get into that. we just hope that if u did not get to see the games streamed live that the VODs will be up soon enough so u can see how epic most of the games were.

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megaman3 - Reply to #584

you do realize quakecon is by far the worst covered gaming event of them all right. Not only in 2012 but 2011, 2010, 2009 and the rest too.

Our quakecon has always been dreamhack and we have 2 of them a year.

Edited by megaman3 at 08:32 CDT, 7 August 2012

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grimbar - Reply to #589

Well aware, it still baffles me how brain-damaged you have to be to pull yet another year of "that". This has to be intentional...

<< Comment #587 @ 06:37 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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Nico_QD - Reply to #581

where vods, matt? where demos?.

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<< Comment #647 @ 10:33 CDT, 8 August 2012 >>

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #581

how long does it take to set up a stream? even emergency one (keynote running over playoffs). also: where vods, demos and configs.

<< Comment #580 @ 00:10 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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13m3

another fucked up shit was:

dual masters CHAMPION = $ 9000
random dude who got his ticket picked up = brand new mustang, a lot more than $ 9000 worth

WHAT?!

<< Comment #586 @ 06:10 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore - Reply to #580

I think that random dude had to pay 50$ for a sit in BYOC, 50 x 1000+.... you get the picture

Not to mention its obvious id wants to get sponsorship money for anything even if it has nothing to do with Quake - otherwise why fucking advertise a free-to-play web browser game that can directly compete with Quake Live (Yes I'm talking about Banana Man).

<< Comment #593 @ 09:43 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #586

even if that mustag costs 10k $ its a retarded prize to give away :D

would love to see corvette as the grand prize , thatd be baller

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megaman3 - Reply to #593

Plastic car with fake vents and leaf springs. Undrivable in the city, absurdly expensive to maintain for what it is and everyone who owns a current one is a retard.

Literally a huge engine with good stock tires and somewhat good exterior looks (more like name recognition), while the rest is completely missing. Of course the more expensive versions are better, but they are rare and for the price in any segment you can get a miles better car.

Corvette driver:

High end BMW driver:

Edited by megaman3 at 16:34 CDT, 7 August 2012

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r1ddler - Reply to #596

ye the mustang is a boat on wheels...but the corvette tho..is fucking boss. As much as i want to say "meh plastic garbage , just buy euro" its really really good. ( if you don't mind the non-flashyness :PP )

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megaman3 - Reply to #608

I meant the opposite (don't like corvettes). Guess you can say the same about all american cars lol.

I haven't been on a new mustang once :/ (they look awesome from the outside), but when I lived in corvette-land I started not liking vettes.

If I were to buy one right now and somehow liked american cars I'd get a 2013 viper instead. That's sexy.

Edited by megaman3 at 16:57 CDT, 7 August 2012

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r1ddler - Reply to #611

haha, you also swapped images, you trixter ! :)

Ye, don't get me wrong, Mustang looks lovely, not to mention the old Mustangs, those things are pure Art.

Ye, must be the same reason i wouldn't buy a BMW, cause every douche i know has one here :)

fucking hell, even this convertible http://www.mustangdreams.com/66-convertible-black.jpg just screams evil and badassery :p

<< Comment #621 @ 18:34 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #620

http://i.imgur.com/KmS3J.jpg

fuckmylife

<< Comment #628 @ 20:56 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #620

they approved the cooller photo first but in the douchebag part so I switched it over, and then had to do it again rofl

I have nothing against mustangs. My problem is with vettes (just like warsow)

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Jamerio : - Reply to #611

"Guess you can say the same about all american cars lol."

What the like the Corvette ZR1 that beat a GTR around the ring and out drags pretty much everything...

Lets have it right....you do not drive, you have never owned a decent car, you cant even afford to fill one with a tank of gas, you have never even driven a left hand drive in America.

You would not know a good car if one drove over your face, stopped and wheel spinned all that eastern european out of you, all you do is recycle shit you read on youtube with the most thumbs up and recycle it hoping it does the same for you.

You do not fool me asshole, I was driving cars quicker than ferraris when I was 20, I know a faker when I see one, and you is a fake.

Edited by Jamerio at 04:58 CDT, 8 August 2012

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megaman3 - Reply to #638

Who cares about a car going faster around the ring than other. Ownership and real life usage is what matters, nothing more.

You bought your first pc when you were more than 30 years old and said you underperformed in the only lan you ever attended because of having a faulty keyboard, which means you couldn't afford $10.
Also you got busted on the "personality disorders" thread. No one believes a word you say.

Not gonna discuss about cars with someone who repairs PCs for a living and that doesn't have a high school diploma. As the old saying goes, Jonesy is fat Jamerio is poor.

"You is a fake"

Edited by megaman3 at 08:27 CDT, 8 August 2012

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Jamerio : - Reply to #639

Your levels of misrepresenation are toxic.

I was early twenties when i bought my first pc , before then I used silicon graphics are work, so i did not need a shitty little dx2 66 like you.
you cant even talk about my age without adding 7 years on top of it!

Secondly, my keyboard was custom and broke at an event, being unable to replace it had nothing to do with money, thats just what your angst adds to it. As you can see I am kinda fussy about my equipment..

http://www.esreality.com/files/placeimages/20...yboard.jpg
http://www.esreality.com/files/placeimages/20...e-2005.gif

I do a lot more than repair computers for a living, but even if I was a brain surgeon, you would accuse me of washing clothes for a living if I said I washed my own clothes on the weekend.

Thats just how you are an I would not want you to change cos real life will take care of you far better than any words I can say.

<< Comment #641 @ 08:40 CDT, 8 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #640

not gonna fall in a discussion with someone unemployed who has all the time in the world to "win" an internet argument, so I'll just leave this here for people who haven't seen it.

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2204507

I don't know how you are still on this site after getting owned so much. Maybe it has to do with spending 10x more time here than anyone else and getting banned from shoryuken, the other forum you trolled in.

Edited by megaman3 at 08:41 CDT, 8 August 2012

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megaman3 - Reply to #641

rofl completely forgot about this
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&...pid2205157

That thread is pure gold.

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<< Comment #644 @ 09:03 CDT, 8 August 2012 >>

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wotan - Reply to #642

lol

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Jamerio : - Reply to #642

http://www.esreality.com/post/2305788/re-quak...pid2305788

Edited by Jamerio at 09:19 CDT, 8 August 2012

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Jamerio : - Reply to #641

Your levels of desperation are amazing.

Last post you said....

"Not gonna discuss about cars with someone who repairs PCs for a living"

Now, a few minutes later I am unemployed, you are just a bundle of emotions...

That thread proves nothing other than linking people to more retards like you, we can already see how you will say things to survive emotionally on a post by post basis that comes back to bite you ala this one, omg I got banned from an over sensitive game forum, most of whom I can wipe the floor with.

you tell yourself anything you need to get you through the day.
I win cos your points are so stupid and immature like you.

ALT+TABBING a few times per day has no impact on anything 8>

For someone who has said he is not going to fall into a discussion with me, it sounds better if your last 4 relies are not to me, 5 including the one you are probably gagging to make.

<< Comment #597 @ 11:06 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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Fulgore - Reply to #593

As a student, anything with 4 wheels that comes for free is good enough...

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13m3 - Reply to #586

I think that random dude had to pay 50$ for a sit in BYOC, 50 x 1000+.... you get the picture

doesn't matter, a champion deserves something like that much more than any random BYOC guy. In fact, the "right" thing to do would be to use "all that" byoc money you said to give the champion a really good prize, in this case that car, and the byoc guy $ 9000 maybe.

I mean, someone plays the game for years, wins a fucking hard championship (well not SO hard this time) and only gets "pennies"? While a BYOC guy... oh well I won't repeat it. The point is who REALLY struggles and sweats doesn't get very much in return.

But yeah I agree with you about sponsorship money, and that banana game, from what I could see looks mostly crap gameplay wise. "Pretty" graphics, customization of your character, but all you can really do to hit enemies is move a little, point and shot? No bunny hopping, no strafe jumping, very few weapons which are all hitscan... blah

<< Comment #603 @ 14:26 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #601

go tell cypher it wasn't hard lol

more than the t-bag game the thing is it was advertised constantly for the whole event while QL had absolutely nothing.

<< Comment #604 @ 14:43 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #603

Only the finals were hard, not a lot of games as in other tournaments...

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Fulgore - Reply to #601

First - since it's an international tournament, you can't give away a car as a prize, how will Cypher take a car to Belarus??

Second - the entire idea of giving away things to the audience should be looked from a strictly business point of view.
You (as a company) don't look at what's fair or not - you just do what is better for the company. If giving away cars gets more and more people each year to attend, go ahead do it (the car is sponsored any way so its free give away).

If each year id gives away cars to lets say top 3 places, the audience wouldn't really care - but if they give 3 cars to random audience members, you can bet people will want to come.

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13m3 - Reply to #605

since it's an international tournament, you can't give away a car as a prize, how will Cypher take a car to Belarus??

I know that, give a bigger money prize then.

I think that the winner getting a very big prize can attract a lot of people too. Maybe not as much, maybe even more, I don't know. My point isn't what the audience cares or not, but what's really fair.

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Fulgore - Reply to #607

But in business you don't think about fair - you think about profit.

Having more regular people coming means much more income from tickets.

Bigger prize money might attract more people but I think only if it's much bigger, few grand here and there don't count much.

As for giving cars - again not from id's pocket - its sponsored so who can complain about that.
They can't go to Ford and tell them "you know what? instead of the car give me 50,000 which half of it we'll give to first place duel champ".

But, like you said, it feels unfair. And while I talked about the business aspect of the event, I do agree that the company that made Quake should support it more than DreamHack or Zotac and not support Banana game or other stupid shit that has nothing to do with the community.

Blizzard isn't perfect - but id could sure learn a lot from them.

They even cancelled their annual BlizzCon to work on upcoming titles - they actually think that pleasing few thousand people who do come to BlizzCon isn't as important as making hundreds of thousands happy (the entire community).

Not to mention Blizzard doing everything to promote it's games and making them a true eSport.

I watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04JvQIYslmc

WTF is he talking about? Does he even fucking know what's going on in eSports or just makes shit up for the camera??

"Competitors always tell us... from an eSport stand point, Quake Live is the GAME that they like to play. I think if you put it up to a vote - a lot of the players would love to Quake Live if they got the same attention from sponsorships and from publishers and from things like that."

LOL? attention from sponsors and publishers? how about attention from id software?!?

How about giving us the attention and not Banana shooter?
How about making the best stream possible so people could see how this game is played and want to join?
How about announcing all the Qcon details more than 2 weeks ahead so the same eSport players you're talking about would come?
How about making a simple ladder and match making system that is a standard in Blizzard games?

So you know what GzUz? You're right.
It's not unfair to Cypher or Dahang that they got that prize and not more. Its unfair to all of us that we get shit on and fucking lies instead of results and the support this game needs!

<< Comment #616 @ 17:01 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #615

I really liked the video :/, and he makes clear the reasons behind the latest update and why they chose not to sponsor tournaments.

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13m3 - Reply to #615

Well, that's true too...

<< Comment #610 @ 16:28 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #580

You do realize that the mustang is provided by Ventrilo, not id or Bethesda?

The tournament prize money comes from Intel and id. The mustang is not provided by either one.

EDIT: And Quakecon is free to attend. You do not have to pay any money to be in the BYOC.

Edited by Ziel at 16:29 CDT, 7 August 2012

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13m3 - Reply to #610

well yeah but, too bad they didn't give it for the winner of the QUAKE(con) tournament...

It's kinda sad, quakecon, which should be the best or one of the best quake tournaments, is actually the one where a lot of shit happens year after year. This time including streaming problems, top pro players not comming, still no vods, still no demos. And the other tournaments that hold quake, but are not quakecon, go very well, and don't give away prizes much more valuable than what the champion (and other top placers) gets.

<< Comment #591 @ 08:17 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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aeoL

Final match between cypher and dahang here http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1FC4A...ature=plcp

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<< Comment #594 @ 10:17 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

Cypher said on Dreamhack that he was going to win Quakecon and he did. Awesome.

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Lave - Reply to #594

+ he lost 2 maps, was down in score on the 3rd and after a "CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER" keybind he started a rapetrain.
moviestuff

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<< Comment #598 @ 12:50 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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I'll just leave this here ��___

19:26 SPARTSSON � Yeah, with an announcement 2 weeks before the tournament
19:26 SPARTSSON � Makes it easy to just go for fun
19:26 SPARTSSON � Cant plan anything
19:26 SPARTSSON � If I wanna go there for fun I wanna know that some people are at least going.
19:27 SPARTSSON � its not only about playing videogames
19:27 SPARTSSON � Over all the tournaments I went to, Quakecon was the one where I had the most fun
19:28 SPARTSSON � I really wanted to go this year. But, with that kind of late announcement it just makes it impossible for me to goar. But, with that kind of late announcement it just makes it impossible for me to go

Besides strenx swinging his baguette around in shootmania and av3k's visa issues... that might explain why Cypher and air raid were the only Europeans.

Pretty sad tbh. It's always nice to see more top players at a tournament like that. And judging by rapha's and Cypher's shape (even though he made a sick comeback) I feel like Cooller could have actually gotten away with 1st place this year.

Edited by jetro at 12:52 CDT, 7 August 2012

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<< Comment #602 @ 14:24 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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13m3

I want to see dahang vs rapha...

<< Comment #606 @ 15:11 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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Badb0y

where are the vods? the complete official ones.

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ultra - Reply to #606

They don't exist basically. Probably never will knwoing how unorganised everything is (yet again).

I'd expect them to plastered everywhere to be honest.

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dru1d

Next year if there is a tournament why not just let zoot take his laptop and stream all the games at levelup's twitch channel with disrepute. No need for this mattc0m cowboy, he can fuck about with the main stream all he wants, just stay away from the quakelive stream.

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<< Comment #614 @ 16:45 CDT, 7 August 2012 >>

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ultra - Reply to #609

* High Fives *

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Badb0y - Reply to #609

a bit harsh, but if a laptop doing the job why not.

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dru1d - Reply to #617

Well it doesn't have to be a laptop, just let the people who actually want to show and cast live games show them. I know that zoot would have loved to stream and cast every one of those games LIVE on day 1 but he wasn't allowed to or had no means of doing so. I don't mean to direct so much blame towards mattc0m, I don't fully know what his job is but I'm pretty sure he has alot to do, maybe too much which is why Quake Live gets neglected year after year. I know if level up was taking care of the QL stream, we would have vods, demos and cfgs by now. Or maybe it's just id software being retarded and refusing to allow vods and demos to be released until they get sent to the head office or some stupid bs like that. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Edited by dru1d at 17:21 CDT, 7 August 2012

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megaman3 - Reply to #618

only things we know is mattcom was in charge this year and in previous quakecons too. All of them failed due to management side decisions, so it's him we should direct our rage to.

Besides he got drunk at job (quakecon 2011) and still keeps it on 2012. Until I can do the same I'm going to keep whining.

Edited by megaman3 at 17:26 CDT, 7 August 2012

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dbflpZ - Reply to #619

lol. no need to rage at matt. he doesnt run qcon. i know u kids need someone to blame for the fact u couldnt see the games but its not ql.tv. now until the VODs are up just keep the rage to a minimum. we had to deal with these problems first-hand at the event. how do u think we feel about it?

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megaman3 - Reply to #624

how come dreamhack runs every event perfectly (with 2 a year) while there are major issues in quakecon since live coverage started?

for example, did you get the demos? cfgs? more than 5 player interviews?
I already know the answers, and those 3 have nothing to do with management or people blaming each other.

Or more importantly, it truly seems like you don't run a general test before the event. Otherwise there's no way a stream runs at 15fps instead of the promised 60, then say it isn't technically possible to run 2 streams (mattcom, day1 thread) but do it anyway in day2.

Edited by megaman3 at 21:02 CDT, 7 August 2012

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dbflpZ - Reply to #626

again. its not just ql.tv behind the scenes, there are hundreds of other people that all play a factor into what you guys see. there are demos and more than 5 interviews and those will be posted somewhere soon i would imagine. everything is tested beforehand but we cant plan for unforeseen issues. as far as the 2 stream situation, that is something beyond you that we cannot explain here.

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megaman3 - Reply to #629

will believe it when I see it. Still no demos of the best quake match ever played (cooller cypher 2010)

and this confirms you didn't get the cfgs?

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dbflpZ - Reply to #630

not myself personally. that had nothing to do with me so i wasnt concerned with that. this is a great time to explain and reiterate to you that the blame cannot be placed on 1 person or 1 small group of people :> patience my friend.

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scowl - Reply to #631

now until the VODs are up just keep the rage to a minimum.

there are demos and more than 5 interviews and those will be posted somewhere soon i would imagine.

there are hundreds of other people that all play a factor into what you guys see.

and reiterate to you that the blame cannot be placed on 1 person or 1 small group of people

What the fuck are you even trying to accomplish here?

No one needs vague promises of stuff that should have already been published days ago.

No one needs you to imply credit for what might eventually happen ("patience my friend") and then blaming all the failures on "hundreds of other people" who all hide behind each other so that none of them is responsible.

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dbflpZ - Reply to #646

im not hiding behind anyone. im saying that there is a bigger picture than you guys think. were just as upset as all of you about the stream, trust me. but VODs will be up soon. as far as cfg's qcon has never really posted those in the past or at least hasnt made them a priority so i dont see why its such a huge deal now. again, patience.

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scowl - Reply to #649

im not hiding behind anyone. im saying that there is a bigger picture than you guys think.

Meh, nobody cares about the pigger picture. More important is this attitude right here which shows why things aren't going to change:

as far as cfg's qcon has never really posted those in the past or at least hasnt made them a priority so i dont see why its such a huge deal now.

It's been a huge deal for years. Check every thread about QCon in the last couple of years and you'll see that people have been demanding configs in every single one of them. Are you seriously complaining about being reminded that you've been ignoring the wishes of the community for years?

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jetro - Reply to #630

Everything should be up in no time if you ask me. Since there are "hundreds of other people" who all do their very best. Then again, those "hundreds of other people" include guys like this:

Seriously, dafuq.

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Jamerio : - Reply to #635

Free + for the person who can say what distro of linux this guy reminded you of...

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jetro - Reply to #652

Ubuntu?

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kk-super_koziol.pl - Reply to #629

even if there are some behind scenes issues with releasing this stuff (though i can't see what these issues might be with demos and configs), even if the vods have to be checked for content before release, just TELL US THAT. Stream situation: inexcusable.

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Mattc0m - Reply to #619

Just be clear on a few things:

- VODs are being worked on (had to get a harddrive overnight shipped to me), will be uploaded ASAP. I'm working on a complete package that will have VODs, interviews, photos, and hopefully some other behind-the-scenes footage as well.

- I never drink on the job. There's a small party on Saturday night, during / after the finals, but that's it. I'm not really sure where this rumor started, but I kind it fairly hilarious in how its not based in any sort of truth.

- A laptop and a small crew cannot run a QuakeCon stream. It's difficult to explain in detail, but basically the setup is very complicated. It involves a full audio and visual mix, running audio/visual feeds to a separate A/V company, and ensuring everything is working on two live streams and being fed to the main stage on top of various recording and encoding tasks. Any professional production crew at the "big events" like Dreamhack and IEM are run by huge teams of people (much larger than ours) with a ton of resources (we have only limited). I will address this issue a bit later and in more detail, I am working on an ESR blog.

I really want to improve things every year, so if anyone has any complaints, I definitely want to put it all out on the table and address them as plainly as possible. I am not trying to have an attitude with anyone here at ESR, so I do want to apologize if I come off that way. Me and my "team of cowboys" are actually all fairly soft spoken, level-headed individuals who are just trying to do as best of a job with what we have.

Cheers,

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dru1d - Reply to #655

Dreamhack and IEM are run by huge teams of people (much larger than ours) with a ton of resources (we have only limited)

I believe Quakelive at dreamhack consisted of zoot, calipt and a couple of others maintaining the stream on one PC....

And don't like 7 people run dreamhack? plus volunteers of course.

Vods were available within an hour of the games finishing...

Edited by dru1d at 21:28 CDT, 9 August 2012

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Mattc0m - Reply to #656

Well that's the difference right there. We're not running coverage of a single game at a games tournament from a single PC, we're running coverage for an entire gaming event that requires 4-5 PC's at a minimum, with full-time audio mixing, video mixing, etc.

My comparison was to full-time production companies (like the main events at Dreamhack, MLG, IEM, etc.) to ours. We're expected to deliver big results in terms of productions with a very complicated setup, and yet we have nowhere the size of the team nor the resources to accomplish that. Each year we get a step closer and closer, though.

I not only completely respect levelup for what they do, but I envy them for the events they cover. QuakeCon is a lot different in terms of what goes on behind the scenes, and while I'm not saying our job is harder--it's far more complex to run.

Things were less-than-perfect this year, I acknowledge that completely, but there's a lot of assumptions being made about how running a stream off a single PC is comparable to the production at QuakeCon. There is a lot of huge, fundamental differences.

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dru1d - Reply to #660

It seems more complicated than it needs to be to be honest, at least the QuakeLive coverage side of things. I'm sure all the behind the scenes stuff is pretty complicated which is why you should concentrate on that because it's probably more than enough to deal with. QuakeLive is a burden to you, and it doesn't need to be on the big main QuakeCon stream anymore, except for the grand finals. I hope you understand the significance of day 1 when you were streaming John Carmack whilst almost the entire duel tournament was played.

All it takes to stream QuakeLive is PC, xsplit, a twitch/own3d account and a decent internet connection +casters. No matter which way you look at it, that IS all it takes. That's how it's done everywhere except QuakeCon, and QuakeCon is the only tournament that the coverage consistantly lets every QuakeLive viewer down year after year. Coincidence? Next year just put zoot and disrepute in a corner with a PC, as long as they're connected to QuakeCon's super amazing ultra fast internet, there won't be a problem. That frees up your time to sort out the main Quakecon stream. You're happy because you don't have to deal with us whiney fuckers, and we're happy because we get to watch some quake.

Edited by dru1d at 18:13 CDT, 10 August 2012

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supersonicwaffle - Reply to #655

Any professional production crew at the "big events" like Dreamhack and IEM are run by huge teams of people (much larger than ours) with a ton of resources (we have only limited).

Man I'd like to get to know the huge lvlup team that ran the Quake stream at Dreamhack the last couple years. I understand that you couldn't pony up the kind of resources they have though so you're 100% forgiven.

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aeoL

I just came to the realisation that Dahang looks like the Starcraft commentator Moletrap :/

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stunt.us

i saw some dude go around to every competitor pc and download cfg's + demos

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