who gives a fuck

inb4: you cared enough to comment

Anders Behring Breivik probably, she's stealing all the spotlight from the shit he did.

not really.. breivik is all over our news for a few days now.. i had to google what actually happened to amy winehouse when i got back from the weekend..

spoken like a true slummer. I hope for your sake, people are more kind in your death as you were to hers. But karma has a way of interrupting fate. I hope you can live with the consequences little man.

ppl who have taste in music.

naw, i dont, thanks

indeed.

Inevitable.

RIP Amy. U WILL BE 4EVER MISSED <3 :((

The sad thing is, her record producers will absolutely love this as it will result in higher music sales. They will have encouraged her to take drugs and probably even provided them to her.

The pictures of her at the very start of her career are that of a healthy young woman, then just getting worse and worse. Its happened countless times before and will happen again, and the record producers are more than happy to let it happen and actively encourage it. It's disgraceful.

Iirc the parents of the lead singer of Thin Lizzy successfully sued the bands producers as they were providing the coke to the band. It was part of the payment for each gig. Some money and some coke.

Of course, it is the individuals choice at the end of the day, but when you have all the people around you trying to get you onto the drugs in the first place, it certainly makes that 'choice' much easier.

And lives of that like Amy Winehouse's are the end result.

And the sad part of that is how small the music industry really is, they are literally doing this shit to fight over scraps. It's like the music industry demanding ISP's and search engines to give in to their demands. And they just turn around and go "Lol, no".

Oops I did it again :(
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1672336

Reminds me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2TDoGsA43Y&t=5m0s

the bit until 6:02

Ive watched do of his shows and i dont think i laughed once, i dont get the appeal of this guy

look at her as an example kids, drugs will kill you.

I wish stupidity killed

if stupidity killed there wouldn't be any stupid people, so the remaining people could be considered stupid as well, because of the standards, so if that happened there wouldn't be any people.

As long as it's a world without you, i'm fine with it.

i see you can't handle it.

you realize what you just wrote makes no sense whatsoever, right?

let me elaborate a little more. By your standards a people must match a certain criteria to be considered stupid, right? All people are different, so they have different ideas and standards, someone can be considered stupid by you, but not by me, take this as just an example not a fact. If all the people killed everyone that they considered stupid, everyone would kill each other, and if there was some people left, they probably would start thinking "oh, herp killed derp, that's stupid" and their view and criteria on stupid people would start to change too, because our brains seek for patterns and we would start finding people that we wouldn't consider stupid, stupid.
At the end of the day those guys would kill themselves too when they realized how stupid they were.

Don't be afraid.

your explanation is as stupid as defining stupidity as a purely social norm.

no, what defines stupidity is personal criteria, also you are not french.

im not making things as real as they are, just pushing it to the limits.

should have gone to rehab lol

omg you're like the 10th person today who stole my joke how did it spread so fast???????

omg why are we the best comedians ever?!!?!!

she did and its' called addiction. it's a disease. have some respect

Calling addiction a disease is basically taking a dump on the face of everyone who is actually sick. How about you show the people who can't just quit their disease some respect.

would + you twice. Raytheshit is fucking stupid

Using things which can lead to a life-crippling addiction is stupid in the first place, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a disease.

It is nice that many of you see it appropriate to mock and speak foul of the dead, never mind though.. absolutely no one will give a shit when it's your turn to die (:

Bitter much?

you feel superior don't you?

I don't even know who that Amy was, so I don't care. I can joke about it, why not?
When I will die, it won't bother you too. It's normal. It would be un-normal if you actually cared about my death, you would be acting like a moron then.
Death does not deserve any special respect. It's like if someone stole my car, it would matter only for me and maybe for some of my friends. It's not global event that shatters whole world, it's just a disruption in certain closed communities and does not affect anything further than that. Those communities care, anyone else does not (and should not!).

It isn't about whether you care or not, I just figured people would know when to show respect , how can death not deserve special respect? Have you ever mourned - it doesn't matter if only a handful knew the person you mourned, would you appreciate it if someone mocked them? Is them not knowing the person you mourn by any means humanely a justifiable excuse?

Just like when a hearse drives through the street one would take their hat off (if you had one) and show acknowledgement for their loss, not point at the hearse, make a joke and laugh, surely..?

Then again someone who compares death to car theft, not sure why I am even replying..

and FYI if a celebrities car was stolen, it most likely would be reported on the news - just how it is.

edit: typo

You get respect for doing something extra. Dying doesn't count in my book.

I don't expect other people to mourn with me either.

Welcome to the internet.

:/

no welcome to this fucked up community full of 11 year olds. I don't see this shit at this level in other games.

Adrenal1ne is the poster child for the player pushing noobs out of the game. And let's see who he has as friends... oh ya

1. incubus
2. mrgreen_
3. syncerror
4. tucker

ya no surprise. Don't understimate the associations of these players. Just as in society, people hang out with others who act and think like them.

that made me lol

It's the measure of leeway internet anonymity gives to people. Sense of detachment. You don't respect death because it makes you seem "hardcore", if you don't make it seem insignificant to you, you're obviously an emo crybaby.

Just don't let it bother you. It's a sociological thing. Putting on a mask of detachment is their way of puffing up their e-chests. I'm glad to see someone who isn't a total dickhead about it though, cheers.

Nice ad hominem, bro.

How is it on the moral high horse? I can't see you from all the way down here.

It's not about morality, it's about mortality. I'm scared of (and a bit fascinated by) death and i respect it. I just don't think it's something that should be taken lightly and i find it annoying that there's a whole culture of dismissing the magnitude of this event, on the 'net. Amongst people who, mostly, had very, very little interaction with the subject matter, no less, except for seeing some shock pics or reading about it.

It stops being so funny when you've had first hand experiences, but maybe that's a tad bit too SRZ BZNS XD AMIRITE LOL c: OLOLO BITCH DIED.

Meh.

Surprise: different people are affected by different things and have different priorities.
There are tens of thousands of people dying every day in the world. Now think about it - if you say that death is something that shouldn't be taken lightly, then why you don't spend your whole life grieving about them? How come you say you give death so much respect, yet allow yourself to not even notice most of it?

You're missing my point. By a country mile. Grief, or even caring about people who died has nothing to do with what i said.

Whether I would be horrified and stricken with grief if somebody dies next to me is irrelevant. We're talking about the death of a person I've barely heard of and don't care for. Just why shouldn't this be taken lightly by me?

Also, I don't like this "oh it's so obvious but you're cunts so you don't get it" style of argument.

#59

What i'm talking about is the casual approach to death and dying. If the first thing you think of upon hearing that someone died is making fun of it, well, i find that disturbing.

Look at #28. Those are the words i'd expect to come from a mortician or a shellshocked war veteran, not a cynical, argumentative nerd.

I don't expect anyone to care about the death of a person they never personally met, talked to, and know only from mass media, same as i don't expect anyone to care about the death of a poor, malnutritioned, aids infested child in Africa. Doesn't mean you have to be a dick and make cruel jokes about it, does it? I highly doubt any of you cool cats trivialize death so much in real life interactions - if you would, you'd be rejected by your peers as a dangerous sociopath. I know some hardcore assholes personally, but even they wouldn't stoop so low as to say "well, that blows, HURR HURR, get it, coz people blew up HURR HURR" after hearing about what happened in Norway (just an example).

Comes down to having some decency and respect, but i guess those are in short supply on the internet. Which is a damn shame, i really don't understand what do people get out of pretending they're something they're not.

Look at #28. Those are the words i'd expect to come from a mortician or a shellshocked war veteran, not a cynical, argumentative nerd.

Or from somebody who has thought about this and has come to different conclusions from what is generally considered decent.

I know some hardcore assholes personally, but even they wouldn't stoop so low as to say "well, that blows, HURR HURR, get it, coz people blew up HURR HURR" after hearing about what happened in Norway (just an example).

I didn't care a single bit when I heard about the norwegian bombing. Though it was merely interesting that something like that is happening. I couldn't think of any decent jokes though.

Comes down to having some decency and respect, but i guess those are in short supply on the internet. Which is a damn shame, i really don't understand what do people get out of pretending they're something they're not.

You go on and on about this respect and decency but not once did you answer why do these people deserve it.

Or from somebody who has thought about this and has come to different conclusions from what is generally considered decent.

Making shitty jokes about the recently deceased is decent? By what standards, may i ask?

You go on and on about this respect and decency but not once did you answer why do these people deserve it.

Uh, and why they don't? If you default your initial attitude towards people you don't know and the matters of life and death to derision, i'd suggest you reevaluate your way of thinking, because it can't be very healthy.

Making shitty jokes about the recently deceased is decent? By what standards, may i ask?

Humour. The joke must be funny, though.

Uh, and why they don't? If you default your initial attitude towards people you don't know and the matters of life and death to derision, i'd suggest you reevaluate your way of thinking, because it can't be very healthy.

Again you do not answer questions or lay out your views in a sensible manner. How do you think this conversation can continue?

My default stance towards strangers is neutrality.

Humour. The joke must be funny, though.

There's humour and then there's being a douchebag.

Again you do not answer questions or lay out your views in a sensible manner. How do you think this conversation can continue.

I think "not being a dick about people dying and treating death with a modicum of respect" is a pretty clear and concise message.

My default stance towards strangers is neutrality.

The morbid, unsociable kind, i geddid.

There's humour and then there's being a douchebag.

Why should humour subscribe to any (moral) norms?

I think "not being a dick about people dying and treating death with a modicum of respect" is a pretty clear and concise message.

Yes, but not once have you said what exactly being a dick is or why do these people and their deaths deserve that respect.

The morbid, unsociable kind, i geddid.

You can try to paint me as an inhumane person.

Why should humour subscribe to any (moral) norms?

It shouldn't. You should.

Yes, but not once have you said what exactly being a dick is or why do these people and their deaths deserve that respect.

Yeah i bet it would shatter your rebellious, angsty, self-perpetuated hard-ass image if you'd give someone the benefit of the doubt for no reason, huh?

And what kind of a question is it anyway, why should you respect death. Are you for real? I hope you're trolling me, otherwise, please, seek professional help.

These things are not so obvious if you think about them.

:/

You keep the ad hominems rolling without even trying to answer questions. I'm a bit disappointed.

Now isn't that funny, you're disappointed. Well, i'm horrified that such simple things even require explanation to you.

Let me put it this way, go witness some actual deaths irl. Maybe kill somebody. Just let the inevitability of our expiring lives sink in. It won't be so hilarious to you if you realize that shit is real and can and will very much happen to you and everyone you know.

Or, on the flipside, tell people about your dead relative and laugh with them as they shit all over his/her memory. Or maybe it ain't so funny and so easy to distance yourself when it's personal, and it's always personal to someone out there, if only the dead person in question. But of course, you won't care, because why should you, you're too awesome to do stupid shit like follow some lame social standards of decency, amirite? Only brainless drones do that shit, amirite? XD

See, that's what i'm talking about. You and your ilk are just a bunch of twats trivializing something very, very real, and very, very important without realizing what you're doing. You just want to be cool and different, but you're just another dickhead (so to speak).

Should have remembered that i'm talking with someone who's idea of humour is telling a guy who's expecting a baby that "you feel sorry for it". Oh well.

Let me put it this way, go witness some actual deaths irl. Maybe kill somebody. Just let the inevitability of our expiring lives sink in. It won't be so hilarious to you if you realize that shit is real and can and will very much happen to you and everyone you know.

Why would I kill anybody? It must be a horrible, traumatizing experience. Same (perhaps a bit less) with witnessing another individual pass away next to you. What does that change regarding the topic at hand? The fact that people feel strongly about something means I shouldn't joke about it?

Or, on the flipside, tell people about your dead relative and laugh with them as they shit all over his/her memory. Or maybe it ain't so funny and so easy to distance yourself when it's personal, and it's always personal to someone out there, if only the dead person in question.

It's not easy at first. But I'm pretty sure it would be easy for me now (if the jokes were funny).

But of course, you won't care, because why should you, you're too awesome to do stupid shit like follow some lame social standards of decency, amirite? Only brainless drones do that shit, amirite? XD

Some standards make sense and are standards because we need them to survive in society. Others are a result of some failed philosophy or a misunderstanding (w/e). It's up to us to decide which standards should be propagated.

Should have remembered that i'm talking with someone who's idea of humour is telling a guy who's expecting a baby that "you feel sorry for it". Oh well.

Oh come on, anybody with a sense of self-humour would chuckle at that.

c:

Why would I kill anybody? It must be a horrible, traumatizing experience. Same (perhaps a bit less) with witnessing another individual pass away next to you. What does that change regarding the topic at hand? The fact that people feel strongly about something means I shouldn't joke about it?

No, ffs. It's about purging your mind of ignorance and ejecting this "dun care just cuz" mentality out of it. You know i'm not Mr. Proper or anything myself, but i think people who have no idea what they're talking about should not joke about death. By that i mean e-thugs who think they're masterful trolls, but in reality they're just extremely detached from everything around them.

It's not easy at first. But I'm pretty sure it would be easy for me now (if the jokes were funny).

I mean soon after their passing. Sure people joke and tell themselves anecdotes (more or less "appropriate", it's purely contextual), but usually when the pain and feeling of loss is subdued by time, and only in the close circle of people related to said person.

You'd muster up a honest chuckle if some random passerby on the street told a semi-funny but absolutely disgusting joke about your dead relative (don't even necessarily mean directly, like maybe a joke about some accident or event where your relative lost his/her life)? Coz i'd get immensely butthurt and punch the motherfucker in the face.

Some standards make sense and are standards because we need them to survive in society. Others are a result of some failed philosophy or a misunderstanding (w/e). It's up to us to decide which standards should be propagated.

Sure, but let me ask you, are you the best person to to judge that? You're, technically, a sociopath (considering your, well, antisocial views).

No, ffs. It's about purging your mind of ignorance and ejecting this "dun care just cuz" mentality out of it. You know i'm not Mr. Proper or anything myself, but i think people who have no idea what they're talking about should not joke about death. By that i mean e-thugs who think they're masterful trolls, but in reality they're just extremely detached from everything around them.

I'm neither. I just try to understand (and I'd be very pleased if somebody could point out flaws in my reasoning).

You'd muster up a honest chuckle if some random passerby on the street told a semi-funny but absolutely disgusting joke about your dead relative (don't even necessarily mean directly, like maybe a joke about some accident or event where your relative lost his/her life)? Coz i'd get immensely butthurt and punch the motherfucker in the face.

I find it immensely hard to be offended by anything anybody might say. You should try it one day, it's really freeing.

Sure, but let me ask you, are you the best person to to judge that? You're, technically, a sociopath (considering your, well, antisocial views).

I'm not a sociopath, I feel empathy. I just try to understand why I do things the way I do them.

why are you wasting your time replying to this guy?
he clearly is a moron..

Judging by his reasoning if someone was bragging about going to a graveyard and pissing/shitting all over the tombstones he'd probably find that fine too..
Or maybe he laughs when he hears another soldier has died for his country..

people like that, not worth the effort :)

Judging by his reasoning if someone was bragging about going to a graveyard and pissing/shitting all over the tombstones he'd probably find that fine too..

Where did you get that from? Also, tombstones are just tombstones. Nothing magic about them.

Or maybe he laughs when he hears another soldier has died for his country..

Not really, but even if, it's more of a bitter laugh as in "another idiot has died for machinations way beyond his scope."

why are you wasting your time replying to this guy?
he clearly is a moron..

Nah man, Chris just has some really funky opinions. We actually kinda sorta agreed to disagree after continuing the discussion on irc. ;)

well yes it was a given that you two were not going to agree..

but my moronic point still stands unless he does a complete u-turn and admits to playing devils advocate..

..I still doubt I could physically meet someone with such 'funky' opinions (: I just didn't know such people existed

There is much for you to learn, then.

We didn't really reach any conclusions. :/

I know, but i don't think we would anyway.

Dear vedic, I know you enjoy all those yes/no/yes/no/yes/no posts but you could at least keep for yourself the fact that you share your head with a dozen other people ( and let their esr accounts remain unknown ).

the difference is: she was a great musican.
YOU are...nothing?

Great is subjective.

right on man

with her selfdestrictive nature, it was but a countdown.

some people sadly dont recognise the value of their own life :(

Good riddance.

you're pathetic

Thanks but I don't think so.

But she was pathetic :
She was so famous and so rich, and yet she self-destructed.
There are lots of people who would need help, money, attention. She gave nothing to them and preferred to let herself die.
She was a selfish and useless bag of bones...

lol'ed, Im gonna die a horrible death now, or not.

Liked her a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZGeHQMqdVs

R.I.P.

Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Brian Jones, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Amy Winehouse. RIP

amy winehouse should not be used in the same sentence as any of them.

don't forget Robert Johnson.

2 out of 7 from Seattle.

hahaha yeah hahaha !

fuckin pussy. show yourself

The 27 club gained a new member!

one does wonder if theres 27 members allowed

There are more than 40 at the moment ...

shit. :/

Cocaine is hell of a drug!

am i the only person who never heard of this person or has no idea who the fuck they are or what the hell they did?

Yes.

nope, im with you, i looked her up, some white bitch singer, the fuck do i care

wow... you really do live under a rock

You weren't missing much

i looked her up. ew

R.I.P So much talent, such a waste :( sad.

She had great talent (though I do not really like jazz ... I like heavy metal!), but almost never used it a lot. It is unlike the case of Kurt Cobain, for example. Before he died had time to show his talent and worked much well.

The truth is that I feel sorry for her, but I have much more
sorry for the parents! I do not want to imagine their pain.

rest in peace. I am not sure what kind of music she did - I heard her name before though and I read one or two articles about it. After seeing how young she was I assumed it was drugs. Sadly, I was right.

good thing i don't give a damn about a dead drug addict

i think it is ridiculous that people are always like "oh noes, someone i've seen on tv is dead, i feel so bad now" when there are other people starving to death all over the world

Well if those african children could sing maybe they'd get more exposure

especially if they sung about drug addiction and love problems.

We tried to get a lowly food stamp they said no no no

It has potential

Why should humour subscribe to any (moral) norms?
[q]It shouldn't. You should.

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spoken like a true zealot! plus that didn't even make sense.

burned anyone at stake today yet, madbringer?

try to be a little more open-minded. just because you don't understand something or someone doesn't mean they're wrong (and much less that you're right).

what do princess diana and amy winehouse have in common?

they both did speed and smack before they died.

oh thats just..oh ...

/o\

Nice. Haven't heard Princess Di black-humor in like 8 years.

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McDonalds have released the Amy Winehouse McValue Meal,
It's Just Coke and Ice.

she beat britney to it