" at least 3000dpi"

I'd like to see the math proving you need this dpi :) (Because NEEDING 3000dpi is a bit ridiculous)

Man I'm a bit tired of explaining it so I will be rude sorry >:(

The world doesn't resume itselft to FPS only. You know, some people like RTS. I will ask you a question: do you like to be handicaped? I answer for you: no you don't like. In RTS if you play with low screen resolutions you lose FOV and then you're handicaped. Thus, in RTS, players wants to play with a high screen resolution.


Currently I'm playing very confortably in 1024px screen resolution with 1600dpi (Abyssus). Do the math... and you will find out that for 1920px the mouse-resolution that will deliver the same sensitivity is exactly 3000dpi.


QED

which means at most 2 centimeters to move from one side to the other which means you're either retarded or trying to get the top spot in some " who's gonna get rsi first " on tl.net.

I don't have those injuries and I've been playing this way for more than 10 years.

If you beleive every thing you read in the internet then I'm afraid that you're the retarded here.

I'm sorry, I believe medical stuff about repetitive movements.

I'm sorry, consistent empirical data has been gathered and showed that for my case your sentence is false.

CM Storm does not use this sensor and has less dpi if I remember correctly.

Try an Abyssus, maybe you get lucky with a non-jittering sensor.

Or get whatever Avago9500 mouse you want, as LOD and slight acceleration ain't no problem for you (I assume).

I would take Abyssus 3.5G as a last resort, because the only thing that bothers me a bit in its shape is the buttons side-to-side dimension (a bit too big for my grip style):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Furuya...opview.jpg


And I said Spawn, not Storm :)
you're correct, looks like it's the same mouse and it's not Avago 9500!

The perfect mouse would be a Kinzu or MiCO (good shapes for me) with other sensor.

"at least 3000dpi"

DAM U RAZER WITH YOUR BS MARKETING!

you no read my explanation :(

So far no one answered my question. Only T1E tried to help, the rest is just trolling. What a sad forum.

WMO
3.0
MX518
DA

:D xai works fine on my qck heavy. i heard bad things from others though they were using a sens even lower than mine, which is miles away from yours btw.

xai works fine on puretrak talent. That "postive accel on ADNS-9500" issue is really overrated btw

Thanks.

I'm wondering if it works fine on Goliathus Speed or I will have to buy another mousepad. I've read that Xai was designed to work specifically on SS 4HD/9HD but those are hard pads :/


About the acceleration issue, I'm guessing then that it will not be an issue at all for me as my top speed is really low (measured less than 500mm/s one time) due to the high sens.

I can test goliathus speed + xai tomorrow if I got time

That would be awesome! Waiting for the results :)

3600dpi 1000hz, no prediction, aim support etc all turned off
no jitter (paint test)
couldn't make it skip
high responsiveness = even very small mouse movements are registered
low lod
seems to work fine.

That's great! Thank you very much, asyyy.

g9x?

:(

I'm looking for an cloth mousepad for mouses with the Avago ADNS-9500 sensor.

I will edit the topic to avoid confusion.

And G9X is a good call. Maybe better than Xai because it's smaller.

oh

talent
goliathus speed (used w/ a xai for a while, worked very well)

oh that's nice to know it has worked well. Thanks!

cloth pads are only a serious issue with xai either way, g9x works fine on cloth pads

What kind of issues exactly?

he has a sens around 3.3cm/360° (in quake terms), i don't think he will have any issue whatsoever.

xai isnt smaller than the g9x

g9x with no grips is the smallest around.

I use the g500 on the goliathus speed

I know, I said that G9X is smaller than Xai, not the other way around :P

Nice to know that you can use your mouse (Avago 9500 sensor) in goliathus speed.

too bad he can't use his native language.

say it to my face not online and see what happens

you'd have to pay me to fly to jocy.

3000+ DPI for RTS games.

aw yeah.

I used to play with 800dpi on 1280x1024 (and a palm grip) which was pretty fast considering I'm on 400dpi+1920x1080 now.
I was pretty insane at that time tbh. I rarely play any RTS these days though but I do believe a high sens makes sense in RTS. His may be extreme but I'm not shocked (I even did 800dpi in 640x480 for Warcraft 2 with the "ultra speed" setting haha)

From my experiments it's not that hard to play with a high sens when you have a fingertip grip.

G9X works well with Goliathus Speed and Zowie G-TF.

Thanks for your input.

I added a summary on the feedbacks in the OP. So far the score is Good 8 x 1 Bad ("Good": Cloth pads are good for Avago-9500; "Bad": the opposite).

About the mouses.

I've read that G9x without any grips and without cable weights 82g. Anyone can confirm that?

Also, I've read that Xai without cable weights 94g.


If the precison weighing-machine I have here supports 100~200g weighting I will weight my Abyssus and post the result here. So far, I've read that Abyssus weights around 60g.


EDIT:

So, the balance supported up to 120g so I could safely take the measurement without hurting it. Because I don't want to void the warranty (2 years) I didn't opened the mouse to remove the cable, but I weighted it in a way to supress almost all of the weight cable. The balance was sensitive enough to detect the changes when I tried to supress the weight of the cable so unfortunately the values are not exact at the first digit after the decimal point.




Readings [1, 2, 3]

Notice how the cable is supported on the pencil holder back there and how I varied the closer support (tape) to obtain better readings, obviously taking care to not over do it by generating negative weight for the cable.

I would say that my particular "instance" of Abyssus weights 71g. That makes me very happy if G9x supposed weight of 82g gets confirmed.

yeah, g9 is defo heavier than the salmosa/abyssus

I don't have a precision scale to precisely compare their weights though

So since you own both mouses, what would you say to a user switching from Abyssus to G9x? Would you say that he can get used to G9x weight or it's unlikely? Because size looks pretty similar, only weight might be an issue.

What's your feel with G9x? What's your grip style? Please tell me your thoughts on G9x vs Abyssus :)

I have >30 mice and my first was the Logitech G5 five years ago. I came from pretty big and heavy mice to those small and light ones, but vice-versa I can still use big and heavy mice nowadays.

I use claw grip, maybe that's the reason I'm comfortably with most mice shapes.

allright, thx!

Yes, the weight of g9x is ~80-84g (depending on how I hold the cable) without grips, weights and weights holder (4-5g empty, but there's a hole in the mouse if it's not there).
Switched from g9x (used 140g) to abyssus (~68g) only to make very small and fast side-to-side mouse movements more precise (easier with small weight for me). I'd still play with heavy g9x if I didn't need to use this kind of movements; actually, that's only for lg and similar weapons in FPS.
Also, note that g9x was designed to be used with grips, as it is quite narrow, its sides are really flat, the side buttons are tiny and hard to press, and the metal parts that hold the grips stick out.

Ok, so I think I'm picking the G9x! I needed that confirmation about the weight. I was afraid that it weighted more than 100g even without weights/grip.