kg voted: Blood Run, Lost World, Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Toxicity


asd

back to 5maps would be niec :|

if its 5 maps, i would love to see picking maps instead of dropping, once its bo3

yep :|

Why? Having a couple more maps to practice and spectate is better imo.

if the other maps were good... but t4, dm13, house of decay, dismemberment are snooze fests :)

I think t4 and dm13 are both good maps, and they both have some unique traits that separate them from the other duel maps.

t4 is the only map without LG. It's also the only map that is not heavily based on map control.

dm13 is the only map without rail. I would say it's also more about cutting off your opponent and catching your opponent off guard than the other maps are.

IMO both of these maps should stay until there are maps that can properly replace them.

ZeritoN voted: Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Concrete Palace, Hektik, Toxicity


Don't see the point in playing ZTN and DM6 in these tournies since it'd be so much more useful to use it only to play new maps. Therefore I voted these 'new' maps but even Aerowalk, T7 and T9 could take a hike

DM13 and Dismemberment can lick my sweaty ballsack

I voted for a 5 map pool.

voted: Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Hektik, Toxicity

For a 7 map pool I would probably add ztn and t4.

fallen voted: Blood Run, Lost World, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Hektik

pface voted: Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Concrete Palace, Hektik, Toxicity

xou voted: Blood Run, Campgrounds, Lost World, Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Hektik, Toxicity

10 maps feel good!

WTFProoF?! voted: Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Hektik, Toxicity

English streams !!!

Dont give a fuck about maps tbh

annihiluzz voted: Campgrounds, Aerowalk

Mojo voted: Blood Run, Campgrounds, Lost World, Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Concrete Palace, Dismemberment, Hektik, Toxicity




ALL OF THEM

[+] whore

D1Z' voted: Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds, Campgrounds.

Whatever you do, keep t4.

n1ghty voted: Vertical Vengance, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Concrete Palace, Toxicity

rushhh voted: Blood Run, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Concrete Palace, Toxicity

ins voted: Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Hektik
probably the most balanced mappool? :<

plz I don't want to hear that word anymore :~

apropos balanced: every map you listed is kind of known to be dominated by rail :D

and that's bad?

yes

yes

pks voted: Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Concrete Palace, Hektik, Toxicity

perty plz

mefajpE^ voted: Blood Run, Campgrounds, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Hektik, Toxicity

Seems we have the same taste ;) ...

*edit*
ah ztn sux but rest is ok :D

not a big fan of ztn either, but it's a tactical map and so much better than *known inside-out by everyone* dm13

how does dism have more votes than cp? cp really deserves a chance

Kayzah voted: Blood Run, Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Hektik, Toxicity

extaleR voted: Blood Run, Lost World, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Hektik

well tbh i dont know concrete palace, so i cant say anything about it.. but i think its critical, that people only want to see those fast rape maps like hektik or toxicity anymore.. Sure its fun to watch, because there is much action on the streams when those maps are played.. But they keep they keep the tactical component of quake entirely away and matches can go either way.. i dont want to become a fast ffa shooter, i want a game that is about decisions and if you have good reactions and a nice aim, that should help you to win your games, but it shouldnt be everything.. those rapemaps ruin ql duel as a very difficult and tactical mode where you have to have a lot of experience and knowledge imho..
beside that, i think a bigger pool makes it more diversified for players and people who watch. conclusion:
dsdl voted: Blood Run, Lost World, Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Dismemberment
:)

well part of the appeal of toxicity and hektik is that they are new. its not only about their constant in your face fighting. battleforged plays with a quite balanced tempo and its only a few votes behind hektik...
anyway you have a point and i would also hate to see aero, hektik and toxicity in the same mappool, there needs to be some more variety

A big fat +1 dsdl

remove Lost World thanks

Blood Run
Campgrounds
Lost World
Vertical Vengance
Furious Heights
House of Decay
toxicity

Why house of decay was ever removed I don't know. It's a great map and a really fun map to watch imo. Same with dm6 I feel.

Don't like aerowalk (Just think it's too aim heavy and random for my liking but that's just my opinion) the rest are good maps even concrete place but I just prefer + think these maps are the most balanced and great to watch overall.

I think people are forgetting that just because there aren't many frags doesn't mean it's any less entertaining.

My opinion of course

you need to realise this.

once you start forcing new maps, you will cut-off the standard players and then the community is going to shrink...

on the other hand, if ql does not get enough subscribers it will die anyway (with the current business model)
the whole situation is kinda fucked up :(

but tbh we should not accept stagnation because people who play a game for years and compete in tournaments are not willing to pay2$ a month, fuck them. get a subscription and enjoy the new maps

you can thank id for that instead.Its their own fault that their buisness model is not sustainable without subscriptions.Theire not offering the real "premium" content as premium and theire charging for standard stuff as premium...Imagine how cool it would be to buy a pro-package and recieve over mail gadget like this just with QL logo http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/flash_d...ash_drives with installed game and ready for LAN setup.

i am not happy about the way id decided to go with ql, but that does not mean that i am happy about ungrateful whiny quake players either

Aerowalk
Battleforged
Blood Run
Concrete Palace
Furious Heights
Hektik
Toxicity

^imo.

Dunno why Palace is getting rocks thrown at it... they swapped the YA / GA making it more balanced... what more do you want? Do only certain layouts work? If Palace were to be a good map, would it require changing to the point that it would be unrecognizable?

Also Battleforged had those sound issues fixed, and it`s pretty fun to play / watch IMO. Should be back in.

Toxicity is small and fast and it requires courage to grab the RA / MH. My only complaint is that it has no shotgun for who knows what reason and three RL`s, but it is tourney-worthy for sure, IMO.

Aerowalk;
Furious Heights;
Toxicity;
Blood Run;
Hektik;
Lost World;
Campgrounds!

someone plz explain to me why t7/furiousheights is on almost everyones vote? don't vote for it just because it's supposed to be in the mappool...

from my pov it's too balanced, out of control guy can easily get 150 armor+2/3 good weapons unless he gets a shit spawn/spawnraped.

I kinda like the optics but some tuning is really needed..

Probably because it is a well balanced map and it's a good spectator map. People aren't voting for it because "It's supposed to be there" They're voting for it because they enjoy it ;p

whally voted: blood run, campgrounds, lost world, vertical vengeance, furious heights, aerowalk, toxicity.

As a 5-map pool I think "blood run, lost world, aerowalk, toxicity, and furious heights" would be great. If you want campgrounds, replace toxicity with it.

Any pool with aerowalk, hektik, and toxicity in it will be bad. Those three maps are way too similar in gameplay and space.

agree with the 3 maps, i think aero/toxicity should be in the pool, at least for a while. lost world has got to go though man, map delivers good games maybe like 10-20% of the time =\

You're talking from a spectator point-of-view. I know viewership is a big deal, but these players are playing for money and should perform on maps that really test skill. DM13 is a map that does take a lot of control and positioning and aim. As an admin, I try and make map pools that vary in different techniques. Aerowalk, Blood Run, Lost World, and Vertical Vengeance are pretty much the 4 corners of the dueling universe.

Zero4 voted:

Vertical Vengeance

boenk voted: Lost World, Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, Battleforged, Toxicity


ztn needs to get removed and aerowalk is shit in ql

I've always thought that Zotac would benefit from a dynamic map pool. Have a large pool of potential maps, but on any given weekend only 3 would be selected (announced a week or so in advance). It would add variety to the cup, give the organisers something to advertise each week, give an opportunity to test out newer additions to QL without worrying too much if the map is ready for a 6 month rotation, etc.

You could either balance a pool of 3 (e.g. 1 old classic, 1 QL staple map, 1 new map... or 1 slow, 1 medium, 1 fast) or you could give particular themes to a weekend (adrenaline rush weekend with 3 fast maps, brain drain weekend with 3 slow maps).

It would benefit the sponsors if people are talking more about 'this weeks zotac', it would benefit the community if more maps get a chance in the spotlight, it would benefit QL development if feedback on new maps is based on competition level scrutiny (which is when the real issues start to show themselves). The only downside I can see is that some players who are reluctant to learn new maps will have a disadvantage against those who do (which could result in some disappointing blowouts)... but you could also say that gives new players to the scene a chance to make their names.

S W E L T
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It had to be done...

this man speaks the truth

love the idea and I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought of it before but unfortunately I'm also pretty sure you'd get less sign ups. should be worth a try though!

I like that comment much. You may as well already be working for Zotac. =)))

"The only downside I can see is that some players who are reluctant to learn new maps will have a disadvantage against those who do"

that isn't a downside.. its yet another upside. Good ideas, I hope they are implemented!

lovely idea indeed

Make some new maps for QL :) I love them all!

rind voted: Lost World, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Hektik, Toxicity

Why don't I see Phrantic, the best map in QL1v1, on this maplist?

^ This.

^ This

TOXICITY AEROWALK CAMPGROUNDS HOUSE OF DECAY AND FURIOUS HEIGHTS !

aero and bloodrun should stay in the pool forever as they are the best quake maps ever made

Agree
Edit: Or atleast till aero2/ztn2 from original authors ;p

rofl, u obv dunno quake 1v1 maps

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2066932#pid2066932

well obviously u dont either

seriously mate I LOVE DM6 and I LOVE T9 but these re not a proper competition maps

why dont u post dm17 cos its fun too?

I didnt say that those maps are best maps ever LOL, just voted my fav maps. Seems that your reply FAILED

where did i say that u said that the maps u posted are in your opinion the best?

im just judging your taste man

just out of curiosity pls tell me what maps are better than ztn and aero cos maybe there re some leet maps there that i dont know about? (and pls spare me q2dm1 cos its pure epicness and a legend which should not be ever discussed but still it only works this good in q2)

what criteria would the best map ever based on?

IMO the variety of play styles that can be employed on a map.

Bo5 on t9

Went for a 7 map pool with: ZTN, dm13, T4, T9, aerowalk, toxicity and T7.

Seems like a good balance. 2 non-rail maps, one non LG map with the other maps having full arsenal will make things more interesting. Also, there's 2 fast paced aim heavy map in toxicity and aero, 2 maps that can be played fast paced or slow in T9 and T4 and 3 tactical maps.

Blood Run, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Hektik, Toxicity

i'd be okay with aerowalk out for t4 too, i s'pose

Take the top 6 minus hektik, and I would be happy :) I'm so so on T4 as well.

And plz remove dm13, there is just no variety anymore. Some amazing stuff still happens on ztn and hub; the best thing that happens on dm13 is a good rocket into the lava, or a nice spam kill or two, quake has so much more to offer than this map can provide.

zoN- voted: Lost World, Vertical Vengance, Aerowalk, Dismemberment, Hektik, Toxicity

uuuaaaaaa voted: Blood Run, Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Toxicity

maps like : hektik, aero should be out . too much random . since quake series is another way of playing

Fast paced maps are not brain dead maps... quite the contrary.

maltyplaya voted: Blood Run, Campgrounds, Furious Heights, House of Decay, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Hektik

ZTN and DM6 to keep oldschool players happy. T9 for comic relief, naturally. Telefrags and plasma spam Cooller shenanigans ftw.

the mappool with 3 fast maps (aerowalk, hektik, toxicity) out of 5 is bullshit.

5: aero / toxicity for fast action, ztn / t7 for taktikal and t4 because it's something different

Is there a reason so many QL maps have the same configuration? I mean, every map has like 2 YA's (or the rough equivalent), 1 RA and a mega. It used to be more common to have one red, one yellow and one mega. Not to mention the fact, every played QL map contains a mega, and only t4 has something other than a 35 second mega. Is it the work of arQon? I know he likes to push his concept of giving people more armor (like he did in cpm). Maybe it would be better though, to create a new armor, which gives people 150... that way, we could at least have more map variety, where a map could have like a 150, an RA and maybe a mega. Having too many items actually slows the game down more than it increases the amount of fighting.

I agree that there should be more variety in terms of power up layouts in maps. Not all maps need to be all about map control. I would like to see a new map with something similar to t4's power up scheme. (2 YA's and a major power up between them that has a slow respawn) For the middle power up you could have something like a 1 minute RA.

if bo7: Aerowalk, Toxicity, Furious Heights, Blood Run, Hektik, Battleforged, Lost World
if bo5: Aerowalk, Toxicity, Furious Heights, Hektik, Battleforged
if bo3: Aerowalk, Furious Heights, Hektik
if bo1: Aerowalk

perfect!

3 aim maps in bo5 = fail

its a first person shooter...your maths is off

and toxicity & hektik are the only overly open maps (havent seen bf played in a while though)

voted: ztn, aerowalk, campgrounds, hektik, Furious Heights :)

needy voted : Blood Run,Campgrounds,Hektik,Furious Heights, Lost World , Aerowalk , toxicity

voted some random maps i want in, but nvm those

one thing the orgs should think about is including maybe 4 out of 7 or 3 out of 5 standard maps so everyone can sign up for the first 5-6 rounds

All of them. Let the players drop and pick.

ZOTAC Quake Live Cup announces new mappool
http://qlive.zotac-cup.com/de/news/1572-zotac...w-mappool/

Thanks a lot for everybody's feedback!

kg voted: Blood Run, Lost World, Vertical Vengance, Furious Heights, Aerowalk, Battleforged, Toxicity

After the community vote on ESReality was published we talked with several professional players about the new mappool.

:DD

HOORAY!!

:))))))))))))))))

Lost world still included :(

5 out of 7 are real quality maps, very very good choice indeed

fucking great mappool.

cant complain, its got everything

ZeRo4 voted Hektik. Dkt voted to kick ZeRo4.