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making a kinzu-wmo frankenmouse isn't worth the time (and money) in my opinion, as their shapes are so alike anyway

A death adder sensor fits snug though.

Who wants a crap DA sensor?

the original 1800 dpi sensor is one of the best sensors ever made :S

Is it even possible to get a 3g DA though?

I'm sure with enough dedication looking around all the national ebay sites you would fine a few :)

I have one just gathering dust in my cupboard; going to put its sensor into a better shell some time soon :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Razer-Deathadder-1800-D...2a0f0eb226

Don't get a Kinuz.

It's a lot smaller than WMO
Mouse Feet are terrible
positive accel
cost 5x more

But the feel and build of the mouse is quite nice.

Kinzu has no problem out of box.
Just DO NOT install any drivers and feet can be changed to Teflon.

Kinzu has:

-Hardware based positive acceleration
-More prediction/correction than any mouse I've used in the past. (I'm fine with an Avago 3060 or 3080, but that's pushing it)
-A low malfunction rate.

Steelseries can confirm the first Flaw or will I say feature on there very own website.

http://faq.steelseries.com/questions/194/Does...eration%3F

Unlike the Xai, the kinzu dosen't have an MCU. Prediction is hard coded into the SROM and cannot be changed with software.

And the malfunction rate is generally a personal problem since I use a very low sensitivity.

Drivers or not, I've been through 2 of these things on 3 separate computers and they both show Identical problems.

If you use Kinzu without any software installed it works fine.

If you installed drivers then Kinzu is fucked up no matter how many computers you try it keeps driver setting in its flash memory which cannot be erased. Yes Kinzu has its own onboard memory to store gay setting of the their drivers.

http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-kinzu-optical

I had 3 Kinzu they worked fine but I made mistake to install older drivers which also had acceleration and other gay settings. 3rd one works just fine because I haven't install anything else. (new os) It has its own prediction tho.

Only thing I am trying to tell you that if anyone bought Kinzu plz DO NOT INSTALL ANY DRIVERS! it works fine with basic firmware which is factory settings or default firmware from sensor company. If you want to change dpi then press and hold dpi switch to change profiles with different dpi settings. Cannot adjust polling rate because default settings are 1000hz for 2nd and 3rd profile 1st profile is 500hz with 400 /800 dpi factory.

I didn't install drivers on my first mouse until I felt that I had to monkey around with the thing to fix the acceleration problems under raw input and various mouse fixes.

I never said anything about the kinzu not having onboard memory, but drivers have nothing to do with the prediction and malfunction rate as they're natural and hardcoded sensor characteristics.

So even if one problem was essentially fixed, there are still two more issues I have with the sensor itself.

Maybe you do have working Kinzu's, and maybe I got a couple bad ones, but whether people want to risk it is a choice they're going to have to make.

Yes sensor has its own problem and it doesn't feel very natural like DA or Mx518 but it has not much acceleration out of box only slight prediction.

Only risk is drivers which store all its settings in mouse. I just want to know if there is anyway I can get access to that memory and delete all those settings.

It has high risk because people will install drivers and it will messed up permanently.

It has best shape that I like and my Kinzuadder 3G now owns! :P

it doesn't work fine it's a piece of crap compared to any working gaming-grade mouse. the shape is nice though!

The build and feel is all I'm really concerned with if it's just going to get frankenmouse'd.

If you want a Xai, it's still cheaper to buy RUSE Pro Gamer Edition on Amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003EYUV3U...B003EYUV3U

Edit: nevermind, out of stock.

why would you want to get a WMO sensor in a worse shape?

I like the feel and size of the Kinzu, and hey I've got like 4 WMOs kicking around in my drawer, $30 really isn't a concern.

well I guess if you're bored go for it but you should do this tbh
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2051200

Xai sucks. It's impossible not to hit the right side mouse button (if you're right handed) or left side mouse button (if you're left handed) while you're playing.

Side button placement could have been better. :/

I had the same problem when palmgripping this mouse, but maybe clawgrip doesn't make problems.

oh my god, I made the impossible happen