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Best crosshair for LG? (82 comments)

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Posted by Dynamix @ 08:26 CST, 21 February 2011 - iMsg

Doing a configoverhaul atm and I'm getting around to setting up weapon specific settings.

I'm leaning towards 16 since it leaves a nice clear space to aim at.

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<< Comment #1 @ 09:09 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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annihiluzz

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5690/98167791.jpg

Edited by annihiluzz at 09:10 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #2 @ 09:35 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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ins '

just use the one you feel more comfortable with .. -.-

<< Comment #3 @ 10:05 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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/rage quit

Just use strenx's cfg..You don't even need to move your mouse and you'll be gettin' 50+ lg..I'm talking it(c)Coollaaah:) just kiddin'.. i think all the best shafters use cross with circle around..Toxjq and strenx for example. Don't know why but i think that its easier when you aim with that circle cuz you're just looking for the enemy to be in it..Try different things but at the end of the day it's just what you feel most comfortable with.:P

<< Comment #4 @ 10:18 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #3

tox used a separate crosshair for lg after a while. The DOT and cross/circle for rail :D

<< Comment #5 @ 10:24 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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boenk

set shaft "weapon 6; cg_drawgun 2; cg_fov 100; cg_drawcrosshair 3; cg_crosshaircolor 17; cg_crosshairsize 32; sensitivity 4; cg_gunX -10; cg_gunY 3.4; cg_gunZ -8"

gives you an awesome 25% accuracy :D

<< Comment #6 @ 10:36 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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burgonya

personal preference
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(i use cypher's custom one [fatty cg_drawcrosshair 3], and i think lots of people use cross 7)
^but all that means nothing.

Edited by burgonya at 10:39 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #7 @ 11:10 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Something

Just experiment man :)

Take a look at Skilley's cfg collection for some inspiration:

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1926701

Most of the configs I've seen use a crosshair for lg which has something in the middle of the crosshair (cross or dot etc) for lg; the only exception being crosshair 3 (which cypher uses a custom variant of)

Cypher custom crosshair related thread:

http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2009296

This is what I use (I got lg raped by Torzelan yonks ago in a duel and copied his fov and crosshair since then :S ) But it does feel really nice for me :)

My Config

Hope this is of some use to you at least :)

Edited by Something at 11:40 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #8 @ 11:21 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #7

//21" Dell CRT monitor @ 85Hz
//GO BUY A CRT; THEY'RE AWESOME!! :)

fail :_<

<< Comment #9 @ 11:37 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Something - Reply to #8

Kind of a half fail :(

The monitor can run at 160hz @ 640*480 and 120hz @ 1024*768; but the AWFUL ati drivers for XP would not let me set the refresh rate above 85hz (tried everything I could think of and find online; turns out many ppl had the same problem).

I'm on win7 now and have lovely 120hz, so its all good :)

It's and oldish config from another computer ;)

Edit: And r_displayrefresh is set to 120 in the config as well so fu ;)

My statement of CRT's being awesome still stands though!

Edited by Something at 11:41 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #25 @ 18:02 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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lewl - Reply to #9

http://downloads.guru3d.com/ATI-Refresh-Rate-...d-439.html ;)

but yeah too late

<< Comment #27 @ 19:05 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Something - Reply to #25

I tried this and it did not work for me :(

The one that I could find only supported older drivers; which did not support my card (4870 X2) :(

Apparently it would take a minimal amount of effort for ati to resolve this (or so I've read), and yet they havent :(

<< Comment #10 @ 13:12 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #8

actually I'd take the 85hz with 0ms input lag over 120hz on lcd anyway
although i do prefer my 0ms input delay with 120hz

<< Comment #11 @ 15:44 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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mar- - Reply to #10

My monitor will be that tomorrow :D Im exstatic! \:D/

<< Comment #18 @ 16:44 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #11

grats man!

<< Comment #20 @ 16:51 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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mar- - Reply to #18

Yea thx :D

<< Comment #32 @ 03:46 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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mar- - Reply to #18

LG W2363D is awesome! \:D/

<< Comment #14 @ 16:23 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #10

i played with 100hz on a crt for a year and switched now to a vastly superior 120hz tft. i call bullshit on that... you either never tried a crt with lower than 120hz or you do not have one of the latest tfts.

edit: looking at your profile says it all...

Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 226BW 22" 2ms 1680x1050
Monitor2: NEC Multisync FE992 160hz refresh 19" max res 2048x1536

"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others" - Douglas Adams ...haha, that's two out of two.

Edited by zealot at 16:25 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #15 @ 16:32 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #14

yeah, those two monitors are horrible.
wait no.
not sure I follow what you're saying.

And yes, I've played on my buddy's 2233rz quite a few times. It's got an even bigger input lag than my 226bw.

I will admit, though, that while I prefer my CRT, I'd still take the 85hz with 0ms input delay over your 120hz TFT with 5ms input delay, thanks.

<< Comment #16 @ 16:35 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #15

a) you do not play with a 85hz crt, you play with a 160hz crt.

b) you do not play with a new gen 120hz tft, you play with an first gen 226bw.

why do you think you're the one to judge?

i actually played with a 100hz crt for a year THEN changed to the benq 120hz. it is FAR superior regarding input lag, with the crt i could see a railtrail with railtrailtime 0. with the benq i do not, that is how drastic the difference is.

<< Comment #17 @ 16:40 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #16

you didn't read my post

<< Comment #19 @ 16:45 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #17

#1
//21" Dell CRT monitor @ 85Hz
//GO BUY A CRT; THEY'RE AWESOME!! :)

#2
actually I'd take the 85hz with 0ms input lag over 120hz on lcd anyway

i was trying to tell you that you are wrong and never experienced the difference.

in other words, you are another one of those forum people who claim to know about stuff they have no experience with. i, on the other hand, experienced exactly what you were talking about and can tell you that you are wrong.

of course you are free to do whatever, so i rest my case :S

<< Comment #21 @ 16:52 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #19

from comment #15

"And yes, I've played on my buddy's 2233rz quite a few times. It's got an even bigger input lag than my 226bw."

Also, the 226bw was my 4th (and last, for awhile at least) LCD monitor. I mention this because you referred to it as a "1st gen", which it is far from, as the 1st gen LCDs had 30ms+ input delay on them.
Have you ever played on one? As LCDs go, they're really quite nice.

<< Comment #26 @ 19:02 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Something - Reply to #16

sounds like you had a really bad crt man :(

<< Comment #28 @ 19:46 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #26

it was fine for years @120hz

<< Comment #12 @ 15:54 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Terifire

none

<< Comment #13 @ 16:02 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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tbone

small yellow cross that turns red on impact. Keep it red.

<< Comment #22 @ 17:26 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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0x5f3759df

small white/greyish + m8

<< Comment #23 @ 17:45 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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CLains

cg_truelightning 1 without crosshair is the pro way

<< Comment #24 @ 17:51 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Raist

the one that makes you lg %40.

<< Comment #29 @ 21:28 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Anonymous (86.19.129.38)

cg_drawcrosshair 2
cg_crosshairsize 18

~40mg/lg

<< Comment #30 @ 02:44 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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kalston

I use a small red dot (size 32) for all weapons.

I'm crap though (I can hit 30% LG in pubs but that's nothing)

<< Comment #31 @ 03:32 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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smuf

The typical mistake people make is to compare themselves to better people and try to find easy solutions.
"I'm worse than X => Has X a better config, better mouse, better ..?"

Thing is, the solution isn't that easy. X is just better than you are (and it many cases you are worse when you adapt his config &ct). Also it's not all about aim -- some change configs every day because they don't realize it's hard to shaft down a highly stacked enemy while having no armor; some use shaft only because they think it's pro and get destroyed by rockets.

Get a config that you feel comfortable with, learn that there is no magic involved, and practice. In the long run, you will do better with YOUR hardware+config than if you switch between setups all the time.

Just my 5 Euros, but a crosshair has possibly the least impact on how you perform.

<< Comment #33 @ 05:39 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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Anonymous (95.27.181.211) - Reply to #31

Hi
While I agree with your opinion I think in this particular matter picking a right crosshair for LG can save one some time learning how to lg better. IMO the correct crosshair is important for lg
because the most common mistake ppl make when lging is moving the mouse too much so if you have small cursor and keel enemy model it is less optimal than large crosshair on keel or small cursor on tankjr
(cross is staying on the target more even if you move the mouse too much).

<< Comment #38 @ 08:11 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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smuf - Reply to #33

Again all placebo and personal preference if you ask me. All comes down to whether or not you can aim in the first place.

Generally I would agree, using ch 2 size 35 which isn't exactly small but there are people hitting awesome shaft with ch 7, cross in circle, like stermy, strenx, issue, and others hitting great with a dot, like Juven1le. Think that proves my point. All a matter of personal taste.

<< Comment #34 @ 06:34 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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therm '

toxjq uses q4 bicolor circle (number 13 afaik) size 36

but u have to use what u re comfortable with

there is no single best

+ i personally think that using dif crosshairs for each weapons is dumb (sry cooller)

<< Comment #35 @ 06:54 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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Memento_Mori ' - Reply to #34

With draw gun 0 it prevents you to fire with the wrong weapon. Not that that happens too often, but one less thing to take care.

<< Comment #36 @ 07:08 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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therm ' - Reply to #35

not rly...

<< Comment #37 @ 08:06 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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smuf - Reply to #34

While in q3 there was no such crosshair and tox dominated using 2, 6 or 7 as his crosshair for LG (afaik and honestly I don't care).

Tox could pwn nearly everyone here if we hacked his QL and forced him to use crosshair 23 (purple rubber duck, size 40).

So dynamix, my advice again: Learn how to aim and you don't care anymore what ch you have as long as you feel comfi

<< Comment #39 @ 08:22 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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therm ' - Reply to #37

this

<< Comment #41 @ 09:15 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #37

Excuse me but rubber ducks are exclusively yellow.

<< Comment #42 @ 09:43 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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smuf - Reply to #41

No.

http://static.promopeddler.com/prodpics/bigpr...392794.jpg

Now stfu and get used to EITHER ONE of your mice, crea :P

<< Comment #43 @ 11:27 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #42

Clearly shooped! Well at least I didn't buy a new mouse for half a year so I'm making progress. :p

<< Comment #40 @ 09:01 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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tourist

you people are so stupid it hurts. ok it doesn't hurt but you're still stupid as fuck.

<< Comment #44 @ 11:57 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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Lave - Reply to #40

so you think stupidity does not hurt but its stupid to fuck?
i think i disagree

<< Comment #45 @ 13:00 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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ischju

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_ta4lvjYj4&feature=related <- this but with different gfx and impactsparks off.

- lgimpact on though
- set shaft "weapon 6; cg_drawgun 2; cg_crosshairsize 33; cg_drawcrosshair 7; cg_gunZ -8; cg_gunY 2.75; cg_gunX -10"

Edited by ischju at 13:06 CST, 22 February 2011

<< Comment #47 @ 13:47 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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ffx - Reply to #45

Nice clean gfx settings. Could u upload your cfg?

<< Comment #50 @ 14:31 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #47

I had to alter the gfx a bit due to the recent gfx changes (some maps were too dark with my settings etc.) Now it works fine on every map; find screenshot and cfg and hud attached.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2397139/qlhud.rar

Edited by ischju at 14:31 CST, 22 February 2011

<< Comment #54 @ 14:43 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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burgonya - Reply to #50

how do you get the warmup notification to be like this :o

<< Comment #56 @ 14:52 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #54

ask draven or look here:

//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// Map name in warmup
//------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
menuDef {
name "mapname"
fullScreen MENU_FALSE
visible MENU_TRUE
rect 10 20 120 40
ownerdrawflag CG_SHOW_IF_WARMUP

itemDef {
name "mapname"
rect 0 0 50 12
textscale .26
visible 1
style 0
decoration
forecolor 1 1 0.4 1
ownerdraw CG_MAP_NAME
}
}

I think that is the part.

btw my hud is parlty my settings, partly from linkje, draven, hazard etc. I'm not the biggest menu nerd there is.

<< Comment #48 @ 14:19 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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smari - Reply to #45

how do i get such a shaft?

<< Comment #49 @ 14:27 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #48

I posted the shaft settings in my post, mate. You just have to change the values in your config. If you do not know how to do it, come back to me, or ask others.

<< Comment #53 @ 14:42 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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smari - Reply to #49

But your settings only change the position of the gun and the crosshair right?
I want the same shaft beam as you have.
Mine looks like style 2 in this pic:
http://www.derquaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2...ng_gun.jpg

I tried different cg_altlightning values but it didn't change nothing.

<< Comment #57 @ 14:53 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #53

Have you tried cg_lightningStyle 5 ?

<< Comment #58 @ 15:35 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #53

no, he uses drawgun 2 and hides the weapon with the gunxyz settings to get a thinner shaft (with style 5). makes for the best lg gfx in ql by far :)

<< Comment #51 @ 14:40 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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burgonya - Reply to #48

cg_lightningstyle 5; cg_drawgun 2; then play around (or google) with gun position so it's in center and out of the screen

<< Comment #55 @ 14:43 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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smari - Reply to #51

That's what I was looking for. Thx

<< Comment #52 @ 14:40 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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koekie - Reply to #45

Looks like the crosshair isn't helping.
You're missing the enemy in both screenshots!

<< Comment #46 @ 13:15 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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h8m3

using red #3 size 51 @ 800x600 myself for all weapons
1) like when theres empty space in the middle for rail and generally my aim seems to be better when the enemy is inside my xhair, not xhair inside the model
2) size was chosen by taking .tga screenshots with different xhairsizes and looking for the one where the xhair is not interpolated(the black border is exactly 1 pixel wide and not transparent)
and my lg is fairly decent

Edited by h8m3 at 13:16 CST, 22 February 2011

<< Comment #59 @ 16:24 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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Heartlesss

here are the best possible crosshairs for LG :

2, size 32 or 40, cyan

3, size 40, cyan

5, size 80, cyan

9, size 40, cyan

11, size 24 32 or 40, cyan

13, size 24, cyan

14, size 32 or 40, cyan

Edited by He4rTL3sS at 16:26 CST, 22 February 2011

<< Comment #60 @ 17:31 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #59

crosshair hit color = white

the rest is useless.

<< Comment #61 @ 17:45 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #59

cypher, strenx and stermy will disagree :p

<< Comment #62 @ 18:19 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #61

crosshair 7 is overrated.

<< Comment #64 @ 18:28 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #62

it's awesome for rail/sg.

<< Comment #65 @ 18:40 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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function9 - Reply to #64

For SG maybe. I don't care for 2 or 7 because I don't use xhair names (bothers me seeing it pop up). So for long range rails where someone might just be peeking anything other than a tiny 2 or 7 will block the view. And I'd rather just use one xhair instead of multiple ones. 3 is nice, I wish they'd bring back the old q3 xhairs, I liked that open + better.

Edited by function9 at 20:17 CST, 22 February 2011

<< Comment #68 @ 05:11 CST, 23 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #65

'block the view'?

i think that's a myth because of two things... first, real 'long range shots' should be done while zooming in. second, most of my rails are still flickshots, meaning i do see the target close to my crosshair and 'flick' towards it.

both scenarios more or less eliminate what you describe.

<< Comment #63 @ 18:20 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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crea* '

this one: +

<< Comment #66 @ 19:59 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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mastab

circle cross ofc

<< Comment #67 @ 20:17 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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Venim

seems fine to me with a small dot. this is pretty much pure preference.

<< Comment #69 @ 14:02 CST, 24 February 2011 >>

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Anonymous (90.35.35.99)

crosshairhitstyle 0

<< Comment #70 @ 03:53 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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ischju

I am back to a cross. Feels better at the minute on long range, but in close range, I wish it would be a bit bigger and have a circle :D

<< Comment #71 @ 08:40 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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jamalz

There are essentially two ways to lg when you are really good at lgining.

Dodge method, where you try to force both your opponent to miss and yourself to not get hit at all. This brings both lg percentages down and you win because you know what you are going to do first. (unless that person can actually track you, but usually not)

See rapha vs strenx lg fights on toxicity and k1llsen/cooller dancing vs other scrubs.

The other is aim based, tracking with mouse and barely dodging (but not strafe aiming), so even if the enemy hits 35ish lg on you, you just did 50%, so he will die very quickly no matter what.

See Strenx vs randoms / tox vs scrubs / etc

I've found that if I want to dodge lg, I need to use + crosshair.

If I am using aim lg, mostly - I need to use (+) If I try to use this lg with dodging, I will always mess up because I subconsciously use the outer edges of the (+) to re-align my aim, and it takes too long because it is too big.

So depending on how you lg, the different crosshairs will suit your needs.

(pretty sure a giant block [ ] filled with 1 color will be really easy to lg on with both styles, but I don't like creating my own crosshairs)

<< Comment #72 @ 09:01 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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ybl

the outer ring is total distracting for the lg. stermy uses the "o" for the lg (and the (+) for the rg), and this is what we are supposed to do too

/thread

Edited by ybl at 09:01 CST, 12 January 2013

<< Comment #73 @ 09:06 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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Retribution - Reply to #72

Although I share this belief, I watched Stermy use #7 the last time he streamed. I suppose above all it's preference.

<< Comment #74 @ 10:11 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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Ffleri

stermy's drawcrosshair 13 + hitstyle 1 is perfect

Edited by Ffleri at 10:11 CST, 12 January 2013

<< Comment #75 @ 11:36 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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kevz

whenever i lose focus with LG (i use the + btw) i sometimes turn off hitbeeps, its so calming, like shafting a teammate in the warmup. tis all in between the ears but whatever floats everyones boat right?

<< Comment #76 @ 11:49 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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T1E '

almost off topic:
please add user side hit sounds for shafting/mg'ing, I depend so much on the sounds during shaft fights that just a slightly different ping makes it feel off, proof that this might work clientside: cg_impactsparks, those work clientside as well iirc

<< Comment #77 @ 12:30 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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palatka - Reply to #76

hi weird!

<< Comment #78 @ 14:14 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #77

ca players who have music instead of game sounds need not to apply in this topic!

<< Comment #79 @ 14:42 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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palatka - Reply to #78

hey man im ranked 504 world in duel!!

<< Comment #80 @ 14:43 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #79

while playing no-rail duels on t7...

<< Comment #81 @ 14:54 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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palatka - Reply to #80

STILL 504 WORLD

<< Comment #82 @ 17:56 CST, 12 January 2013 >>

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vanBasten

Actually u can make ur own Crosshair.

Attached Image: 92598-shot0039.jpg (153KB)

Edited by vanBasten at 17:57 CST, 12 January 2013

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