YESSSSSSSSS

FUCK YEA

First day with wSw after long time and I get 0.6 :):):)

<3 warsow

downloading NOW!

pretty awesome DUEL... QW / cpma ! :) og

what do you mean ? =)

ETR = lazy programmer

Oh man, you should jump the boat of game modding first, before making such statements...

Cudos to Warsow team!!!

yo i think it's spelt "lazery"

Awesome

sweet :) motivated to host some quick cups after new years

Is the ammo system still the same as back in the days? Cus that sucked :D

And all 12 warsow players have rejoiced!!

What do people play nowadays?

Bomb is quite popular, duel and CA are played the most imo.

no tdm/ctf whatsoever.

oh, and insta.

i think he meant what other games

i think he meant: reply someone to me im so lonely :'( :D

nice self-analysis

next time put (c)

HIHIHIHIHI FRAGER FUNY MEN HE MADE ANONYMOUS SELFPWN IHIHIHIHIH :D:D:D:D:

hihihi u puit c (c0 too u tard :EEE

pidar blyad)))

solitare

militia

Angry birds

lol it's funny 'cause it's true

Angry birds seasons (Christmas and Halloween levels) has > 50,000 ranked players, and I am sure there are plenty of unranked ones too.... So yep, it is true - but deservedly because it is a fun game ;)

Having finished this:
http://gigaom.com/apple/ragdoll-blaster-for-iphone/

Angry Birds seems like the most boring physics game :(

Can't say I've seen that one - will have to take a look.

However, I'll always think of "In the hall of the mountain king" as being the "manic miner" music, no matter how good this is.

That's funny, I'll always think of In the Hall of the Mountain King as one of the themes of Super Solvers Midnight Rescue.

my ati driver stops working when i try to join a server

have to ctrl+alt+delete

worked once, closed warsow, opened warsow, broken

xfx hd4870x2

massive thumbnails!

Where can I find a more complete changelog? :-/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

www.goatsemarathon.com/

y ruin

pretend that didnt happen
http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

God damnit, Fred.

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/

http://www.warsow.net/changelog/ felt left out

Changelog is on the site, check the news post.

Also North American players join #warsow.na on quakenet :D

everyone join #warsow.na @ quakenet. it's a party 24/7/365.25!!

He's not even kidding the channel is active all day erry day.

Sometimes, I pop in!

But say 1 thing and leave.

Unless I'm lanning with Lo, then I'll sit there and talk shit to everyone while no one at all responds to me!

I can't change the color of the strong crosshair

also couldn't hide the regular crosshair when using strong ammo. For example If I choose a circle for the strong crosshair it will still show the weak ammo crosshair (in this case an open "+"). It shows both at the same time.

What I want is to have the same crosshair but with different colors

I guess you'll have to script that with weapon aliases.

minus 1 out of 10 just for that. If you add that weak ammo ch stays when using strong ammo thats -2.

also the brightness of crosshair's colors varies according video configurations such as vertex and gamma. With a simple config (vertex, picmip and all that) the crosshair is almost invisible. -1.

did I mention how in the default settings there's no crosshair difference between weak and strong ammo? not colors, not shape, etc.

-4 overall and haven't left crosshairs lol

Yeah I just d/l'd it again and was setting it up (I tried 0.5 for a couple days then lost interest for some reason).

Having trouble with the crosshairs as well. I'm coming from quake live and I just wanted something ala crosshair 3 with color yellow.

It wasn't immediately obvious how to do that in warsow though. It has a crosshair 3, but it's like transparent. Difficult to see.

It also wasn't immediately obvious how to force models + bright skin.

Granted I didn't spend much time on it.

those attached thumbnails are kinda useless, arent they?

Totally! I uploaded some 150px pics and set them to be thumbnails, naively expecting for them to appear as thumbnails in the post. However, obviously - after being approved by an admin - they appear as links at the bottom of the post.

I am as of yet still working on my MSc degree in computer science, and hence not yet at the level to fully grasp the concept of posting pictures on ESR (after x years of doing so).

What I do know, is that I will not bother an admin anymore with pictures he or she has to approve for me. Nor will I study the distinction between inline images, post images, thumbnails and images. I let it be.

To the head chief of ESR picture operations: BB code would be great.

butthurt much? just ask someone for help then if you cba to check how the image system works... afterall its your news about your new release and i guess you dont want it to look bad

not saying that the admin who approved your stuff and majored the fucked up post did a good job ;)

Well, he uploaded them that way, and stopped there. If he didn't want them to be like attached images, he should have spent one iota of time to delete them, if they were useless. If he gave a flying fuck about his announcement, he should have spent another iota of time to look up the meaning of the words "place" and "inline", since he was so retarded as not to know their meaning to begin with. You're right, admin should have deleted a shitty post made with no effort. After all, if the original poster doesn't give a shit, why should you?

exactly, thats how i feel about it aswell ;)

still the admin should either fix it or not major it

blame PerpetualWar :)

didnt wanna use names ;)

-_- I didn`t major it I think I just published. But I was drunk so anything is possible.

Oh, and I will delete all future posts by ETR, no worries xD

:DDD

To the head chief of WSW picture submition operations: BB code is already implemented.
You're free to use the [img] tag with your self-hosted images to your hearts content. Yet, it doesn't take an unfinished MSc in CS to realize BB code has nothing to do with uploading pictures. More over, it takes a certified blind retard to miss the meaning of each type of file you are uploading, as the description text appears directly underneath the select box.
Can you please name the school at which you were accepted for your MS program? I'd like to add it to my 'do not hire' list.

phoenix university

Damn, what a nice suprise to my day. Download now, will pass the word on to the Warsow players I know.

Installed and it crashed on startup. GJ! sigh

i totally forgot about this game.

think ill give it a try again

wsw <3

no

World cup please!

Lo (USA), reload (Germany/Poland), heartless(France), BRUNS (Great Britain), Sady (omnomnom), and more...

\o/ @ BRUNS

YEAAAAAH

heartless (U.S.A. FUCK YEAH BABY)
Sady (France)

WTF, I thought you were French?

Not anymore.

All the good things are in America.

I was ashamed of being French. I want to forget.

cunt

You say that only cuz you are french.

well. yes. and?

You should become American like me. Or else pls stop talking with me, i'm not like you, ok ?

dude, srly, i hope ur trolling. otherwise, get a life

So you don't want to be American or what ? What's wrong with them ?

racist

FAIL! *us*

whats the point being american? we all live on the same planet you douche, and unless you come from a shitty war-going-country you should'nt EVER change your nationality.

Just be proud of where you come from. AND that DOSENT mean you shouldn't be living where the heck you want.
Don't be ridiculous with the nationality shit please.

stop talking french pls it's an international website.

damn those frenchies. So arrogant and they think that everyone speaks french. lol

"Just be proud of where you come from. "
"Don't be ridiculous with the nationality shit please. "

priceless.

His foot, pizz just shot it.

where u come from has nothing to do with the nationality.

ie. I just come from the toilet, had a huge dump.

I hope you're proud about yourself.

yea i used to be proud of my dumps.. when i was 5.

well that's where you came from, why not be proud?

prouding

wat?

"I was ashamed of being French. I want to forget." :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

What about: Mineral water; stylish chicks with little boobs; fantomas movies; delicious frogs; wine and whine; sick shaft geeks; cabaret... ???

mineral water : perhaps

stylish chicks with little boobs : perhaps

fantomas movies : lol

delicious frogs : no (c) Vedic

wine and whine : 150% true

sick shaft geeks : 100% true

cabaret : dunno i'm a nerd like Agent

One correction, agent is not nerd he is dumbass.

Bruns represents Finnuk (spelled with 2 n's)

Nice. haven't played warsow in years but I'll try it once again

how did h1o contribute to this?
also i bet every other person in the unknown chan knew about this. outsider.

Would be cool to play this game if it didn't have a trojan in it.

It doesn't.

O'rly?

It doesn't. I don't know which antivirus you are using, but if it reports a trojan it's a false positive.

Probably Norton, I specced some " let a guy from india remote control my comp to add it to the exception list " action yesterday.

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en

HELL YESS

wow woot this looks nice :D

Cripple Effect and bad ammo system, nothing to see here.

Move along.

used to be a fun game :)

not that the game gotten worse, it's just that I don't have the motivation to play anything. :/

\o/ christmas came early

Wow, this is beautiful. I love the new maps, and the way the design is getting more and more consistent. Good job :)

For a cel shaded game the performance is absolutely horrendous.

I can't get 60 fps on a good computer

What was good 10 years ago might not be good today :(

It's smoother than any quake client I ever used (except for ezquake)

Way smoother and more constant FPS than Quake Live for me with great looking visuals.

Perhaps what you call a 'good computer' is not so good. Or you have some kind of vsync on.

On my 8800 gt I can run everything in warsow at 300+ fps (most of the time 5-600). I capped it at ~155 though because that's what my crt was set to.

trun off the bloom

I don't have a good computer but I can run QL on 1024x769 no problem. However, Warsow on the same resolution (minimum details) is a slideshow even while running on an empty map:(

Tried applying low gfx profile in graphics setup?

try changing gl_extensions too! that improved my framerate by 50-60fps.

Everytime I try to install it tells me that an error occured when the installer tried to rename a file called anglewrap_x86.dll. :(

have you tried redownloading it?
the download page gives you a random mirror every time so maybe you got a corrupt file

No I will try that :).

Someone knows where i could find the weapons def ? :PPP

In the sdk. Under source/gameshared/weapondefs.c

Thks.

.torrent for this?

What is the name of the weapon that comes after the electrobolt. It's like the railgun but can't bind a key to it because I don't know the name : /

check the list here, to find the weapon/item you want to bind: http://www.warsow.net/wiki/index.php?title=Items

Noo

If you load up Warsow 0.6 and do devmap wdm1 then give all you have a weapon after the electrobolt, a 9th weapon. I have to use weapon next to select it (defaults to mwheelup, normally I'd unbind these but still testing out the game).

I was curious what it was called because I can do say bind r "use lasergun" but I cannot bind this weapon because I do not have a name for it.

If it's purple, it's probably the insta gun, for... instagib.

Fuckin creepy, just started to think "hey I wonder when the new warsow version is out" like 2 seconds before I loaded esreality. :|

Anyway downloading, awesome stuff.

sweet! although I knew for some time that it would be out around now ;)

anyways, hoping to get a computer that's worth playing any games on pretty soon. So I'll rejoin for some more BOMB madness!

nice game

Aaron > Warsow

Aaron > ur kids

true.

I haven't been interested in this game since they started ruining it post .31.......

I think 0.32 was the last good version of warsow, or was it 0.2?

I don't know how they made the game way worse than what it used to be instead of becoming pmx

have to say that overall i preferred the core gameplay from .32 the most as well; although the game has come on leaps and bounds in some ways it's barely changed/arguably gone backwards in others :(.

agreed

I didn't understand the movement system the last time I loaded the game up. The way I heard it, the strafe/bunnyhopping tutorials are all bullshit because with newmovement on you just press forward and do jumps... but I have tried that with newmovement set to both 1 and 2 and it seems really slow and much worse.

Those tutorials are for newbs, so they can give a quick first step into movement. You can move just as in quake directly, and if newmovement bothers you set cg_oldmovement to 1

can you tell me what happened to wdm2 "le dream on"?
it was a pretty good/memorable map

It was retextured, but the map is still there without any gameplay change.

It seems slower than I remember it, but very limited experience with it. You definitely have to take a wide 'swath' when going back and forth, and I usually don't hold forward after the first jump or two.

Played since 0.3 i have loved every verison since then! 0.6 made me go like :00000! Its AWSOME!

<3 new update
its just awesome

Looks supernice. The graphics have improved immensely since I first started playing it. The people that used to look at it and go "ewww" would now see it as a "quake" style gameplay over "team fortress 2" style graphics.
My only complaint, so far, is the 'stun' thingy, which I hear is to cut down on walljump abuse, although how that is abused I'm not fully certain yet. I guess for using it mid-fight? *shrug

Anyway, overall I love it and it will become a LAN party regular, just like it has for years now with my gaming buddies

lan parties. I wiss they were possible for ql as well.

hint for your next lan party: You can disable stun at the gametype config (basewsw/configs/server/gametypes)

thanks! Do you know if any online servers have this disabled? or is it pretty much standard nowadays?

standard

ca has it disabled by default because its air-combat nature. Standard anywhere else.

Walljump abuse was used in every close range and mid range fight, especially with the rocket launcher. It made fights pretty random, so that's the reason why stun has been added.

didnt follow the wsw development, what exactly is this "stun thingy"

"cripple" in quake terms afaik?

when you take damage become "stunned" and cannot perform a walljump (dash is still possible) for a while (depending on amount of damage taken iirc?)
it was pretty bad in .42 where it was totally impossible to hit projectiles on airborn targets near a wall with all the erratic walljumping so perhaps that was an even bigger motivation to have gotten it into .5

As others said. Now imagine an enemy flies against a wall, bounced back by a rocket of you, and to prevent him to walljump off the wall, hit him with a shot so that he gets stunned and thus forced to fall down.

These people summed it up pretty well. The main point was that, at rocket fights it was very usual to just hit the walljump key all the time when getting pushed up, which gave you a random walljump dodge, putting the advantage at the guy receiving the push instead of being at the one who hitted the good rocket, and generally making rocket fights random.

thanks for the replies, sounds very reasonable to me ;)

YAY for the warsow community. My post asking for torrent is asolutely /ignored, while smaler issues than not being able to properly download the file are promptly answered. Way to go /o\

My desire to try this new version vanishes quickly than the >.2 craze :/

www.warsow.net/download
There's torrent there...

Hahah it wasnt this morning, and u use "..." like saying it always was there kid. hahaha cmon cmon :pp Glad its there now tho. Thanks and keep up the best community dm game ever.

It was there since yesterdayevening sir. And you're welcome. Glad I have been able to resurrect your desire to try this new version ;).

i wonder how long people will play it this time? i give it month :( unless your really hardecore

[00:48] <@vicek> YOUR REALLY HARDECORE MARRK
also, negative nancy

how to make the gfx not look like anime?

Go play Quake Live.... Warsow is a cell-shaded cyber-punk game, you can't make it look like dark gothic bloodfest.

a cyber punk game 'ey!

I think he is trolling :)

how to make Vium not so NERD?

first

how can i turn off smoke and screendamage? + how to set refresh rate?

cg_rocketTrail
cg_explosionsDust
cg_damage_indicator
vid_displayfrequency

EDIT: Or maybe you mean this other smoke: http://www.warsow.net/wiki/index.php?title=CG...ts_.227.22

nice, thank you

btw. i see jal's config in my wsw directory, its urs? :D

yup, it's mine. Don't exec it, I use weird keys ;)

yeah i see :D

Some more thoughts:

Game looks absolutely gorgeous.

I'm not a fan of the available huds but I know I can change that if I am motivated to (I prefer a more minimalist approach).

I have an easier time with the oldmovement code.

The deal breaker for me though is the lack of players. In the server browser there is one american server listed. The rest are all in europe where I am 200+ ms.

The one american server I am 80 ms on =/

there are a few tastyspleen servers that are usually active for CA and Duel, and the occasional DM.

I use Qtracker though, not the in-game browser, so I dunno if I get a different list than you do.

gotta love wsw insta! <3

Looks awesome. I want to try this game. My PC is too old for QL, and I tied of 80-100fps games ;) Where I can get a decent cfg?

Try this one
http://www.warsow.net/forum/help-troubleshoot...fx-config/

or choose one of these (0.5 configs seem to work fine on 0.6, keep in mind most of them have all the personal preferences in them so you have the binds and such)
http://www.gamingcfg.com/game/warsow

goodluck ;)

Tried a few games now, game hasn't changed that much... Maps look cooler (when you not use picmip16), weapons feel different once again but the worst thing is that the scene remains the same :|. A few guys doing _everything_, building/testing the game, helping people on forums, hosting cups and then you have "the rest" who just whine about every single thing & need to ask other people for every little command they need to put in console because they are too lazy to check wsw forums or just to google it. *sigh*

Welcome to the dumbified fluoride/vaccines/gmo/etc world my friend. In my opinion in this case the dedication of the team in spite of the fact the community size has been mostly stagnated is very nice. In my case the game breaker was the inane amounts of changes form version to version, i enjoyed .1 through .2 But just another opinion nothing more nothing less.

This version has another level of integration tho, of the different aspects that makes the ultimate purpose of a video game imnsho, the suspension of desbelief. Tip after 10 mins of pubing alone: the rocket smoke should be off by default, its way cheap at this point and sustracts from the game atmosphere.

I could also came here whining that i cant find players, well if you think the games has what it takes and as you read and post here so you have a good level of understanding of the dm scene i think you should be exactly in the other side. PMing IMing MSNing EMAILing WTFing the people you know has potential to play it. Post on your local forum. Spread the word. How can we know how good it is if we dont even give it the chance? This version definitely deserves the "hassle".

only thing i ever whined about was players bashing walljump 24/7

but now i can't even join a server because it crashes my ati graphics

english, international site, use imsg for other languages, nuking is fun, etc.

ok just tried it, having huge mouse lags/freezes. any1 know a fix for that?

in_mouse 1 in_dinput 0 m_raw 1 in_restart. Should enable raw input.

Try also sys_affinity <as many ones as cores you have>. That bitch creates random troubles sometimes. The default setting seems to cause the less troubles, but sometimes it's just the opposite.. If it works once you have to put it in the autoexec, the setting is not remembered. If it doesn't help just forget it, no need to remove it.

Warsow really needs more love, so fastpaced and fun game that i cant really believe its so unpopular.. :(

Off the top of my head I'd say it has 2 massive flaws that only regular players ( or people who have nearly played another quake past their 13th birthday ) can cope with : delayed stuff on your client even though you ping 30 causing you to get warped around everytime a rocket hits you and hacky as fuck projectiles that get spawned out of the weapon at some distance supposed to compensate for your ping.

In other words, problem 1 makes playing at 100ping more logical than 30 and problem 2 just kills you with
projectiles that spawned behind you vs a 50pinger / completely screws your feel for ping.

Warsow has straight up the best net codeing out of any fast fps.
QL,QW,OSP,even CPMA.

wish ql could have the same net codeing.

Could very well be the best one in theory, in practice it's completely unreliable, even compared to ql which is pretty horrid.

you don't know wtf you're talking about.

You're just used to see rockets spawn at some distance based on the player's ping.

Must admit that this release feels incredible on high ping though. If only this range stuff on projectiles only kicked in above 60-80 or something like that it'd be pretty much perfect.

i rarely play on less than 80 ping. recently i played some games on 180 ping and didn't have much trouble. seems the netcode is at or close to the level it was in .4, which was amazing for high ping and absolutely unrivaled in the deathmatch genre.

also, if you think you're losing games or doing badly because you can't see enemy projectiles as early as you would have in some other game, then you're just using a weak excuse to justify some poor performance on your part, imo. its unlikely those projectiles would have been dodged anyway.

Well that's good then, at 80 I guess projectiles look like they should on your end.

The problem isn't exactly that I can't see them as early as I would in other quake games, the problem is that there's no way to adapt to anything when someone pings 50more ms than you and the game is coded to litterally pop the projectile on the server where it would have been if he didn't ping shit.
Didn't bother to test it again but in 0.5, on wdm2, a guy with 60ms firing from lg/now eb towards gl would get his rockets to pop out of nowhere right in the middle of the distance between both ledges. That's kind of a problem, and it made ( and still makes imo ) playing on us servers with 120ping more logical than playing on 30 with anyone above 50 in europe cause at least you get some consistency between weapons, can blame it on the lag or whatever and try to avoid close-mid range.

tl;dr I'm ok with the fact that I'll see projectiles pop out of nowhere when my ping is shit, and I'll try to play according to that. I'm not ok with being insta popped up middle range cause a guy pings 60 and the server decided he's too retarded to try to predict me and lead his projectiles ( now that I think of it, could also be done so that hugrockets keep being a somewhat viable choice even with a meh ping )

playing with high ping is not an advantage.

not what I said.

I agree with you.

And the fact that the game isn't as much aim based as quakelive makes the ping not as important as in ql.

But the worst was probably vq3 with OSP or RA3. OSP was almost perfect for LAN play, but online, those with 10-20ms pretty much dominated everything. Thks God those days are over now.

Shit ain't over, QL is all ping man.

yeah you're kinda right.

But still quakelive is better than OSP or RA3 on this point.

I mean, from what i remember, in RA3 (which is quite similar to OSP, concerning the netcode... and the gameplay ofc - vq3), when you tried to shaft duel someone with 20-25ms and you had like 40+, it was almost impossible to win, even if you had overall a better shaft. In QL it's definitely possible, as long as he's not cypher or strenx or some disgusting shaft whore :).
Sure you could still set some negative timenudge value @ RA3/OSP to compensate your ping a little, but at the end it didn't help that much tbh, and the low pinger could still use some tiny amount of timenudge aswell (like -5, -10), so...

Almost the same story for rail, as long as your ping don't go over 70, you can still aim directly ON the target, you don't have to make any RL-like predictions.

So basically QL netcode is better for online play (and still good for LAN, maybe not as good as OSP but who cares ? There's not THAT much differences between 0-5 and 10ms anyways, and the most important thing is that the players are playing in FAIR conditions.). Also, id can still set up LAN servers only for very important events (it already has been done in the past).
Not to mention the fact that the hitboxes are smaller (and let's say more consistent) then the vq3 hitboxes. and the rail does 80dmg (yeah!), LG does less tbh etc etc... Far less frustrating than vq3.
And tbh i really like the current QL weapons balance.

However QL netcode is far from perfect, especially when, sometimes, you basically shoot through the model :/, happens with rail when you're playing with med-high ping. The antilag is probably a bit bugged/random at times.
Anyways, CPMA/wsw netcodes ftw =). I remember playing wsw @ 150ms, was still very playable. And i remember some "pro" games in 2008 between jibo & strenx where strenx had 100ms+ vs jibo @ 15ms or something, and he still managed win (strenx). Same with cypher/av3k etc, they almost always played with higher/way higher pings than their opponents but still managed to "dominate" (cypher especially).
That was partly because of the very good CPMA netcode for online play.

ra3 was antilagged and the lg was brought down to 7dmg years ago.

yep but not as much as QL, well, the ra3 antilag wasn't as "strong" as the ql's one.
that's why pretty much everyone used to play with a quite high negative timenudge value.

well, in fact i didn't really know that there was antilag in ra3, but i did know that it felt a bit different thaan osp, so yeah i could've guessed that.

and about the 7dmgs LG, i'm not sure when it was implemented exactly (but i did knowthat LG dmg had been lowered when i started to play less ra3 and focus on other gameplays/games) but there's something i'm sure of, it's that when i started ra3 LG was 8 dmgs. And rail had always been 100 dmgs. That and the huge hitboxes, 'slow' rockets, 100hp 100ap made this mode VERY rail heavy. But yeah after some years the base HP/AP was 200/100 (just like in ql, but with decreasing HP down to 100), which was obviously a pretty good change. Anyways, rail @ 100dmg + huge hitboxes is still kind of fail imho (at least in 2008-2010+), makes the game so camp/hit&run/hitscan heavy. That's one of the main reason why i /quit playing a3 back in the day.

Basically, the antilag revealed that 8dmg lg was too harsh ( even though not as broken as xerp later revealed ) so they toned it down. Still got the same average damage output at the end of the day so nobody gave a fuck back then :D

okok =)

It looks like UT :(

how dare you :(

Its ace game but sadly extrapolate 0 is now broken which makes it unplayable for me atleast. :<

"Prettier! Engine updates for improved and more realistic lighting."

yes because realism was always the selling point of the game.

I'm glad you know what matters in games these days.
Some people just don't appreciate realistic lighting in games.

(v) Go to main powerup!

I was in a NA server and confirmed a serious bug: the game fully stops for about half a second every single time the music track changes, which happens about every 3 minutes (song length).
S_musicvolume does not prevent this and it can't be deactivated by any other method.

in a 10 minute duel you'll rage hard at least 3 times. In a 20 min long ca match you will at least 6 times, etc.

lol, and i ordered a new server thinking it was because of the only server running in NA at the time. And the server I ordered had it too of course... please fix this bug it's extremely annoying

cg_playlist "" seems to work for me.

I have the same problem but it goes away if I turn off the music... Even if I silence it :E. I heard about the problem a lot, no fixes afaik :(

I WANT THE MUSIC BECAUSE THE MUSIC IS MOTHERFUCKING GOOD AFTER SO MUCH TIME :(

Vic is fixing it.

bomb defuse gametype is extremely fun to jump into
so much better than clan arena will ever be

Warsow turned out amazing for a free game. this could easily be sold on Steam for like $5 and get more popular.
i like the easier simplified movement, cuts away some of the useless part of the learning curve. this is the future of deathmatch, if it still has any.